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Wizard of Woodstock May 13th 09 08:05 PM

Coming soon to a state near you...
 
Sex-based abortions

Swedish women will be permitted to abort their children based on the
sex of the fetus, according to a ruling by Sweden's National Board of
Health and Welfare.

The ruling was spurred by a request from Kai Wedenberg, head of the
clinic where a woman twice requested, and received, an abortion based
on sex.

Mr. Wedenberg asked for clarification from health officials after a
woman, who already had two girls, requested amniocentesis and to be
told the sex of her unborn child. She found out she was pregnant with
another girl and asked for an abortion six days later.

The woman then became pregnant again, returned to the clinic and asked
for another amniocentesis, which was not performed. Later, at her
ultrasound, she asked the nurse to reveal the sex of her fetus, which
was a girl. After learning this, the mother requested an abortion
later that day and received it later that week.

Mr. Wedenberg worried in a letter to the board that "the matter has
given rise to strong feelings among those involved who, perhaps
justifiably, believe that the patient has gone through two abortions
because of [the fetus'] gender" and wanted to know "if a caregiver
within the public health system has the right to make reference to
their own views and the dominant view in our country about genders'
equal value, in preventing a patient, with perhaps a different
valuation, from learning the gender of the fetus."

Sveriges Television reported Tuesday that the board, in response to
Mr. Wedenberg's inquiry, decided it is illegal to deny a woman an
abortion up to her 18th week of pregnancy even if her request is based
on a sex preference.

-------------

How long is it going to be before that argument is made in the US?

Not long I'll bet.

HK May 13th 09 08:08 PM

Coming soon to a state near you...
 
Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
Sex-based abortions

Swedish women will be permitted to abort their children based on the
sex of the fetus, according to a ruling by Sweden's National Board of
Health and Welfare.

The ruling was spurred by a request from Kai Wedenberg, head of the
clinic where a woman twice requested, and received, an abortion based
on sex.

Mr. Wedenberg asked for clarification from health officials after a
woman, who already had two girls, requested amniocentesis and to be
told the sex of her unborn child. She found out she was pregnant with
another girl and asked for an abortion six days later.

The woman then became pregnant again, returned to the clinic and asked
for another amniocentesis, which was not performed. Later, at her
ultrasound, she asked the nurse to reveal the sex of her fetus, which
was a girl. After learning this, the mother requested an abortion
later that day and received it later that week.

Mr. Wedenberg worried in a letter to the board that "the matter has
given rise to strong feelings among those involved who, perhaps
justifiably, believe that the patient has gone through two abortions
because of [the fetus'] gender" and wanted to know "if a caregiver
within the public health system has the right to make reference to
their own views and the dominant view in our country about genders'
equal value, in preventing a patient, with perhaps a different
valuation, from learning the gender of the fetus."

Sveriges Television reported Tuesday that the board, in response to
Mr. Wedenberg's inquiry, decided it is illegal to deny a woman an
abortion up to her 18th week of pregnancy even if her request is based
on a sex preference.

-------------

How long is it going to be before that argument is made in the US?

Not long I'll bet.



Her body, her choice. *Not* yours.

"...it is illegal to deny a woman an abortion up to her 18th week of
pregnancy even if her request is based on a sex preference."

Got it?

[email protected] May 13th 09 08:20 PM

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On May 13, 3:08*pm, HK wrote:
Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
Sex-based abortions


Swedish women will be permitted to abort their children based on the
sex of the fetus, according to a ruling by Sweden's National Board of
Health and Welfare.


The ruling was spurred by a request from Kai Wedenberg, head of the
clinic where a woman twice requested, and received, an abortion based
on sex.


Mr. Wedenberg asked for clarification from health officials after a
woman, who already had two girls, requested amniocentesis and to be
told the sex of her unborn child. She found out she was pregnant with
another girl and asked for an abortion six days later.


The woman then became pregnant again, returned to the clinic and asked
for another amniocentesis, which was not performed. Later, at her
ultrasound, she asked the nurse to reveal the sex of her fetus, which
was a girl. After learning this, the mother requested an abortion
later that day and received it later that week.


Mr. Wedenberg worried in a letter to the board that "the matter has
given rise to strong feelings among those involved who, perhaps
justifiably, believe that the patient has gone through two abortions
because of [the fetus'] gender" and wanted to know "if a caregiver
within the public health system has the right to make reference to
their own views and the dominant view in our country about genders'
equal value, in preventing a patient, with perhaps a different
valuation, from learning the gender of the fetus."


Sveriges Television reported Tuesday that the board, in response to
Mr. Wedenberg's inquiry, decided it is illegal to deny a woman an
abortion up to her 18th week of pregnancy even if her request is based
on a sex preference.


-------------


How long is it going to be before that argument is made in the US?


Not long I'll bet.


