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Whoa - I would have loved to have seen that.

http://tinyurl.com/ltrj4d

F/A-18 flyby...
 

Captain Marvel of Woodstock wrote:
Whoa - I would have loved to have seen that.

http://tinyurl.com/ltrj4d


It's always nice when jet jockeys in the military disregard the risks to
which they expose civilians with their "show-off" antics. It's no wonder
you would have loved to have been there.

I'm sure the plane in the photo was not as close to the building as a
telephoto lens makes it appear, but...had anything untoward happened,
the plane could have plowed into the structure and killed a lot of people.

Sometimes down at Virginia Beach you see navy pilots doing that sort of
stuff, but they are doing it for flight practice, and over the water,
not in the airspace in between the hotels.

Perhaps you should head over to Afghanistan so you can get your
vicarious kicks from the military's bombing of "suspected" terrorist
residences that turn out to have held no targets but innocent civilians.
I'm sure the sight of burned, broken, and roasted bodies would turn you
on, eh?

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On Tue, 14 Jul 2009 08:17:53 -0400, H the K
wrote:

It's always nice when jet jockeys in the military disregard the risks to
which they expose civilians with their "show-off" antics. It's no wonder
you would have loved to have been there.

You didn't read the article - again - did you?

It was authorized.

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Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Tue, 14 Jul 2009 08:17:53 -0400, H the K
wrote:

It's always nice when jet jockeys in the military disregard the risks to
which they expose civilians with their "show-off" antics. It's no wonder
you would have loved to have been there.

You didn't read the article - again - did you?

It was authorized.


Of course it was "authorized." So what? It was still stupid and risky to
civilian populations.

"It was authorized."

What a wonderful, typically military excuse.

From an imaginary news story...


And the post-crash investigation revealed a part built by the
lowest-cost bidder failed at a critical moment, causing the pilot to
lose control of the aircraft just before it crashed into an apartment
building. Twenty-three men, women and children on the fourth and fifth
floor of that apartment building died in the mishap."

A spokesperson for the military said the accident was tragic, but
noted that "the flight was authorized."



Note that I am not saying the military should avoid dangerous flights,
or building fly-bys, or whatever. All manner of training is important to
military aviators. But there is training and there is stupidity, and
flying that close to an apartment building for the purpose of "showing
off" is stupidity. If building fly-by training is necessary, it should
be done on a relatively deserted part of a military base, or in the
desert. You know, where a lot of people aren't exposed to the risk.

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Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Tue, 14 Jul 2009 08:17:53 -0400, H the K
wrote:


You didn't read the article - again - did you?

It was authorized.

He's just WAFA. Why don't you **** can him? Or at least don't quote him!

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On Tue, 14 Jul 2009 08:22:55 -0400, Wizard of Woodstock
wrote:

On Tue, 14 Jul 2009 08:17:53 -0400, H the K
wrote:

It's always nice when jet jockeys in the military disregard the risks to
which they expose civilians with their "show-off" antics. It's no wonder
you would have loved to have been there.

You didn't read the article - again - did you?

It was authorized.

He gotcha, Tom!
--

John H

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"H the K" wrote in message
m...
Captain Marvel of Woodstock wrote:
Whoa - I would have loved to have seen that.

http://tinyurl.com/ltrj4d


It's always nice when jet jockeys in the military disregard the risks to
which they expose civilians with their "show-off" antics. It's no wonder
you would have loved to have been there.

I'm sure the plane in the photo was not as close to the building as a
telephoto lens makes it appear, but...had anything untoward happened, the
plane could have plowed into the structure and killed a lot of people.

Sometimes down at Virginia Beach you see navy pilots doing that sort of
stuff, but they are doing it for flight practice, and over the water, not
in the airspace in between the hotels.

Perhaps you should head over to Afghanistan so you can get your vicarious
kicks from the military's bombing of "suspected" terrorist residences that
turn out to have held no targets but innocent civilians.
I'm sure the sight of burned, broken, and roasted bodies would turn you
on, eh?

