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BetaB4 May 23rd 09 03:40 PM

Charging the battery -- how long is okay?
 
Gene wrote:

Cutting to the chase.... it *should*, no, rather, it MUST. Harbor
Freight sells cheap crap made overseas. Put some money into this thing
and do it right.

A charger should charge at a minimum of three rates:

1) Bulk Phase - maybe at 40-80 amps until the battery is charged to
about 75% of full charge.

2) Acceptance Phase - battery voltage is maintained at 14.4V and the
amperage is reduced. That should charge the remaining 25% of the
battery.

3) Float Phase - (and this directly addresses your question) voltage
is reduced to 13.3V. This will maintain the battery without boiling
off the electrolyte.

The best chargers employ an equalization phase.

Here is some worthwhile reading material:

http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs...ryCharging.htm

http://www.batteryuniversity.com/


Thanks. That's all good information. Now the question is where to find the
right kind of charger. So far, when I look at what is for sale in stores,
the information is cryptic. I can't quite tell what it means -- just like
the Harbor Freight battery manual is vague about how it works, whether it
will shut off, etc.

I know this can't be all that complicated to figure out. I guess I'll just
keep shopping until I see what looks right.



HK May 23rd 09 05:38 PM

Gene: Battery Clips?
 
Gene -

Any ideas where I can find a pair of *quality* battery clips to attach
to my existing battery charger? Probably 12 gauge wire to the charger,
need oversized clips to attach to the battery lugs. I've about exhausted
the hardware/electrical outlets in this area.

Thanks...hk

[email protected] May 23rd 09 05:43 PM

Gene: Battery Clips?
 
On May 23, 12:38*pm, HK wrote:
Gene -

Any ideas where I can find a pair of *quality* battery clips to attach
to my existing battery charger? Probably 12 gauge wire to the charger,
need oversized clips to attach to the battery lugs. I've about exhausted
the hardware/electrical outlets in this area.

Thanks...hk


You're kidding, right?
You really can't find them???????

Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq.[_5_] May 23rd 09 08:30 PM

Gene: Battery Clips?
 
HK wrote:
Gene -

Any ideas where I can find a pair of *quality* battery clips to attach
to my existing battery charger? Probably 12 gauge wire to the charger,
need oversized clips to attach to the battery lugs. I've about exhausted
the hardware/electrical outlets in this area.

Thanks...hk


Here are a few places that sell them:

http://tinyurl.com/battclips


--
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D K[_11_] May 23rd 09 11:54 PM

Gene: Battery Clips?
 
Gene wrote:
On Sat, 23 May 2009 12:38:05 -0400, HK wrote:

Gene -

Any ideas where I can find a pair of *quality* battery clips to attach
to my existing battery charger? Probably 12 gauge wire to the charger,
need oversized clips to attach to the battery lugs. I've about exhausted
the hardware/electrical outlets in this area.

Thanks...hk


Here's a start:
http://parts.digikey.com/1/parts-kws...tor-heavy-duty


12ga on the battery side? What is WAFA trying to charge?

If he *USED* his boat, this wouldn't be an issue.

HK May 24th 09 12:47 AM

Gene: Battery Clips?
 
Gene wrote:
On Sat, 23 May 2009 18:54:09 -0400, D K
wrote:

Gene wrote:
On Sat, 23 May 2009 12:38:05 -0400, HK wrote:

Gene -

Any ideas where I can find a pair of *quality* battery clips to attach
to my existing battery charger? Probably 12 gauge wire to the charger,
need oversized clips to attach to the battery lugs. I've about exhausted
the hardware/electrical outlets in this area.

Thanks...hk
Here's a start:
http://parts.digikey.com/1/parts-kws...tor-heavy-duty

12ga on the battery side?


12 ga. at 10 feet is only good for about 15A....



Well, I haven't measured the existing leads off the charger...but I will
when I find a decent supplier of clips. The leads are 6' long, though.

HK May 24th 09 01:05 AM

Gene: Battery Clips?
 
Gene wrote:
On Sat, 23 May 2009 19:47:09 -0400, HK wrote:

Gene wrote:
On Sat, 23 May 2009 18:54:09 -0400, D K
wrote:

Gene wrote:
On Sat, 23 May 2009 12:38:05 -0400, HK wrote:

Gene -

Any ideas where I can find a pair of *quality* battery clips to attach
to my existing battery charger? Probably 12 gauge wire to the charger,
need oversized clips to attach to the battery lugs. I've about exhausted
the hardware/electrical outlets in this area.

Thanks...hk
Here's a start:
http://parts.digikey.com/1/parts-kws...tor-heavy-duty
12ga on the battery side?
12 ga. at 10 feet is only good for about 15A....


Well, I haven't measured the existing leads off the charger...but I will
when I find a decent supplier of clips. The leads are 6' long, though.


You may be stuck with somewhere like Mouser or Digi-Key. Maybe Newark
would have it, there is one in Hanover.....

