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June 7, 2009
Doctor Who Was Shot in Church Is Buried
By DAVID BARSTOW
NY Times

WICHITA, Kan. — George R. Tiller, the Wichita physician who was shot
dead in his church last week, was remembered at his funeral Saturday as
a man of courage who showed uncommon grace in the face of constant
challenge to his medical practice, which included late-term abortions.

“He is in a much better place now, a safe place, a place where he is
free,” said Dr. Tiller’s son, Maury, who did not need to remind anyone
at the service that his father rarely went in public without a
bullet-proof vest.

Dr. Tiller’s death leaves in doubt the future of Wichita’s only
remaining abortion clinic. It also leaves even fewer options for women
around the country who are seeking late-term abortions. But for the most
part, Dr. Tiller’s funeral focused less on his work than on his life
with his family and friends.

The word abortion was never uttered, nor were there any recriminations
against the anti-abortion groups who for nearly two decades had tried in
vain to put him out of business through relentless protests and an array
of legal actions.

Instead, the mourners sang “A Mighty Fortress is Our God” and read the
prayer of Saint Francis of Assisi. Dr. Tiller was recalled as a man who
loved Elvis, Johnny Cash and the University of Kansas, who had a
weakness for James Bond and bad jokes, who gave 25 years of service to
Alcoholics Anonymous, who was called “Tuna” by his fraternity brothers
because he was such a good swimmer, and “buddy” by Jeanne Tiller, his
wife of almost 45 years, because they were best friends.

“Dear God, get heaven ready, because Mr. Enthusiasm is coming,” Larry
Borcherding, a friend of nearly 50 years, said to laughter. “Heaven will
never be the same.”

Dr. Tiller’s oldest daughter, Jennifer, told of how she and her family
and her parents had spent the week before the shooting at Disney World.
She described her father, in sandals and white ankle socks, wearing far
too much sunblock, spending the final days of his life at play. “He was
just a normal guy,” she said.

Security at the service was tight, with dozens of uniformed and
plainclothes officers mingling inside and outside College Hill United
Methodist Church.

Hundreds of mourners streamed into the church, quickly filling the main
sanctuary, which seats about 800. Hundreds more, including women who had
once been Dr. Tiller’s patients, packed an overflow room, with dozens
more crowded in the church hallways.

Most carried white carnations and wore a button that read, “Attitude is
everything.” The button held special significance. Dr. Tiller, a lover
of axioms, had worn a similar button for more than 25 years.

At the front of the sanctuary, beside a framed photograph of Dr. Tiller,
was a large wreath that framed a simple sign, “Trust Women.” The family
also announced the establishment of the George R. Tiller Memorial Fund
for the Advancement of Women’s Health.

On the sidewalk outside, several dozen women, including the civil rights
lawyer Gloria Allred, lined up in what they called a “Martyr Guard” to
protect Dr. Tiller’s family from being exposed to any protesters.

Yet while the death of Dr. Tiller, who was 67, brought a quick
condemnation from the White House, prominent Kansas politicians were
hard to spot at the funeral.

Representatives of the major anti-abortion groups in Wichita were
nowhere to be seen either, although a dozen or so abortion opponents
gathered in a holding area a few blocks from the church.

One protest sign read “God Sent the Shooter,” an apparent reference to
Scott P. Roeder, the anti-abortion campaigner who has been charged with
first-degree murder in Dr. Tiller’s death.

Inside the church, near the end of the service, Mrs. Tiller rose and
from the altar sang “The Lord’s Prayer” in a clear, strong, unwavering
voice.

She dedicated it to “my best buddy and the love of my life.”


- - -

Another victim of religious terrorists...

I hope the federal investigation into this murder casts a wide net,
finds facts of a conspiracy, and ends up in lots of indictments, trials,
and prison sentences.

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You are truly obsessed.

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You are truly obsessed.




Yeah, I do see religious terrorists as a threat to our society, whether
they are Muslim or Christian. For all intents and purposes, they are
exactly the same kind of people.

