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Dionysus Feldman September 11th 03 03:42 PM

New Boat Owner
 
Yesterday was one of the best days of my boating life. We consummated
the deal for "Just Crusin'", to be renamed by next season.

She's a 1977 Sea Ray 240 SRV, which is an enclosed cockpit with a cuddy-
type berth. In the catalog they call it a "sedan" boat (catalogs are
available from Sea Ray back for quite some time). She has a new bilge
pump, steering cables, the baffles are very recent and only 321 hours on
her. Her 255 Mercruiser passed a compression test.

Things we found:
1. Sharp changes in RPM cause her to veer sharply.
2. I didn't notice a distinct "plane" point, as I have on smaller ski
boats. I don't know if that's a semi-displacement hull talking, or the
size of her or just the way she is. The transition between displacement
and plane isn't clear -- that it, the transition is so smooth as to be
indistinct.
3. "Cruise" speed: there wasn't any obvious way to figure out where to
maximize mileage (knotage?). She got up to 3800 RPM and 27kts
(according to fish finder) at WOT, and I've read that cruising speed is
about 65% of RPMs, but she seems to need 3000 RPM to plane, and then
we're only going 17-18 knots.
4. When replacing the steering cable it looks like the trim tab sensors
were disconnected. While they have been reconnect to power, I have to
see if they can be reconnected to the trim tabs. The water pump isn't
working, and I don't know where
5. I still need to inventory the boat and see what kind of things I
need. The old owners also owned a Marine supply store and were kind
enough to give me new flares, boat hook and fire extinguisher. We need
to get some extra life jackets (we bought enough for three of us, but we
expect we'll have more people on board eventually.
6. We're docking it at a local marina, and we are clearly the crappiest
boat there. The docks are so high that getting down to our boat is a
real challenge. Not just for us, but for our Lab, too. We're looking
at ladder and plank ideas that include something a Lab can do.

Kelton Joyner September 11th 03 03:53 PM

New Boat Owner
 
The next "best day in your boating life" will be the day that you sell
the boat.

Dionysus Feldman wrote:
Yesterday was one of the best days of my boating life. We consummated
the deal for "Just Crusin'", to be renamed by next season.

She's a 1977 Sea Ray 240 SRV, which is an enclosed cockpit with a cuddy-
type berth. In the catalog they call it a "sedan" boat (catalogs are
available from Sea Ray back for quite some time). She has a new bilge
pump, steering cables, the baffles are very recent and only 321 hours on
her. Her 255 Mercruiser passed a compression test.

Things we found:
1. Sharp changes in RPM cause her to veer sharply.
2. I didn't notice a distinct "plane" point, as I have on smaller ski
boats. I don't know if that's a semi-displacement hull talking, or the
size of her or just the way she is. The transition between displacement
and plane isn't clear -- that it, the transition is so smooth as to be
indistinct.
3. "Cruise" speed: there wasn't any obvious way to figure out where to
maximize mileage (knotage?). She got up to 3800 RPM and 27kts
(according to fish finder) at WOT, and I've read that cruising speed is
about 65% of RPMs, but she seems to need 3000 RPM to plane, and then
we're only going 17-18 knots.
4. When replacing the steering cable it looks like the trim tab sensors
were disconnected. While they have been reconnect to power, I have to
see if they can be reconnected to the trim tabs. The water pump isn't
working, and I don't know where
5. I still need to inventory the boat and see what kind of things I
need. The old owners also owned a Marine supply store and were kind
enough to give me new flares, boat hook and fire extinguisher. We need
to get some extra life jackets (we bought enough for three of us, but we
expect we'll have more people on board eventually.
6. We're docking it at a local marina, and we are clearly the crappiest
boat there. The docks are so high that getting down to our boat is a
real challenge. Not just for us, but for our Lab, too. We're looking
at ladder and plank ideas that include something a Lab can do.



Clams Canino September 11th 03 04:06 PM

New Boat Owner
 
Throw a peice of poultry meat in the boat - and you'll see the Lab has no
problems. :)

-W

"Dionysus Feldman" wrote in message

We're looking
at ladder and plank ideas that include something a Lab can do.




Me September 11th 03 06:10 PM

New Boat Owner
 

"Kelton Joyner" wrote in message
...
The next "best day in your boating life" will be the day that you sell
the boat.


That is rubbish peddled by people who made a bad financial decision, got
burned, or were trying to operate a boat beyond their means.


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DJ September 11th 03 11:28 PM

New Boat Owner
 
Hell with my lab, a dried up old apple core would do it!

DJ

"Clams Canino" wrote in message
t...
Throw a peice of poultry meat in the boat - and you'll see the Lab has no
problems. :)

-W

"Dionysus Feldman" wrote in message

We're looking
at ladder and plank ideas that include something a Lab can do.






