On Jul 16, 9:33*pm, Keith Nuttle wrote:
Canuck57 wrote:
"Jim" wrote in message
om...
Vic Smith wrote:
Can cause hydrolock, bent rods, warped heads, wiped bearings, etc.
Some catch it in the early stages and only pay $400-1200 to get it
fixed. I've spent some time in Pontiac, Buick and Chevy forums reading
about the pain and expense this poor design has caused.
This is why GM is doomed. *Not only would I never buy another one, but
when I see one on the highway I look to see what the fool who bought one
looks like.

Ditto. *A friend is gong to be buying a car shortly, says anything but a GM.
Me, I will not even rent one.

Is that why I have only gotten 200,000 trouble free miles on my last
several GM automobiles?

When you spread 200,000 miles over "several" vehicles, that's not many
miles per vehicle, so there's not much of a chance to have a problem.

If you're saying that you've put 200,000 miles *each* on several GM
vehicles and have had no problem, I'd have to call BS. Statistically
impossible.

Jack wrote:
On Jul 16, 9:33 pm, Keith Nuttle wrote:
Canuck57 wrote:
"Jim" wrote in message
m...
Vic Smith wrote:
Can cause hydrolock, bent rods, warped heads, wiped bearings, etc.
Some catch it in the early stages and only pay $400-1200 to get it
fixed. I've spent some time in Pontiac, Buick and Chevy forums reading
about the pain and expense this poor design has caused.
This is why GM is doomed. Not only would I never buy another one, but
when I see one on the highway I look to see what the fool who bought one
looks like.
Ditto. A friend is gong to be buying a car shortly, says anything but a GM.
Me, I will not even rent one.
Is that why I have only gotten 200,000 trouble free miles on my last
several GM automobiles?

When you spread 200,000 miles over "several" vehicles, that's not many
miles per vehicle, so there's not much of a chance to have a problem.

If you're saying that you've put 200,000 miles *each* on several GM
vehicles and have had no problem, I'd have to call BS. Statistically
impossible.

You need to leave the computer and come out to the real world. There are
no statistics involved. When you make trips to points that are 150 to
700 miles from where you live a couple of times per month, 200,000 miles
on one car is not impossible. In fact It is quite normal in the areas
where I have lived.

I have friends who are commuting 150 miles round trip each day. About a
year ago I was driving 70 miles round trip to work. It has been years
since I have to change even a simple thing like an alternator. I have
never lost an engine nor been left stranded by a car not working.

So I don't know where you are getting your information.

Keith Nuttle wrote:
Jack wrote:
On Jul 16, 9:33 pm, Keith Nuttle wrote:
Canuck57 wrote:
"Jim" wrote in message
m...
Vic Smith wrote:
Can cause hydrolock, bent rods, warped heads, wiped bearings, etc.
Some catch it in the early stages and only pay $400-1200 to get it
fixed. I've spent some time in Pontiac, Buick and Chevy forums
reading
about the pain and expense this poor design has caused.
This is why GM is doomed. Not only would I never buy another one, but
when I see one on the highway I look to see what the fool who
bought one
looks like.
Ditto. A friend is gong to be buying a car shortly, says anything
but a GM.
Me, I will not even rent one.
Is that why I have only gotten 200,000 trouble free miles on my last
several GM automobiles?

When you spread 200,000 miles over "several" vehicles, that's not many
miles per vehicle, so there's not much of a chance to have a problem.

If you're saying that you've put 200,000 miles *each* on several GM
vehicles and have had no problem, I'd have to call BS. Statistically
impossible.

You need to leave the computer and come out to the real world. There are
no statistics involved. When you make trips to points that are 150 to
700 miles from where you live a couple of times per month, 200,000 miles
on one car is not impossible. In fact It is quite normal in the areas
where I have lived.

I have friends who are commuting 150 miles round trip each day. About a
year ago I was driving 70 miles round trip to work. It has been years
since I have to change even a simple thing like an alternator. I have
never lost an engine nor been left stranded by a car not working.

So I don't know where you are getting your information.


My last year of undergraduate college, I was working a full-time night
job five days a week at an employer 50 miles away...for a round-trip of
about 100 miles.

About 190 trips, right? Close to 20,000 miles, on a used Volvo PV544
that had 80,000 miles on it when I bought. Never missed a beat.

On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 14:33:05 -0400, Keith Nuttle
wrote:


I have friends who are commuting 150 miles round trip each day. About a
year ago I was driving 70 miles round trip to work. It has been years
since I have to change even a simple thing like an alternator. I have
never lost an engine nor been left stranded by a car not working.

Longest commute I did was 75 miles a day, for about 2 1/2 years.
That about 50k miles just for the commuting part.
Seems many Californians have long commutes, and maybe the same for
those in those big states where people live far from work.
Easy enough to put on big miles.
I've seen plenty of 3 year-old cars with +100k on the odo.
Seem to recall seeing some 2 year old cars with the same.
I've never been stranded by a Chevy, but I take care of my cars.

--Vic

On Jul 17, 2:33*pm, Keith Nuttle wrote:
Jack wrote:
On Jul 16, 9:33 pm, Keith Nuttle wrote:
Canuck57 wrote:
"Jim" wrote in message
news:ssadne4ppbSDzcLXnZ2dnUVZ_hxi4p2d@earthlink .com...
Vic Smith wrote:
Can cause hydrolock, bent rods, warped heads, wiped bearings, etc.
Some catch it in the early stages and only pay $400-1200 to get it
fixed. I've spent some time in Pontiac, Buick and Chevy forums reading
about the pain and expense this poor design has caused.
This is why GM is doomed. *Not only would I never buy another one, but
when I see one on the highway I look to see what the fool who bought one
looks like.
Ditto. *A friend is gong to be buying a car shortly, says anything but a GM.
Me, I will not even rent one.
Is that why I have only gotten 200,000 trouble free miles on my last
several GM automobiles?

When you spread 200,000 miles over "several" vehicles, that's not many
miles per vehicle, so there's not much of a chance to have a problem.

If you're saying that you've put 200,000 miles *each* on several GM
vehicles and have had no problem, I'd have to call BS. *Statistically
impossible.

You need to leave the computer and come out to the real world. There are
no statistics involved. *When you make trips to points that are 150 to
700 miles from where you live a couple of times per month, 200,000 miles
on one car is not impossible. In fact It is quite normal in the areas
where I have lived.

I have friends who are commuting 150 miles round trip each day. *About a
year ago I was driving 70 miles round trip to work. *It has been years
since I have to change even a simple thing like an alternator. *I have
never lost an engine nor been left stranded by a car not working.

So I don't know where you are getting your information.

Please slow down and re-read my post. I never said that you weren't
putting 200k miles on a vehicle. Of course it can be done, and is
fairly regularly. Your friend that's commuting 150 miles round trip
is doing it every 4-5 years.

However, you said you've done it in "several" GM vehicles, all
"trouble-free". If we say that several equals four, then we're
talking about roughly a twenty year span. Considering GM's lack of
quality over that period, it is statistically unlikely that you''ve
racked up 800,000 miles on GM vehicles with only oil and filter and
tires, and without an alternator, starter, AC compressor, wheel
bearing, differential, oil leaks, blown tranny, or any of 100 other
maladies that affected GM vehicles over the last 20 years. Hondas and
Toyotas don't have *that* kind of reliability, and we *are* talking
about GM here.

But I guess if you don't call interior and exterior parts falling off
"trouble", and fixing a transmission at 120k is normal maintenance,
then OK. GM should hire you for a commercial. :-)