Nearing completion
 

My slide-in truck camper based on a design from Glen-L is nearing
completion. This project has taken far longer than expected and has
not been as much fun as I expected. For awhile I was trying to build
the framing to boat building standards until I realized this was a
waste of epoxy. The Glen-L design is from the late 70s and you have
to do some re-thinking for newer materials but seems to work.
The metal siding was more expensive than I expected. I used actual RV
siding from an RV siding company and cutting it was a serious PITA
resulting in some wicked looking edges. Fortunately, trim has covered
my most serious flaws. Unfortunately, there are a few places where my
saber saw slipped and the blade punctured the skin where trim does not
cover it but I will try to seal these with epoxy and touch-up paint.
The windows will be installed this weekend and then the outside will
be finished. Then the fun starts because my wife insists on doing the
interior her way. This will mean endlessly looking at samples of
fabric and linoleum till I am ready to pick something at random.
Originally, I thought the camper would be ready for our annual
pilgrimage to Wyoming because the bears mountain lions and now wolves
have become a problem for campers. There was a story yesterday about
a family camping near Cody being attacked by a mountain lion.

Nearing completion
 

On Jul 17, 11:49*am, Frogwatch wrote:
My slide-in truck camper based on a design from Glen-L is nearing
completion. *This project has taken far longer than expected and has
not been as much fun as I expected. *For awhile I was trying to build
the framing to boat building standards until I realized this was a
waste of epoxy. *The Glen-L design is from the late 70s and you have
to do some re-thinking for newer materials but seems to work.
The metal siding was more expensive than I expected. *I used actual RV
siding from an RV siding company and cutting it was a serious PITA
resulting in some wicked looking edges. *Fortunately, trim has covered
my most serious flaws. *Unfortunately, there are a few places where my
saber saw slipped and the blade punctured the skin where trim does not
cover it but I will try to seal these with epoxy and touch-up paint.
The windows will be installed this weekend and then the outside will
be finished. *Then the fun starts because my wife insists on doing the
interior her way. *This will mean endlessly looking at samples of
fabric and linoleum till I am ready to pick something at random.
Originally, I thought the camper would be ready for our annual
pilgrimage to Wyoming because the bears mountain lions and now wolves
have become a problem for campers. *There was a story yesterday about
a family camping near Cody being attacked by a mountain lion.

Many years ago (Early 80s) we were camped near Hole-In-the -Wall
(Butch Cassiday's hideout) in the middle of nowhere (southern end of
the Bighorn Mountains) and could hear a mountain lion at night. My
wife and I (childless then) slept in our friends hard sided slide in
camper. In the morning, we found mountain lion tracks all over in the
snow around our camp.

Nearing completion
 

Frogwatch wrote:
On Jul 17, 11:49 am, Frogwatch wrote:
My slide-in truck camper based on a design from Glen-L is nearing
completion. This project has taken far longer than expected and has
not been as much fun as I expected. For awhile I was trying to build
the framing to boat building standards until I realized this was a
waste of epoxy. The Glen-L design is from the late 70s and you have
to do some re-thinking for newer materials but seems to work.
The metal siding was more expensive than I expected. I used actual RV
siding from an RV siding company and cutting it was a serious PITA
resulting in some wicked looking edges. Fortunately, trim has covered
my most serious flaws. Unfortunately, there are a few places where my
saber saw slipped and the blade punctured the skin where trim does not
cover it but I will try to seal these with epoxy and touch-up paint.
The windows will be installed this weekend and then the outside will
be finished. Then the fun starts because my wife insists on doing the
interior her way. This will mean endlessly looking at samples of
fabric and linoleum till I am ready to pick something at random.
Originally, I thought the camper would be ready for our annual
pilgrimage to Wyoming because the bears mountain lions and now wolves
have become a problem for campers. There was a story yesterday about
a family camping near Cody being attacked by a mountain lion.

Many years ago (Early 80s) we were camped near Hole-In-the -Wall
(Butch Cassiday's hideout) in the middle of nowhere (southern end of
the Bighorn Mountains) and could hear a mountain lion at night. My
wife and I (childless then) slept in our friends hard sided slide in
camper. In the morning, we found mountain lion tracks all over in the
snow around our camp.


