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HK May 31st 09 11:08 PM

Another day of...
 
....boating, something the majority of posters here don't do.

Right, fellas?

:)

jim78 May 31st 09 11:22 PM

Another day of...
 
HK wrote:
...boating, something the majority of posters here don't do.

Right, fellas?

:)

You must be proud as a peacock.

D K[_4_] June 1st 09 12:42 AM

Another day of...
 
jim78 wrote:
HK wrote:
...boating, something the majority of posters here don't do.

Right, fellas?

:)

You must be proud as a peacock.


Yep. Two more hours on the LT Parker. He must be getting close to his
10 hours service on the Yamaha.

[email protected] June 1st 09 02:12 AM

Another day of...
 
On May 31, 7:42*pm, D K wrote:
jim78 wrote:
HK wrote:
...boating, something the majority of posters here don't do.


Right, fellas?


:)

You must be proud as a peacock.


Yep. *Two more hours on the LT Parker. *He must be getting close to his
10 hours service on the Yamaha.


We went out on the new boat this morning... Pulled out of the slip at
9am, picked up a friend at his lake house at 10am, the went to
Spinners for brunch.
http://spinnersresort.com/

Ate brunch there, then cruised the lake, checked out a couple of
marinas up the river, messed around until late afternoon. Dropped him
off about 6pm, covered the boat up back at the slip about 7:30pm.

Saw an old Starcraft boat... all aluminum, it was pretty cool. Also
saw another Premier pontoon with a Yamaha 350 on it (!).




Zombie of Woodstock June 1st 09 02:16 AM

Another day of...
 
On Sun, 31 May 2009 18:12:40 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On May 31, 7:42*pm, D K wrote:
jim78 wrote:
HK wrote:
...boating, something the majority of posters here don't do.


Right, fellas?


:)
You must be proud as a peacock.


Yep. *Two more hours on the LT Parker. *He must be getting close to his
10 hours service on the Yamaha.


We went out on the new boat this morning... Pulled out of the slip at
9am, picked up a friend at his lake house at 10am, the went to
Spinners for brunch.
http://spinnersresort.com/

Ate brunch there, then cruised the lake, checked out a couple of
marinas up the river, messed around until late afternoon. Dropped him
off about 6pm, covered the boat up back at the slip about 7:30pm.

Saw an old Starcraft boat... all aluminum, it was pretty cool. Also
saw another Premier pontoon with a Yamaha 350 on it (!).


You still at Jake's or did you move?

I tell you - that Lighthouse marina is really nice.

[email protected] June 1st 09 02:37 AM

Another day of...
 
On May 31, 9:16*pm, Zombie of Woodstock wrote:
On Sun, 31 May 2009 18:12:40 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
On May 31, 7:42*pm, D K wrote:
jim78 wrote:
HK wrote:
...boating, something the majority of posters here don't do.


Right, fellas?


:)
You must be proud as a peacock.


Yep. *Two more hours on the LT Parker. *He must be getting close to his
10 hours service on the Yamaha.


We went out on the new boat this morning... Pulled out of the slip at
9am, picked up a friend at his lake house at 10am, the went to
Spinners for brunch.
http://spinnersresort.com/


Ate brunch there, then cruised the lake, checked out a couple of
marinas up the river, messed around until late afternoon. *Dropped him
off about 6pm, covered the boat up back at the slip about 7:30pm.


Saw an old Starcraft boat... all aluminum, it was pretty cool. *Also
saw another Premier pontoon with a Yamaha 350 on it (!).


You still at Jake's or did you move?

I tell you - that Lighthouse marina is really nice.


Still at Jakes... you're right, the Lighthouse is nice, just too far
away.

When are you going to be back down here? Ping me.

Wizard of Woodstock June 1st 09 12:30 PM

Another day of...
 
On Sun, 31 May 2009 18:37:58 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On May 31, 9:16*pm, Zombie of Woodstock wrote:
On Sun, 31 May 2009 18:12:40 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
On May 31, 7:42*pm, D K wrote:
jim78 wrote:
HK wrote:
...boating, something the majority of posters here don't do.


Right, fellas?


:)
You must be proud as a peacock.