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On Sat, 6 Jun 2009 17:45:50 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:


"HK" wrote in message
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You are truly obsessed.


You're correct, but he does get folks to respond to his incessant
trolls.
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D.Duck wrote:
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You are truly obsessed.


Yeah, I do see religious terrorists as a threat to our society, whether
they are Muslim or Christian. For all intents and purposes, they are
exactly the same kind of people.


That's fine. No problem with your beliefs.

Something about shoving beliefs down other's throats. You know, repetition.

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D.Duck wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
m...
D.Duck wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
m...



You are truly obsessed.

Yeah, I do see religious terrorists as a threat to our society, whether
they are Muslim or Christian. For all intents and purposes, they are
exactly the same kind of people.


That's fine. No problem with your beliefs.

Something about shoving beliefs down other's throats. You know, repetition.




You don't seem to get it. While I announce my positions, I don't force
them on anyone. The righties not only announce their positions, they
want to legislate them onto everyone else, and if that doesn't work,
they murder their opponents. I'm on the side of freedom of speech; they
are terrorists.

Now, we're heading to a church for a nice dinner.

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"HK" wrote in message
m...
D.Duck wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
m...
D.Duck wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
m...



You are truly obsessed.

Yeah, I do see religious terrorists as a threat to our society, whether
they are Muslim or Christian. For all intents and purposes, they are
exactly the same kind of people.


That's fine. No problem with your beliefs.

Something about shoving beliefs down other's throats. You know,
repetition.


You don't seem to get it. While I announce my positions, I don't force
them on anyone. The righties not only announce their positions, they want
to legislate them onto everyone else, and if that doesn't work, they
murder their opponents. I'm on the side of freedom of speech; they are
terrorists.

Now, we're heading to a church for a nice dinner.



Enjoy....

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On Jun 6, 4:56*pm, HK wrote:
D.Duck wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
om...
D.Duck wrote:
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You are truly obsessed.

Yeah, I do see religious terrorists as a threat to our society, whether
they are Muslim or Christian. For all intents and purposes, they are
exactly the same kind of people.

That's fine. *No problem with your beliefs.

Something about shoving beliefs down other's throats. *You know, repetition.

You don't seem to get it. While I announce my positions, I don't force
them on anyone. The righties not only announce their positions, they
want to legislate them onto everyone else, and if that doesn't work,
they murder their opponents. I'm on the side of freedom of speech; they
are terrorists.

Now, we're heading to a church for a nice dinner.

Mooching in the soup line, Herr Krause?

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June 7, 2009
Doctor Who Was Shot in Church Is Buried
By DAVID BARSTOW
NY Times

WICHITA, Kan. — George R. Tiller, the Wichita physician who was shot dead
in his church last week, was remembered at his funeral Saturday as a man
of courage who showed uncommon grace in the face of constant challenge to
his medical practice, which included late-term abortions.

“He is in a much better place now, a safe place, a place where he is
free,” said Dr. Tiller’s son, Maury, who did not need to remind anyone at
the service that his father rarely went in public without a bullet-proof
vest.

Dr. Tiller’s death leaves in doubt the future of Wichita’s only remaining
abortion clinic. It also leaves even fewer options for women around the
country who are seeking late-term abortions. But for the most part, Dr.
Tiller’s funeral focused less on his work than on his life with his family
and friends.

The word abortion was never uttered, nor were there any recriminations
against the anti-abortion groups who for nearly two decades had tried in
vain to put him out of business through relentless protests and an array
of legal actions.

Instead, the mourners sang “A Mighty Fortress is Our God” and read the
prayer of Saint Francis of Assisi. Dr. Tiller was recalled as a man who
loved Elvis, Johnny Cash and the University of Kansas, who had a weakness
for James Bond and bad jokes, who gave 25 years of service to Alcoholics
Anonymous, who was called “Tuna” by his fraternity brothers because he was
such a good swimmer, and “buddy” by Jeanne Tiller, his wife of almost 45
years, because they were best friends.

