Yo Vic-
 

You ready to take it int he shorts?

Who needs Vaseline when you're going to get the barbed wire-wrapped-
around-the-broom handle treatment.


http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/l...,4274002.story

Yo Vic-
 

On Tue, 30 Jun 2009 21:14:19 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

You ready to take it int he shorts?

Who needs Vaseline when you're going to get the barbed wire-wrapped-
around-the-broom handle treatment.


http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/l...,4274002.story


What a mess. I think the biggest problem is those gold-plated
salaries and pension plans they're paying to state employees,
including college faculty.
That's the biggest danger of big gov, they vote themselves and their
cronies big money.
And the Dems want to borrow 2 billion instead of cutting spending or
raising taxes. WTF?
They should rely mostly on SS and 401k savings like just about
everybody else has to, and keep pensions within reason.
The Fed elected officials are probably worse.
They can print money.
Dead weight and featherbedders all over the place.
Hey, ever think about running for Congress?
Like winning the lottery if elected.
Thanks for getting me depressed. Don't you miss Blago?
Told ya. (-:

--Vic

Yo Vic-
 

Vic Smith wrote:
On Tue, 30 Jun 2009 21:14:19 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

You ready to take it int he shorts?

Who needs Vaseline when you're going to get the barbed wire-wrapped-
around-the-broom handle treatment.


http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/l...,4274002.story


What a mess. I think the biggest problem is those gold-plated
salaries and pension plans they're paying to state employees,
including college faculty.
That's the biggest danger of big gov, they vote themselves and their
cronies big money.
And the Dems want to borrow 2 billion instead of cutting spending or
raising taxes. WTF?
They should rely mostly on SS and 401k savings like just about
everybody else has to, and keep pensions within reason.
The Fed elected officials are probably worse.
They can print money.
Dead weight and featherbedders all over the place.
Hey, ever think about running for Congress?
Like winning the lottery if elected.
Thanks for getting me depressed. Don't you miss Blago?
Told ya. (-:

--Vic


After the recent debacle in the financial markets, and the obvious
demonstration that they are "run" by incompetents and just plain crooks,
why should anyone have to "rely mostly on ... 401k savings..." for their
retirement, based upon corporate stocks? In recent years, the stock
market has proved itself to be unreliable.

Yo Vic-
 

"HK" wrote in message
m...
Vic Smith wrote:
On Tue, 30 Jun 2009 21:14:19 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

You ready to take it int he shorts?

Who needs Vaseline when you're going to get the barbed wire-wrapped-
around-the-broom handle treatment.


http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/l...,4274002.story


What a mess. I think the biggest problem is those gold-plated
salaries and pension plans they're paying to state employees,
including college faculty. That's the biggest danger of big gov, they
vote themselves and their
cronies big money.
And the Dems want to borrow 2 billion instead of cutting spending or
raising taxes. WTF?
They should rely mostly on SS and 401k savings like just about
everybody else has to, and keep pensions within reason.
The Fed elected officials are probably worse. They can print money.
Dead weight and featherbedders all over the place.
Hey, ever think about running for Congress?
Like winning the lottery if elected.
Thanks for getting me depressed. Don't you miss Blago?
Told ya. (-:

--Vic


After the recent debacle in the financial markets, and the obvious
demonstration that they are "run" by incompetents and just plain crooks,
why should anyone have to "rely mostly on ... 401k savings..." for their
retirement, based upon corporate stocks? In recent years, the stock market
has proved itself to be unreliable.

Any decent 401k plan has more options than corporate stocks.

Yo Vic-
 

D.Duck wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
m...
Vic Smith wrote:
On Tue, 30 Jun 2009 21:14:19 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

You ready to take it int he shorts?

Who needs Vaseline when you're going to get the barbed wire-wrapped-
around-the-broom handle treatment.


http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/l...,4274002.story

What a mess. I think the biggest problem is those gold-plated
salaries and pension plans they're paying to state employees,
including college faculty. That's the biggest danger of big gov, they
vote themselves and their
cronies big money.
And the Dems want to borrow 2 billion instead of cutting spending or
raising taxes. WTF?
They should rely mostly on SS and 401k savings like just about
everybody else has to, and keep pensions within reason.
The Fed elected officials are probably worse. They can print money.
Dead weight and featherbedders all over the place.
Hey, ever think about running for Congress?
Like winning the lottery if elected.
Thanks for getting me depressed. Don't you miss Blago?
Told ya. (-:

--Vic

After the recent debacle in the financial markets, and the obvious
demonstration that they are "run" by incompetents and just plain crooks,
why should anyone have to "rely mostly on ... 401k savings..." for their
retirement, based upon corporate stocks? In recent years, the stock market
has proved itself to be unreliable.