Yep. *Two more hours on the LT Parker. *He must be getting close to his
10 hours service on the Yamaha.


We went out on the new boat this morning... Pulled out of the slip at
9am, picked up a friend at his lake house at 10am, the went to
Spinners for brunch.
http://spinnersresort.com/

Ate brunch there, then cruised the lake, checked out a couple of
marinas up the river, messed around until late afternoon. *Dropped him
off about 6pm, covered the boat up back at the slip about 7:30pm.


Saw an old Starcraft boat... all aluminum, it was pretty cool. *Also
saw another Premier pontoon with a Yamaha 350 on it (!).


You still at Jake's or did you move?

I tell you - that Lighthouse marina is really nice.


Still at Jakes... you're right, the Lighthouse is nice, just too far
away.

When are you going to be back down here? Ping me.


I'm hoping for later this week - I've got some business related stuff
to finish off today and tomorrow.

I'll let you know - probably leave on Wednesday.

[email protected] June 1st 09 01:26 PM

Another day of...
 
On May 31, 6:08*pm, HK wrote:
...boating, something the majority of posters here don't do.

Right, fellas?

:)


Well, I don't feel the need to get to a computer and tell everyone in
rec.boats every time I take the boat out, that's for sure.

Richard Casady June 1st 09 09:12 PM

Another day of...
 
On Sun, 31 May 2009 18:12:40 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

Saw an old Starcraft boat... all aluminum, it was pretty cool. Also
saw another Premier pontoon with a Yamaha 350 on it (!).


I have an 1979 Starcraft 22 foot cuddy with a big 226 inch four. No
corrosion, the paint is shot. It has been outdoors the whole time.
I remember when aluminum and fiberglass were considered a no
maintainance miracle. Fifty years has proven that true. Back then,
most boats were wood.

Three grand with a new head gasket. I would take it from Iowa to
Halifax, through the Lakes, if it had some V to the bottom. Damn near
flat which is fast and non tippy at anchor. Just what you want for a
fish/ski.

Casady

D K[_4_] June 2nd 09 12:52 AM

Another day of...
 
wrote:
On May 31, 7:42 pm, D K wrote:
jim78 wrote:
HK wrote:
...boating, something the majority of posters here don't do.
Right, fellas?
:)
You must be proud as a peacock.

Yep. Two more hours on the LT Parker. He must be getting close to his
10 hours service on the Yamaha.


We went out on the new boat this morning... Pulled out of the slip at
9am, picked up a friend at his lake house at 10am, the went to
Spinners for brunch.
http://spinnersresort.com/

Ate brunch there, then cruised the lake, checked out a couple of
marinas up the river, messed around until late afternoon. Dropped him
off about 6pm, covered the boat up back at the slip about 7:30pm.

Saw an old Starcraft boat... all aluminum, it was pretty cool. Also
saw another Premier pontoon with a Yamaha 350 on it (!).




A 350? Damn! Can they be fitted with twins?

[email protected] June 2nd 09 04:07 AM

Another day of...
 
On Jun 1, 7:52*pm, D K wrote:
wrote:
On May 31, 7:42 pm, D K wrote:
jim78 wrote:
HK wrote:
...boating, something the majority of posters here don't do.
Right, fellas?
:)
You must be proud as a peacock.
Yep. *Two more hours on the LT Parker. *He must be getting close to his
10 hours service on the Yamaha.


We went out on the new boat this morning... Pulled out of the slip at
9am, picked up a friend at his lake house at 10am, the went to
Spinners for brunch.
http://spinnersresort.com/


Ate brunch there, then cruised the lake, checked out a couple of
marinas up the river, messed around until late afternoon. *Dropped him
off about 6pm, covered the boat up back at the slip about 7:30pm.


Saw an old Starcraft boat... all aluminum, it was pretty cool. *Also
saw another Premier pontoon with a Yamaha 350 on it (!).


A 350? *Damn! *Can they be fitted with twins?


The local dealer has one... a 10' wide deck 28 footer... that has twin
225s on it. It seems like it was $72k. Pretty cool, it doesn't have
a swim ladder. It just has maybe 4 foot wide"steps" in the center of
the "transom" that lead down to the water.