Well, you were in its backyard...and it came out to investigate.
Wouldn't you do the same if you hear noises or smelled something strange
in your backyard?

We're still occasionally feeding the critters who walk through the
forest at the edge of our back yard. Foxes, raccoons, the occasional
possum, squirrels, groundhogs, birds, deer. It's getting tougher for
animals every day everywhere. And of course our helping them out a bit
really ****es off some of the posters in rec.boats. That alone makes it
worthwhile. I've been hoping for years that Reggie would have a stroke
over this.

Raccoons and foxes are just beautiful animals. So far, we haven't
encountered any that are "interested" in people. The deer remain skittish.

Cougars, by the way, are wonderful animals. An atypical example:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1tih6dsjCg

Nearing completion
 

On Jul 17, 12:06*pm, H the K wrote:
Frogwatch wrote:
On Jul 17, 11:49 am, Frogwatch wrote:
My slide-in truck camper based on a design from Glen-L is nearing
completion. *This project has taken far longer than expected and has
not been as much fun as I expected. *For awhile I was trying to build
the framing to boat building standards until I realized this was a
waste of epoxy. *The Glen-L design is from the late 70s and you have
to do some re-thinking for newer materials but seems to work.
The metal siding was more expensive than I expected. *I used actual RV
siding from an RV siding company and cutting it was a serious PITA
resulting in some wicked looking edges. *Fortunately, trim has covered
my most serious flaws. *Unfortunately, there are a few places where my
saber saw slipped and the blade punctured the skin where trim does not
cover it but I will try to seal these with epoxy and touch-up paint.
The windows will be installed this weekend and then the outside will
be finished. *Then the fun starts because my wife insists on doing the
interior her way. *This will mean endlessly looking at samples of
fabric and linoleum till I am ready to pick something at random.
Originally, I thought the camper would be ready for our annual
pilgrimage to Wyoming because the bears mountain lions and now wolves
have become a problem for campers. *There was a story yesterday about
a family camping near Cody being attacked by a mountain lion.

Many years ago (Early 80s) we were camped near Hole-In-the -Wall
(Butch Cassiday's hideout) in the middle of nowhere (southern end of
the Bighorn Mountains) and could hear a mountain lion at night. *My
wife and I (childless then) slept in our friends hard sided slide in
camper. *In the morning, we found mountain lion tracks all over in the
snow around our camp.

Well, you were in its backyard...and it came out to investigate.
Wouldn't you do the same if you hear noises or smelled something strange
in your backyard?

We're still occasionally feeding the critters who walk through the
forest at the edge of our back yard. Foxes, raccoons, the occasional
possum, squirrels, groundhogs, birds, deer. It's getting tougher for
animals every day everywhere. And of course our helping them out a bit
really ****es off some of the posters in rec.boats. That alone makes it
* worthwhile. I've been hoping for years that Reggie would have a stroke
over this.

Raccoons and foxes are just beautiful animals. So far, we haven't
encountered any that are "interested" in people. The deer remain skittish..

Cougars, by the way, are wonderful animals. An atypical example:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1tih6dsjCg

Oh, we love the animals there, we just dont want to unwillingly feed
them. I have lots of bear stories from my earlier camping days, been
there, done that and am now old enough to not want to worry anymore,
expecially with my 12 yr old daughter along.
As far as flying out there, we did that twice and it actually cost a
lot more and was inconvenient. Renting an RV for this length of time
is bizarro expensive.
Here is the actual plan. Drive from Tallahassee to Mundelein, Ill
(North Of Chicago) to spend a week with her family, this is two days
of driving. Drive from Mundelein to Casper via the Black Hills and
spend several days in the Black Hills just cuz its so pretty there,
the Sioux were right. Spend one month in Casper. Drive down to
Steamboat for an annual x-ray conference.
From there, I might go to a conference in San Francisco too.
Otherwise, back to FL by mid-August.
While in Casper, I can either work atop the mountain on my laptop
writing techie stuff or go down to the library every 3rd day to use
public wifi to communicate with the office in Tallahassee.
Two years ago, we spent 10 days in Casper, last year 2 weeks, this
year we were going for a month. Lots to do in the nearby mountains.
Even have some very large lakes to the west for boating.
This always takes up all the time from last week of June till mid
August.