Her body, her choice. *Not* yours.

This from the person here who loves to tell everyone what they should
have, what they shouldn't have, what they should think, what they
shouldn't think.

John H[_2_] May 13th 09 08:40 PM

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On Wed, 13 May 2009 15:05:22 -0400, Wizard of Woodstock
wrote:

Sex-based abortions

Swedish women will be permitted to abort their children based on the
sex of the fetus, according to a ruling by Sweden's National Board of
Health and Welfare.

The ruling was spurred by a request from Kai Wedenberg, head of the
clinic where a woman twice requested, and received, an abortion based
on sex.

Mr. Wedenberg asked for clarification from health officials after a
woman, who already had two girls, requested amniocentesis and to be
told the sex of her unborn child. She found out she was pregnant with
another girl and asked for an abortion six days later.

The woman then became pregnant again, returned to the clinic and asked
for another amniocentesis, which was not performed. Later, at her
ultrasound, she asked the nurse to reveal the sex of her fetus, which
was a girl. After learning this, the mother requested an abortion
later that day and received it later that week.

Mr. Wedenberg worried in a letter to the board that "the matter has
given rise to strong feelings among those involved who, perhaps
justifiably, believe that the patient has gone through two abortions
because of [the fetus'] gender" and wanted to know "if a caregiver
within the public health system has the right to make reference to
their own views and the dominant view in our country about genders'
equal value, in preventing a patient, with perhaps a different
valuation, from learning the gender of the fetus."

Sveriges Television reported Tuesday that the board, in response to
Mr. Wedenberg's inquiry, decided it is illegal to deny a woman an
abortion up to her 18th week of pregnancy even if her request is based
on a sex preference.

-------------

How long is it going to be before that argument is made in the US?

Not long I'll bet.


You don't get it. Women in the US can get an abortion for any reason,
regardless of gender.

From the Freedom of Choice Act:

"SEC. 4. INTERFERENCE WITH REPRODUCTIVE HEALTH PROHIBITED.

(a) Statement of Policy- It is the policy of the United States
that every woman has the fundamental right to choose to bear a child,
to terminate a pregnancy prior to fetal viability, or to terminate a
pregnancy after fetal viability when necessary to protect the life or
health of the woman."

There are no conditions in there, except that the woman may have to
complain of a headache if she wants to abort a viable fetus (otherwise
known as an unborn baby).
--
John H

**************************
"That's not a *baby* kicking, beautiful bride, it's just a fetus you feel." (Harry Krause truism)

jim78565 May 13th 09 08:47 PM

Coming soon to a state near you...
 
HK wrote:
Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
Sex-based abortions

Swedish women will be permitted to abort their children based on the
sex of the fetus, according to a ruling by Sweden's National Board of
Health and Welfare.
The ruling was spurred by a request from Kai Wedenberg, head of the
clinic where a woman twice requested, and received, an abortion based
on sex.
Mr. Wedenberg asked for clarification from health officials after a
woman, who already had two girls, requested amniocentesis and to be
told the sex of her unborn child. She found out she was pregnant with
another girl and asked for an abortion six days later.
The woman then became pregnant again, returned to the clinic and asked
for another amniocentesis, which was not performed. Later, at her
ultrasound, she asked the nurse to reveal the sex of her fetus, which
was a girl. After learning this, the mother requested an abortion
later that day and received it later that week.
Mr. Wedenberg worried in a letter to the board that "the matter has
given rise to strong feelings among those involved who, perhaps
justifiably, believe that the patient has gone through two abortions
because of [the fetus'] gender" and wanted to know "if a caregiver
within the public health system has the right to make reference to
their own views and the dominant view in our country about genders'
equal value, in preventing a patient, with perhaps a different
valuation, from learning the gender of the fetus."
Sveriges Television reported Tuesday that the board, in response to
Mr. Wedenberg's inquiry, decided it is illegal to deny a woman an
abortion up to her 18th week of pregnancy even if her request is based
on a sex preference.
-------------

How long is it going to be before that argument is made in the US?

Not long I'll bet.



Her body, her choice. *Not* yours.

"...it is illegal to deny a woman an abortion up to her 18th week of
pregnancy even if her request is based on a sex preference."

Got it?


Harry wants the courts to decide these abortion cases on an individual
basis. Same as making health care decisions for a 13 year old boy. Right?

[email protected] May 13th 09 09:21 PM

Coming soon to a state near you...
 
On May 13, 3:40*pm, John H wrote:
On Wed, 13 May 2009 15:05:22 -0400, Wizard of Woodstock





wrote:
Sex-based abortions


Swedish women will be permitted to abort their children based on the
sex of the fetus, according to a ruling by Sweden's National Board of
Health and Welfare.