“Dear God, get heaven ready, because Mr. Enthusiasm is coming,” Larry
Borcherding, a friend of nearly 50 years, said to laughter. “Heaven will
never be the same.”

Dr. Tiller’s oldest daughter, Jennifer, told of how she and her family and
her parents had spent the week before the shooting at Disney World. She
described her father, in sandals and white ankle socks, wearing far too
much sunblock, spending the final days of his life at play. “He was just a
normal guy,” she said.

Security at the service was tight, with dozens of uniformed and
plainclothes officers mingling inside and outside College Hill United
Methodist Church.

Hundreds of mourners streamed into the church, quickly filling the main
sanctuary, which seats about 800. Hundreds more, including women who had
once been Dr. Tiller’s patients, packed an overflow room, with dozens more
crowded in the church hallways.

Most carried white carnations and wore a button that read, “Attitude is
everything.” The button held special significance. Dr. Tiller, a lover of
axioms, had worn a similar button for more than 25 years.

At the front of the sanctuary, beside a framed photograph of Dr. Tiller,
was a large wreath that framed a simple sign, “Trust Women.” The family
also announced the establishment of the George R. Tiller Memorial Fund for
the Advancement of Women’s Health.

On the sidewalk outside, several dozen women, including the civil rights
lawyer Gloria Allred, lined up in what they called a “Martyr Guard” to
protect Dr. Tiller’s family from being exposed to any protesters.

Yet while the death of Dr. Tiller, who was 67, brought a quick
condemnation from the White House, prominent Kansas politicians were hard
to spot at the funeral.

Representatives of the major anti-abortion groups in Wichita were nowhere
to be seen either, although a dozen or so abortion opponents gathered in a
holding area a few blocks from the church.

One protest sign read “God Sent the Shooter,” an apparent reference to
Scott P. Roeder, the anti-abortion campaigner who has been charged with
first-degree murder in Dr. Tiller’s death.

Inside the church, near the end of the service, Mrs. Tiller rose and from
the altar sang “The Lord’s Prayer” in a clear, strong, unwavering voice.

She dedicated it to “my best buddy and the love of my life.”


- - -

Another victim of religious terrorists...

I hope the federal investigation into this murder casts a wide net, finds
facts of a conspiracy, and ends up in lots of indictments, trials, and
prison sentences.



Your cut and paste bull**** is out of control. Get a friggin' life will ya?
Seriously, don't you have anything better to do??

--Mike

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"HK" wrote in message
m...
D.Duck wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
m...
D.Duck wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
m...



You are truly obsessed.

Yeah, I do see religious terrorists as a threat to our society, whether
they are Muslim or Christian. For all intents and purposes, they are
exactly the same kind of people.


That's fine. No problem with your beliefs.

Something about shoving beliefs down other's throats. You know,
repetition.


You don't seem to get it. While I announce my positions, I don't force
them on anyone. The righties not only announce their positions, they want
to legislate them onto everyone else, and if that doesn't work, they
murder their opponents. I'm on the side of freedom of speech; they are
terrorists.

Now, we're heading to a church for a nice dinner.


Liar.

--Mike

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D.Duck wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
m...
D.Duck wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
m...
D.Duck wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
m...



You are truly obsessed.
Yeah, I do see religious terrorists as a threat to our society, whether
they are Muslim or Christian. For all intents and purposes, they are
exactly the same kind of people.

That's fine. No problem with your beliefs.

Something about shoving beliefs down other's throats. You know,
repetition.

You don't seem to get it. While I announce my positions, I don't force
them on anyone. The righties not only announce their positions, they want
to legislate them onto everyone else, and if that doesn't work, they
murder their opponents. I'm on the side of freedom of speech; they are
terrorists.

Now, we're heading to a church for a nice dinner.



Enjoy....


That's our Krause. Sucking every freebie he can from society.