Nearing completion
 

Frogwatch wrote:
On Jul 17, 12:06 pm, H the K wrote:
Frogwatch wrote:
On Jul 17, 11:49 am, Frogwatch wrote:
My slide-in truck camper based on a design from Glen-L is nearing
completion. This project has taken far longer than expected and has
not been as much fun as I expected. For awhile I was trying to build
the framing to boat building standards until I realized this was a
waste of epoxy. The Glen-L design is from the late 70s and you have
to do some re-thinking for newer materials but seems to work.
The metal siding was more expensive than I expected. I used actual RV
siding from an RV siding company and cutting it was a serious PITA
resulting in some wicked looking edges. Fortunately, trim has covered
my most serious flaws. Unfortunately, there are a few places where my
saber saw slipped and the blade punctured the skin where trim does not
cover it but I will try to seal these with epoxy and touch-up paint.
The windows will be installed this weekend and then the outside will
be finished. Then the fun starts because my wife insists on doing the
interior her way. This will mean endlessly looking at samples of
fabric and linoleum till I am ready to pick something at random.
Originally, I thought the camper would be ready for our annual
pilgrimage to Wyoming because the bears mountain lions and now wolves
have become a problem for campers. There was a story yesterday about
a family camping near Cody being attacked by a mountain lion.
Many years ago (Early 80s) we were camped near Hole-In-the -Wall
(Butch Cassiday's hideout) in the middle of nowhere (southern end of
the Bighorn Mountains) and could hear a mountain lion at night. My
wife and I (childless then) slept in our friends hard sided slide in
camper. In the morning, we found mountain lion tracks all over in the
snow around our camp.
Well, you were in its backyard...and it came out to investigate.
Wouldn't you do the same if you hear noises or smelled something strange
in your backyard?

We're still occasionally feeding the critters who walk through the
forest at the edge of our back yard. Foxes, raccoons, the occasional
possum, squirrels, groundhogs, birds, deer. It's getting tougher for
animals every day everywhere. And of course our helping them out a bit
really ****es off some of the posters in rec.boats. That alone makes it
worthwhile. I've been hoping for years that Reggie would have a stroke
over this.

Raccoons and foxes are just beautiful animals. So far, we haven't
encountered any that are "interested" in people. The deer remain skittish.

Cougars, by the way, are wonderful animals. An atypical example:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1tih6dsjCg

Oh, we love the animals there, we just dont want to unwillingly feed
them. I have lots of bear stories from my earlier camping days, been
there, done that and am now old enough to not want to worry anymore,
expecially with my 12 yr old daughter along.
As far as flying out there, we did that twice and it actually cost a
lot more and was inconvenient. Renting an RV for this length of time
is bizarro expensive.
Here is the actual plan. Drive from Tallahassee to Mundelein, Ill
(North Of Chicago) to spend a week with her family, this is two days
of driving. Drive from Mundelein to Casper via the Black Hills and
spend several days in the Black Hills just cuz its so pretty there,
the Sioux were right. Spend one month in Casper. Drive down to
Steamboat for an annual x-ray conference.
From there, I might go to a conference in San Francisco too.
Otherwise, back to FL by mid-August.
While in Casper, I can either work atop the mountain on my laptop
writing techie stuff or go down to the library every 3rd day to use
public wifi to communicate with the office in Tallahassee.
Two years ago, we spent 10 days in Casper, last year 2 weeks, this
year we were going for a month. Lots to do in the nearby mountains.
Even have some very large lakes to the west for boating.
This always takes up all the time from last week of June till mid
August.


That's a hell of a trip...