DJ September 11th 03 11:33 PM

New Boat Owner
 
"Dionysus Feldman" wrote

[snip info and questions]

3. "Cruise" speed: there wasn't any obvious way to figure out where to
maximize mileage (knotage?). She got up to 3800 RPM and 27kts
(according to fish finder) at WOT, and I've read that cruising speed is
about 65% of RPMs, but she seems to need 3000 RPM to plane, and then
we're only going 17-18 knots.


You might consider getting a fuel flow meter. They aren't really expensive
in the all around scheme of boating, if you know what I mean. And,
depending on how your boat's set up, they can be an easy DIY to install.
With the GPS someone else recommended, you can calculate fuel flow per mile
for various RPMs. Or, if you want to make the investment, you can buy a
fuel flow meter that is coupled with your GPS for automatic fuel efficiency
calculations.

[more snips]

6. We're docking it at a local marina, and we are clearly the crappiest
boat there. The docks are so high that getting down to our boat is a
real challenge. Not just for us, but for our Lab, too. We're looking
at ladder and plank ideas that include something a Lab can do.


My answer to the Lab issue in another response 8-).

DJ



Calif Bill September 12th 03 12:25 AM

New Boat Owner
 

"Me" wrote in message
...

"Kelton Joyner" wrote in message
...
The next "best day in your boating life" will be the day that you sell
the boat.


That is rubbish peddled by people who made a bad financial decision, got
burned, or were trying to operate a boat beyond their means.


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People actually sell their boat? I just seem to keep aquiring, without
disposing. I am trying to sell my 14/ alum boat and trailer.
Bill



Joe Parsons September 12th 03 01:29 AM

New Boat Owner
 
On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 14:33:39 -0800, "DJ" wrote:

"Dionysus Feldman" wrote

[snip info and questions]

3. "Cruise" speed: there wasn't any obvious way to figure out where to
maximize mileage (knotage?). She got up to 3800 RPM and 27kts
(according to fish finder) at WOT, and I've read that cruising speed is
about 65% of RPMs, but she seems to need 3000 RPM to plane, and then
we're only going 17-18 knots.


You might consider getting a fuel flow meter. They aren't really expensive
in the all around scheme of boating, if you know what I mean. And,
depending on how your boat's set up, they can be an easy DIY to install.
With the GPS someone else recommended, you can calculate fuel flow per mile
for various RPMs. Or, if you want to make the investment, you can buy a
fuel flow meter that is coupled with your GPS for automatic fuel efficiency
calculations.


I am surprised more people don't use them. I bought a NavMan for about $140
(IIRC), although I, um, haven't gotten around to installing it just yet.

With the price of fuel these days, it seems to me that even with a small engine
like my Volvo 4 banger, a flow meter will pay for itself in a season, or less.

The NavMan site is at www.navman.com/marine/products/fuel

Joe Parsons


[more snips]

6. We're docking it at a local marina, and we are clearly the crappiest
boat there. The docks are so high that getting down to our boat is a
real challenge. Not just for us, but for our Lab, too. We're looking
at ladder and plank ideas that include something a Lab can do.


My answer to the Lab issue in another response 8-).

DJ



Wayne.B September 12th 03 02:10 AM

New Boat Owner
 
On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 10:42:04 -0400,
(Dionysus Feldman) wrote:

1. Sharp changes in RPM cause her to veer sharply.

That may be an indication that the bow is trimmed too far down and it
is digging in.

2. I didn't notice a distinct "plane" point, as I have on smaller ski
boats. I don't know if that's a semi-displacement hull talking, or the
size of her or just the way she is. The transition between displacement
and plane isn't clear -- that it, the transition is so smooth as to be
indistinct.

Lack of distinct "plane point" is not uncommon with heavier boats and
a V-bottom but it is usually arounf 17 to 19 knots for a boat of that
size.

3. "Cruise" speed: there wasn't any obvious way to figure out where to
maximize mileage (knotage?). She got up to 3800 RPM and 27kts
(according to fish finder) at WOT, and I've read that cruising speed is
about 65% of RPMs, but she seems to need 3000 RPM to plane, and then
we're only going 17-18 knots.

That engine should turn in the mid 4,000 range if everything is set up
properly and running right. Normal cruising RPMs are 3,200 to 3,400
RPM (about 70%).


Wayne.B September 12th 03 02:33 AM

New Boat Owner
 
On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 23:25:31 GMT, "Calif Bill"
wrote:
People actually sell their boat? I just seem to keep aquiring, without
disposing. I am trying to sell my 14/ alum boat and trailer.

====================

No problem. I will take your 14 footer and $77,000 in trade on my
Bertram 33. Delivery of 14 footer not required. :-)



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