On Thu, 21 May 2009 16:22:56 -0400, Wizard of Woodstock
wrote:


Let me ask you - do you use Wiha tools? Probably because the Felo
tools are crappy.

Um..the Wiha metal working is done in Vietnam.

Looks like you're full of ****, eh?

Know what a bit is?

http://www.wiha.com/england/Informat...ring-locations

On Thu, 21 May 2009 12:06:25 -0700, jps wrote:

On Thu, 21 May 2009 14:35:18 -0400, Wizard of Woodstock
wrote:

Such a patriotic American as you patronizing walmart?

Sad.

Damn straight - good stuff at good prices.

Never had one break on me either.

And I'd bet dollars to donuts that the "fine German screwdrivers" are
made in another country other than Germany - probably China.

Swiss Army Knife bladed and featured tools are made by Hyde
Manufacturing and used to be built in Southbridge, MA until Hyde moved
their metal operations to India. :)

I can buy an SAK at Wal-Mart cheaper than anywhere else.

Cheap **** at discount prices. Ask the poor ****ers in Florida how
that sheetrock is working out.

I didn't give a **** where the screwdrivers were made, although I'd
have much preferred they had been made in America. "Precision"
Chinese tools are cheap ****. They're made for hobbyists like you. We
have a professional bench that assembles tens of thousands of parts a
year. They need proper tools.

The real Swiss Army blades are manufactuered by Wenger in Switzerland.
Based on your shopping descretion, I'm sure a knock off works.

You're part of the population that doesn't give a **** if Americans
have jobs. All our manufacturing will end up overseas and we'll have
more poor and uneducated by percentage than India.

Nice going, patriot.

Being called names by jps and/or HK is a badge of honor.

They must not have understood the absolute hilarity of this thread.
--

John H

On Thu, 21 May 2009 12:59:15 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

What amazes me is that there's a good bet the steel used in the
chinese screwdrivers are of as good or better quality than the german
made ones! Just because an item is expensive doesn't make it good.
I've actually been to the plant in S.C. where Craftman cordless tools
were being made. When it comes time to put the guts into the case, the
line divides in two. Why? Because one side gets Craftman cases, the
other, Ryobi! Same EXACT tools otherwise! SO, now I go to Home Depot
and buy Ryobi cordless tools. They work great. Almost as good as if
I'd bought Craftman for twice as much!

The guys down at Foskett Equipment had to buy a small leveling table
and a leveling vice so they put out a bid and bought a table and vice
from an American source - I don't remember which one at the moment,
(might have been Waldron/Stevens) but when they arrived, the surface
was pitted and definetly unlevel by a significant margin of error in
both the table and vice.

They went to Northern Supply and looked at the same two pieces made in
China - perfect surface, perfectly level and high quality at half the
price.

Go figure. :)

On Thu, 21 May 2009 18:46:21 -0400, Wizard of Woodstock
wrote:

On Thu, 21 May 2009 12:59:15 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

What amazes me is that there's a good bet the steel used in the
chinese screwdrivers are of as good or better quality than the german
made ones! Just because an item is expensive doesn't make it good.
I've actually been to the plant in S.C. where Craftman cordless tools
were being made. When it comes time to put the guts into the case, the
line divides in two. Why? Because one side gets Craftman cases, the
other, Ryobi! Same EXACT tools otherwise! SO, now I go to Home Depot
and buy Ryobi cordless tools. They work great. Almost as good as if
I'd bought Craftman for twice as much!

The guys down at Foskett Equipment had to buy a small leveling table
and a leveling vice so they put out a bid and bought a table and vice
from an American source - I don't remember which one at the moment,
(might have been Waldron/Stevens) but when they arrived, the surface
was pitted and definetly unlevel by a significant margin of error in
both the table and vice.

They went to Northern Supply and looked at the same two pieces made in
China - perfect surface, perfectly level and high quality at half the
price.

Go figure. :)

Tell that to the folks in Florida whose houses are deteriorating from
the sulfur-filled Chinese sheetrock or the parents of kids who've been
sucking on lead paint toys or dog owners whose pets were poisoned by
Chinese product.

Go to walmart, buy their ****, put your own country out of business.

Don White wrote:
"jps" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 21 May 2009 14:35:18 -0400, Wizard of Woodstock
wrote:

Such a patriotic American as you patronizing walmart?