I've never been to Wyoming or Idaho. For reasons I cannot explain, I
have been to both Dakotas, though! :)

Nearing completion
 

On Jul 17, 12:19*pm, Frogwatch wrote:
On Jul 17, 12:06*pm, H the K wrote:



Frogwatch wrote:
On Jul 17, 11:49 am, Frogwatch wrote:
My slide-in truck camper based on a design from Glen-L is nearing
completion. *This project has taken far longer than expected and has
not been as much fun as I expected. *For awhile I was trying to build
the framing to boat building standards until I realized this was a
waste of epoxy. *The Glen-L design is from the late 70s and you have
to do some re-thinking for newer materials but seems to work.
The metal siding was more expensive than I expected. *I used actual RV
siding from an RV siding company and cutting it was a serious PITA
resulting in some wicked looking edges. *Fortunately, trim has covered
my most serious flaws. *Unfortunately, there are a few places where my
saber saw slipped and the blade punctured the skin where trim does not
cover it but I will try to seal these with epoxy and touch-up paint.
The windows will be installed this weekend and then the outside will
be finished. *Then the fun starts because my wife insists on doing the
interior her way. *This will mean endlessly looking at samples of
fabric and linoleum till I am ready to pick something at random.
Originally, I thought the camper would be ready for our annual
pilgrimage to Wyoming because the bears mountain lions and now wolves
have become a problem for campers. *There was a story yesterday about
a family camping near Cody being attacked by a mountain lion.

Many years ago (Early 80s) we were camped near Hole-In-the -Wall
(Butch Cassiday's hideout) in the middle of nowhere (southern end of
the Bighorn Mountains) and could hear a mountain lion at night. *My
wife and I (childless then) slept in our friends hard sided slide in
camper. *In the morning, we found mountain lion tracks all over in the
snow around our camp.

Well, you were in its backyard...and it came out to investigate.
Wouldn't you do the same if you hear noises or smelled something strange
in your backyard?

We're still occasionally feeding the critters who walk through the
forest at the edge of our back yard. Foxes, raccoons, the occasional
possum, squirrels, groundhogs, birds, deer. It's getting tougher for
animals every day everywhere. And of course our helping them out a bit
really ****es off some of the posters in rec.boats. That alone makes it
* worthwhile. I've been hoping for years that Reggie would have a stroke
over this.

Raccoons and foxes are just beautiful animals. So far, we haven't
encountered any that are "interested" in people. The deer remain skittish.

Cougars, by the way, are wonderful animals. An atypical example:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1tih6dsjCg

Oh, we love the animals there, we just dont want to unwillingly feed
them. *I have lots of bear stories from my earlier camping days, been
there, done that and am now old enough to not want to worry anymore,
expecially with my 12 yr old daughter along.
As far as flying out there, we did that twice and it actually cost a
lot more and was inconvenient. *Renting an RV for this length of time
is bizarro expensive.
Here is the actual plan. *Drive from Tallahassee to Mundelein, Ill
(North Of Chicago) to spend a week with her family, this is two days
of driving. *Drive from Mundelein to Casper via the Black Hills and
spend several days in the Black Hills just cuz its so pretty there,
the Sioux were right. *Spend one month in Casper. *Drive down to
Steamboat for an annual x-ray conference.
From there, I might go to a conference in San Francisco too.
Otherwise, back to FL by mid-August.
While in Casper, I can either work atop the mountain on my laptop
writing techie stuff or go down to the library every 3rd day to use
public wifi to communicate with the office in Tallahassee.
Two years ago, we spent 10 days in Casper, last year 2 weeks, this
year we were going for a month. *Lots to do in the nearby mountains.
Even have some very large lakes to the west for boating.
This always takes up all the time from last week of June till mid
August.

Up till now, the cheapest way to do this was to rent a van for a
month. My wife is the sort of negotiator who makes salesmen cry and
can get amazing deals on such. It is always fun to watch the reaction
of the rental people when we turn in the van, they expect maybe a
thousand miles and see 8500 miles.
Now with my new truck, we will take it.

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On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 09:19:29 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

On Jul 17, 12:06*pm, H the K wrote:
Frogwatch wrote:
On Jul 17, 11:49 am, Frogwatch wrote:
My slide-in truck camper based on a design from Glen-L is nearing
completion. *This project has taken far longer than expected and has
not been as much fun as I expected. *For awhile I was trying to build
the framing to boat building standards until I realized this was a
waste of epoxy. *The Glen-L design is from the late 70s and you have
to do some re-thinking for newer materials but seems to work.
The metal siding was more expensive than I expected. *I used actual RV
siding from an RV siding company and cutting it was a serious PITA
resulting in some wicked looking edges. *Fortunately, trim has covered
my most serious flaws. *Unfortunately, there are a few places where my
saber saw slipped and the blade punctured the skin where trim does not
cover it but I will try to seal these with epoxy and touch-up paint.
The windows will be installed this weekend and then the outside will
be finished. *Then the fun starts because my wife insists on doing the
interior her way. *This will mean endlessly looking at samples of
fabric and linoleum till I am ready to pick something at random.
Originally, I thought the camper would be ready for our annual
pilgrimage to Wyoming because the bears mountain lions and now wolves
have become a problem for campers. *There was a story yesterday about
a family camping near Cody being attacked by a mountain lion.

