On Sun, 21 Jun 2009 20:15:06 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:


that looks like a serious dose of the clap, you got there Tom. Too
much exposure to salt in a tight spot.

Don't think so - if that were the case, the entire system would be
compromised like this and it's pretty clean up the tube to the brake
actuator - just a dirt.

What I think happened is that the solenoid let go - that's basically
brake fluid corrosion. This has been leaking for sometime - that's
what I'm thinking. I have had to add brake fluid over the years, but
it's a pretty open system so evaporation I figured - apparently not.

No indication it was leaking either until it let go.

On my trailer (23' Marquis) it's all exposed and so it has less means
of build up.

The pic of the brake line looks evil too. and it might be a lot of fun
trying to bleed the brakes with them baptized in brine as well.

I've seen that on an old Escort I had that had a brake line release.
Corrosive stuff brake fluid.

Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Sun, 21 Jun 2009 20:15:06 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

that looks like a serious dose of the clap, you got there Tom. Too
much exposure to salt in a tight spot.

Don't think so - if that were the case, the entire system would be
compromised like this and it's pretty clean up the tube to the brake
actuator - just a dirt.

What I think happened is that the solenoid let go - that's basically
brake fluid corrosion. This has been leaking for sometime - that's
what I'm thinking. I have had to add brake fluid over the years, but
it's a pretty open system so evaporation I figured - apparently not.

No indication it was leaking either until it let go.

On my trailer (23' Marquis) it's all exposed and so it has less means
of build up.

The pic of the brake line looks evil too. and it might be a lot of fun
trying to bleed the brakes with them baptized in brine as well.

I've seen that on an old Escort I had that had a brake line release.
Corrosive stuff brake fluid.

Unless I'm dreaming, I seem to remember reading about a non hygroscopic
synthetic brake fluid. You might consider using it after you replace all
of your brake lines and rebuild, if possible, the calipers and master
cylinder. The solenoid appears to have a steel cover. Can you find one
that doesn't have a ferrous metal cover?
Champions Trailer Parts and Dexter Axle are two good sources of
information on trailers. They both have web sites.

On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 06:38:45 -0400, Jim24242
wrote:

Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Sun, 21 Jun 2009 20:15:06 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

that looks like a serious dose of the clap, you got there Tom. Too
much exposure to salt in a tight spot.

Don't think so - if that were the case, the entire system would be
compromised like this and it's pretty clean up the tube to the brake
actuator - just a dirt.

What I think happened is that the solenoid let go - that's basically
brake fluid corrosion. This has been leaking for sometime - that's
what I'm thinking. I have had to add brake fluid over the years, but
it's a pretty open system so evaporation I figured - apparently not.

No indication it was leaking either until it let go.

On my trailer (23' Marquis) it's all exposed and so it has less means
of build up.

The pic of the brake line looks evil too. and it might be a lot of fun
trying to bleed the brakes with them baptized in brine as well.

I've seen that on an old Escort I had that had a brake line release.
Corrosive stuff brake fluid.

Unless I'm dreaming, I seem to remember reading about a non hygroscopic
synthetic brake fluid.

Not recommended for this system. Apparently silicone based hydraulic
fluids have a tendency to cause aeration in the fluid when forced
through small orifices as they have about 4 times the amount of air in
the fluid as standard glycol based fluids. I know they aren't
recommended for braking systems that use ABS.

You might consider using it after you replace all of your brake lines
and rebuild, if possible, the calipers and master cylinder.

I'm going to wing it with that - I just replaced the calipers, pads
and discs last year. The actuator seems fine - clean, no dirt or
grease - almost sterile. The brake lines from the solenoid back are
fine - no rust and the connectors are clean and disconnected very
easily. What I am thinking about doing is replacing all the steel
lines from the actuator to the solenoid and back again with rubber
brake hose. I'm going to completely remove the quick disconnect system
and just use rubber to connect to the trailer lines.

The solenoid appears to have a steel cover. Can you find one
that doesn't have a ferrous metal cover?

I don't know if that's possible. I'm heading up to Northeast
Industries this morning up in Dudley - they have Loadrite franchise
for this part of the world and talk to them about it. The lines I can
have made up at NAPA.

Champions Trailer Parts and Dexter Axle are two good sources of
information on trailers. They both have web sites.

I spent some time there last night while surfing around for
information - not sure they have what I need, but I'll look again.

On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 06:15:58 -0400, Wizard of Woodstock
wrote:

On Sun, 21 Jun 2009 20:15:06 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:


that looks like a serious dose of the clap, you got there Tom. Too
much exposure to salt in a tight spot.

Don't think so - if that were the case, the entire system would be
compromised like this and it's pretty clean up the tube to the brake
actuator - just a dirt.

What I think happened is that the solenoid let go - that's basically
brake fluid corrosion. This has been leaking for sometime - that's
what I'm thinking. I have had to add brake fluid over the years, but
it's a pretty open system so evaporation I figured - apparently not.

No indication it was leaking either until it let go.

On my trailer (23' Marquis) it's all exposed and so it has less means
of build up.

The pic of the brake line looks evil too. and it might be a lot of fun
trying to bleed the brakes with them baptized in brine as well.

I've seen that on an old Escort I had that had a brake line release.
Corrosive stuff brake fluid.

About every ten years or so, we need a little reminder like that just
to let us know we don't know everything...yet.

Glad it didn't let go at a worse time, like when everyone on the
freeway was coming to a panic stop for no friggin' reason whatsoever,
like they do on I-95 about every 35 miles or so.