Sad.
Damn straight - good stuff at good prices.

Never had one break on me either.

And I'd bet dollars to donuts that the "fine German screwdrivers" are
made in another country other than Germany - probably China.

Swiss Army Knife bladed and featured tools are made by Hyde
Manufacturing and used to be built in Southbridge, MA until Hyde moved
their metal operations to India. :)

I can buy an SAK at Wal-Mart cheaper than anywhere else.
Cheap **** at discount prices. Ask the poor ****ers in Florida how
that sheetrock is working out.

I didn't give a **** where the screwdrivers were made, although I'd
have much preferred they had been made in America. "Precision"
Chinese tools are cheap ****. They're made for hobbyists like you. We
have a professional bench that assembles tens of thousands of parts a
year. They need proper tools.

The real Swiss Army blades are manufactuered by Wenger in Switzerland.
Based on your shopping descretion, I'm sure a knock off works.

You're part of the population that doesn't give a **** if Americans
have jobs. All our manufacturing will end up overseas and we'll have
more poor and uneducated by percentage than India.

Nice going, patriot.

I believe the 'Swiss Army knives/watches/flashlights are made by Victorinox
of Switzerland http://www.victorinox.ch/
As I heard it, the Wenger guy is a brother who competed using the Swiss Army
title.
Someone told me that after an agreement, Wenger would use the 'Swiss
Military' brand name, but looking at their website....this doesn't seem to
be the case. http://www.wengerna.com/
Confusing!



To an imbecile that would be very confusing.

On Thu, 21 May 2009 15:56:52 -0700, jps wrote:

On Thu, 21 May 2009 18:46:21 -0400, Wizard of Woodstock
wrote:

On Thu, 21 May 2009 12:59:15 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

What amazes me is that there's a good bet the steel used in the
chinese screwdrivers are of as good or better quality than the german
made ones! Just because an item is expensive doesn't make it good.
I've actually been to the plant in S.C. where Craftman cordless tools
were being made. When it comes time to put the guts into the case, the
line divides in two. Why? Because one side gets Craftman cases, the
other, Ryobi! Same EXACT tools otherwise! SO, now I go to Home Depot
and buy Ryobi cordless tools. They work great. Almost as good as if
I'd bought Craftman for twice as much!

The guys down at Foskett Equipment had to buy a small leveling table
and a leveling vice so they put out a bid and bought a table and vice
from an American source - I don't remember which one at the moment,
(might have been Waldron/Stevens) but when they arrived, the surface
was pitted and definetly unlevel by a significant margin of error in
both the table and vice.

They went to Northern Supply and looked at the same two pieces made in
China - perfect surface, perfectly level and high quality at half the
price.

Go figure. :)

Tell that to the folks in Florida whose houses are deteriorating from
the sulfur-filled Chinese sheetrock or the parents of kids who've been
sucking on lead paint toys or dog owners whose pets were poisoned by
Chinese product.

Go to walmart, buy their ****, put your own country out of business.

Look in your own back yard:

jps started the day early having set his alarm clock
(MADE IN JAPAN)
for 6am.
While his coffeepot
(MADE IN CHINA)
was perking, he shaved with his electric razor
(MADE IN HONG KONG)
He put on a dress shirt
(MADE IN SRI LANKA),
designer jeans
(MADE IN SINGAPORE)
and tennis shoes
(MADE IN KOREA)
After cooking his breakfast in his new electric skillet
(MADE IN INDIA)
he sat down with his
calculator
(MADE IN MEXICO)
to see how much he could spend today.
After setting his watch
(MADE IN TAIWAN)
to the radio
(MADE IN INDIA)
he got in his car
(MADE IN GERMANY)
filled it with GAS
(from Saudi Arabia)
and continued to berate those who shopped at Wal Mart.

At the end of yet another discouraging
and fruitless day checking his Computer
(Made In Malaysia),
jps decided to relax for a while.
He put on his sandals
(MADE IN BRAZIL)
poured himself a glass of wine
(MADE IN FRANCE)
and turned on his TV
(MADE IN INDONESIA),
and then wondered why people didn't BUY AMERICA!

