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Wizard of Woodstock June 5th 09 02:18 AM

Yo!! Youse four stroker dudes...
 
Gotta question - do your engines have an EMM (Engine Management Module
- aka "computer") and if so, how is it cooled?

HK June 5th 09 02:24 AM

Yo!! Youse four stroker dudes...
 
Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
Gotta question - do your engines have an EMM (Engine Management Module
- aka "computer") and if so, how is it cooled?



Heh, heh, heh.

1. Yes.

2. Very well, and thanks for asking.

Wayne.B June 5th 09 03:41 AM

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On Thu, 04 Jun 2009 21:18:05 -0400, Wizard of Woodstock
wrote:

Gotta question - do your engines have an EMM (Engine Management Module
- aka "computer") and if so, how is it cooled?


Yes, Honda BF20 OB, not cooled at all as far as I know.

Yes, Mercruiser 6.2L EFI I/O, ditto.

The EMM knows all and tells all, except when it doesn't. Sensor
reliability appears to be more of an issue than the EMM itself.


Tim June 5th 09 04:22 AM

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On Jun 4, 8:18*pm, Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
Gotta question - do your engines have an EMM (Engine Management Module
- aka "computer") and if so, how is it cooled?


Tom,Computers on cars and large diesel equipment arn't cooled via
special aperatus. So I don't see why they would be on a marine
application.

Eisboch[_4_] June 5th 09 10:01 AM

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"Tim" wrote in message
...
On Jun 4, 8:18 pm, Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
Gotta question - do your engines have an EMM (Engine Management Module
- aka "computer") and if so, how is it cooled?


Tom,Computers on cars and large diesel equipment arn't cooled via
special aperatus. So I don't see why they would be on a marine
application.

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I recall reading that they are. They are mounted on a heat sink that in
turn is mounted on a surface that the heat is removed from by the engine's
water cooling system. The outboards don't have the ambient, convective
cooling that cars and trucks have.

There were some early, computer controlled outboards that had some problems
due to inadequate cooling of the computer, although I don't remember which
engine manufacturer it was. I don't think it was Etec and whoever it was
redesigned it to resolve the problem.

Eisboch



[email protected] June 5th 09 12:45 PM

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On Jun 4, 9:24*pm, HK wrote:
Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
Gotta question - do your engines have an EMM (Engine Management Module
- aka "computer") and if so, how is it cooled?


Heh, heh, heh.

1. Yes.

2. Very well, and thanks for asking.


This from the alleged mechanical engineer.

[email protected] June 5th 09 12:47 PM

Yo!! Youse four stroker dudes...
 
On Jun 5, 5:01*am, "Eisboch" wrote:
"Tim" wrote in message

...
On Jun 4, 8:18 pm, Wizard of Woodstock wrote:

Gotta question - do your engines have an EMM (Engine Management Module
- aka "computer") and if so, how is it cooled?


Tom,Computers on cars and large diesel equipment arn't cooled via
special aperatus. So I don't see why they would be on a marine
application.

--------------------------

I recall reading that they are. * They are mounted on a heat sink that in
turn is mounted on a surface that the heat is removed from by the engine's
water cooling system. *The outboards don't have the ambient, convective
cooling that cars and trucks have.

There were some early, computer controlled outboards that had some problems
due to inadequate cooling of the computer, although I don't remember which
engine manufacturer it was. *I don't think it was Etec and whoever it was
redesigned it to resolve the problem.

Eisboch


Heat is not a friend of microchips, that's for sure.

Wizard of Woodstock June 5th 09 10:09 PM

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On Fri, 05 Jun 2009 11:48:19 -0400, Gene Kearns
wrote:

On Thu, 04 Jun 2009 21:18:05 -0400, Wizard of Woodstock penned the
following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

|Gotta question - do your engines have an EMM (Engine Management Module
|- aka "computer") and if so, how is it cooled?


Hmmmmm.... gonna have to pull a cover to be sure, but I think mine is
water cooled...

I'm sure the block, crankcase, intake manifold, fuel system and the
oil are water cooled. The cowl is also fan cooled and then there is
that odd looking vent at the top rear.....


That's a little different than mine, but it's close.

HK June 5th 09 10:11 PM

Yo!! Youse four stroker dudes...
 
Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Fri, 05 Jun 2009 11:48:19 -0400, Gene Kearns
wrote:

On Thu, 04 Jun 2009 21:18:05 -0400, Wizard of Woodstock penned the
following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

|Gotta question - do your engines have an EMM (Engine Management Module
|- aka "computer") and if so, how is it cooled?


Hmmmmm.... gonna have to pull a cover to be sure, but I think mine is
water cooled...

I'm sure the block, crankcase, intake manifold, fuel system and the
oil are water cooled. The cowl is also fan cooled and then there is
that odd looking vent at the top rear.....


That's a little different than mine, but it's close.


Does that mean your etec's aren't so special? :)

My Yamaha F225 had a water-cooled EMM, too. I presume my F150 also has one.

Gosh.


John H[_2_] June 5th 09 11:48 PM

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On Fri, 05 Jun 2009 17:11:33 -0400, HK wrote:

Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Fri, 05 Jun 2009 11:48:19 -0400, Gene Kearns
wrote:

On Thu, 04 Jun 2009 21:18:05 -0400, Wizard of Woodstock penned the
following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

|Gotta question - do your engines have an EMM (Engine Management Module
|- aka "computer") and if so, how is it cooled?


Hmmmmm.... gonna have to pull a cover to be sure, but I think mine is
water cooled...

I'm sure the block, crankcase, intake manifold, fuel system and the
oil are water cooled. The cowl is also fan cooled and then there is
that odd looking vent at the top rear.....


That's a little different than mine, but it's close.


Does that mean your etec's aren't so special? :)

My Yamaha F225 had a water-cooled EMM, too. I presume my F150 also has one.

Gosh.


It does.
--
John H

"The problem with Socialism is that you eventually run out of other people’s money." --Margaret Thatcher

Tim June 6th 09 03:59 AM

Yo!! Youse four stroker dudes...
 
On Jun 5, 8:35*pm, wrote:
On Fri, 05 Jun 2009 18:48:46 -0400, John H
wrote:



On Fri, 05 Jun 2009 17:11:33 -0400, HK wrote:


Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Fri, 05 Jun 2009 11:48:19 -0400, Gene Kearns
wrote:


On Thu, 04 Jun 2009 21:18:05 -0400, Wizard of Woodstock penned the
following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:


|Gotta question - do your engines have an EMM (Engine Management Module
|- aka "computer") and if so, how is it cooled?


Hmmmmm.... gonna have to pull a cover to be sure, but I think mine is
water cooled...


I'm sure the block, crankcase, intake manifold, fuel system and the
oil are water cooled. The cowl is also fan cooled and then there is
that odd looking vent at the top rear.....


That's a little different than mine, but it's close.


Does that mean your etec's aren't so special? * :)


My Yamaha F225 had a water-cooled EMM, too. I presume my F150 also has one.


Gosh.


It does.


I looked at some motors tonight on our evening boat ride
Mercurys breath from the back of the case pulling air across the ECM.
The port side is where the water jacket is so it runs hotter, the ECM
is on the starboard side and that is straight air to the intake
flowing across it.
Yamaha's seem to have vents in the front sides of the case so that air
won't be cooling the engine and maybe that is why they water cool the
ECM.


For years in the past, Nissan PU trucks had the ECM bolted right under
the passenger seat with no excessive ventilation. always seemed to run
good until some kid would decide to kick it if 4WD and go "swimming"

[email protected] June 6th 09 04:35 PM

Yo!! Youse four stroker dudes...
 
On Jun 5, 5:11*pm, HK wrote:
Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Fri, 05 Jun 2009 11:48:19 -0400, Gene Kearns
wrote:


On Thu, 04 Jun 2009 21:18:05 -0400, Wizard of Woodstock penned the
following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:


|Gotta question - do your engines have an EMM (Engine Management Module
|- aka "computer") and if so, how is it cooled?


Hmmmmm.... gonna have to pull a cover to be sure, but I think mine is
water cooled...


I'm sure the block, crankcase, intake manifold, fuel system and the
oil are water cooled. The cowl is also fan cooled and then there is
that odd looking vent at the top rear.....


That's a little different than mine, but it's close.


Does that mean your etec's aren't so special? * :)

My Yamaha F225 had a water-cooled EMM, too. I presume my F150 also has one.

Gosh.- Hide quoted text -

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Now Harry claims to have an F-150............................
Yesterday he had a Toyota SUV.........


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