Many years ago (Early 80s) we were camped near Hole-In-the -Wall
(Butch Cassiday's hideout) in the middle of nowhere (southern end of
the Bighorn Mountains) and could hear a mountain lion at night. *My
wife and I (childless then) slept in our friends hard sided slide in
camper. *In the morning, we found mountain lion tracks all over in the
snow around our camp.

Well, you were in its backyard...and it came out to investigate.
Wouldn't you do the same if you hear noises or smelled something strange
in your backyard?

We're still occasionally feeding the critters who walk through the
forest at the edge of our back yard. Foxes, raccoons, the occasional
possum, squirrels, groundhogs, birds, deer. It's getting tougher for
animals every day everywhere. And of course our helping them out a bit
really ****es off some of the posters in rec.boats. That alone makes it
* worthwhile. I've been hoping for years that Reggie would have a stroke
over this.

Raccoons and foxes are just beautiful animals. So far, we haven't
encountered any that are "interested" in people. The deer remain skittish.

Cougars, by the way, are wonderful animals. An atypical example:
snipped

Harry seems not to realize that he is training raccoons to approach
humans, or that raccoons are the most frequent carriers of rabies in
the mid-Atlantic states (and probably others).

"Over 75% of the animals reported rabid in the mid-Atlantic area have
been raccoons; other affected wildlife include: skunks, bats, foxes,
and groundhogs, in decreasing order of frequency."

From: http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/00001255.htm

Even when rabid, raccoons and foxes are beautiful animals. Be careful.

Have you, during this construction project, thought that you may have
been better off with one of these?

http://www.travelizmo.com/archives/000931.html
--

John H

Nearing completion
 

On Jul 17, 12:41*pm, Lil' John wrote:
On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 09:19:29 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch



wrote:
On Jul 17, 12:06*pm, H the K wrote:
Frogwatch wrote:
On Jul 17, 11:49 am, Frogwatch wrote:
My slide-in truck camper based on a design from Glen-L is nearing
completion. *This project has taken far longer than expected and has
not been as much fun as I expected. *For awhile I was trying to build
the framing to boat building standards until I realized this was a
waste of epoxy. *The Glen-L design is from the late 70s and you have
to do some re-thinking for newer materials but seems to work.
The metal siding was more expensive than I expected. *I used actual RV
siding from an RV siding company and cutting it was a serious PITA
resulting in some wicked looking edges. *Fortunately, trim has covered
my most serious flaws. *Unfortunately, there are a few places where my
saber saw slipped and the blade punctured the skin where trim does not
cover it but I will try to seal these with epoxy and touch-up paint..
The windows will be installed this weekend and then the outside will
be finished. *Then the fun starts because my wife insists on doing the
interior her way. *This will mean endlessly looking at samples of
fabric and linoleum till I am ready to pick something at random.
Originally, I thought the camper would be ready for our annual
pilgrimage to Wyoming because the bears mountain lions and now wolves
have become a problem for campers. *There was a story yesterday about
a family camping near Cody being attacked by a mountain lion.

Many years ago (Early 80s) we were camped near Hole-In-the -Wall
(Butch Cassiday's hideout) in the middle of nowhere (southern end of
the Bighorn Mountains) and could hear a mountain lion at night. *My
wife and I (childless then) slept in our friends hard sided slide in
camper. *In the morning, we found mountain lion tracks all over in the
snow around our camp.

Well, you were in its backyard...and it came out to investigate.
Wouldn't you do the same if you hear noises or smelled something strange
in your backyard?