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Mike wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
m...
June 7, 2009
Doctor Who Was Shot in Church Is Buried
By DAVID BARSTOW
NY Times

WICHITA, Kan. — George R. Tiller, the Wichita physician who was shot dead
in his church last week, was remembered at his funeral Saturday as a man
of courage who showed uncommon grace in the face of constant challenge to
his medical practice, which included late-term abortions.

“He is in a much better place now, a safe place, a place where he is
free,” said Dr. Tiller’s son, Maury, who did not need to remind anyone at
the service that his father rarely went in public without a bullet-proof
vest.

Dr. Tiller’s death leaves in doubt the future of Wichita’s only remaining
abortion clinic. It also leaves even fewer options for women around the
country who are seeking late-term abortions. But for the most part, Dr.
Tiller’s funeral focused less on his work than on his life with his family
and friends.

The word abortion was never uttered, nor were there any recriminations
against the anti-abortion groups who for nearly two decades had tried in
vain to put him out of business through relentless protests and an array
of legal actions.

Instead, the mourners sang “A Mighty Fortress is Our God” and read the
prayer of Saint Francis of Assisi. Dr. Tiller was recalled as a man who
loved Elvis, Johnny Cash and the University of Kansas, who had a weakness
for James Bond and bad jokes, who gave 25 years of service to Alcoholics
Anonymous, who was called “Tuna” by his fraternity brothers because he was
such a good swimmer, and “buddy” by Jeanne Tiller, his wife of almost 45
years, because they were best friends.

“Dear God, get heaven ready, because Mr. Enthusiasm is coming,” Larry
Borcherding, a friend of nearly 50 years, said to laughter. “Heaven will
never be the same.”

Dr. Tiller’s oldest daughter, Jennifer, told of how she and her family and
her parents had spent the week before the shooting at Disney World. She
described her father, in sandals and white ankle socks, wearing far too
much sunblock, spending the final days of his life at play. “He was just a
normal guy,” she said.

Security at the service was tight, with dozens of uniformed and
plainclothes officers mingling inside and outside College Hill United
Methodist Church.

Hundreds of mourners streamed into the church, quickly filling the main
sanctuary, which seats about 800. Hundreds more, including women who had
once been Dr. Tiller’s patients, packed an overflow room, with dozens more
crowded in the church hallways.

Most carried white carnations and wore a button that read, “Attitude is
everything.” The button held special significance. Dr. Tiller, a lover of
axioms, had worn a similar button for more than 25 years.

At the front of the sanctuary, beside a framed photograph of Dr. Tiller,
was a large wreath that framed a simple sign, “Trust Women.” The family
also announced the establishment of the George R. Tiller Memorial Fund for
the Advancement of Women’s Health.

On the sidewalk outside, several dozen women, including the civil rights
lawyer Gloria Allred, lined up in what they called a “Martyr Guard” to
protect Dr. Tiller’s family from being exposed to any protesters.

Yet while the death of Dr. Tiller, who was 67, brought a quick
condemnation from the White House, prominent Kansas politicians were hard
to spot at the funeral.

Representatives of the major anti-abortion groups in Wichita were nowhere
to be seen either, although a dozen or so abortion opponents gathered in a
holding area a few blocks from the church.

One protest sign read “God Sent the Shooter,” an apparent reference to
Scott P. Roeder, the anti-abortion campaigner who has been charged with
first-degree murder in Dr. Tiller’s death.

Inside the church, near the end of the service, Mrs. Tiller rose and from
the altar sang “The Lord’s Prayer” in a clear, strong, unwavering voice.

She dedicated it to “my best buddy and the love of my life.”


- - -

Another victim of religious terrorists...

I hope the federal investigation into this murder casts a wide net, finds
facts of a conspiracy, and ends up in lots of indictments, trials, and
prison sentences.



Your cut and paste bull**** is out of control. Get a friggin' life will ya?
Seriously, don't you have anything better to do??

--Mike


Rec.boats is Krause's life. Sad isn't it?

