Vic Smith wrote:
On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 17:51:31 -0700, Jim wrote:

H the K wrote:
http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/07102009/watch2.html



I'm going to defy the truce, which I shouldn't do.

Had an interesting discussion yesterday. Out of a group three of us
dock neighbors, two just had Colonoscopys. Both had two polyps removed.

Third guy, a liveaboard who makes his living doing odd jobs, said he
(age 53) could never afford a Colonoscopy, as he had no health insurance
(or an actual job) he has other things to pay for.

I did some looking, a Colonoscopy costs from a low of $650, to about $3200.

I saw what the insurance company was billed on the first one I had
about 5 years ago. Six or seven benign polyps removed.
$4700.
Go figure.

--Vic


When I looked at prices, they ranged from $1500 to $42000. If they find
polyps the charge for the removal of each one. $4700 sounds about right.

I'm kind if suspicious that my neighbor and I each had two. I'll bet
they never find just one.

That is a profit based health care system works.

Does the library make a profit? Fire Dept? Police? Craigslist?

As Craig said, "I'm running a service, not a business." Maybe our
health care system has the wrong focus.

Vic Smith wrote:
On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 19:12:56 -0700, Jim wrote:


They don't knock you out, they erase your memory. Then go out and have
a nice breakfast.

Men in Black drug.
The first time I felt like a horse dying of whatever it is they eat
and makes them die from exploded guts.
Trapped air according to the doc.
Puked - maybe a drug reaction - and then had severe abdominal pain
for about half an hour - went home when it lessened a bit.
Wasn't over for another half-hour - not until my ass started a tuba
tribute.
Second time was a lot better.

--Vic

That sounds more like the Sigmiscope (sp) If you remember it, it was a
Sigmiscope. And you don't forget one of those.

On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 19:33:42 -0700, Jim wrote:



When I looked at prices, they ranged from $1500 to $42000. If they find
polyps the charge for the removal of each one. $4700 sounds about right.

Makes sense.

I'm kind if suspicious that my neighbor and I each had two. I'll bet
they never find just one.

I got pictures. And I actually woke up and was watching the screen
for a while, until the doc noticed and motioned the nurse to dope me
more.
Probably a good idea, because I was starting to feel the snake.
Saw him burning one out. Maybe I was under too long for the initial
dose.

--Vic

Jim wrote:
Vic Smith wrote:
On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 19:12:56 -0700, Jim wrote:


They don't knock you out, they erase your memory. Then go out and
have a nice breakfast.

Men in Black drug.
The first time I felt like a horse dying of whatever it is they eat
and makes them die from exploded guts.
Trapped air according to the doc.
Puked - maybe a drug reaction - and then had severe abdominal pain for
about half an hour - went home when it lessened a bit.
Wasn't over for another half-hour - not until my ass started a tuba
tribute. Second time was a lot better.

--Vic

That sounds more like the Sigmiscope (sp) If you remember it, it was a
Sigmiscope. And you don't forget one of those.


More commonly called the chrome pony.

On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 19:36:29 -0700, Jim wrote:

Vic Smith wrote:
On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 19:12:56 -0700, Jim wrote:


They don't knock you out, they erase your memory. Then go out and have
a nice breakfast.

Men in Black drug.
The first time I felt like a horse dying of whatever it is they eat
and makes them die from exploded guts.
Trapped air according to the doc.
Puked - maybe a drug reaction - and then had severe abdominal pain
for about half an hour - went home when it lessened a bit.
Wasn't over for another half-hour - not until my ass started a tuba
tribute.
Second time was a lot better.

--Vic

That sounds more like the Sigmiscope (sp) If you remember it, it was a
Sigmiscope. And you don't forget one of those.

No, it was the full Monte each time.
My HMO doc told me he won't even do sigs after he did one on a patient
and the guy died a year later from cancer up higher.
Sends patients to the proc guy for the full scoping.
BTW, a mate at work bugged me to get the scoping when I turned 55.
Apparently the HMO doesn't do that as a preventative.
So when I went in for my yearly physical I told the doc I should be
scoped since I had turned 55.
He asked me "Do you get blood in your stools?"
I said "No."
He asked again "Do you get blood in your stools?"
I said "No."
He asked again "Do you get blood in your stools?"
Well, I might be slow, but the third time was a charm.
I said "Yes."