Any decent 401k plan has more options than corporate stocks.



Indeed, but "investments" based upon shares predominate.
Why these days should one trust retail mutual funds, mutual fund
windows, institutional mutual funds, company stock, or, in fact, much of
anything to do with funds based upon shares?

Money market funds? Maybe.

Yo Vic-
 

On Tue, 30 Jun 2009 21:14:19 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

You ready to take it int he shorts?

Who needs Vaseline when you're going to get the barbed wire-wrapped-
around-the-broom handle treatment.


http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/l...,4274002.story

Hey - try living in CT.

We used to have medium security prison tustees cut the highway grass
and to the little things like trash pickup - saved a ton of money. Now
the DOT does it - to keep the Union drivers "busy".

Oh - even better. Used to be that the mowers and such used to work on
their own - put up signs, stay in the median and mow. Sides of the
highway, they used a pickup with a flash rack and directionals -
worked just fine - no accidents.

So now that we have a budget crisis and might have to lay off DOT
workers, they use their trucks - six of them - in a row - idling all
day - two workers per truck who sit and watch the mowers mow.

Supposedly improved "safety".

Yeah, right.

Yo Vic-
 

HK wrote:
D.Duck wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
m...
Vic Smith wrote:
On Tue, 30 Jun 2009 21:14:19 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

You ready to take it int he shorts?

Who needs Vaseline when you're going to get the barbed wire-wrapped-
around-the-broom handle treatment.


http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/l...,4274002.story


What a mess. I think the biggest problem is those gold-plated
salaries and pension plans they're paying to state employees,
including college faculty. That's the biggest danger of big gov,
they vote themselves and their
cronies big money.
And the Dems want to borrow 2 billion instead of cutting spending or
raising taxes. WTF?
They should rely mostly on SS and 401k savings like just about
everybody else has to, and keep pensions within reason.
The Fed elected officials are probably worse. They can print money.
Dead weight and featherbedders all over the place.
Hey, ever think about running for Congress?
Like winning the lottery if elected.
Thanks for getting me depressed. Don't you miss Blago?
Told ya. (-:

--Vic

After the recent debacle in the financial markets, and the obvious
demonstration that they are "run" by incompetents and just plain
crooks, why should anyone have to "rely mostly on ... 401k
savings..." for their retirement, based upon corporate stocks? In
recent years, the stock market has proved itself to be unreliable.

Any decent 401k plan has more options than corporate stocks.


Indeed, but "investments" based upon shares predominate.
Why these days should one trust retail mutual funds, mutual fund
windows, institutional mutual funds, company stock, or, in fact, much of
anything to do with funds based upon shares?

Money market funds? Maybe.

LOL, the more you talk about finances, the more it is obvious how little
you know.

Tell us how you got out of the stock market and invested your money into
real estate. That must have hurt when the real estate market tanked.

--
Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq.

This Newsgroup post is a natural product. The slight variations in
spelling and grammar enhance its individual character and beauty and in
no way are to be considered flaws or defects

Yo Vic-
 

On Wed, 01 Jul 2009 08:46:50 -0400, Just Regigie
wrote:

Tell us how you got out of the stock market and invested your money into
real estate. That must have hurt when the real estate market tanked.

Reg my friend, Harry's financial and economic knowledge just about
matches his skill with science and math.

Zero.

Yo Vic-
 

Zombie of Woodstock wrote:
On Wed, 01 Jul 2009 08:46:50 -0400, Just Regigie
wrote:

Tell us how you got out of the stock market and invested your money into
real estate. That must have hurt when the real estate market tanked.

Reg my friend, Harry's financial and economic knowledge just about
matches his skill with science and math.

Zero.


D'uh. I see Mr. Certainty has returned, after a gentle prod from Reggie
Piece of ****.

Please tell us again, Mr. Certainty, about your knowledge of the product
line of Husqvarna tractors, the wisdom of buying a boat with a 20"
transom so you can fit a 25" shaft outboard to it, and, of course, how
your etecs provide a miles per gallon result that defies various laws of
physics.

Yo Vic-
 

So now that we have a budget crisis and might have to lay off DOT
workers, they use their trucks - six of them - in a row - idling all
day - two workers per truck who sit and watch the mowers mow. "

Ah the old joke stands true.

