For Republicans, the Forces Aren't With Them

By Dan Balz
Sunday, June 14, 2009
Washington Post

There has been much chatter about who now speaks for the Republican
Party, and whether the GOP has a message or an agenda to combat
President Obama's popularity. Those questions are important to the
party's future, but the most serious problem remains the deeper
demographic and political forces at work in the country.

For the past few months, political analysts and demographers have been
poring over the results of the 2008 election and comparing them with
presidential results from the past two decades. From whatever angle of
their approach -- age, race, economic status, geography -- they have
come to a remarkably similar conclusion. Almost all indicators are
pressing the Republicans into minority status.

Republicans are still capable of winning individual elections, but until
they find a way to reverse, or at least minimize, these broader changes
in the country, their chances of returning to majority status will be
severely reduced.

The American Enterprise Institute and the Brookings Institution convened
a stellar cast on Friday to review what has been learned since November.
The panel included Robert Lang of Virginia Tech; Ruy Teixeira of the
Center for American Progress; William Frey of the Brookings Institution;
Bill Bishop, a Texas writer and author of "The Big Sort"; Scott Keeter
of the Pew Research Center; and Ronald Brownstein of Atlantic Media.
They presented a wealth of data about what happened in 2008 and offered
conclusions that would alarm any Republican hopeful of a quick
turnaround in the party's fortunes.

Democrats have won the popular vote in four of the past five elections,
though in one case (2000) they did not end up in the White House. In
years in which they have also won the electoral vote, Democrats have
racked up sizable margins. Obama bested John McCain by 365 to 173, and
Bill Clinton's two victories were in the same range. George W. Bush's
two electoral-college victories were narrow; he won 271 votes in the
disputed election of 2000 and 286 in his 2004 reelection.

What has brought this about? It's not just one thing -- it's everything.
Start with the Democrats' success in the suburbs. Lang's formula is that
demography and density have combined to help Democrats: They dominate
not just the cities but also the urbanized suburbs that contain the
largest share of the suburban population in America.

Democratic strength in the counties around Philadelphia, around Detroit
and in Northern Virginia have squeezed Republicans dramatically.
Increasingly, Republican strength outside the urban areas counts for
less. "There's just not enough rural folks and small-city people left in
America in the key states that determine the electoral college to offset
that difference," Lang said. "You're out of people."

That's one geographical reality. The other, which became acute in 2008,
is that outside the South, Republicans are in trouble. McCain won the
South in November, but Obama swept the rest of the country by an even
bigger margin. The same pattern holds now for House and Senate seats.
Republicans may continue to win governorships in Democratic-leaning
states, but in congressional and presidential elections the geographic
divides are sizable.

Brownstein reeled off a list of statistics that all arrived at the same
place: The South now accounts for a greater share of Republican strength
than at virtually any time since the party's founding. That base is too
narrow, as even Republicans know.

Demographically, the forces at work have chipped away at what was once a
GOP-leaning majority in the country. The most important is minorities'
rising share of the vote. Whites accounted for 76 percent of the overall
electorate last November, down from 85 percent in 1988.

In the last election, there were more than 2 million additional African
American voters, about 2 million more Hispanic voters and about a
million more Asian American voters. All are groups in which Obama
increased the Democratic share of the vote over 2004. Frey estimated
that minority voters in nine states made the difference in Obama's
victory margin.

Republicans can't reverse the demographic trends; their only solution is
to increase their share of the minority vote. Opposing Judge Sonia
Sotomayor, Obama's Supreme Court nominee, because of her pride in being
a Latina won't help solve that problem.

There was much attention paid to Obama's trouble winning the votes of
white working-class voters. The bad news for Republicans is that these
voters represent a declining share of the electorate.

Since 1988, that group's proportion of the national electorate has
dropped by 15 percentage points. In Pennsylvania, Teixeira reported, it
has declined by 25 percentage points. Teixeira reported that Obama
actually won the votes of working-class whites ages 25 to 29; at this
point, they appear more culturally liberal than their elders.

As the working-class vote shrinks, the college-educated vote increases,
and Democrats are gaining a greater share of these voters. Democrats
lost white college graduates by 20 percentage points in 1988 but by four
points last November. That is another big reason they have gained
strength in the suburbs.

Obama's strength among young voters was a staple of coverage throughout
his bid for the White House, although as Keeter pointed out, he could
have won in November without the votes of anyone younger than 30. But
his margin was the biggest in several decades and that alone should
worry Republicans.

Obama may appeal to younger voters, but their shift toward the Democrats
predates his candidacy. "This really is not Obama," Keeter said. "Young
voters were John Kerry's best age group. They were the Democratic
candidates' best age group in the 2006 elections, and they were the best
age group for other Democratic candidates in 2008."

Younger voters are more diverse demographically than older voters. In
2008, 62 percent were white, compared with 74 percent eight years
earlier. Projections show young voters will become increasingly diverse.
They are also less religious and more culturally liberal, two indicators
of Democratic support.

