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On Tue, 19 May 2009 11:59:41 -0400, HK wrote:

I wouldn't take a
Disney cruise if you paid me because of the number of uncontrolled
rugrats onboard.

Try Holland America. Few kids, lots of basically harmless geezers.

Casady

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Richard Casady wrote:
On Tue, 19 May 2009 11:59:41 -0400, HK wrote:

I wouldn't take a
Disney cruise if you paid me because of the number of uncontrolled
rugrats onboard.

Try Holland America. Few kids, lots of basically harmless geezers.

Casady

We're going on a National Geo/Linblad cruise. Small ship, interesting
itinerary, knowledgeable guides.

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On Tue, 26 May 2009 10:27:14 -0500, Richard Casady
wrote:

On Tue, 19 May 2009 11:59:41 -0400, HK wrote:

I wouldn't take a
Disney cruise if you paid me because of the number of uncontrolled
rugrats onboard.

Try Holland America. Few kids, lots of basically harmless geezers.

Casady

Harry knows nothing of Disney cruises. Although they are not designed
for kid-haters, like Krause, they offer some great features. I've been
on two and would go again in a minute. Escaping the kids, if that's
your desire, is easy. Just go to an adult only section of the ship.
--

John H

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On May 26, 11:38*am, HK wrote:
Richard Casady wrote:
On Tue, 19 May 2009 11:59:41 -0400, HK wrote:

I wouldn't take a
Disney cruise if you paid me because of the number of uncontrolled
rugrats onboard.

Try Holland America. Few kids, lots of basically harmless geezers.

Casady

We're going on a National Geo/Linblad cruise. Small ship, interesting
itinerary, knowledgeable guides.

Yeah, we believe you.....NOT. Hey, why not just take your lobster boat?

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On May 26, 1:41*pm, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Tue, 26 May 2009 10:27:14 -0500, Richard Casady
wrote:

On Tue, 19 May 2009 11:59:41 -0400, HK wrote:

I wouldn't take a
Disney cruise if you paid me because of the number of uncontrolled
rugrats onboard.
Try Holland America. Few kids, lots of basically harmless geezers.

Casady

Second that, Far better than any of *the "family" cruise ships
(Disney, Carnival etc)
We did a 7 day on the Noorham that was great.
Destiny, Fantasy (Carnival)... not so much.
For one thing you are totally isolated from being at sea on the
Carnival boats. It is real hard to find a place where you can actually
see it. Walking down the main hall in the Destiny is like being inside
a pinball machine. There are chase lights in the floor and constant
"bing bong" sounds coming from the casino. The only way I got up near
the bow was to hang out with the band and get up there through the
crew compartment one night.

On the Noordham you feel like a passenger on a ship. The Crow's nest
bar is really cool. They keep the lights dimmed and there is a place
right at the bow with a big binnacle compass. From the 04 deck (or so)
you really get a sense that this is a ship moving through the water.

That's one of the appealing factors of the National Geo cruises...the
ships look like...ships, not like...wedding cakes. Nor do they have the
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How do you tell what the ship looks like when you are on it?

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On Tue, 26 May 2009 13:36:34 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 26 May 2009 10:27:14 -0500, Richard Casady
wrote:

On Tue, 19 May 2009 11:59:41 -0400, HK wrote:

I wouldn't take a
Disney cruise if you paid me because of the number of uncontrolled
rugrats onboard.

Try Holland America. Few kids, lots of basically harmless geezers.

Casady

Second that, Far better than any of the "family" cruise ships
(Disney, Carnival etc)
We did a 7 day on the Noorham that was great.
Destiny, Fantasy (Carnival)... not so much.
For one thing you are totally isolated from being at sea on the
Carnival boats. It is real hard to find a place where you can actually
see it. Walking down the main hall in the Destiny is like being inside
a pinball machine. There are chase lights in the floor and constant
"bing bong" sounds coming from the casino. The only way I got up near
the bow was to hang out with the band and get up there through the
crew compartment one night.

On the Noordham you feel like a passenger on a ship. The Crow's nest
bar is really cool. They keep the lights dimmed and there is a place
right at the bow with a big binnacle compass. From the 04 deck (or so)
you really get a sense that this is a ship moving through the water.

Here's what a real cruise ship should look like.

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l2...sney07b274.jpg

The lifeboat deck is open, as is the bow and stern.
--

John H

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On May 26, 2:57*pm, John H wrote:
On Tue, 26 May 2009 13:36:34 -0400, wrote:
On Tue, 26 May 2009 10:27:14 -0500, Richard Casady
wrote:

On Tue, 19 May 2009 11:59:41 -0400, HK wrote:

I wouldn't take a
Disney cruise if you paid me because of the number of uncontrolled
rugrats onboard.

Try Holland America. Few kids, lots of basically harmless geezers.

Casady

Second that, Far better than any of *the "family" cruise ships
(Disney, Carnival etc)
We did a 7 day on the Noorham that was great.
Destiny, Fantasy (Carnival)... not so much.
For one thing you are totally isolated from being at sea on the
Carnival boats. It is real hard to find a place where you can actually
see it. Walking down the main hall in the Destiny is like being inside
a pinball machine. There are chase lights in the floor and constant
"bing bong" sounds coming from the casino. The only way I got up near
the bow was to hang out with the band and get up there through the
crew compartment one night.