We're still occasionally feeding the critters who walk through the
forest at the edge of our back yard. Foxes, raccoons, the occasional
possum, squirrels, groundhogs, birds, deer. It's getting tougher for
animals every day everywhere. And of course our helping them out a bit
really ****es off some of the posters in rec.boats. That alone makes it
* worthwhile. I've been hoping for years that Reggie would have a stroke
over this.

Raccoons and foxes are just beautiful animals. So far, we haven't
encountered any that are "interested" in people. The deer remain skittish.

Cougars, by the way, are wonderful animals. An atypical example:

snipped

Harry seems not to realize that he is training raccoons to approach
humans, or that raccoons are the most frequent carriers of rabies in
the mid-Atlantic states (and probably others).

"Over 75% of the animals reported rabid in the mid-Atlantic area have
been raccoons; other affected wildlife include: skunks, bats, foxes,
and groundhogs, in decreasing order of frequency."

From:http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/00001255.htm

Even when rabid, raccoons and foxes are beautiful animals. Be careful.

Have you, during this construction project, thought that you may have
been better off with one of these?

http://www.travelizmo.com/archives/000931.html
--

John H

John:

I gave a pull behind trailer some thought but I also want to sometimes
take my 20' Tolman boat. We are only going to sleep in the camper so
space is not a problem. The place in WY has a 100 yr old log cabin we
could use if I could ever convince my family to sleep in it. I admit,
structurally, it is sorta "iffy".

For Google Earth, coords are 42 deg 43'32.03"N
106deg. 18'14.18" W

The view of Muddy Mt Google shows is what I see from the porch of the
cabin with some aspens in my view..

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On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 12:06:26 -0400, H the K wrote:


Cougars, by the way, are wonderful animals. An atypical example:

Cougars are a little different than the other animals you mention. We
are on their menu.

There's considerable debate/denial, but it seems cougars are returning to
the east slowly, but surely.

http://sports.espn.go.com/outdoors/g...columns/story?
columnist=springer_craig&page=c_col_Springer_couga r_east

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On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 12:41:31 -0400, Lil' John
wrote:

Have you, during this construction project, thought that you may have
been better off with one of these?

http://www.travelizmo.com/archives/000931.html



Any idea what the X-230DS with A/C would cost ?

Nearing completion
 

Frogwatch wrote:
On Jul 17, 12:41 pm, Lil' John wrote:
On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 09:19:29 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch



wrote:
On Jul 17, 12:06 pm, H the K wrote:
Frogwatch wrote:
On Jul 17, 11:49 am, Frogwatch wrote:
My slide-in truck camper based on a design from Glen-L is nearing
completion. This project has taken far longer than expected and has
not been as much fun as I expected. For awhile I was trying to build
the framing to boat building standards until I realized this was a
waste of epoxy. The Glen-L design is from the late 70s and you have
to do some re-thinking for newer materials but seems to work.
The metal siding was more expensive than I expected. I used actual RV
siding from an RV siding company and cutting it was a serious PITA
resulting in some wicked looking edges. Fortunately, trim has covered
my most serious flaws. Unfortunately, there are a few places where my
saber saw slipped and the blade punctured the skin where trim does not
cover it but I will try to seal these with epoxy and touch-up paint.
The windows will be installed this weekend and then the outside will
be finished. Then the fun starts because my wife insists on doing the
interior her way. This will mean endlessly looking at samples of
fabric and linoleum till I am ready to pick something at random.
Originally, I thought the camper would be ready for our annual
pilgrimage to Wyoming because the bears mountain lions and now wolves
have become a problem for campers. There was a story yesterday about
a family camping near Cody being attacked by a mountain lion.
Many years ago (Early 80s) we were camped near Hole-In-the -Wall
(Butch Cassiday's hideout) in the middle of nowhere (southern end of
the Bighorn Mountains) and could hear a mountain lion at night. My
wife and I (childless then) slept in our friends hard sided slide in
camper. In the morning, we found mountain lion tracks all over in the
snow around our camp.
Well, you were in its backyard...and it came out to investigate.
Wouldn't you do the same if you hear noises or smelled something strange
in your backyard?
We're still occasionally feeding the critters who walk through the
forest at the edge of our back yard. Foxes, raccoons, the occasional
possum, squirrels, groundhogs, birds, deer. It's getting tougher for
animals every day everywhere. And of course our helping them out a bit
really ****es off some of the posters in rec.boats. That alone makes it
worthwhile. I've been hoping for years that Reggie would have a stroke
over this.
Raccoons and foxes are just beautiful animals. So far, we haven't
encountered any that are "interested" in people. The deer remain skittish.
Cougars, by the way, are wonderful animals. An atypical example:
snipped

Harry seems not to realize that he is training raccoons to approach
humans, or that raccoons are the most frequent carriers of rabies in
the mid-Atlantic states (and probably others).