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On Sat, 06 Jun 2009 17:44:17 -0400, HK wrote:

June 7, 2009
Doctor Who Was Shot in Church Is Buried
By DAVID BARSTOW
NY Times

The dichotomty between the media hubbub surrounding the murder of Dr
George Tiller and the virtual silence about the murder of Pvt. William
Long by a religious terrorist is quite startling.

Waves of self-appointed pro-choice spokespersons like Harry use
tactics like cut-and-paste with their collective j’accuse against
pro-lifers for the murder of Dr Tiller by a crazed opponent of
late-term abortions. Thousands of words, broad generalizations about
"christianists", etc.

Yet there were few reports about the murder of Private William Long of
Conway, Arkansas, by a crazed religiously motivated opponent of the
wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. There was a story in the New York Times
about the Arkansas case, but did not mention the similarities between
the killings.

Abdulhakim Mujahid Muhammad (né Carlos Bledsoe of Little Rock) has the
same kind of connection with Islamic terrorists in Yemen that Scott
Roeder, the murderer of Dr. Tiller, had with the Freemen or other
‘militia" groups yet nothing was said about that.

Nothing from Harry about Pvt. Long - nada, zip, zero. No expressions
of remorse, no crowing about "religious terrorists", no punishing
tiatribes about "black muslim terrorists" and their nefarious doings,
no broad generalizations and screeds.

That my friends is bigotry - pure and simple. The worst kind of
prejudice imaginable - the use of over generalization and distortion
to create an unfavorable opinion of a class of citizens.

It's hate speech of the finest kind.

Harry added the following to his cut 'n paste.

Another victim of religious terrorists...

Notice the generalization aiming directly at one class of citizens -
not "terrorists" but "religious terrorists". Christionists I believe
he said once.

Now he'll try to say - "I mean all religious terrorism", but we all
know he doesn't - he has a prejudiced view of Christians and Pro-life
advocates in addition to political conservatives.

I hope the federal investigation into this murder casts a wide net,
finds facts of a conspiracy, and ends up in lots of indictments, trials,
and prison sentences.

So do I - unfortunately for you, it's only those who believe that you
want investigated - white christians who oppose abortion and not black
muslim terrorists who oppose our very way of life.

Bigotry, prejudice and hate - as practiced by Harry.

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On Sun, 07 Jun 2009 06:54:25 -0400, jim78565 wrote:



--Mike


Rec.boats is Krause's life. Sad isn't it?

Hey Jim, is there something special about Los Ebanos, TX?

http://tinyurl.com/lq4xx9

I'm thinking you're latching onto zip codes of places you want to
visit. :)


--
John H

"I'd rather be a Conservative nut job than a Liberal with no nuts and no job!

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jim78565 wrote:
Mike wrote:



Your cut and paste bull**** is out of control. Get a friggin' life
will ya? Seriously, don't you have anything better to do??

--Mike

Rec.boats is Krause's life. Sad isn't it?

According to Harry, he spends very little time in rec.boats. He has
stated many times he uses a anonymous name posting in "real boating
forums". Forums that would ban scum like most of the people who post in
rec.boats.

If his post in rec.boats take up a small percent of his day, can you
imagine how many posts he makes in "real boating forums"?

I can't figure out why he believes everyone should use their real name
in rec.boats, but he posts via a handle in "real boating" forums?


--
Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq.

This Newsgroup post is a natural product. The slight variations in
spelling and grammar enhance its individual character and beauty and in
no way are to be considered flaws or defects

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Zombie of Woodstock wrote:
On Sat, 06 Jun 2009 17:44:17 -0400, HK wrote:

June 7, 2009
Doctor Who Was Shot in Church Is Buried
By DAVID BARSTOW
NY Times

The dichotomty between the media hubbub surrounding the murder of Dr
George Tiller and the virtual silence about the murder of Pvt. William
Long by a religious terrorist is quite startling.