What's big, orange, and sleeps three?


A state highway truck.

Yo Vic-
 

Tim wrote:
So now that we have a budget crisis and might have to lay off DOT
workers, they use their trucks - six of them - in a row - idling all
day - two workers per truck who sit and watch the mowers mow. "

Ah the old joke stands true.

What's big, orange, and sleeps three?


A state highway truck.



What wears a suit, a tie, and robs you blind?

Your white collar brokerage house representative.

Yo Vic-
 

On Jul 1, 9:21*am, HK wrote:
Tim wrote:
So now that we have a budget crisis and might have to lay off DOT
workers, they use their trucks - six of them - in a row - idling all
day - two workers per truck who sit and watch the mowers mow. "

Ah the old joke stands true.

What's big, orange, and sleeps three?

A state highway truck.

What wears a suit, a tie, and robs you blind?

Your white collar brokerage house representative.

My broker is fee only. No commission.

Yo Vic-
 

"Vic Smith" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 30 Jun 2009 21:14:19 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

You ready to take it int he shorts?

Who needs Vaseline when you're going to get the barbed wire-wrapped-
around-the-broom handle treatment.


http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/l...,4274002.story


What a mess. I think the biggest problem is those gold-plated
salaries and pension plans they're paying to state employees,
including college faculty.
That's the biggest danger of big gov, they vote themselves and their
cronies big money.
And the Dems want to borrow 2 billion instead of cutting spending or
raising taxes. WTF?
They should rely mostly on SS and 401k savings like just about
everybody else has to, and keep pensions within reason.
The Fed elected officials are probably worse.
They can print money.
Dead weight and featherbedders all over the place.
Hey, ever think about running for Congress?
Like winning the lottery if elected.
Thanks for getting me depressed. Don't you miss Blago?
Told ya. (-:

--Vic

Around heree, if a provincial MLA or a Federal MP can serve 6 years, they
get a generous pension plan.
They sure do take good care of themselves.

Yo Vic-
 

Don White wrote:
"Vic Smith" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 30 Jun 2009 21:14:19 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

You ready to take it int he shorts?

Who needs Vaseline when you're going to get the barbed wire-wrapped-
around-the-broom handle treatment.


http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/l...,4274002.story

What a mess. I think the biggest problem is those gold-plated
salaries and pension plans they're paying to state employees,
including college faculty.
That's the biggest danger of big gov, they vote themselves and their
cronies big money.
And the Dems want to borrow 2 billion instead of cutting spending or
raising taxes. WTF?
They should rely mostly on SS and 401k savings like just about
everybody else has to, and keep pensions within reason.
The Fed elected officials are probably worse.
They can print money.
Dead weight and featherbedders all over the place.
Hey, ever think about running for Congress?
Like winning the lottery if elected.
Thanks for getting me depressed. Don't you miss Blago?
Told ya. (-:

--Vic

Around heree, if a provincial MLA or a Federal MP can serve 6 years, they
get a generous pension plan.
They sure do take good care of themselves.




I chuckle when I read how "outraged" some are regarding the pitiful
pensions paid to most public employees. Where was the outrage when the
bankers, insurance execs, and wall streeters were taking home millions
of dollars while defrauding their investors?

Yo Vic-
 

"HK" wrote in message
m...
Don White wrote:
"Vic Smith" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 30 Jun 2009 21:14:19 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

You ready to take it int he shorts?

Who needs Vaseline when you're going to get the barbed wire-wrapped-
around-the-broom handle treatment.


http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/l...,4274002.story

What a mess. I think the biggest problem is those gold-plated
salaries and pension plans they're paying to state employees,
including college faculty.
That's the biggest danger of big gov, they vote themselves and their
cronies big money.
And the Dems want to borrow 2 billion instead of cutting spending or
raising taxes. WTF?
They should rely mostly on SS and 401k savings like just about
everybody else has to, and keep pensions within reason.
The Fed elected officials are probably worse.
They can print money.
Dead weight and featherbedders all over the place.
Hey, ever think about running for Congress?
Like winning the lottery if elected.
Thanks for getting me depressed. Don't you miss Blago?
Told ya. (-:

--Vic

Around heree, if a provincial MLA or a Federal MP can serve 6 years, they
get a generous pension plan.
They sure do take good care of themselves.