[email protected] June 2nd 09 04:38 AM

Another day of...
 
On Jun 1, 4:12*pm, Richard Casady wrote:
On Sun, 31 May 2009 18:12:40 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
Saw an old Starcraft boat... all aluminum, it was pretty cool. *Also
saw another Premier pontoon with a Yamaha 350 on it (!).


I have an 1979 Starcraft 22 foot cuddy with a big 226 inch four. No
corrosion, the paint is shot. It has been outdoors the whole time.
I remember when aluminum and fiberglass were considered a no
maintainance *miracle. Fifty years has proven that true. Back then,
most boats were wood.

Three grand with a new head gasket. I would take it from Iowa to
Halifax, through the Lakes, if it had some V to the bottom. Damn near
flat which is fast and non tippy at anchor. Just what you want for a
fish/ski.

Casady


That's what we saw... it was the cuddy, don't know what year. Either
they had stripped the paint, or there was a model without, because
that thing hurt your eyes. It looked like an old airstream trailer
with pretty much all bare aluminum. Gleaming, and way cool.

I remember my dad having an aluminum boat when I was a kid. It had a
Mercury 115 "tower of power" on it, an open area under the front of
the boat (windshield forward), and the cables that ran from a "pulley"
attached to the steering wheel that ran down the sides of the boat to
the motor. This was in the late 60's, but he sold it when I was less
than ten. After seeing some pics of some on the net, I'm wondering if
it was an old Starcraft? I'll have to ask him next time I talk to
him. He'll be 82 on the 11th of this month. :-)

Richard Casady June 2nd 09 12:45 PM

Another day of...
 
On Mon, 1 Jun 2009 20:07:24 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On Jun 1, 7:52*pm, D K wrote:
wrote:
On May 31, 7:42 pm, D K wrote:
jim78 wrote:
HK wrote:
...boating, something the majority of posters here don't do.
Right, fellas?
:)
You must be proud as a peacock.
Yep. *Two more hours on the LT Parker. *He must be getting close to his
10 hours service on the Yamaha.


We went out on the new boat this morning... Pulled out of the slip at
9am, picked up a friend at his lake house at 10am, the went to
Spinners for brunch.
http://spinnersresort.com/

Ate brunch there, then cruised the lake, checked out a couple of
marinas up the river, messed around until late afternoon. *Dropped him
off about 6pm, covered the boat up back at the slip about 7:30pm.


Saw an old Starcraft boat... all aluminum, it was pretty cool. *Also
saw another Premier pontoon with a Yamaha 350 on it (!).


A 350? *Damn! *Can they be fitted with twins?


The local dealer has one... a 10' wide deck 28 footer... that has twin
225s on it. It seems like it was $72k. Pretty cool, it doesn't have
a swim ladder. It just has maybe 4 foot wide"steps" in the center of
the "transom" that lead down to the water.


I am thinking of adding a fold down ladder, at the transom, to my 22
ft cuddy. Like to be able to fall over the side without having to die
for it.

Casady

HK June 2nd 09 12:48 PM

Another day of...
 
Richard Casady wrote:
On Mon, 1 Jun 2009 20:07:24 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On Jun 1, 7:52 pm, D K wrote:
wrote:
On May 31, 7:42 pm, D K wrote:
jim78 wrote:
HK wrote:
...boating, something the majority of posters here don't do.
Right, fellas?
:)
You must be proud as a peacock.
Yep. Two more hours on the LT Parker. He must be getting close to his
10 hours service on the Yamaha.
We went out on the new boat this morning... Pulled out of the slip at
9am, picked up a friend at his lake house at 10am, the went to
Spinners for brunch.
http://spinnersresort.com/
Ate brunch there, then cruised the lake, checked out a couple of
marinas up the river, messed around until late afternoon. Dropped him
off about 6pm, covered the boat up back at the slip about 7:30pm.
Saw an old Starcraft boat... all aluminum, it was pretty cool. Also
saw another Premier pontoon with a Yamaha 350 on it (!).
A 350? Damn! Can they be fitted with twins?