--Vic

On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 22:44:48 -0400, BAR wrote:

Jim wrote:
Vic Smith wrote:
On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 19:12:56 -0700, Jim wrote:


They don't knock you out, they erase your memory. Then go out and
have a nice breakfast.

Men in Black drug.
The first time I felt like a horse dying of whatever it is they eat
and makes them die from exploded guts.
Trapped air according to the doc.
Puked - maybe a drug reaction - and then had severe abdominal pain for
about half an hour - went home when it lessened a bit.
Wasn't over for another half-hour - not until my ass started a tuba
tribute. Second time was a lot better.

--Vic

That sounds more like the Sigmiscope (sp) If you remember it, it was a
Sigmiscope. And you don't forget one of those.


More commonly called the chrome pony.

Damn, I never heard anything like that.
Where the hell do you hang out? (-:

--Vic

On Jul 24, 9:18*pm, H the K wrote:

.. Awful. Worse than flying in a helicopter
with SW Tom.


I'd fly with him and if need be (which I doubt) could probably back
him up, too.

If not, it wouldn't matter anyhow.

?;^ )

Jim wrote:
Vic Smith wrote:
On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 17:51:31 -0700, Jim wrote:

H the K wrote:
http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/07102009/watch2.html



I'm going to defy the truce, which I shouldn't do.

Had an interesting discussion yesterday. Out of a group three of us
dock neighbors, two just had Colonoscopys. Both had two polyps removed.

Third guy, a liveaboard who makes his living doing odd jobs, said he
(age 53) could never afford a Colonoscopy, as he had no health
insurance (or an actual job) he has other things to pay for.

I did some looking, a Colonoscopy costs from a low of $650, to about
$3200.

I saw what the insurance company was billed on the first one I had
about 5 years ago. Six or seven benign polyps removed.
$4700.
Go figure.

--Vic


When I looked at prices, they ranged from $1500 to $42000. If they find
polyps the charge for the removal of each one. $4700 sounds about right.

I'm kind if suspicious that my neighbor and I each had two. I'll bet
they never find just one.

That is a profit based health care system works.

Does the library make a profit? Fire Dept? Police? Craigslist?

As Craig said, "I'm running a service, not a business." Maybe our
health care system has the wrong focus.

I saw bills totaling nearly $10,000 for a recent colonoscopy with polyp
removal/ endoscopy/ lab procedure.

Tim wrote:
On Jul 24, 9:18 pm, H the K wrote:

. Awful. Worse than flying in a helicopter
with SW Tom.


I'd fly with him and if need be (which I doubt) could probably back
him up, too.

If not, it wouldn't matter anyhow.

?;^ )





Nearer your god to be?


I don't like flying in a commercial jet with a calm, experienced
professional pilot in command. Getting in a plane with a hot-tempered,
mood-swinger like SW Tom in command? No thanks. And I wouldn't get in a
'copter unless I was being rescued by the Coast Guard.




--
A wise Latina makes better decisions than a dumb elephant.

BAR wrote:
Jim wrote:
Vic Smith wrote:
On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 19:12:56 -0700, Jim wrote:


They don't knock you out, they erase your memory. Then go out and
have a nice breakfast.

Men in Black drug.
The first time I felt like a horse dying of whatever it is they eat
and makes them die from exploded guts.
Trapped air according to the doc.
Puked - maybe a drug reaction - and then had severe abdominal pain
for about half an hour - went home when it lessened a bit.
Wasn't over for another half-hour - not until my ass started a tuba
tribute. Second time was a lot better.

--Vic

That sounds more like the Sigmiscope (sp) If you remember it, it was
a Sigmiscope. And you don't forget one of those.


More commonly called the chrome pony.



Now *that* is a funny phrase.


--
A wise Latina makes better decisions than a dumb elephant.