I chuckle when I read how "outraged" some are regarding the pitiful
pensions paid to most public employees. Where was the outrage when the
bankers, insurance execs, and wall streeters were taking home millions of
dollars while defrauding their investors?

I'm hoping the general attitude towards working people in this group isn't
indicative of the American people as a whole.

Yo Vic-
 

Don White wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
m...
Don White wrote:
"Vic Smith" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 30 Jun 2009 21:14:19 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

You ready to take it int he shorts?

Who needs Vaseline when you're going to get the barbed wire-wrapped-
around-the-broom handle treatment.


http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/l...,4274002.story
What a mess. I think the biggest problem is those gold-plated
salaries and pension plans they're paying to state employees,
including college faculty.
That's the biggest danger of big gov, they vote themselves and their
cronies big money.
And the Dems want to borrow 2 billion instead of cutting spending or
raising taxes. WTF?
They should rely mostly on SS and 401k savings like just about
everybody else has to, and keep pensions within reason.
The Fed elected officials are probably worse.
They can print money.
Dead weight and featherbedders all over the place.
Hey, ever think about running for Congress?
Like winning the lottery if elected.
Thanks for getting me depressed. Don't you miss Blago?
Told ya. (-:

--Vic
Around heree, if a provincial MLA or a Federal MP can serve 6 years, they
get a generous pension plan.
They sure do take good care of themselves.

I chuckle when I read how "outraged" some are regarding the pitiful
pensions paid to most public employees. Where was the outrage when the
bankers, insurance execs, and wall streeters were taking home millions of
dollars while defrauding their investors?

I'm hoping the general attitude towards working people in this group isn't
indicative of the American people as a whole.



Americans are damned peculiar. Thanks to the wages their unionized
parents earned, a number of next-gen Americans have been able to break
loose from their blue collar origins. Now, they are anti-union, not that
most of them know dip about unions. It's sorta comical.

Yo Vic-
 

On Wed, 01 Jul 2009 06:16:07 -0400, HK wrote:

Vic Smith wrote:
On Tue, 30 Jun 2009 21:14:19 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

You ready to take it int he shorts?

Who needs Vaseline when you're going to get the barbed wire-wrapped-
around-the-broom handle treatment.


http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/l...,4274002.story


What a mess. I think the biggest problem is those gold-plated
salaries and pension plans they're paying to state employees,
including college faculty.
That's the biggest danger of big gov, they vote themselves and their
cronies big money.
And the Dems want to borrow 2 billion instead of cutting spending or
raising taxes. WTF?
They should rely mostly on SS and 401k savings like just about
everybody else has to, and keep pensions within reason.
The Fed elected officials are probably worse.
They can print money.
Dead weight and featherbedders all over the place.
Hey, ever think about running for Congress?
Like winning the lottery if elected.
Thanks for getting me depressed. Don't you miss Blago?
Told ya. (-:

--Vic


After the recent debacle in the financial markets, and the obvious
demonstration that they are "run" by incompetents and just plain crooks,
why should anyone have to "rely mostly on ... 401k savings..." for their
retirement, based upon corporate stocks? In recent years, the stock
market has proved itself to be unreliable.

Uh, I piled up a lot of money saving into my 401k and I didn't touch
stocks. Always money market. The tax sheltering encourages savings.
The feds guaranteed a bottom on money markets else it all would have
fallen apart.
The biggest problem with the 401k system is that the money markets are
non-competitive. Wall Streets like it that way.
When I could pull my money out of that 401k I tripled my return by
rolling it into IRA CD's on the open market.
FDIC guaranteed.
Equities are a gamble, and always have been.

--Vic

Yo Vic-
 

On Wed, 1 Jul 2009 11:07:05 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:


"Vic Smith" wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 30 Jun 2009 21:14:19 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

You ready to take it int he shorts?

Who needs Vaseline when you're going to get the barbed wire-wrapped-
around-the-broom handle treatment.


http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/l...,4274002.story


What a mess. I think the biggest problem is those gold-plated
salaries and pension plans they're paying to state employees,
including college faculty.
That's the biggest danger of big gov, they vote themselves and their
cronies big money.
And the Dems want to borrow 2 billion instead of cutting spending or
raising taxes. WTF?
They should rely mostly on SS and 401k savings like just about
everybody else has to, and keep pensions within reason.
The Fed elected officials are probably worse.
They can print money.
Dead weight and featherbedders all over the place.
Hey, ever think about running for Congress?
Like winning the lottery if elected.
Thanks for getting me depressed. Don't you miss Blago?
Told ya. (-:

--Vic

Around heree, if a provincial MLA or a Federal MP can serve 6 years, they
get a generous pension plan.
They sure do take good care of themselves.