Good luck with it, although I'm sure you'll not need luck to get it
fixed.
--

John H

On Jun 22, 5:15*am, Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Sun, 21 Jun 2009 20:15:06 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:



that looks like a serious dose of the clap, you got *there Tom. Too
much exposure to salt in a tight spot.

Don't think so - if that were the case, the entire system would be
compromised like this and it's pretty clean up the tube to the brake
actuator - just a dirt.

What I think happened is that the solenoid let go - that's basically
brake fluid corrosion. This has been leaking for sometime - that's
what I'm thinking. *I have had to add brake fluid over the years, but
it's a pretty open system so evaporation I figured - apparently not.

No indication it was leaking either until it let go.

On my trailer (23' Marquis) it's all exposed and so it has less means
of build up.

The pic of the brake line looks evil too. and it might be a lot of fun
trying to bleed the brakes with them baptized in brine as well.

I've seen that on an old Escort I had that had a brake line release.
Corrosive stuff brake fluid.

Well, I'm not one to dispute the Wizard, but I've sen many an old car
and/or truck that had a gazillion miles and years on them and no rust
on the cast iron brake reservoir.

I wonder what the difference is? something abotu the heat under the
engine compartment causing something not to rust and corroede?

On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 05:32:17 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Jun 22, 5:15*am, Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Sun, 21 Jun 2009 20:15:06 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:



that looks like a serious dose of the clap, you got *there Tom. Too
much exposure to salt in a tight spot.

Don't think so - if that were the case, the entire system would be
compromised like this and it's pretty clean up the tube to the brake
actuator - just a dirt.

What I think happened is that the solenoid let go - that's basically
brake fluid corrosion. This has been leaking for sometime - that's
what I'm thinking. *I have had to add brake fluid over the years, but
it's a pretty open system so evaporation I figured - apparently not.

No indication it was leaking either until it let go.

On my trailer (23' Marquis) it's all exposed and so it has less means
of build up.

The pic of the brake line looks evil too. and it might be a lot of fun
trying to bleed the brakes with them baptized in brine as well.

I've seen that on an old Escort I had that had a brake line release.
Corrosive stuff brake fluid.

Well, I'm not one to dispute the Wizard, but I've sen many an old car
and/or truck that had a gazillion miles and years on them and no rust
on the cast iron brake reservoir.

I wonder what the difference is? something abotu the heat under the
engine compartment causing something not to rust and corroede?

Got me, but that International L-110 I restored master cylinder was
clean (cast iron), but all the lines from it were toast.

Maybe it's the lines and not the cyliinder.

On Jun 22, 7:36*am, Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 05:32:17 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:



On Jun 22, 5:15*am, Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Sun, 21 Jun 2009 20:15:06 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

that looks like a serious dose of the clap, you got *there Tom. Too
much exposure to salt in a tight spot.

Don't think so - if that were the case, the entire system would be
compromised like this and it's pretty clean up the tube to the brake
actuator - just a dirt.

What I think happened is that the solenoid let go - that's basically
brake fluid corrosion. This has been leaking for sometime - that's
what I'm thinking. *I have had to add brake fluid over the years, but
it's a pretty open system so evaporation I figured - apparently not.

No indication it was leaking either until it let go.

On my trailer (23' Marquis) it's all exposed and so it has less means
of build up.

The pic of the brake line looks evil too. and it might be a lot of fun
trying to bleed the brakes with them baptized in brine as well.

I've seen that on an old Escort I had that had a brake line release.
Corrosive stuff brake fluid.

Well, I'm not one to dispute the Wizard, but I've sen many an old car
and/or truck that had a gazillion miles and years on them and no rust
on the cast iron brake reservoir.

I wonder what the difference is? something abotu the heat under the
engine compartment causing something not to rust and corroede?

Got me, but that International L-110 I restored master cylinder was
clean (cast iron), but all the lines from it were toast.

Maybe it's the lines and not the cyliinder.

I know what your saying, but that cylinder of yours looks pretty
gawdy, but of course it has a steel cap on it too, Maybe the brake
fluid attacks the steel but not the cast iron.


Most strange.

On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 08:36:53 -0400, Wizard of Woodstock
wrote:

Got me, but that International L-110 I restored master cylinder was
clean (cast iron), but all the lines from it were toast.

Maybe it's the lines and not the cyliinder.

Steel is highly susceptable to rust, while cast iron is very corrosion
resistant.

Casady

Richard Casady wrote:
On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 08:36:53 -0400, Wizard of Woodstock
wrote:

Got me, but that International L-110 I restored master cylinder was
clean (cast iron), but all the lines from it were toast.

Maybe it's the lines and not the cyliinder.

Steel is highly susceptable to rust, while cast iron is very corrosion
resistant.

Casady

I have always had to make sure my cast iron skillets were well seasoned
or they would rust.

--
Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq.

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On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 16:40:07 -0400, "Reginald P Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

Richard Casady wrote:
On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 08:36:53 -0400, Wizard of Woodstock
wrote:

Got me, but that International L-110 I restored master cylinder was
clean (cast iron), but all the lines from it were toast.

Maybe it's the lines and not the cyliinder.

Steel is highly susceptable to rust, while cast iron is very corrosion
resistant.

Casady

I have always had to make sure my cast iron skillets were well seasoned
or they would rust.

Isn't that how you're supposed to get the brown coating on steak and
chicken?
--

John H