The local dealer has one... a 10' wide deck 28 footer... that has twin
225s on it. It seems like it was $72k. Pretty cool, it doesn't have
a swim ladder. It just has maybe 4 foot wide"steps" in the center of
the "transom" that lead down to the water.


I am thinking of adding a fold down ladder, at the transom, to my 22
ft cuddy. Like to be able to fall over the side without having to die
for it.

Casady



Well, then, it's probably better to fall into the water than onto an
asphalt or concrete driveway... :)

Richard Casady June 2nd 09 12:55 PM

Another day of...
 
On Mon, 1 Jun 2009 20:38:07 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

remember my dad having an aluminum boat when I was a kid. It had a
Mercury 115 "tower of power"


Neightbor has a aluminum boat since 1970 or so. Has a tall Merc 100
hp. I am pretty sure he pull starts it. I have started a 109
Graymarine by stomping on a crank stuck in a nut on the front of the
crankshaft. Started first kick every time. We trashed the starter
when the key stuck at start. Got a cream separator crank at a
junkyard, and put a cross pin in the end of it. We swapped in a Buick
V-6 and lost that capability. A friend had one of the first of the
Land Cruisers and it had a crank, as did my Land Rover. Why don't all
the smaller cars have one?

Casady

jim78 June 2nd 09 01:00 PM

Another day of...
 
HK wrote:
Richard Casady wrote:
On Mon, 1 Jun 2009 20:07:24 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On Jun 1, 7:52 pm, D K wrote:
wrote:
On May 31, 7:42 pm, D K wrote:
jim78 wrote:
HK wrote:
...boating, something the majority of posters here don't do.
Right, fellas?
:)
You must be proud as a peacock.
Yep. Two more hours on the LT Parker. He must be getting close
to his
10 hours service on the Yamaha.
We went out on the new boat this morning... Pulled out of the slip at
9am, picked up a friend at his lake house at 10am, the went to
Spinners for brunch.
http://spinnersresort.com/
Ate brunch there, then cruised the lake, checked out a couple of
marinas up the river, messed around until late afternoon. Dropped him
off about 6pm, covered the boat up back at the slip about 7:30pm.
Saw an old Starcraft boat... all aluminum, it was pretty cool. Also
saw another Premier pontoon with a Yamaha 350 on it (!).
A 350? Damn! Can they be fitted with twins?
The local dealer has one... a 10' wide deck 28 footer... that has twin
225s on it. It seems like it was $72k. Pretty cool, it doesn't have
a swim ladder. It just has maybe 4 foot wide"steps" in the center of
the "transom" that lead down to the water.


I am thinking of adding a fold down ladder, at the transom, to my 22
ft cuddy. Like to be able to fall over the side without having to die
for it.

Casady



Well, then, it's probably better to fall into the water than onto an
asphalt or concrete driveway... :)


Well now, that depends.

HK June 2nd 09 01:00 PM

Another day of...
 
Richard Casady wrote:
On Mon, 1 Jun 2009 20:38:07 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

remember my dad having an aluminum boat when I was a kid. It had a
Mercury 115 "tower of power"


Neightbor has a aluminum boat since 1970 or so. Has a tall Merc 100
hp. I am pretty sure he pull starts it. I have started a 109
Graymarine by stomping on a crank stuck in a nut on the front of the
crankshaft. Started first kick every time. We trashed the starter
when the key stuck at start. Got a cream separator crank at a
junkyard, and put a cross pin in the end of it. We swapped in a Buick
V-6 and lost that capability. A friend had one of the first of the
Land Cruisers and it had a crank, as did my Land Rover. Why don't all
the smaller cars have one?