GOP strategist Mike Murphy described this in Time magazine as a coming
Republican ice age. Republicans will need a major shift to begin to
reverse these trends. That could start if there is a backlash against
Obama's governance -- and the president's agenda certainly will test the
country's tolerance for a big dose of government. But Republicans will
need to retool in other ways to make themselves more appealing to a
changing population. That debate has barely begun.
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The modern GOP is little more than an army of moral absolutists led by a
gang of moral nihilists.

....than another cut 'n paste from our resident dolt.

Wake me when he as something original.

--Mike

On Sat, 13 Jun 2009 20:32:16 -0700, "mgg" wrote:

...than another cut 'n paste from our resident dolt.

Wake me when he as something original.

He's not capable of writing anything original.

Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Sat, 13 Jun 2009 20:32:16 -0700, "mgg" wrote:

...than another cut 'n paste from our resident dolt.

Wake me when he as something original.

He's not capable of writing anything original.



For rec.boats? Why bother? Though I guess I could write a screed about
Husqvarna does not make/market certain model lawn tractors, as you did.

Or...how about some made-up fuel consumption figures about outboards?

Or the wisdom of buying a 25" shaft outboard for a 20" transom boat?



--
The modern GOP is little more than an army of moral absolutists led by a
gang of moral nihilists.

"Wizard of Woodstock" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 13 Jun 2009 20:32:16 -0700, "mgg" wrote:

...than another cut 'n paste from our resident dolt.

Wake me when he as something original.

He's not capable of writing anything original.

That's become all too apparent.

--Mike

On Mon, 15 Jun 2009 16:09:20 -0700, "mgg" wrote:


"Wizard of Woodstock" wrote in message
.. .
On Sat, 13 Jun 2009 20:32:16 -0700, "mgg" wrote:

...than another cut 'n paste from our resident dolt.

Wake me when he as something original.

He's not capable of writing anything original.

That's become all too apparent.

"That's become all too apparent." Golly, how original!

And so smart sounding. I wonder who wrote that originally?

Think you have something/anything original to say? Not bloody likely.
Not a chance on earth that a simple dolt like you could structure any
idea or information in a way that hasn't been written or said before.

What's all too apparent is that you're among the rec.boats wingnuts.

Hope you're enjoying all the killing being done in your name...

jps wrote:
On Mon, 15 Jun 2009 16:09:20 -0700, "mgg" wrote:

"Wizard of Woodstock" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 13 Jun 2009 20:32:16 -0700, "mgg" wrote:

...than another cut 'n paste from our resident dolt.

Wake me when he as something original.
He's not capable of writing anything original.
That's become all too apparent.

"That's become all too apparent." Golly, how original!

And so smart sounding. I wonder who wrote that originally?

Think you have something/anything original to say? Not bloody likely.
Not a chance on earth that a simple dolt like you could structure any
idea or information in a way that hasn't been written or said before.

What's all too apparent is that you're among the rec.boats wingnuts.

Hope you're enjoying all the killing being done in your name...


There's no reason to write something thoughtful, long and "original" for
rec.boats. I actually used to do that here, but the right-wing
trashmeisters immediately jumped on it and tried to turn it into their
sort of garbage. Really...why bother when the audience consists of
floridajims, loogys, justhates and wookies.


--
The modern GOP is little more than an army of moral absolutists led by a
gang of moral nihilists.

On Mon, 15 Jun 2009 16:18:40 -0700, jps wrote:

in a way that hasn't been written

Very original.

Google: Results 1 - 10 of about 1,610 for "in a way that hasn't been
written". (0.30 seconds)

You must have been the inventor of that phrase.
--
John H

"The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those
who are willing to work and give to those who would not."
Thomas Jefferson

"HK" wrote in message
m...

For Republicans, the Forces Aren't With Them

By Dan Balz
Sunday, June 14, 2009
Washington Post


(cut and paste snipped)

I still can't figure out what is so scary about the GOP to the likes of
Harry, jps and other lefties.

They won. Obama is in. The Dems control congress.

Yet, Harry and his tribe continue to spin any and all negatives related to
Republicans. Why?
If the GOP is dead (as they claim) why the constant efforts to try to
convince the rest of us?

Could it be that they are not so sure?

Eisboch

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"HK" wrote in message
m...

For Republicans, the Forces Aren't With Them

By Dan Balz
Sunday, June 14, 2009
Washington Post


(cut and paste snipped)

I still can't figure out what is so scary about the GOP to the likes of
Harry, jps and other lefties.

They won. Obama is in. The Dems control congress.

Yet, Harry and his tribe continue to spin any and all negatives related to
Republicans. Why?
If the GOP is dead (as they claim) why the constant efforts to try to
convince the rest of us?

Could it be that they are not so sure?

Eisboch


Because Hairy and his handlers are pumping life into the Republicans with
there extreme spending, etc.