On the Noordham you feel like a passenger on a ship. The Crow's nest
bar is really cool. They keep the lights dimmed and there is a place
right at the bow with a big binnacle compass. From the 04 deck (or so)
you really get a sense that this is a ship moving through the water.

Here's what a real cruise ship should look like.

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l2...sney07b274.jpg

The lifeboat deck is open, as is the bow and stern.
--

John H- Hide quoted text -

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I wonder what Harry is talking about? Looks as much like a ship as
about any ship does! Maybe it needs a big notch out of the transom to
take advantage of the cleaning action of following seas!

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wrote:
On May 26, 2:57 pm, John H wrote:
On Tue, 26 May 2009 13:36:34 -0400, wrote:
On Tue, 26 May 2009 10:27:14 -0500, Richard Casady
wrote:
On Tue, 19 May 2009 11:59:41 -0400, HK wrote:
I wouldn't take a
Disney cruise if you paid me because of the number of uncontrolled
rugrats onboard.
Try Holland America. Few kids, lots of basically harmless geezers.
Casady
Second that, Far better than any of the "family" cruise ships
(Disney, Carnival etc)
We did a 7 day on the Noorham that was great.
Destiny, Fantasy (Carnival)... not so much.
For one thing you are totally isolated from being at sea on the
Carnival boats. It is real hard to find a place where you can actually
see it. Walking down the main hall in the Destiny is like being inside
a pinball machine. There are chase lights in the floor and constant
"bing bong" sounds coming from the casino. The only way I got up near
the bow was to hang out with the band and get up there through the
crew compartment one night.
On the Noordham you feel like a passenger on a ship. The Crow's nest
bar is really cool. They keep the lights dimmed and there is a place
right at the bow with a big binnacle compass. From the 04 deck (or so)
you really get a sense that this is a ship moving through the water.
Here's what a real cruise ship should look like.

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l2...sney07b274.jpg

The lifeboat deck is open, as is the bow and stern.
--

John H- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I wonder what Harry is talking about? Looks as much like a ship as
about any ship does! Maybe it needs a big notch out of the transom to
take advantage of the cleaning action of following seas!

Now *that* was funny!

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wrote:
On Tue, 26 May 2009 14:57:04 -0400, John H
wrote:

Second that, Far better than any of the "family" cruise ships
(Disney, Carnival etc)
We did a 7 day on the Noorham that was great.
Destiny, Fantasy (Carnival)... not so much.
For one thing you are totally isolated from being at sea on the
Carnival boats. It is real hard to find a place where you can actually
see it. Walking down the main hall in the Destiny is like being inside
a pinball machine. There are chase lights in the floor and constant
"bing bong" sounds coming from the casino. The only way I got up near
the bow was to hang out with the band and get up there through the
crew compartment one night.

On the Noordham you feel like a passenger on a ship. The Crow's nest
bar is really cool. They keep the lights dimmed and there is a place
right at the bow with a big binnacle compass. From the 04 deck (or so)
you really get a sense that this is a ship moving through the water.
Here's what a real cruise ship should look like.

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l2...sney07b274.jpg

The lifeboat deck is open, as is the bow and stern.
--

Nice looking ship but I bet the passengers can't get out on that
forward deck. Can you actually see out of those windows in front or is
that all for the bridge?

Hard to tell from the photos, but it looks as if only the uppermost deck
is open to the elements and the sea. If so, it's probably to keep all
the kiddies from falling overboard. Nothing quite like being on a cruise
with 2000 of your closest friends, eh?

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On Tue, 26 May 2009 23:05:19 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 26 May 2009 14:57:04 -0400, John H
wrote:

Second that, Far better than any of the "family" cruise ships
(Disney, Carnival etc)
We did a 7 day on the Noorham that was great.
Destiny, Fantasy (Carnival)... not so much.
For one thing you are totally isolated from being at sea on the
Carnival boats. It is real hard to find a place where you can actually
see it. Walking down the main hall in the Destiny is like being inside
a pinball machine. There are chase lights in the floor and constant
"bing bong" sounds coming from the casino. The only way I got up near
the bow was to hang out with the band and get up there through the
crew compartment one night.

On the Noordham you feel like a passenger on a ship. The Crow's nest
bar is really cool. They keep the lights dimmed and there is a place
right at the bow with a big binnacle compass. From the 04 deck (or so)
you really get a sense that this is a ship moving through the water.

Here's what a real cruise ship should look like.

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l2...sney07b274.jpg

The lifeboat deck is open, as is the bow and stern.
--

Nice looking ship but I bet the passengers can't get out on that
forward deck. Can you actually see out of those windows in front or is
that all for the bridge?

The bow is open, the stern is open, the windows in front are for the
bridge, but the deck above the bridge is open. The lifeboat deck is
open except at the bow and stern. This deck is a great place for
jogging or walking.

Here is a good representation of the ship. Click on an area to
enlarge.

http://tinyurl.com/q42myd

Remember, Harry's not been, so you'll see a lot of jealousy there -
and the natural narcissism that comes with HK.
--

John H