Casady



Because a crank wouldn't start a modern car, even a small one, without
significant changes under the hood?


jim78 June 2nd 09 01:01 PM

Another day of...
 
jim78 wrote:
HK wrote:
Richard Casady wrote:
On Mon, 1 Jun 2009 20:07:24 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On Jun 1, 7:52 pm, D K wrote:
wrote:
On May 31, 7:42 pm, D K wrote:
jim78 wrote:
HK wrote:
...boating, something the majority of posters here don't do.
Right, fellas?
:)
You must be proud as a peacock.
Yep. Two more hours on the LT Parker. He must be getting close
to his
10 hours service on the Yamaha.
We went out on the new boat this morning... Pulled out of the slip at
9am, picked up a friend at his lake house at 10am, the went to
Spinners for brunch.
http://spinnersresort.com/
Ate brunch there, then cruised the lake, checked out a couple of
marinas up the river, messed around until late afternoon. Dropped
him
off about 6pm, covered the boat up back at the slip about 7:30pm.
Saw an old Starcraft boat... all aluminum, it was pretty cool. Also
saw another Premier pontoon with a Yamaha 350 on it (!).
A 350? Damn! Can they be fitted with twins?
The local dealer has one... a 10' wide deck 28 footer... that has twin
225s on it. It seems like it was $72k. Pretty cool, it doesn't have
a swim ladder. It just has maybe 4 foot wide"steps" in the center of
the "transom" that lead down to the water.

I am thinking of adding a fold down ladder, at the transom, to my 22
ft cuddy. Like to be able to fall over the side without having to die
for it.

Casady



Well, then, it's probably better to fall into the water than onto an
asphalt or concrete driveway... :)


Well now, that depends.


On what might be lurking about in the water.

jim78 June 2nd 09 01:23 PM

Another day of...
 
HK wrote:
Richard Casady wrote:
On Mon, 1 Jun 2009 20:38:07 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

remember my dad having an aluminum boat when I was a kid. It had a
Mercury 115 "tower of power"


Neightbor has a aluminum boat since 1970 or so. Has a tall Merc 100
hp. I am pretty sure he pull starts it. I have started a 109
Graymarine by stomping on a crank stuck in a nut on the front of the
crankshaft. Started first kick every time. We trashed the starter
when the key stuck at start. Got a cream separator crank at a
junkyard, and put a cross pin in the end of it. We swapped in a Buick
V-6 and lost that capability. A friend had one of the first of the
Land Cruisers and it had a crank, as did my Land Rover. Why don't all
the smaller cars have one?

Casady



Because a crank wouldn't start a modern car, even a small one, without
significant changes under the hood?


What kind of changes?

Wizard of Woodstock June 2nd 09 01:38 PM

Another day of...
 
On Mon, 1 Jun 2009 20:07:24 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On Jun 1, 7:52*pm, D K wrote:
wrote:
On May 31, 7:42 pm, D K wrote:
jim78 wrote:
HK wrote:
...boating, something the majority of posters here don't do.
Right, fellas?
:)
You must be proud as a peacock.
Yep. *Two more hours on the LT Parker. *He must be getting close to his
10 hours service on the Yamaha.


We went out on the new boat this morning... Pulled out of the slip at
9am, picked up a friend at his lake house at 10am, the went to
Spinners for brunch.
http://spinnersresort.com/

Ate brunch there, then cruised the lake, checked out a couple of
marinas up the river, messed around until late afternoon. *Dropped him
off about 6pm, covered the boat up back at the slip about 7:30pm.


Saw an old Starcraft boat... all aluminum, it was pretty cool. *Also
saw another Premier pontoon with a Yamaha 350 on it (!).


A 350? *Damn! *Can they be fitted with twins?


The local dealer has one... a 10' wide deck 28 footer... that has twin
225s on it. It seems like it was $72k. Pretty cool, it doesn't have
a swim ladder. It just has maybe 4 foot wide"steps" in the center of
the "transom" that lead down to the water.


Last summer, I had to get a replacement fuel filter for the ETEC - I
had sucked up some crud off the bottom of the fuel tank - I had run it
lower than I normally do.

Anyway, the Evinrude dealer over in Ballentine (I think it was
Ballentine - off of Dutch Fork Road) had a Bentley (again, I think it
was a Bentley) 28 footer with twin 250 ETECs on it.

Very tempting. :)

I saw a Bennington up on Webster Lake yesterday that had a 300 Verado
on it.

[email protected] June 2nd 09 01:42 PM

Another day of...
 