Another one in the **** can. plonk

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On Tue, 14 Jul 2009 11:27:15 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 14 Jul 2009 08:02:52 -0400, Captain Marvel of Woodstock
wrote:

Whoa - I would have loved to have seen that.

http://tinyurl.com/ltrj4d

Back in the olden days I used to get a show like that quite often in
Clinton Md when they were having an air show at Andrews. The fighters
were making a lot of their turns right over my house.
After a few of those crashes Harry is talking about they started being
a little more careful. It is scary when you think of it. The pilot may
be able to punch out but that plane is coming down somewhere.
There are not many places in suburban DC where that is not in
someone's house.

That's true. My son had to get special permission from the FAA and
his Squadron commander to do a low level flyby of the house on my 50th
birthday.

For some reason, they look absoutely HUGE even flying at 250 feet off
the deck.

Loud too. :)

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wrote:
On Tue, 14 Jul 2009 08:02:52 -0400, Captain Marvel of Woodstock
wrote:

Whoa - I would have loved to have seen that.

http://tinyurl.com/ltrj4d

Back in the olden days I used to get a show like that quite often in
Clinton Md when they were having an air show at Andrews. The fighters
were making a lot of their turns right over my house.
After a few of those crashes Harry is talking about they started being
a little more careful. It is scary when you think of it. The pilot may
be able to punch out but that plane is coming down somewhere.
There are not many places in suburban DC where that is not in
someone's house.


There's still a lot of touch and go training at Andrews, which is
dangerous enough, but as far as I know, no buzzing of apartment
buildings. I visit an indoor shooting range not far from the base, and
the entire building rattles every few minutes some days. If you are
wearing your shooting earmuffs, you don't hear a lot, but you can feel it.

F/A-18 flyby...
 

H the K wrote:
wrote:
On Tue, 14 Jul 2009 08:02:52 -0400, Captain Marvel of Woodstock
wrote:

Whoa - I would have loved to have seen that.

http://tinyurl.com/ltrj4d

Back in the olden days I used to get a show like that quite often in
Clinton Md when they were having an air show at Andrews. The fighters
were making a lot of their turns right over my house.
After a few of those crashes Harry is talking about they started being
a little more careful. It is scary when you think of it. The pilot may
be able to punch out but that plane is coming down somewhere.
There are not many places in suburban DC where that is not in
someone's house.


There's still a lot of touch and go training at Andrews, which is
dangerous enough, but as far as I know, no buzzing of apartment
buildings. I visit an indoor shooting range not far from the base, and
the entire building rattles every few minutes some days. If you are
wearing your shooting earmuffs, you don't hear a lot, but you can feel it.

You are just like the the idiots in Franklin Farms, at the end of the NW
-SE runway at Dulles. New home owners: "Can't something be done about
the noise?" Airport: "No, the airport has been here for 25 years before
your house was built at the end of the runway." New home owners: why is
there so much noise at 3:00 AM?" Airport: "We have a DC-10 engine test
facility. It wasn't a problem until your subdivision built about 1 year
ago."

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BAR wrote:
H the K wrote:
wrote:
On Tue, 14 Jul 2009 08:02:52 -0400, Captain Marvel of Woodstock
wrote:

Whoa - I would have loved to have seen that.

http://tinyurl.com/ltrj4d

Back in the olden days I used to get a show like that quite often in
Clinton Md when they were having an air show at Andrews. The fighters
were making a lot of their turns right over my house.
After a few of those crashes Harry is talking about they started being
a little more careful. It is scary when you think of it. The pilot may
be able to punch out but that plane is coming down somewhere.
There are not many places in suburban DC where that is not in
someone's house.