"Over 75% of the animals reported rabid in the mid-Atlantic area have
been raccoons; other affected wildlife include: skunks, bats, foxes,
and groundhogs, in decreasing order of frequency."

From:http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/00001255.htm

Even when rabid, raccoons and foxes are beautiful animals. Be careful.

Have you, during this construction project, thought that you may have
been better off with one of these?

http://www.travelizmo.com/archives/000931.html
--

John H

John:

I gave a pull behind trailer some thought but I also want to sometimes
take my 20' Tolman boat. We are only going to sleep in the camper so
space is not a problem. The place in WY has a 100 yr old log cabin we
could use if I could ever convince my family to sleep in it. I admit,
structurally, it is sorta "iffy".

For Google Earth, coords are 42 deg 43'32.03"N
106deg. 18'14.18" W

The view of Muddy Mt Google shows is what I see from the porch of the
cabin with some aspens in my view..


"I've been hoping for years that Reggie would have a stroke
over this."

Of course, if Herring had a stroke over this, it would be more than
acceptable. :)

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thunder wrote:
On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 12:06:26 -0400, H the K wrote:


Cougars, by the way, are wonderful animals. An atypical example:

Cougars are a little different than the other animals you mention. We
are on their menu.

There's considerable debate/denial, but it seems cougars are returning to
the east slowly, but surely.

http://sports.espn.go.com/outdoors/g...columns/story?
columnist=springer_craig&page=c_col_Springer_couga r_east


We've been intruding upon the habitat of cougars and other apex
predators for decades. We hunt and kill bears, wolves, cougars for
"sport." It's no surprise to me they are beginning to intrude on us.

I saw a piece on a cougar attack out in Wyoming somewhere. A guy, his
wife, and two very small kids were "camping" in an area not usually used
by "campers." They were visited by a fairly small and hungry cougar. The
guy fought off the cougar with a chainsaw, and it ran away, only to be
shot later by rangers. Well, I'm happy for the guy and his family. Maybe
next time, they'll stay out of deep critter habitat.

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On Jul 17, 1:15*pm, H the K wrote:
thunder wrote:
On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 12:06:26 -0400, H the K wrote:

Cougars, by the way, are wonderful animals. An atypical example:

Cougars are a little different than the other animals you mention. *We
are on their menu. *

There's considerable debate/denial, but it seems cougars are returning to
the east slowly, but surely.

http://sports.espn.go.com/outdoors/g...columns/story?

* columnist=springer_craig&page=c_col_Springer_couga r_east

We've been intruding upon the habitat of cougars and other apex
predators for decades. We hunt and kill bears, wolves, cougars for
"sport." It's no surprise to me they are beginning to intrude on us.

I saw a piece on a cougar attack out in Wyoming somewhere. A guy, his
wife, and two very small kids were "camping" in an area not usually used
by "campers." They were visited by a fairly small and hungry cougar. The
guy fought off the cougar with a chainsaw, and it ran away, only to be
shot later by rangers. Well, I'm happy for the guy and his family. Maybe
next time, they'll stay out of deep critter habitat.

I've never been fond of firearms although I have no objection to
them. However, with the bears being so plentiful there, I felt I
needed something other than a machete I carry in FL mostly to knock
down spiders so I bought a short barrel shotgun. I doubt I'd shoot
anything with it but maybe the noise would scare a bear.
Last year while wandering down a canyon beside a stream looking for a
cave, I was very concious of it being bear territory. I found fresh
elk tracks and then bear scat. The high grass and flowers all over
the place could easily hide a bear and her young and my daughter was
running ahead of me. I figure I will have to get her some bear pepper
spray and teach her to use it. I will also get some for myself and my
wife.