The ruling was spurred by a request from Kai Wedenberg, head of the
clinic where a woman twice requested, and received, an abortion based
on sex.


Mr. Wedenberg asked for clarification from health officials after a
woman, who already had two girls, requested amniocentesis and to be
told the sex of her unborn child. She found out she was pregnant with
another girl and asked for an abortion six days later.


The woman then became pregnant again, returned to the clinic and asked
for another amniocentesis, which was not performed. Later, at her
ultrasound, she asked the nurse to reveal the sex of her fetus, which
was a girl. After learning this, the mother requested an abortion
later that day and received it later that week.


Mr. Wedenberg worried in a letter to the board that "the matter has
given rise to strong feelings among those involved who, perhaps
justifiably, believe that the patient has gone through two abortions
because of [the fetus'] gender" and wanted to know "if a caregiver
within the public health system has the right to make reference to
their own views and the dominant view in our country about genders'
equal value, in preventing a patient, with perhaps a different
valuation, from learning the gender of the fetus."


Sveriges Television reported Tuesday that the board, in response to
Mr. Wedenberg's inquiry, decided it is illegal to deny a woman an
abortion up to her 18th week of pregnancy even if her request is based
on a sex preference.


-------------


How long is it going to be before that argument is made in the US?


Not long I'll bet.


You don't get it. Women in the US can get an abortion for any reason,
regardless of gender.

From the Freedom of Choice Act:

"SEC. 4. INTERFERENCE WITH REPRODUCTIVE HEALTH PROHIBITED.

* * * (a) Statement of Policy- It is the policy of the United States
that every woman has the fundamental right to choose to bear a child,
to terminate a pregnancy prior to fetal viability, or to terminate a
pregnancy after fetal viability when necessary to protect the life or
health of the woman."

There are no conditions in there, except that the woman may have to
complain of a headache if she wants to abort a viable fetus (otherwise
known as an unborn baby).
--
John H

**************************
"That's not a *baby* kicking, beautiful bride, it's just a fetus you feel.." *(Harry Krause truism)- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Um, John, isn't a woman OF a particular gender?

John H[_2_] May 14th 09 01:41 AM

Coming soon to a state near you...
 
On Wed, 13 May 2009 13:21:44 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On May 13, 3:40*pm, John H wrote:
On Wed, 13 May 2009 15:05:22 -0400, Wizard of Woodstock





wrote:
Sex-based abortions


Swedish women will be permitted to abort their children based on the
sex of the fetus, according to a ruling by Sweden's National Board of
Health and Welfare.


The ruling was spurred by a request from Kai Wedenberg, head of the
clinic where a woman twice requested, and received, an abortion based
on sex.


Mr. Wedenberg asked for clarification from health officials after a
woman, who already had two girls, requested amniocentesis and to be
told the sex of her unborn child. She found out she was pregnant with
another girl and asked for an abortion six days later.


The woman then became pregnant again, returned to the clinic and asked
for another amniocentesis, which was not performed. Later, at her
ultrasound, she asked the nurse to reveal the sex of her fetus, which
was a girl. After learning this, the mother requested an abortion
later that day and received it later that week.


Mr. Wedenberg worried in a letter to the board that "the matter has
given rise to strong feelings among those involved who, perhaps
justifiably, believe that the patient has gone through two abortions
because of [the fetus'] gender" and wanted to know "if a caregiver
within the public health system has the right to make reference to
their own views and the dominant view in our country about genders'
equal value, in preventing a patient, with perhaps a different
valuation, from learning the gender of the fetus."


Sveriges Television reported Tuesday that the board, in response to
Mr. Wedenberg's inquiry, decided it is illegal to deny a woman an
abortion up to her 18th week of pregnancy even if her request is based
on a sex preference.


-------------


How long is it going to be before that argument is made in the US?


Not long I'll bet.


You don't get it. Women in the US can get an abortion for any reason,
regardless of gender.

From the Freedom of Choice Act:

"SEC. 4. INTERFERENCE WITH REPRODUCTIVE HEALTH PROHIBITED.

* * * (a) Statement of Policy- It is the policy of the United States
that every woman has the fundamental right to choose to bear a child,
to terminate a pregnancy prior to fetal viability, or to terminate a
pregnancy after fetal viability when necessary to protect the life or
health of the woman."

There are no conditions in there, except that the woman may have to
complain of a headache if she wants to abort a viable fetus (otherwise
known as an unborn baby).
--
John H

**************************
"That's not a *baby* kicking, beautiful bride, it's just a fetus you feel." *(Harry Krause truism)- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Um, John, isn't a woman OF a particular gender?


Read Tom's post. The topic is the gender of the baby.

You're correct. Most 'real' women are of the female gender.
--
John H

**************************
"That's not a *baby* kicking, beautiful bride, it's just a fetus you feel." (Harry Krause truism)


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