There's still a lot of touch and go training at Andrews, which is
dangerous enough, but as far as I know, no buzzing of apartment
buildings. I visit an indoor shooting range not far from the base, and
the entire building rattles every few minutes some days. If you are
wearing your shooting earmuffs, you don't hear a lot, but you can feel
it.

You are just like the the idiots in Franklin Farms, at the end of the NW
-SE runway at Dulles. New home owners: "Can't something be done about
the noise?" Airport: "No, the airport has been here for 25 years before
your house was built at the end of the runway." New home owners: why is
there so much noise at 3:00 AM?" Airport: "We have a DC-10 engine test
facility. It wasn't a problem until your subdivision built about 1 year
ago."


What are you raving about? I don't live anywhere near Andrews, and
whatever happens there these days is no concern of mine. Once in a
while, if I am at a shooting range near the base, I hear an air force
plane passing over.

If you are on meds, they aren't working for you.

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I used to go to the drag races in Las Vegas twice a year. Across the street
is Nellis Air Force Base. At times, Red Flag exercises coincide with the
drags. We get a nice flyover on Sunday, and a jump in by the parachute
team. All sorts of aircraft, and some of them really hot dogging. Some
taking off and going vertical to 30,000 and leveling off. The boomerang
shaped bomber ..... man does that thing go slow. Raptors. Hercules.
Ospreys. Blackhawks. Apaches. A-10's ...... they can do 70 mph lowest
speed. AWACS, all the big planes and a lot of the little hot rods, too. We
stay in the motorhome area, and get a lot of close looks.

Steve

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On Tue, 14 Jul 2009 15:33:42 -0600, "SteveB"
wrote:

conversation snipped .........

I used to go to the drag races in Las Vegas twice a year. Across the street
is Nellis Air Force Base. At times, Red Flag exercises coincide with the
drags. We get a nice flyover on Sunday, and a jump in by the parachute
team. All sorts of aircraft, and some of them really hot dogging. Some
taking off and going vertical to 30,000 and leveling off. The boomerang
shaped bomber ..... man does that thing go slow. Raptors. Hercules.
Ospreys. Blackhawks. Apaches. A-10's ...... they can do 70 mph lowest
speed. AWACS, all the big planes and a lot of the little hot rods, too. We
stay in the motorhome area, and get a lot of close looks.

Steve


Don't you just sit on pins and needles, constantly worried for your
life?
--

John H

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On Tue, 14 Jul 2009 08:37:51 -0400, H the K
wrote:

Note that I am not saying the military should avoid dangerous flights,
or building fly-bys, or whatever. All manner of training is important to
military aviators. But there is training and there is stupidity, and
flying that close to an apartment building for the purpose of "showing
off" is stup

Close to the building? It looks like the camera was far from the
scene, and used a very long lens. With the flattened perspective the
plane could fair distance, a couple of hundred feet or more, from the
building.

Casady

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"H the K" wrote in message
m...


There's still a lot of touch and go training at Andrews, which is
dangerous enough, but as far as I know, no buzzing of apartment buildings.
I visit an indoor shooting range not far from the base, and the entire
building rattles every few minutes some days. If you are wearing your
shooting earmuffs, you don't hear a lot, but you can feel it.

Pretty much sums up your combat experience.

Eisboch

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Richard Casady wrote:
On Tue, 14 Jul 2009 08:37:51 -0400, H the K
wrote:

Note that I am not saying the military should avoid dangerous flights,
or building fly-bys, or whatever. All manner of training is important to
military aviators. But there is training and there is stupidity, and
flying that close to an apartment building for the purpose of "showing
off" is stup

Close to the building? It looks like the camera was far from the
scene, and used a very long lens. With the flattened perspective the
plane could fair distance, a couple of hundred feet or more, from the
building.

Casady

Indeed, I mentioned that, but...we don't really know, do we?

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Eisboch wrote:
"H the K" wrote in message
m...