--

John H

John H wrote:
On Thu, 21 May 2009 15:56:52 -0700, jps wrote:

On Thu, 21 May 2009 18:46:21 -0400, Wizard of Woodstock
wrote:

On Thu, 21 May 2009 12:59:15 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

What amazes me is that there's a good bet the steel used in the
chinese screwdrivers are of as good or better quality than the german
made ones! Just because an item is expensive doesn't make it good.
I've actually been to the plant in S.C. where Craftman cordless tools
were being made. When it comes time to put the guts into the case, the
line divides in two. Why? Because one side gets Craftman cases, the
other, Ryobi! Same EXACT tools otherwise! SO, now I go to Home Depot
and buy Ryobi cordless tools. They work great. Almost as good as if
I'd bought Craftman for twice as much!
The guys down at Foskett Equipment had to buy a small leveling table
and a leveling vice so they put out a bid and bought a table and vice
from an American source - I don't remember which one at the moment,
(might have been Waldron/Stevens) but when they arrived, the surface
was pitted and definetly unlevel by a significant margin of error in
both the table and vice.

They went to Northern Supply and looked at the same two pieces made in
China - perfect surface, perfectly level and high quality at half the
price.

Go figure. :)
Tell that to the folks in Florida whose houses are deteriorating from
the sulfur-filled Chinese sheetrock or the parents of kids who've been
sucking on lead paint toys or dog owners whose pets were poisoned by
Chinese product.

Go to walmart, buy their ****, put your own country out of business.

Look in your own back yard:

jps started the day early having set his alarm clock
(MADE IN JAPAN)
for 6am.
While his coffeepot
(MADE IN CHINA)
was perking, he shaved with his electric razor
(MADE IN HONG KONG)
He put on a dress shirt
(MADE IN SRI LANKA),
designer jeans
(MADE IN SINGAPORE)
and tennis shoes
(MADE IN KOREA)
After cooking his breakfast in his new electric skillet
(MADE IN INDIA)
he sat down with his
calculator
(MADE IN MEXICO)
to see how much he could spend today.
After setting his watch
(MADE IN TAIWAN)
to the radio
(MADE IN INDIA)
he got in his car
(MADE IN GERMANY)
filled it with GAS
(from Saudi Arabia)
and continued to berate those who shopped at Wal Mart.

At the end of yet another discouraging
and fruitless day checking his Computer
(Made In Malaysia),
jps decided to relax for a while.
He put on his sandals
(MADE IN BRAZIL)
poured himself a glass of wine
(MADE IN FRANCE)
and turned on his TV
(MADE IN INDONESIA),
and then wondered why people didn't BUY AMERICA!

--

John H

Harry and JPS. Two peas in a pod.

On Thu, 21 May 2009 21:48:44 -0400, jim7856 wrote:



Harry and JPS. Two peas in a pod.

True.

BTW, did Scotty ever figure out what he was being blamed for? I note
the problem's been fixed.
--

John H

On May 21, 9:42*pm, John H wrote:
On Thu, 21 May 2009 15:56:52 -0700, jps wrote:
On Thu, 21 May 2009 18:46:21 -0400, Wizard of Woodstock
wrote:

On Thu, 21 May 2009 12:59:15 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

What amazes me is that there's a good bet the steel used in the
chinese screwdrivers are of as good or better quality than the german
made ones! Just because an item is expensive doesn't make it good.
I've actually been to the plant in S.C. where Craftman cordless tools
were being made. When it comes time to put the guts into the case, the
line divides in two. Why? Because one side gets Craftman cases, the
other, Ryobi! Same EXACT tools otherwise! SO, now I go to Home Depot
and buy Ryobi cordless tools. They work great. Almost as good as if
I'd bought Craftman for twice as much!

The guys down at Foskett Equipment had to buy a small leveling table
and a leveling vice so they put out a bid and bought a table and vice
from an American source - I don't remember which one at the moment,
(might have been Waldron/Stevens) but when they arrived, the surface
was pitted and definetly unlevel by a significant margin of error in
both the table and vice.

They went to Northern Supply and looked at the same two pieces made in
China - perfect surface, perfectly level and high quality at half the
price.

Go figure. *:)

Tell that to the folks in Florida whose houses are deteriorating from
the sulfur-filled Chinese sheetrock or the parents of kids who've been
sucking on lead paint toys or dog owners whose pets were poisoned by
Chinese product.