I don't care for this design, but they're closer to you than
Hanover...
http://tinyurl.com/pge9co



Yeah, I had a pair of those West Marine clips on my last charger. I
wasn't that impressed with them. The local chain auto supply stores sell
low-priced Chinese crapola.

Vic Smith May 24th 09 01:14 AM

Gene: Battery Clips?
 
On Sat, 23 May 2009 20:05:16 -0400, HK wrote:

Gene wrote:
On Sat, 23 May 2009 19:47:09 -0400, HK wrote:

Gene wrote:
On Sat, 23 May 2009 18:54:09 -0400, D K
wrote:

Gene wrote:
On Sat, 23 May 2009 12:38:05 -0400, HK wrote:

Gene -

Any ideas where I can find a pair of *quality* battery clips to attach
to my existing battery charger? Probably 12 gauge wire to the charger,
need oversized clips to attach to the battery lugs. I've about exhausted
the hardware/electrical outlets in this area.

Thanks...hk
Here's a start:
http://parts.digikey.com/1/parts-kws...tor-heavy-duty
12ga on the battery side?
12 ga. at 10 feet is only good for about 15A....

Well, I haven't measured the existing leads off the charger...but I will
when I find a decent supplier of clips. The leads are 6' long, though.


You may be stuck with somewhere like Mouser or Digi-Key. Maybe Newark
would have it, there is one in Hanover.....

I don't care for this design, but they're closer to you than
Hanover...
http://tinyurl.com/pge9co



Yeah, I had a pair of those West Marine clips on my last charger. I
wasn't that impressed with them. The local chain auto supply stores sell
low-priced Chinese crapola.


Never paid much attention to charger clips. They all seem to work
fine with a wiggle. Light wire.
Jumper cable clips are the ones I pay attention to.
Seen a lot of guys think they had a connection when they didn't.
Listening to the alt on the running vehicle tells the tale.
Same with the chargers I've used. Go by the needles and hum.
Might try ****ing on it as a final test.
Reminds me of the time me and 3 mates stood on the bumper and ****ed
on the generator in my '61 Pontiac to put out the fire.
Virginia Beach.

--Vic

HK May 24th 09 01:36 AM

Gene: Battery Clips?
 
Vic Smith wrote:
On Sat, 23 May 2009 20:05:16 -0400, HK wrote:

Gene wrote:
On Sat, 23 May 2009 19:47:09 -0400, HK wrote:

Gene wrote:
On Sat, 23 May 2009 18:54:09 -0400, D K
wrote:

Gene wrote:
On Sat, 23 May 2009 12:38:05 -0400, HK wrote:

Gene -

Any ideas where I can find a pair of *quality* battery clips to attach
to my existing battery charger? Probably 12 gauge wire to the charger,
need oversized clips to attach to the battery lugs. I've about exhausted
the hardware/electrical outlets in this area.

Thanks...hk
Here's a start:
http://parts.digikey.com/1/parts-kws...tor-heavy-duty
12ga on the battery side?
12 ga. at 10 feet is only good for about 15A....
Well, I haven't measured the existing leads off the charger...but I will
when I find a decent supplier of clips. The leads are 6' long, though.
You may be stuck with somewhere like Mouser or Digi-Key. Maybe Newark
would have it, there is one in Hanover.....

I don't care for this design, but they're closer to you than
Hanover...
http://tinyurl.com/pge9co


Yeah, I had a pair of those West Marine clips on my last charger. I
wasn't that impressed with them. The local chain auto supply stores sell
low-priced Chinese crapola.


Never paid much attention to charger clips. They all seem to work
fine with a wiggle. Light wire.
Jumper cable clips are the ones I pay attention to.
Seen a lot of guys think they had a connection when they didn't.
Listening to the alt on the running vehicle tells the tale.
Same with the chargers I've used. Go by the needles and hum.
Might try ****ing on it as a final test.
Reminds me of the time me and 3 mates stood on the bumper and ****ed
on the generator in my '61 Pontiac to put out the fire.
Virginia Beach.

--Vic



Now that is a video that would be worth owning!

D K[_11_] May 25th 09 01:36 AM

Gene: Battery Clips?
 
Gene wrote:
On Sat, 23 May 2009 18:54:09 -0400, D K
wrote:

Gene wrote:
On Sat, 23 May 2009 12:38:05 -0400, HK wrote:

Gene -

Any ideas where I can find a pair of *quality* battery clips to attach
to my existing battery charger? Probably 12 gauge wire to the charger,
need oversized clips to attach to the battery lugs. I've about exhausted
the hardware/electrical outlets in this area.

Thanks...hk
Here's a start:
http://parts.digikey.com/1/parts-kws...tor-heavy-duty

12ga on the battery side?


12 ga. at 10 feet is only good for about 15A....


The extension cord manufacturers show different results...

http://colemancable.com/CatalogProdu...ProductsID=156


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