There's still a lot of touch and go training at Andrews, which is
dangerous enough, but as far as I know, no buzzing of apartment buildings.
I visit an indoor shooting range not far from the base, and the entire
building rattles every few minutes some days. If you are wearing your
shooting earmuffs, you don't hear a lot, but you can feel it.

Pretty much sums up your combat experience.

Eisboch




Are you in training for King of the Non Sequiturs?

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"H the K" wrote in message
m...
Eisboch wrote:
"H the K" wrote in message
m...

There's still a lot of touch and go training at Andrews, which is
dangerous enough, but as far as I know, no buzzing of apartment
buildings. I visit an indoor shooting range not far from the base, and
the entire building rattles every few minutes some days. If you are
wearing your shooting earmuffs, you don't hear a lot, but you can feel
it.

Pretty much sums up your combat experience.

Eisboch


Are you in training for King of the Non Sequiturs?

Just having some fun.

Eisboch

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H the K wrote:
Captain Marvel of Woodstock wrote:
Whoa - I would have loved to have seen that.

http://tinyurl.com/ltrj4d


It's always nice when jet jockeys in the military disregard the risks to
which they expose civilians with their "show-off" antics. It's no wonder
you would have loved to have been there.

I'm sure the plane in the photo was not as close to the building as a
telephoto lens makes it appear, but...had anything untoward happened,
the plane could have plowed into the structure and killed a lot of people.

Sometimes down at Virginia Beach you see navy pilots doing that sort of
stuff, but they are doing it for flight practice, and over the water,
not in the airspace in between the hotels.

Perhaps you should head over to Afghanistan so you can get your
vicarious kicks from the military's bombing of "suspected" terrorist
residences that turn out to have held no targets but innocent civilians.
I'm sure the sight of burned, broken, and roasted bodies would turn you
on, eh?


So AF1 with F16's in tow was OK in NYC? You really define yourself, WAFA.

F/A-18 flyby...
 

"D" wrote in message
...
H the K wrote:
Captain Marvel of Woodstock wrote:
Whoa - I would have loved to have seen that.

http://tinyurl.com/ltrj4d


It's always nice when jet jockeys in the military disregard the risks to
which they expose civilians with their "show-off" antics. It's no wonder
you would have loved to have been there.

I'm sure the plane in the photo was not as close to the building as a
telephoto lens makes it appear, but...had anything untoward happened, the
plane could have plowed into the structure and killed a lot of people.

Sometimes down at Virginia Beach you see navy pilots doing that sort of
stuff, but they are doing it for flight practice, and over the water, not
in the airspace in between the hotels.

Perhaps you should head over to Afghanistan so you can get your vicarious
kicks from the military's bombing of "suspected" terrorist residences
that turn out to have held no targets but innocent civilians.
I'm sure the sight of burned, broken, and roasted bodies would turn you
on, eh?


So AF1 with F16's in tow was OK in NYC? You really define yourself, WAFA.

Reminds me of landing at the old Hong Kong Airport. Look out the window of
the plane and the laundry hanging on poles off the apartment buildings look
like they are 50' from the wing tips.

F/A-18 flyby...
 

On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 22:05:19 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"D" wrote in message
...
H the K wrote:
Captain Marvel of Woodstock wrote:
Whoa - I would have loved to have seen that.

http://tinyurl.com/ltrj4d


It's always nice when jet jockeys in the military disregard the risks to
which they expose civilians with their "show-off" antics. It's no wonder
you would have loved to have been there.

I'm sure the plane in the photo was not as close to the building as a
telephoto lens makes it appear, but...had anything untoward happened, the
plane could have plowed into the structure and killed a lot of people.

Sometimes down at Virginia Beach you see navy pilots doing that sort of
stuff, but they are doing it for flight practice, and over the water, not
in the airspace in between the hotels.

Perhaps you should head over to Afghanistan so you can get your vicarious
kicks from the military's bombing of "suspected" terrorist residences
that turn out to have held no targets but innocent civilians.
I'm sure the sight of burned, broken, and roasted bodies would turn you
on, eh?