Yep, and if those pension plan investments don't work out, unlike with
just about everybody else who would take a loss for the failure of
their investments, I suppose the gov can just raise taxes to keep the
pension at what was projected.
Don't know that's how it works, just guessing.
OTOH, I'm due a chunk of change from my company's traditional pension
when I hit 65.
Since I retired 3 years ago the value of that has dropped @$30k.
Can I raise taxes to make up the difference?
hehe.

--Vic

Yo Vic-
 

On Wed, 01 Jul 2009 10:13:39 -0400, HK wrote:

Don White wrote:
"Vic Smith" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 30 Jun 2009 21:14:19 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

You ready to take it int he shorts?

Who needs Vaseline when you're going to get the barbed wire-wrapped-
around-the-broom handle treatment.


http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/l...,4274002.story

What a mess. I think the biggest problem is those gold-plated
salaries and pension plans they're paying to state employees,
including college faculty.
That's the biggest danger of big gov, they vote themselves and their
cronies big money.
And the Dems want to borrow 2 billion instead of cutting spending or
raising taxes. WTF?
They should rely mostly on SS and 401k savings like just about
everybody else has to, and keep pensions within reason.
The Fed elected officials are probably worse.
They can print money.
Dead weight and featherbedders all over the place.
Hey, ever think about running for Congress?
Like winning the lottery if elected.
Thanks for getting me depressed. Don't you miss Blago?
Told ya. (-:

--Vic

Around heree, if a provincial MLA or a Federal MP can serve 6 years, they
get a generous pension plan.
They sure do take good care of themselves.




I chuckle when I read how "outraged" some are regarding the pitiful
pensions paid to most public employees. Where was the outrage when the
bankers, insurance execs, and wall streeters were taking home millions
of dollars while defrauding their investors?

I can't begin to tell you ****ed off I am at what the crooks are
getting.
But that never kept me from making financial sense for myself.
Worst thing that ever happened to this country was letting Wall Street
into everybody's pocket via 401k payroll deductions.
And making them think their future was guaranteed by Wall Street, so
they didn't have to worry about living within their means and saving
for their retirement to supplement SS.
What a ****ing con job.

--Vic

Yo Vic-
 

Vic Smith wrote:
On Wed, 01 Jul 2009 06:16:07 -0400, HK wrote:

Vic Smith wrote:
On Tue, 30 Jun 2009 21:14:19 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

You ready to take it int he shorts?

Who needs Vaseline when you're going to get the barbed wire-wrapped-
around-the-broom handle treatment.


http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/l...,4274002.story

What a mess. I think the biggest problem is those gold-plated
salaries and pension plans they're paying to state employees,
including college faculty.
That's the biggest danger of big gov, they vote themselves and their
cronies big money.
And the Dems want to borrow 2 billion instead of cutting spending or
raising taxes. WTF?
They should rely mostly on SS and 401k savings like just about
everybody else has to, and keep pensions within reason.
The Fed elected officials are probably worse.
They can print money.
Dead weight and featherbedders all over the place.
Hey, ever think about running for Congress?
Like winning the lottery if elected.
Thanks for getting me depressed. Don't you miss Blago?
Told ya. (-:

--Vic

After the recent debacle in the financial markets, and the obvious
demonstration that they are "run" by incompetents and just plain crooks,
why should anyone have to "rely mostly on ... 401k savings..." for their
retirement, based upon corporate stocks? In recent years, the stock
market has proved itself to be unreliable.

Uh, I piled up a lot of money saving into my 401k and I didn't touch
stocks. Always money market. The tax sheltering encourages savings.
The feds guaranteed a bottom on money markets else it all would have
fallen apart.
The biggest problem with the 401k system is that the money markets are
non-competitive. Wall Streets like it that way.
When I could pull my money out of that 401k I tripled my return by
rolling it into IRA CD's on the open market.
FDIC guaranteed.
Equities are a gamble, and always have been.

--Vic


The money market rates available through 401(k)'s are far less than
impressive, and as you point out, don't approach those available via
insured CD's. Part of the problem here is that the employer or someone
contracted by the employer pretty much picks what
instruments/funds/money market funds are available for the choosing.

Too many Americans did not and still do not realize what a gamble
equities are, especially these days.