Go to walmart, buy their ****, put your own country out of business.

Look in your own back yard:

jps started the day early having set his alarm clock
(MADE IN JAPAN)
for 6am.
While his coffeepot
(MADE IN CHINA)
was perking, he shaved with his electric razor
(MADE IN HONG KONG)
He put on a dress shirt
(MADE IN SRI LANKA),
designer jeans
(MADE IN SINGAPORE)
and tennis shoes
(MADE IN KOREA)
After cooking his breakfast in his new electric skillet
(MADE IN INDIA)
he sat down with his
calculator
(MADE IN MEXICO)
to see how much he could spend today.
After setting his watch
(MADE IN TAIWAN)
to the radio
(MADE IN INDIA)
he got in his car
(MADE IN GERMANY)
filled it with GAS
(from Saudi Arabia)
and continued to berate those who shopped at Wal Mart.

At the end of yet another discouraging
and fruitless day checking his Computer
(Made In Malaysia),
jps decided to relax for a while.
He put on his sandals
(MADE IN BRAZIL)
poured himself a glass of wine
(MADE IN FRANCE)
and turned on his TV
(MADE IN INDONESIA),
and then wondered why people didn't BUY AMERICA!

--

John H- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

You forgot about his lunch. Pork from Mexico, vegetables from South
America, and fruits from Equador

On Fri, 22 May 2009 06:31:16 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On May 21, 9:42*pm, John H wrote:
On Thu, 21 May 2009 15:56:52 -0700, jps wrote:
On Thu, 21 May 2009 18:46:21 -0400, Wizard of Woodstock
wrote:

On Thu, 21 May 2009 12:59:15 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

What amazes me is that there's a good bet the steel used in the
chinese screwdrivers are of as good or better quality than the german
made ones! Just because an item is expensive doesn't make it good.
I've actually been to the plant in S.C. where Craftman cordless tools
were being made. When it comes time to put the guts into the case, the
line divides in two. Why? Because one side gets Craftman cases, the
other, Ryobi! Same EXACT tools otherwise! SO, now I go to Home Depot
and buy Ryobi cordless tools. They work great. Almost as good as if
I'd bought Craftman for twice as much!

The guys down at Foskett Equipment had to buy a small leveling table
and a leveling vice so they put out a bid and bought a table and vice
from an American source - I don't remember which one at the moment,
(might have been Waldron/Stevens) but when they arrived, the surface
was pitted and definetly unlevel by a significant margin of error in
both the table and vice.

They went to Northern Supply and looked at the same two pieces made in
China - perfect surface, perfectly level and high quality at half the
price.

Go figure. *:)

Tell that to the folks in Florida whose houses are deteriorating from
the sulfur-filled Chinese sheetrock or the parents of kids who've been
sucking on lead paint toys or dog owners whose pets were poisoned by
Chinese product.

Go to walmart, buy their ****, put your own country out of business.

Look in your own back yard:

jps started the day early having set his alarm clock
(MADE IN JAPAN)
for 6am.
While his coffeepot
(MADE IN CHINA)
was perking, he shaved with his electric razor
(MADE IN HONG KONG)
He put on a dress shirt
(MADE IN SRI LANKA),
designer jeans
(MADE IN SINGAPORE)
and tennis shoes
(MADE IN KOREA)
After cooking his breakfast in his new electric skillet
(MADE IN INDIA)
he sat down with his
calculator
(MADE IN MEXICO)
to see how much he could spend today.
After setting his watch
(MADE IN TAIWAN)
to the radio
(MADE IN INDIA)
he got in his car
(MADE IN GERMANY)
filled it with GAS
(from Saudi Arabia)
and continued to berate those who shopped at Wal Mart.

At the end of yet another discouraging
and fruitless day checking his Computer
(Made In Malaysia),
jps decided to relax for a while.
He put on his sandals
(MADE IN BRAZIL)
poured himself a glass of wine
(MADE IN FRANCE)
and turned on his TV
(MADE IN INDONESIA),
and then wondered why people didn't BUY AMERICA!

--

John H- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

You forgot about his lunch. Pork from Mexico, vegetables from South
America, and fruits from Equador

I thought his favorite fruit came from Nova Scotia and drove a pink
Rav4.
--

John H