So AF1 with F16's in tow was OK in NYC? You really define yourself, WAFA.

Reminds me of landing at the old Hong Kong Airport. Look out the window of
the plane and the laundry hanging on poles off the apartment buildings look
like they are 50' from the wing tips.

I flew into Hong Kong on a AC-47 once - that was an experience I"ll
tell you what. :)

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H the K wrote:
BAR wrote:
H the K wrote:
wrote:
On Tue, 14 Jul 2009 08:02:52 -0400, Captain Marvel of Woodstock
wrote:

Whoa - I would have loved to have seen that.

http://tinyurl.com/ltrj4d

Back in the olden days I used to get a show like that quite often in
Clinton Md when they were having an air show at Andrews. The fighters
were making a lot of their turns right over my house.
After a few of those crashes Harry is talking about they started being
a little more careful. It is scary when you think of it. The pilot may
be able to punch out but that plane is coming down somewhere.
There are not many places in suburban DC where that is not in
someone's house.


There's still a lot of touch and go training at Andrews, which is
dangerous enough, but as far as I know, no buzzing of apartment
buildings. I visit an indoor shooting range not far from the base,
and the entire building rattles every few minutes some days. If you
are wearing your shooting earmuffs, you don't hear a lot, but you can
feel it.

You are just like the the idiots in Franklin Farms, at the end of the
NW -SE runway at Dulles. New home owners: "Can't something be done
about the noise?" Airport: "No, the airport has been here for 25 years
before your house was built at the end of the runway." New home
owners: why is there so much noise at 3:00 AM?" Airport: "We have a
DC-10 engine test facility. It wasn't a problem until your subdivision
built about 1 year ago."


What are you raving about? I don't live anywhere near Andrews, and
whatever happens there these days is no concern of mine. Once in a
while, if I am at a shooting range near the base, I hear an air force
plane passing over.

If you are on meds, they aren't working for you.

I rest my case.

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Calif Bill wrote:
"D" wrote in message
...
H the K wrote:
Captain Marvel of Woodstock wrote:
Whoa - I would have loved to have seen that.

http://tinyurl.com/ltrj4d

It's always nice when jet jockeys in the military disregard the risks to
which they expose civilians with their "show-off" antics. It's no wonder
you would have loved to have been there.

I'm sure the plane in the photo was not as close to the building as a
telephoto lens makes it appear, but...had anything untoward happened, the
plane could have plowed into the structure and killed a lot of people.

Sometimes down at Virginia Beach you see navy pilots doing that sort of
stuff, but they are doing it for flight practice, and over the water, not
in the airspace in between the hotels.

Perhaps you should head over to Afghanistan so you can get your vicarious
kicks from the military's bombing of "suspected" terrorist residences
that turn out to have held no targets but innocent civilians.
I'm sure the sight of burned, broken, and roasted bodies would turn you
on, eh?

So AF1 with F16's in tow was OK in NYC? You really define yourself, WAFA.

Reminds me of landing at the old Hong Kong Airport. Look out the window of
the plane and the laundry hanging on poles off the apartment buildings look
like they are 50' from the wing tips.



And just a little bit of a crosswind!!!:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dd9NM9vsGD8

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BAR wrote:
H the K wrote:
BAR wrote:
H the K wrote:
wrote:
On Tue, 14 Jul 2009 08:02:52 -0400, Captain Marvel of Woodstock
wrote:

Whoa - I would have loved to have seen that.

http://tinyurl.com/ltrj4d

Back in the olden days I used to get a show like that quite often in
Clinton Md when they were having an air show at Andrews. The fighters
were making a lot of their turns right over my house.
After a few of those crashes Harry is talking about they started being
a little more careful. It is scary when you think of it. The pilot may
be able to punch out but that plane is coming down somewhere.
There are not many places in suburban DC where that is not in
someone's house.