Yo Vic-
 

Vic Smith wrote:
On Wed, 01 Jul 2009 10:13:39 -0400, HK wrote:

Don White wrote:
"Vic Smith" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 30 Jun 2009 21:14:19 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

You ready to take it int he shorts?

Who needs Vaseline when you're going to get the barbed wire-wrapped-
around-the-broom handle treatment.


http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/l...,4274002.story
What a mess. I think the biggest problem is those gold-plated
salaries and pension plans they're paying to state employees,
including college faculty.
That's the biggest danger of big gov, they vote themselves and their
cronies big money.
And the Dems want to borrow 2 billion instead of cutting spending or
raising taxes. WTF?
They should rely mostly on SS and 401k savings like just about
everybody else has to, and keep pensions within reason.
The Fed elected officials are probably worse.
They can print money.
Dead weight and featherbedders all over the place.
Hey, ever think about running for Congress?
Like winning the lottery if elected.
Thanks for getting me depressed. Don't you miss Blago?
Told ya. (-:

--Vic
Around heree, if a provincial MLA or a Federal MP can serve 6 years, they
get a generous pension plan.
They sure do take good care of themselves.



I chuckle when I read how "outraged" some are regarding the pitiful
pensions paid to most public employees. Where was the outrage when the
bankers, insurance execs, and wall streeters were taking home millions
of dollars while defrauding their investors?

I can't begin to tell you ****ed off I am at what the crooks are
getting.
But that never kept me from making financial sense for myself.
Worst thing that ever happened to this country was letting Wall Street
into everybody's pocket via 401k payroll deductions.
And making them think their future was guaranteed by Wall Street, so
they didn't have to worry about living within their means and saving
for their retirement to supplement SS.
What a ****ing con job.

--Vic


That part of my retirement covered by a *real* pension is covered by a
fixed benefit union pension, and the guys running it are smart enough to
have always managed a rate of return on investments higher than the
outflow. They even did this last year, and are doing it this year, too.
I know a lot of fixed benefit pensions are struggling right now to earn
8% so they don't have to dip into the gold.

We have no unfunded liabilities, either.

Yo Vic-
 

On Jul 1, 10:32*am, "Don White" wrote:
"HK" wrote in message

m...





Don White wrote:
"Vic Smith" wrote in message
. ..
On Tue, 30 Jun 2009 21:14:19 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

You ready to take it int he shorts?

Who needs Vaseline when you're going to get the barbed wire-wrapped-
around-the-broom handle treatment.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/l...overtime01jul0....

What a mess. *I think the biggest problem is those gold-plated
salaries and pension plans they're paying to state employees,
including college faculty.
That's the biggest danger of big gov, they vote themselves and their
cronies big money.
And the Dems want to borrow 2 billion instead of cutting spending or
raising taxes. *WTF?
They should rely mostly on SS and 401k savings like just about
everybody else has to, and keep pensions within reason.
The Fed elected officials are probably worse.
They can print money.
Dead weight and featherbedders all over the place.
Hey, ever think about running for Congress?
Like winning the lottery if elected.
Thanks for getting me depressed. *Don't you miss Blago?
Told ya. (-:

--Vic

Around heree, if a provincial MLA or a Federal MP can serve 6 years, they
get a generous pension plan.
They sure do take good care of themselves.

I chuckle when I read how "outraged" some are regarding the pitiful
pensions paid to most public employees. Where was the outrage when the
bankers, insurance execs, and wall streeters were taking home millions of
dollars while defrauding their investors?

I'm hoping the general attitude towards working people in this group isn't
indicative of the American people as a whole.- Hide quoted text -

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I totally agree! Harry has gone around here for YEARS knocking hard
working people such as ditch diggers, **** pumpers, loggers, etc.

Yo Vic-
 

"HK" wrote in message
m...
Vic Smith wrote:
On Wed, 01 Jul 2009 10:13:39 -0400, HK wrote:

Don White wrote:
"Vic Smith" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 30 Jun 2009 21:14:19 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

You ready to take it int he shorts?