On Jun 2, 8:00*am, HK wrote:
Richard Casady wrote:
On Mon, 1 Jun 2009 20:38:07 -0700 (PDT), wrote:


remember my dad having an aluminum boat when I was a kid. *It had a
Mercury 115 "tower of power"


Neightbor has a aluminum boat since 1970 or so. Has a tall Merc 100
hp. I am pretty sure he pull starts it. I have started a 109
Graymarine by stomping on a crank stuck in a nut on the front of the
crankshaft. *Started first kick every time. We trashed the starter
when the key stuck at start. Got a cream separator crank at a
junkyard, and put a cross pin in the end of it. We swapped in a Buick
V-6 and lost that capability. A friend had one of the first of the
Land Cruisers and it had a crank, as did my Land Rover. Why don't all
the smaller cars have one?


Casady


Because a crank wouldn't start a modern car, even a small one, without
significant changes under the hood?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Holy ****! This from someone who claimed at one time to have a
mechanical engineering degree!!! Why wouldn't a crank start a "modern
car"? With electronic ignition and fuel injection "modern cars" start
much easier than carberator and points/condenser engines.

jim78 June 2nd 09 02:46 PM

Another day of...
 
wrote:
On Jun 2, 8:00 am, HK wrote:
Richard Casady wrote:
On Mon, 1 Jun 2009 20:38:07 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
remember my dad having an aluminum boat when I was a kid. It had a
Mercury 115 "tower of power"
Neightbor has a aluminum boat since 1970 or so. Has a tall Merc 100
hp. I am pretty sure he pull starts it. I have started a 109
Graymarine by stomping on a crank stuck in a nut on the front of the
crankshaft. Started first kick every time. We trashed the starter
when the key stuck at start. Got a cream separator crank at a
junkyard, and put a cross pin in the end of it. We swapped in a Buick
V-6 and lost that capability. A friend had one of the first of the
Land Cruisers and it had a crank, as did my Land Rover. Why don't all
the smaller cars have one?
Casady

Because a crank wouldn't start a modern car, even a small one, without
significant changes under the hood?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Holy ****! This from someone who claimed at one time to have a
mechanical engineering degree!!! Why wouldn't a crank start a "modern
car"? With electronic ignition and fuel injection "modern cars" start
much easier than carberator and points/condenser engines.


I love it when Harry hints at being knowledgeable about something. He is
such a doofus.

D K[_4_] June 3rd 09 12:31 AM

Another day of...
 
wrote:

We went out on the new boat this morning... Pulled out of the slip at
9am, picked up a friend at his lake house at 10am, the went to
Spinners for brunch.
http://spinnersresort.com/
Ate brunch there, then cruised the lake, checked out a couple of
marinas up the river, messed around until late afternoon. Dropped him
off about 6pm, covered the boat up back at the slip about 7:30pm.
Saw an old Starcraft boat... all aluminum, it was pretty cool. Also
saw another Premier pontoon with a Yamaha 350 on it (!).

A 350? Damn! Can they be fitted with twins?


The local dealer has one... a 10' wide deck 28 footer... that has twin
225s on it. It seems like it was $72k. Pretty cool, it doesn't have
a swim ladder. It just has maybe 4 foot wide"steps" in the center of
the "transom" that lead down to the water.


I was thinking something along the lines of twin 115's would be better
than a 350 in the middle. Twin 225's must be beyond the rated limit!

D K[_4_] June 3rd 09 12:35 AM

Another day of...
 
jim78 wrote:
HK wrote:
Richard Casady wrote:
On Mon, 1 Jun 2009 20:38:07 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

remember my dad having an aluminum boat when I was a kid. It had a
Mercury 115 "tower of power"

Neightbor has a aluminum boat since 1970 or so. Has a tall Merc 100
hp. I am pretty sure he pull starts it. I have started a 109
Graymarine by stomping on a crank stuck in a nut on the front of the
crankshaft. Started first kick every time. We trashed the starter
when the key stuck at start. Got a cream separator crank at a
junkyard, and put a cross pin in the end of it. We swapped in a Buick
V-6 and lost that capability. A friend had one of the first of the
Land Cruisers and it had a crank, as did my Land Rover. Why don't all
the smaller cars have one?

Casady



Because a crank wouldn't start a modern car, even a small one, without
significant changes under the hood?


What kind of changes?


He has no idea. He's just punching away at his keyboard.


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