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I am not trying to stir anything up by asking this question, but because the
water cooling passages are by design so narrow in the vicinity of the thermostat on my 1995 Merc 60hp 2-stroke Bigfoot, and small debris was constantly lodging itself on the waterpump/impeller side of the thermostat I decided to just run without it. I have been doing it for two seasons now. I measured the water temperature at the powerhead with a laser unit at about 90 degrees. I am getting ready to advise that my neighbor do the same thing and I just wanted to hear some comments first. What will it hurt? Mike |
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![]() "Mike Slater" wrote in message news:way2m.764901$yE1.593293@attbi_s21... I am not trying to stir anything up by asking this question, but because the water cooling passages are by design so narrow in the vicinity of the thermostat on my 1995 Merc 60hp 2-stroke Bigfoot, and small debris was constantly lodging itself on the waterpump/impeller side of the thermostat I decided to just run without it. I have been doing it for two seasons now. I measured the water temperature at the powerhead with a laser unit at about 90 degrees. I am getting ready to advise that my neighbor do the same thing and I just wanted to hear some comments first. What will it hurt? Mike Running without a thermostat can cause air to get in the fuel lines. Just kidding. |
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On Jun 30, 7:34*pm, "Mike Slater" wrote:
I am not trying to stir anything up by asking this question, but because the water cooling passages are by design so narrow in the vicinity of the thermostat on my 1995 Merc 60hp 2-stroke Bigfoot, and small debris was constantly lodging itself on the waterpump/impeller side of the thermostat I decided to just run without it. *I have been doing it for two seasons now. I measured the water temperature at the powerhead with a laser unit at about 90 degrees. *I am getting ready to advise that my neighbor do the same thing and I just wanted to hear some comments first. *What will it hurt? Mike Probably not, but one thing that you need to remember mike, is that the engine does have a recomended operating temperature. and the thermostat helps hold the water int he engine jacket so that the proper temp can be achieved. And by running without the thermostat, it can actually change your performance. also without it, you could have a cyl or so running actually too warm and others too cold. or one side of the engine running hotter than the other thusly doing wierd things to the cylinder bore over time. Not counting getting all that muck lodged up into the cylinder jacket. I dont' know. it might not hurt or change a thing, but it was put there for a reason. Maybe the thermostat is better at use when running in extremely cold temps. |
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![]() "Eisboch" wrote in message ... "Mike Slater" wrote in message news:way2m.764901$yE1.593293@attbi_s21... I am not trying to stir anything up by asking this question, but because the water cooling passages are by design so narrow in the vicinity of the thermostat on my 1995 Merc 60hp 2-stroke Bigfoot, and small debris was constantly lodging itself on the waterpump/impeller side of the thermostat I decided to just run without it. I have been doing it for two seasons now. I measured the water temperature at the powerhead with a laser unit at about 90 degrees. I am getting ready to advise that my neighbor do the same thing and I just wanted to hear some comments first. What will it hurt? Mike Running without a thermostat can cause air to get in the fuel lines. Just kidding. GOOD ONE! I actually paused for half a sec and thought.... "what?... how?" Dont do that! |
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On Wed, 01 Jul 2009 00:34:36 GMT, "Mike Slater"
wrote: I am not trying to stir anything up by asking this question, but because the water cooling passages are by design so narrow in the vicinity of the thermostat on my 1995 Merc 60hp 2-stroke Bigfoot, and small debris was constantly lodging itself on the waterpump/impeller side of the thermostat I decided to just run without it. I have been doing it for two seasons now. I measured the water temperature at the powerhead with a laser unit at about 90 degrees. I am getting ready to advise that my neighbor do the same thing and I just wanted to hear some comments first. What will it hurt? Mike Will certainly take longer to (or never) reach proper operating temperature. Won't burn fuel as efficiently, that's for sure. |