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"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 12:41:31 -0400, Lil' John
wrote:

Have you, during this construction project, thought that you may have
been better off with one of these?

http://www.travelizmo.com/archives/000931.html



Any idea what the X-230DS with A/C would cost ?


Probably a lot less than a year ago. Passing an RV dealer in Oakdale, CA
last Wed. there was an RV with slide outs on a big chevy chassis. $19k.

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On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 10:38:46 -0700, Frogwatch wrote:

I figure I will have to
get her some bear pepper spray and teach her to use it. I will also get
some for myself and my wife.

Nothing for nothing, but if it was my daughter, I'm not sure I would rely
on pepper spray.

http://www.gi.alaska.edu/ScienceForum/ASF12/1245.html

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On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 09:48:02 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

On Jul 17, 12:41*pm, Lil' John wrote:
On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 09:19:29 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch



wrote:
On Jul 17, 12:06*pm, H the K wrote:
Frogwatch wrote:
On Jul 17, 11:49 am, Frogwatch wrote:
My slide-in truck camper based on a design from Glen-L is nearing
completion. *This project has taken far longer than expected and has
not been as much fun as I expected. *For awhile I was trying to build
the framing to boat building standards until I realized this was a
waste of epoxy. *The Glen-L design is from the late 70s and you have
to do some re-thinking for newer materials but seems to work.
The metal siding was more expensive than I expected. *I used actual RV
siding from an RV siding company and cutting it was a serious PITA
resulting in some wicked looking edges. *Fortunately, trim has covered
my most serious flaws. *Unfortunately, there are a few places where my
saber saw slipped and the blade punctured the skin where trim does not
cover it but I will try to seal these with epoxy and touch-up paint.
The windows will be installed this weekend and then the outside will
be finished. *Then the fun starts because my wife insists on doing the
interior her way. *This will mean endlessly looking at samples of
fabric and linoleum till I am ready to pick something at random.
Originally, I thought the camper would be ready for our annual
pilgrimage to Wyoming because the bears mountain lions and now wolves
have become a problem for campers. *There was a story yesterday about
a family camping near Cody being attacked by a mountain lion.

Many years ago (Early 80s) we were camped near Hole-In-the -Wall
(Butch Cassiday's hideout) in the middle of nowhere (southern end of
the Bighorn Mountains) and could hear a mountain lion at night. *My
wife and I (childless then) slept in our friends hard sided slide in
camper. *In the morning, we found mountain lion tracks all over in the
snow around our camp.

Well, you were in its backyard...and it came out to investigate.
Wouldn't you do the same if you hear noises or smelled something strange
in your backyard?

We're still occasionally feeding the critters who walk through the
forest at the edge of our back yard. Foxes, raccoons, the occasional
possum, squirrels, groundhogs, birds, deer. It's getting tougher for
animals every day everywhere. And of course our helping them out a bit
really ****es off some of the posters in rec.boats. That alone makes it
* worthwhile. I've been hoping for years that Reggie would have a stroke
over this.

Raccoons and foxes are just beautiful animals. So far, we haven't
encountered any that are "interested" in people. The deer remain skittish.

Cougars, by the way, are wonderful animals. An atypical example:

snipped

Harry seems not to realize that he is training raccoons to approach
humans, or that raccoons are the most frequent carriers of rabies in
the mid-Atlantic states (and probably others).

"Over 75% of the animals reported rabid in the mid-Atlantic area have
been raccoons; other affected wildlife include: skunks, bats, foxes,
and groundhogs, in decreasing order of frequency."

From:http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/00001255.htm

Even when rabid, raccoons and foxes are beautiful animals. Be careful.

Have you, during this construction project, thought that you may have
been better off with one of these?

http://www.travelizmo.com/archives/000931.html
--

John H

John:

I gave a pull behind trailer some thought but I also want to sometimes
take my 20' Tolman boat. We are only going to sleep in the camper so
space is not a problem. The place in WY has a 100 yr old log cabin we
could use if I could ever convince my family to sleep in it. I admit,
structurally, it is sorta "iffy".

For Google Earth, coords are 42 deg 43'32.03"N
106deg. 18'14.18" W

The view of Muddy Mt Google shows is what I see from the porch of the
cabin with some aspens in my view..

That makes good sense.
--

John H