Waves of self-appointed pro-choice spokespersons like Harry use
tactics like cut-and-paste with their collective j’accuse against
pro-lifers for the murder of Dr Tiller by a crazed opponent of
late-term abortions. Thousands of words, broad generalizations about
"christianists", etc.



The scum who kill doctors or by their words (Bill O'Reilly, for
example), urge on the simple-minded to do so, are not "pro-life."
They are "pro-birth." Try to keep what they are straight, eh?
They don't give a damn about life.

The fellow who killed the private probably is no different from the
scumbag who killed Dr. Tiller: a simple-minded fool easily directed by
those with a poisonous agenda.

The term terrorist, though, usually indicates an individual who goes
after civilians or civilian infrastructure in order to instill fear, or
make a point.

Those "white christians" who oppose abortion are entitled to do so. They
are not entitled to incite the weak-minded to kill doctors.

Our federal government supposedly keeps an eye on muslim-related
terrorists in this country. I'm simply urging they also keep an eye on
the christian-related terrorists.

I realize this may be too sophisticated for you righties. Too bad.

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On Sun, 07 Jun 2009 07:16:40 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

jim78565 wrote:
Mike wrote:



Your cut and paste bull**** is out of control. Get a friggin' life
will ya? Seriously, don't you have anything better to do??

--Mike

Rec.boats is Krause's life. Sad isn't it?

According to Harry, he spends very little time in rec.boats. He has
stated many times he uses a anonymous name posting in "real boating
forums". Forums that would ban scum like most of the people who post in
rec.boats.

If his post in rec.boats take up a small percent of his day, can you
imagine how many posts he makes in "real boating forums"?

I can't figure out why he believes everyone should use their real name
in rec.boats, but he posts via a handle in "real boating" forums?

You would think Donnie would jump to Harry's aid and point out the
rationale for these activities.

Unless...they're lies. Surely not.
--
John H

"HONK - if I'm paying your mortgage!"

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HK wrote:
Zombie of Woodstock wrote:
On Sat, 06 Jun 2009 17:44:17 -0400, HK wrote:

June 7, 2009
Doctor Who Was Shot in Church Is Buried
By DAVID BARSTOW
NY Times

The dichotomty between the media hubbub surrounding the murder of Dr
George Tiller and the virtual silence about the murder of Pvt. William
Long by a religious terrorist is quite startling.
Waves of self-appointed pro-choice spokespersons like Harry use
tactics like cut-and-paste with their collective j’accuse against
pro-lifers for the murder of Dr Tiller by a crazed opponent of
late-term abortions. Thousands of words, broad generalizations about
"christianists", etc.



The scum who kill doctors or by their words (Bill O'Reilly, for
example), urge on the simple-minded to do so, are not "pro-life."
They are "pro-birth." Try to keep what they are straight, eh?
They don't give a damn about life.

The fellow who killed the private probably is no different from the
scumbag who killed Dr. Tiller: a simple-minded fool easily directed by
those with a poisonous agenda.

The term terrorist, though, usually indicates an individual who goes
after civilians or civilian infrastructure in order to instill fear, or
make a point.

Those "white christians" who oppose abortion are entitled to do so. They
are not entitled to incite the weak-minded to kill doctors.

Our federal government supposedly keeps an eye on muslim-related
terrorists in this country. I'm simply urging they also keep an eye on
the christian-related terrorists.

I realize this may be too sophisticated for you righties. Too bad.

You are a fruitcake.

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Zombie of Woodstock wrote:

Now he'll try to say - "I mean all religious terrorism", but we all
know he doesn't - he has a prejudiced view of Christians and Pro-life
advocates in addition to political conservatives.

HK wrote:

The fellow who killed the private probably is no different from the
scumbag who killed Dr. Tiller: a simple-minded fool easily directed by
those with a poisonous agenda.

You were right, Tom.


HK wrote:

I realize this may be too sophisticated for you righties. Too bad.


I'm not a "righties" so it's not too sophisticated for me. It's sophistry.

Johnson