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![]() "Gene" wrote in message ... On Wed, 01 Jul 2009 00:34:36 GMT, "Mike Slater" wrote: I am not trying to stir anything up by asking this question, but because the water cooling passages are by design so narrow in the vicinity of the thermostat on my 1995 Merc 60hp 2-stroke Bigfoot, and small debris was constantly lodging itself on the waterpump/impeller side of the thermostat I decided to just run without it. I have been doing it for two seasons now. I measured the water temperature at the powerhead with a laser unit at about 90 degrees. I am getting ready to advise that my neighbor do the same thing and I just wanted to hear some comments first. What will it hurt? Mike Ask yourself: why is there a thermostat, anyway? -- I have been working on engines for 30+ years and I know what purpose nearly every part was designed to serve. Your response was basically worthless. But thanks for trying to stimulate my brain. |
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On Wed, 01 Jul 2009 00:34:36 GMT, "Mike Slater"
wrote: I am not trying to stir anything up by asking this question, but because the water cooling passages are by design so narrow in the vicinity of the thermostat on my 1995 Merc 60hp 2-stroke Bigfoot, and small debris was constantly lodging itself on the waterpump/impeller side of the thermostat I decided to just run without it. I have been doing it for two seasons now. I measured the water temperature at the powerhead with a laser unit at about 90 degrees. I am getting ready to advise that my neighbor do the same thing and I just wanted to hear some comments first. What will it hurt? The thermostat is there to maintain the engine at its designed operating temperature. By running it cooler you may be sacrificing some performance and fuel economy, but even worse, you may be increasing engine wear and shortening its life. |
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On Tue, 30 Jun 2009 23:16:21 -0400, Gene
wrote: On Wed, 01 Jul 2009 03:06:30 GMT, "Mike Slater" wrote: "Gene" wrote in message . .. On Wed, 01 Jul 2009 00:34:36 GMT, "Mike Slater" wrote: I am not trying to stir anything up by asking this question, but because the water cooling passages are by design so narrow in the vicinity of the thermostat on my 1995 Merc 60hp 2-stroke Bigfoot, and small debris was constantly lodging itself on the waterpump/impeller side of the thermostat I decided to just run without it. I have been doing it for two seasons now. I measured the water temperature at the powerhead with a laser unit at about 90 degrees. I am getting ready to advise that my neighbor do the same thing and I just wanted to hear some comments first. What will it hurt? Mike Ask yourself: why is there a thermostat, anyway? -- I have been working on engines for 30+ years and I know what purpose nearly every part was designed to serve. Your response was basically worthless. But thanks for trying to stimulate my brain. OK. A properly functioning thermostat sets the minimum operating temperature for an engine. Warming an engine quickly to the optimum temperature and holding it there reduces engine wear, deposits, emissions, and improves fuel mileage. You are doing yourself or your engine no favor by running without a thermostat. Might also have some impact on cooling system corrosion/erosion and pump wear. That thermostat, even when open, is quite a restriction to coolant flow. Not sure if that is a design consideration. --Vic |
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On Jun 30, 10:36*pm, Gene wrote:
On Wed, 01 Jul 2009 00:34:36 GMT, "Mike Slater" wrote: I am not trying to stir anything up by asking this question, but because the water cooling passages are by design so narrow in the vicinity of the thermostat on my 1995 Merc 60hp 2-stroke Bigfoot, and small debris was constantly lodging itself on the waterpump/impeller side of the thermostat I decided to just run without it. *I have been doing it for two seasons now. I measured the water temperature at the powerhead with a laser unit at about 90 degrees. *I am getting ready to advise that my neighbor do the same thing and I just wanted to hear some comments first. *What will it hurt? Mike Ask yourself: why is there a thermostat, anyway? -- How zen like! |
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On Jul 1, 9:41*am, Gene wrote:
On Wed, 1 Jul 2009 05:09:30 -0700 (PDT), Loogypicker wrote: On Jun 30, 10:36*pm, Gene wrote: On Wed, 01 Jul 2009 00:34:36 GMT, "Mike Slater" wrote: I am not trying to stir anything up by asking this question, but because the water cooling passages are by design so narrow in the vicinity of the thermostat on my 1995 Merc 60hp 2-stroke Bigfoot, and small debris was constantly lodging itself on the waterpump/impeller side of the thermostat I decided to just run without it. *I have been doing it for two seasons now. I measured the water temperature at the powerhead with a laser unit at about 90 degrees. *I am getting ready to advise that my neighbor do the same thing and I just wanted to hear some comments first. *What will it hurt? Mike Ask yourself: why is there a thermostat, anyway? -- How zen like! Yes, grasshopper..... what is the sound of one thermostat missing? -- The sound of four cylinders operating at an incorrect temperature, master! |
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