I hate sheet metal work
 

On Sat, 04 Jul 2009 16:14:37 -0600, SteveB wrote:


BTDT. Can't be done. Looks and sounds plausible, but it just shakes
too much, then binds, then goes flying into the next zip code. No clean
edges, either.

Steve

Turn the blade backwards, and go very slowly. The result would be
adequate, just adequate. Personally, I would use manual snips, but the
right snips. Those yellow handled Wiss snips aren't the only ones out
there. There are left cutting, right cutting, and offset snips. A pair
of right and left offsets would make the job considerably easier.

http://www.toolbarn.com/cgi-bin/sear...=aviator+snips

I hate sheet metal work
 

On Sat, 04 Jul 2009 17:43:18 -0500, thunder
wrote:

On Sat, 04 Jul 2009 16:14:37 -0600, SteveB wrote:


BTDT. Can't be done. Looks and sounds plausible, but it just shakes
too much, then binds, then goes flying into the next zip code. No clean
edges, either.

Steve

Turn the blade backwards, and go very slowly. The result would be
adequate, just adequate. Personally, I would use manual snips, but the
right snips. Those yellow handled Wiss snips aren't the only ones out
there. There are left cutting, right cutting, and offset snips. A pair
of right and left offsets would make the job considerably easier.

http://www.toolbarn.com/cgi-bin/sear...=aviator+snips

I've had some Wiss snips, and others, and quality/design counts.
The air snips sound good. Haven't cut much tin, but the problem is
always the curling metal. Just makes it all clumsy. For the non-pro
anyway.
I was thinking they might have a toothless circular blade now that
would avoid kickback, like the counter-rotating Dualsaw is supposed to
do, but maybe not. In the demo of that they cut metal.
BTW, I'm not recommending the Dualsaw.
After all, all I know about it comes from Billy Mays.

--Vic

I hate sheet metal work
 

On Sat, 04 Jul 2009 18:44:17 -0500, Vic Smith wrote:


I've had some Wiss snips, and others, and quality/design counts. The air
snips sound good. Haven't cut much tin, but the problem is always the
curling metal. Just makes it all clumsy.

That's where the offset snips come in. They can cut through large flat
sheets with out much curling. Also, the yellow handled snips (straight
cutting) are a tremendous compromise. If you're going to do any amount
of cutting, you need both left and right cutting snips.

I hate sheet metal work
 

"thunder" wrote in message
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On Sat, 04 Jul 2009 16:14:37 -0600, SteveB wrote:


BTDT. Can't be done. Looks and sounds plausible, but it just shakes
too much, then binds, then goes flying into the next zip code. No clean
edges, either.

Steve

Turn the blade backwards, and go very slowly. The result would be
adequate, just adequate. Personally, I would use manual snips, but the
right snips. Those yellow handled Wiss snips aren't the only ones out
there. There are left cutting, right cutting, and offset snips. A pair
of right and left offsets would make the job considerably easier.

http://www.toolbarn.com/cgi-bin/sear...=aviator+snips

I have about six pairs of snips that cut in every direction. I have
attempted to cut sheet metal with a metal cutting blade, but not a regular
blade reversed. I have attempted it enough times to know that unless it's a
box trailer stuck under an underpass, and it don't matter what it looks like
once you've cut it, no power does a very good job. Unless you are at a
factory, and can use a power shear with two blades that match the profile of
the goods.

YMM(and probably does)V

Steve

I hate sheet metal work
 

"thunder" wrote in message
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On Sat, 04 Jul 2009 18:44:17 -0500, Vic Smith wrote:


I've had some Wiss snips, and others, and quality/design counts. The air
snips sound good. Haven't cut much tin, but the problem is always the
curling metal. Just makes it all clumsy.

That's where the offset snips come in. They can cut through large flat
sheets with out much curling. Also, the yellow handled snips (straight
cutting) are a tremendous compromise. If you're going to do any amount
of cutting, you need both left and right cutting snips.

Thoroughly agreed. But I have cut enough 4' x 10' panels of paint lock to
know that even with the proper tools, it's a booger once your cut gets about
a foot long and you have to keep the metal separated so your blade can get
to the fresh material to continue cutting. Try making a ten foot long
undulating cut on 22 ga. paintlock.

Your hands are sore for days, and one box of Band-Aids ain't enough.

Steve

I hate sheet metal work
 

On Jul 4, 3:14*pm, HK wrote:
Frogwatch wrote:
Trying to put the sheet metal roof on my camper. *It has to be cut to
size with tin snips giving edges that could take your arm off. *The
sabre saw does an even worse job. *It'll be ok in the end but I hate
this stuff.
Boat building was much more fun..

Stop whining: find someone who knows how to handle sheet metal, and has
the tools to do the job properly and neatly. Since it is a "residential"
homeowner job, maybe you can find a retired member of the sheet metal
workers union, or another skilled tradesworker.

Call (850) 224-4440?, the Florida Building & Construction Trades
Council, for a local union number. The business agent should be able to
send you someone skilled.

I had a retiree come by, measure, and make in his home shop some copper
window box liners.

Yeah, sure.

I hate sheet metal work
 

"Loogypicker" wrote in message
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On Jul 4, 3:14 pm, HK wrote:
Frogwatch wrote:
Trying to put the sheet metal roof on my camper. It has to be cut to
size with tin snips giving edges that could take your arm off. The
sabre saw does an even worse job. It'll be ok in the end but I hate
this stuff.
Boat building was much more fun..

Stop whining: find someone who knows how to handle sheet metal, and has
the tools to do the job properly and neatly. Since it is a "residential"
homeowner job, maybe you can find a retired member of the sheet metal
workers union, or another skilled tradesworker.

Call (850) 224-4440?, the Florida Building & Construction Trades
Council, for a local union number. The business agent should be able to
send you someone skilled.

I had a retiree come by, measure, and make in his home shop some copper
window box liners.

Yeah, sure.

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

He coulda said gold liners, and it would have been just as believable.

--Mike

I hate sheet metal work
 

"mgg" wrote in message
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"Loogypicker" wrote in message
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On Jul 4, 3:14 pm, HK wrote:
Frogwatch wrote:
Trying to put the sheet metal roof on my camper. It has to be cut to
size with tin snips giving edges that could take your arm off. The
sabre saw does an even worse job. It'll be ok in the end but I hate
this stuff.
Boat building was much more fun..

Stop whining: find someone who knows how to handle sheet metal, and has
the tools to do the job properly and neatly. Since it is a "residential"
homeowner job, maybe you can find a retired member of the sheet metal
workers union, or another skilled tradesworker.

Call (850) 224-4440?, the Florida Building & Construction Trades
Council, for a local union number. The business agent should be able to
send you someone skilled.

I had a retiree come by, measure, and make in his home shop some copper
window box liners.

Yeah, sure.

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

He coulda said gold liners, and it would have been just as believable.

--Mike


And undercutting the union plumber at that.