There's still a lot of touch and go training at Andrews, which is
dangerous enough, but as far as I know, no buzzing of apartment
buildings. I visit an indoor shooting range not far from the base,
and the entire building rattles every few minutes some days. If you
are wearing your shooting earmuffs, you don't hear a lot, but you
can feel it.

You are just like the the idiots in Franklin Farms, at the end of the
NW -SE runway at Dulles. New home owners: "Can't something be done
about the noise?" Airport: "No, the airport has been here for 25
years before your house was built at the end of the runway." New home
owners: why is there so much noise at 3:00 AM?" Airport: "We have a
DC-10 engine test facility. It wasn't a problem until your
subdivision built about 1 year ago."


What are you raving about? I don't live anywhere near Andrews, and
whatever happens there these days is no concern of mine. Once in a
while, if I am at a shooting range near the base, I hear an air force
plane passing over.

If you are on meds, they aren't working for you.

I rest my case.

You ought to rest your keyboard, because as usual you are making no
sense at all. Where did you see me complain about Andrews AFB?

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"Guru of Woodstock" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 22:05:19 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"D" wrote in message
...
H the K wrote:
Captain Marvel of Woodstock wrote:
Whoa - I would have loved to have seen that.

http://tinyurl.com/ltrj4d


It's always nice when jet jockeys in the military disregard the risks
to
which they expose civilians with their "show-off" antics. It's no
wonder
you would have loved to have been there.

I'm sure the plane in the photo was not as close to the building as a
telephoto lens makes it appear, but...had anything untoward happened,
the
plane could have plowed into the structure and killed a lot of people.

Sometimes down at Virginia Beach you see navy pilots doing that sort of
stuff, but they are doing it for flight practice, and over the water,
not
in the airspace in between the hotels.

Perhaps you should head over to Afghanistan so you can get your
vicarious
kicks from the military's bombing of "suspected" terrorist residences
that turn out to have held no targets but innocent civilians.
I'm sure the sight of burned, broken, and roasted bodies would turn you
on, eh?


So AF1 with F16's in tow was OK in NYC? You really define yourself,
WAFA.

Reminds me of landing at the old Hong Kong Airport. Look out the window
of
the plane and the laundry hanging on poles off the apartment buildings
look
like they are 50' from the wing tips.

I flew into Hong Kong on a AC-47 once - that was an experience I"ll
tell you what. :)

Only people with more firepower than the airport cops, eh?

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On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 12:51:00 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"Guru of Woodstock" wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 22:05:19 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"D" wrote in message
...
H the K wrote:
Captain Marvel of Woodstock wrote:
Whoa - I would have loved to have seen that.

http://tinyurl.com/ltrj4d


It's always nice when jet jockeys in the military disregard the risks
to
which they expose civilians with their "show-off" antics. It's no
wonder
you would have loved to have been there.

I'm sure the plane in the photo was not as close to the building as a
telephoto lens makes it appear, but...had anything untoward happened,
the
plane could have plowed into the structure and killed a lot of people.

Sometimes down at Virginia Beach you see navy pilots doing that sort of
stuff, but they are doing it for flight practice, and over the water,
not
in the airspace in between the hotels.

Perhaps you should head over to Afghanistan so you can get your
vicarious
kicks from the military's bombing of "suspected" terrorist residences
that turn out to have held no targets but innocent civilians.
I'm sure the sight of burned, broken, and roasted bodies would turn you
on, eh?


So AF1 with F16's in tow was OK in NYC? You really define yourself,
WAFA.

Reminds me of landing at the old Hong Kong Airport. Look out the window
of
the plane and the laundry hanging on poles off the apartment buildings
look
like they are 50' from the wing tips.

I flew into Hong Kong on a AC-47 once - that was an experience I"ll
tell you what. :)

Only people with more firepower than the airport cops, eh?

Actually, I think the cops were out gunned. :)