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SteveB[_2_] July 21st 09 01:49 AM

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What's the difference between a boat and a ship?


Steve



Calif Bill[_2_] July 21st 09 02:31 AM

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"SteveB" wrote in message
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What's the difference between a boat and a ship?


Steve


To a submarine, always a boat, There are no ships, just targets.



mgg July 21st 09 04:59 AM

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"Calif Bill" wrote in message
m...

"SteveB" wrote in message
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What's the difference between a boat and a ship?


Steve


To a submarine, always a boat, There are no ships, just targets.


LOL!

I think that if one vessel can be carried by another vessel, it's a boat.
The one doing the carrying is a ship. It may not be accurate, but it sounds
good.

Seriously, I'm sure it's a simple matter of size. Over a certain tonnage is
a ship... anything less is a boat. Don't ask me what the tonnage is though.

--Mike



John July 21st 09 05:46 PM

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snipped quote "I think that if one vessel can be carried by another
vessel, it's a boat. The one doing the carrying is a ship."

This is exactly the definition that the chief bosun's mate who was my
company commander in boot camp taught me almost 35 years ago. But
look at the photograph of the Blue Marlin at http://www.sailfinalstraw.com/Dockwise/Dockwise.htm
and you can see that the definition is getting a little uncertain.

I think Chief Padgham was from destroyers (although it was a long time
ago) and the picture notwithstanding, I'm not too sure he would
appreciate a ship he served aboard being called a "boat".

Take care . . .

John

Vic Smith July 21st 09 11:48 PM

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On Tue, 21 Jul 2009 09:46:14 -0700 (PDT), John
wrote:


snipped quote "I think that if one vessel can be carried by another
vessel, it's a boat. The one doing the carrying is a ship."

This is exactly the definition that the chief bosun's mate who was my
company commander in boot camp taught me almost 35 years ago. But
look at the photograph of the Blue Marlin at http://www.sailfinalstraw.com/Dockwise/Dockwise.htm
and you can see that the definition is getting a little uncertain.

I think Chief Padgham was from destroyers (although it was a long time
ago) and the picture notwithstanding, I'm not too sure he would
appreciate a ship he served aboard being called a "boat".

Take care . . .

John


Got me thinking a little about this. Can't go by horsepower, because
some tugs have a huge amount.
How about a ship being a large vessel capable of crossing oceans
carrying passengers or cargo safely and profitably.
And maybe throw in "built for that purpose."
That's how I think when I look at a boat/ship and name it in my head.
Usually I think of the owner as a "shipping company."
Definitions can change. Anybody looking at the Nina, Pint and Santa
Maria nowadays might call them boats.

--Vic

Richard Casady July 22nd 09 03:12 PM

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On Mon, 20 Jul 2009 18:49:18 -0600, "SteveB"
wrote:

What's the difference between a boat and a ship?


If you can pick it up with the cranes on a small freighter and carry
it as deck cargo, it is definitely a boat. If it is intended to be a
tender for a ship or large boat, and is launched and retrieved with
the usual davits or crane, it is a boat. Seventy five feet and fifty
tons is easily handled by most any crane equipped freighter. It is
possible to carry a battleship around, slowly, with a floating
drydock, but that doesn't make it a boat.

Casady

John July 22nd 09 05:45 PM

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On Jul 21, 1:01*pm, wrote:
On Mon, 20 Jul 2009 20:59:18 -0700, "mgg" wrote:
I think that if one vessel can be carried by another vessel, it's a boat..
The one doing the carrying is a ship. It may not be accurate, but it sounds
good.


Even that concise description can be ambiguous

http://www.navsource.org/archives/05/05016752.jpg


LOL sounds like we are in thuderously load agreement.

otnmbrd July 23rd 09 02:07 AM

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"You can carry a boat on a ship but you can't carry a ship on a boat"
Now...... The "nitpicking assholes" can come up with all sorts of
exceptions to the Rule in a vain attempt to show their superior
intellect/whatever, but total lack of common sense.
The description is "general" and allows for a good deal of personal
experience/opinion......if You think it's a boat.....call it
that.......if YOU think it's a ship.....call it that......if the other
guy doesn't like your designation.....tough ****.







Richard Casady wrote in
:

On Mon, 20 Jul 2009 18:49:18 -0600, "SteveB"
wrote:

What's the difference between a boat and a ship?


If you can pick it up with the cranes on a small freighter and carry
it as deck cargo, it is definitely a boat. If it is intended to be a
tender for a ship or large boat, and is launched and retrieved with
the usual davits or crane, it is a boat. Seventy five feet and fifty
tons is easily handled by most any crane equipped freighter. It is
possible to carry a battleship around, slowly, with a floating
drydock, but that doesn't make it a boat.

Casady




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