Who needs Vaseline when you're going to get the barbed wire-wrapped-
around-the-broom handle treatment.


http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/l...,4274002.story
What a mess. I think the biggest problem is those gold-plated
salaries and pension plans they're paying to state employees,
including college faculty.
That's the biggest danger of big gov, they vote themselves and their
cronies big money.
And the Dems want to borrow 2 billion instead of cutting spending or
raising taxes. WTF?
They should rely mostly on SS and 401k savings like just about
everybody else has to, and keep pensions within reason.
The Fed elected officials are probably worse.
They can print money.
Dead weight and featherbedders all over the place.
Hey, ever think about running for Congress?
Like winning the lottery if elected.
Thanks for getting me depressed. Don't you miss Blago?
Told ya. (-:

--Vic
Around heree, if a provincial MLA or a Federal MP can serve 6 years,
they get a generous pension plan.
They sure do take good care of themselves.


I chuckle when I read how "outraged" some are regarding the pitiful
pensions paid to most public employees. Where was the outrage when the
bankers, insurance execs, and wall streeters were taking home millions
of dollars while defrauding their investors?

I can't begin to tell you ****ed off I am at what the crooks are
getting.
But that never kept me from making financial sense for myself.
Worst thing that ever happened to this country was letting Wall Street
into everybody's pocket via 401k payroll deductions.
And making them think their future was guaranteed by Wall Street, so
they didn't have to worry about living within their means and saving
for their retirement to supplement SS.
What a ****ing con job.

--Vic


That part of my retirement covered by a *real* pension is covered by a
fixed benefit union pension, and the guys running it are smart enough to
have always managed a rate of return on investments higher than the
outflow. They even did this last year, and are doing it this year, too.
I know a lot of fixed benefit pensions are struggling right now to earn 8%
so they don't have to dip into the gold.

We have no unfunded liabilities, either.

Our pension people claim that ours is one of the top ten in the country.
Hope it keeps up.....or I might have to join Looney in the 'recreational
products' industry.

Yo Vic-
 

Don White wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
m...
Vic Smith wrote:
On Wed, 01 Jul 2009 10:13:39 -0400, HK wrote:

Don White wrote:
"Vic Smith" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 30 Jun 2009 21:14:19 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

You ready to take it int he shorts?

Who needs Vaseline when you're going to get the barbed wire-wrapped-
around-the-broom handle treatment.


http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/l...,4274002.story
What a mess. I think the biggest problem is those gold-plated
salaries and pension plans they're paying to state employees,
including college faculty.
That's the biggest danger of big gov, they vote themselves and their
cronies big money.
And the Dems want to borrow 2 billion instead of cutting spending or
raising taxes. WTF?
They should rely mostly on SS and 401k savings like just about
everybody else has to, and keep pensions within reason.
The Fed elected officials are probably worse.
They can print money.
Dead weight and featherbedders all over the place.
Hey, ever think about running for Congress?
Like winning the lottery if elected.
Thanks for getting me depressed. Don't you miss Blago?
Told ya. (-:

--Vic
Around heree, if a provincial MLA or a Federal MP can serve 6 years,
they get a generous pension plan.
They sure do take good care of themselves.

I chuckle when I read how "outraged" some are regarding the pitiful
pensions paid to most public employees. Where was the outrage when the
bankers, insurance execs, and wall streeters were taking home millions
of dollars while defrauding their investors?
I can't begin to tell you ****ed off I am at what the crooks are
getting.
But that never kept me from making financial sense for myself.
Worst thing that ever happened to this country was letting Wall Street
into everybody's pocket via 401k payroll deductions.
And making them think their future was guaranteed by Wall Street, so
they didn't have to worry about living within their means and saving
for their retirement to supplement SS.
What a ****ing con job.

--Vic

That part of my retirement covered by a *real* pension is covered by a
fixed benefit union pension, and the guys running it are smart enough to
have always managed a rate of return on investments higher than the
outflow. They even did this last year, and are doing it this year, too.
I know a lot of fixed benefit pensions are struggling right now to earn 8%
so they don't have to dip into the gold.

We have no unfunded liabilities, either.

Our pension people claim that ours is one of the top ten in the country.
Hope it keeps up.....or I might have to join Looney in the 'recreational
products' industry.



Loogy is an engineer...his day job is to run the lionel train set at the
daycare center.

Yo Vic-
 

"HK" wrote in message
...
Don White wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
m...
Vic Smith wrote:
On Wed, 01 Jul 2009 10:13:39 -0400, HK wrote:

Don White wrote:
"Vic Smith" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 30 Jun 2009 21:14:19 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

You ready to take it int he shorts?

Who needs Vaseline when you're going to get the barbed
wire-wrapped-
around-the-broom handle treatment.


http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/l...,4274002.story
What a mess. I think the biggest problem is those gold-plated
salaries and pension plans they're paying to state employees,
including college faculty.
That's the biggest danger of big gov, they vote themselves and their
cronies big money.
And the Dems want to borrow 2 billion instead of cutting spending or
raising taxes. WTF?
They should rely mostly on SS and 401k savings like just about
everybody else has to, and keep pensions within reason.
The Fed elected officials are probably worse.
They can print money.
Dead weight and featherbedders all over the place.
Hey, ever think about running for Congress?
Like winning the lottery if elected.
Thanks for getting me depressed. Don't you miss Blago?
Told ya. (-:

--Vic
Around heree, if a provincial MLA or a Federal MP can serve 6 years,
they get a generous pension plan.
They sure do take good care of themselves.

I chuckle when I read how "outraged" some are regarding the pitiful
pensions paid to most public employees. Where was the outrage when the
bankers, insurance execs, and wall streeters were taking home millions
of dollars while defrauding their investors?
I can't begin to tell you ****ed off I am at what the crooks are
getting.
But that never kept me from making financial sense for myself.
Worst thing that ever happened to this country was letting Wall Street
into everybody's pocket via 401k payroll deductions.
And making them think their future was guaranteed by Wall Street, so
they didn't have to worry about living within their means and saving
for their retirement to supplement SS.
What a ****ing con job.

--Vic

That part of my retirement covered by a *real* pension is covered by a
fixed benefit union pension, and the guys running it are smart enough to
have always managed a rate of return on investments higher than the
outflow. They even did this last year, and are doing it this year, too.
I know a lot of fixed benefit pensions are struggling right now to earn
8% so they don't have to dip into the gold.

We have no unfunded liabilities, either.

Our pension people claim that ours is one of the top ten in the country.
Hope it keeps up.....or I might have to join Looney in the 'recreational
products' industry.

Loogy is an engineer...his day job is to run the lionel train set at the
daycare center.

Honest work, I guess. I thought he spent all his time cultivating that
'special crop' hidden behind his house.

Yo Vic-
 

Don White wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
Don White wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
m...
Vic Smith wrote:
On Wed, 01 Jul 2009 10:13:39 -0400, HK wrote:

Don White wrote:
"Vic Smith" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 30 Jun 2009 21:14:19 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

You ready to take it int he shorts?

Who needs Vaseline when you're going to get the barbed
wire-wrapped-
around-the-broom handle treatment.


http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/l...,4274002.story
What a mess. I think the biggest problem is those gold-plated
salaries and pension plans they're paying to state employees,
including college faculty.
That's the biggest danger of big gov, they vote themselves and their
cronies big money.
And the Dems want to borrow 2 billion instead of cutting spending or
raising taxes. WTF?
They should rely mostly on SS and 401k savings like just about
everybody else has to, and keep pensions within reason.
The Fed elected officials are probably worse.
They can print money.
Dead weight and featherbedders all over the place.
Hey, ever think about running for Congress?
Like winning the lottery if elected.
Thanks for getting me depressed. Don't you miss Blago?
Told ya. (-:

--Vic
Around heree, if a provincial MLA or a Federal MP can serve 6 years,
they get a generous pension plan.
They sure do take good care of themselves.

I chuckle when I read how "outraged" some are regarding the pitiful
pensions paid to most public employees. Where was the outrage when the
bankers, insurance execs, and wall streeters were taking home millions
of dollars while defrauding their investors?
I can't begin to tell you ****ed off I am at what the crooks are
getting.
But that never kept me from making financial sense for myself.
Worst thing that ever happened to this country was letting Wall Street
into everybody's pocket via 401k payroll deductions.
And making them think their future was guaranteed by Wall Street, so
they didn't have to worry about living within their means and saving
for their retirement to supplement SS.
What a ****ing con job.

--Vic
That part of my retirement covered by a *real* pension is covered by a
fixed benefit union pension, and the guys running it are smart enough to
have always managed a rate of return on investments higher than the
outflow. They even did this last year, and are doing it this year, too.
I know a lot of fixed benefit pensions are struggling right now to earn
8% so they don't have to dip into the gold.

We have no unfunded liabilities, either.

Our pension people claim that ours is one of the top ten in the country.
Hope it keeps up.....or I might have to join Looney in the 'recreational
products' industry.
Loogy is an engineer...his day job is to run the lionel train set at the
daycare center.

Honest work, I guess. I thought he spent all his time cultivating that
'special crop' hidden behind his house.



He sells it at the schoolyard he passes.