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SteveB[_2_] May 8th 09 06:54 AM

motor angle
 
Should the motor be ideally perpendicular to the bottom of the boat, or
slightly kicked up? My power trim doesn't work, and I have to set the notch
by hand.

Steve



jps May 8th 09 07:19 AM

motor angle
 
On Thu, 7 May 2009 23:54:26 -0600, "SteveB"
wrote:

Should the motor be ideally perpendicular to the bottom of the boat, or
slightly kicked up? My power trim doesn't work, and I have to set the notch
by hand.

Steve


Dillweed, it depends on the type of hull, weight distribution and how
you want the boat to ride.

Flat bottom? No not you, the boat.

Tim May 8th 09 07:30 AM

motor angle
 
On May 8, 12:54*am, "SteveB" wrote:
Should the motor be ideally perpendicular to the bottom of the boat, or
slightly kicked up? *My power trim doesn't work, and I have to set the notch
by hand.

Steve


Steve, you ought to have some trim. it takes a bit of experimentation
but I'd say if you can easily set it a couple notches ought to work.

Jim22208 May 8th 09 12:14 PM

motor angle
 
SteveB wrote:
Should the motor be ideally perpendicular to the bottom of the boat, or
slightly kicked up? My power trim doesn't work, and I have to set the notch
by hand.

Steve


You will need to experiment with the setting. Correct porpoising by
lowering the trim. Correct bow steer or flat running by raising the
trim. Sometimes changing the trim even 1 notch fixes one problem but
creates another problem. If you cant get the trim right by setting the
engine and or distributing the weight in the boat then try a doel fin
and or changing the prop pitch. Make sure the engine stays in the proper
WOT RPM range.

Eisboch[_4_] May 8th 09 12:28 PM

motor angle
 

"Jim22208" wrote in message
...
SteveB wrote:
Should the motor be ideally perpendicular to the bottom of the boat, or
slightly kicked up? My power trim doesn't work, and I have to set the
notch by hand.

Steve

You will need to experiment with the setting. Correct porpoising by
lowering the trim. Correct bow steer or flat running by raising the trim.
Sometimes changing the trim even 1 notch fixes one problem but creates
another problem. If you cant get the trim right by setting the engine and
or distributing the weight in the boat then try a doel fin and or changing
the prop pitch. Make sure the engine stays in the proper WOT RPM range.



Why not fix the power trim? Problem with the fixed notches is that a
position may work well with one person aboard but not very well with two or
more. Boat loading affects the ideal trim.
Also, I don't know where you boat, but in the ocean the power trim allows
for easy, underway adjustments for changing sea conditions. Lifting or
lowering the bow a bit in rough chop helps keep you dry and can smooth out
the ride a bit.

Eisboch


Vic Smith May 8th 09 01:19 PM

motor angle
 
On Thu, 7 May 2009 23:54:26 -0600, "SteveB"
wrote:

Should the motor be ideally perpendicular to the bottom of the boat, or
slightly kicked up? My power trim doesn't work, and I have to set the notch
by hand.

Steve

Check out these short vids on trim.
http://www.boattest.com/Resources/vi...px?NewsID=3348
You really should be able to adjust your trim while moving.
I found it very helpful even with a 5hp on a 12' boat.
That was easily done manually.
For a big motor I'd want a working power trim.

--Vic

jim78565 May 8th 09 02:01 PM

motor angle
 
Eisboch wrote:

"Jim22208" wrote in message
...
SteveB wrote:
Should the motor be ideally perpendicular to the bottom of the boat,
or slightly kicked up? My power trim doesn't work, and I have to set
the notch by hand.

Steve

You will need to experiment with the setting. Correct porpoising by
lowering the trim. Correct bow steer or flat running by raising the
trim. Sometimes changing the trim even 1 notch fixes one problem but
creates another problem. If you cant get the trim right by setting the
engine and or distributing the weight in the boat then try a doel fin
and or changing the prop pitch. Make sure the engine stays in the
proper WOT RPM range.



Why not fix the power trim? Problem with the fixed notches is that a
position may work well with one person aboard but not very well with two
or more. Boat loading affects the ideal trim.
Also, I don't know where you boat, but in the ocean the power trim
allows for easy, underway adjustments for changing sea conditions.
Lifting or lowering the bow a bit in rough chop helps keep you dry and
can smooth out the ride a bit.

Eisboch


That would be the right thing to do. I couldn't stand it if I owned
something that didn't work properly. I got the sense that the fella was
frugal. Fixing the trim might not be in the budget.

[email protected] May 8th 09 02:31 PM

motor angle
 
On May 8, 2:19*am, jps wrote:
On Thu, 7 May 2009 23:54:26 -0600, "SteveB"
wrote:

Should the motor be ideally perpendicular to the bottom of the boat, or
slightly kicked up? *My power trim doesn't work, and I have to set the notch
by hand.


Steve


Dillweed, it depends on the type of hull, weight distribution and how
you want the boat to ride. *

Flat bottom? *No not you, the boat.


Man, a person comes here with an actual boat question, and because you
and Harry use this place to do nothing but sling **** like circus
monkeys, give him a ration of crap.

Don White May 8th 09 03:26 PM

motor angle
 

"SteveB" wrote in message
...
Should the motor be ideally perpendicular to the bottom of the boat, or
slightly kicked up? My power trim doesn't work, and I have to set the
notch by hand.

Steve


I can tell you that one notch position makes quite a difference.
When I bought my open aluminum boat with 25 hp ourboard from a fellow poster
here, I just had to mess around with the adjustments.
The boat wouldn't plane right...the bow was sticking up too far and the
speed was disappointing.
I could make out (slight dirt stain) where the trim was originally set...and
after confirming this with the original owner, I set the trim in that spot.
What a difference...up on plane in a couple of seconds and the GPS rated me
at just over 27 mph.
Would a different setting be required with passengers...or in much rougher
waters..maybe.



SteveB[_2_] May 8th 09 04:03 PM

motor angle
 

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"Jim22208" wrote in message
...
SteveB wrote:
Should the motor be ideally perpendicular to the bottom of the boat, or
slightly kicked up? My power trim doesn't work, and I have to set the
notch by hand.

Steve

You will need to experiment with the setting. Correct porpoising by
lowering the trim. Correct bow steer or flat running by raising the trim.
Sometimes changing the trim even 1 notch fixes one problem but creates
another problem. If you cant get the trim right by setting the engine and
or distributing the weight in the boat then try a doel fin and or
changing the prop pitch. Make sure the engine stays in the proper WOT RPM
range.



Why not fix the power trim? Problem with the fixed notches is that a
position may work well with one person aboard but not very well with two
or more. Boat loading affects the ideal trim.
Also, I don't know where you boat, but in the ocean the power trim allows
for easy, underway adjustments for changing sea conditions. Lifting or
lowering the bow a bit in rough chop helps keep you dry and can smooth out
the ride a bit.

Eisboch


There's no power trim to be fixed. All that remain are the two rocker
switches. I'm looking for a used unit, but so far no luck. Then I would
have to find someone who knows how to install it. But yeah, that would be
the ideal.

Steve



Wayne.B May 8th 09 07:06 PM

motor angle
 
On Fri, 08 May 2009 07:19:07 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

For a big motor I'd want a working power trim.


Absolutely right for all of the previously mentioned reasons. There
is no one "correct" setting for different loads and different sea
conditions.


Richard Casady May 9th 09 12:50 PM

motor angle
 
On Fri, 08 May 2009 07:19:07 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

You really should be able to adjust your trim while moving.
I found it very helpful even with a 5hp on a 12' boat.
That was easily done manually.


Been my limited experience with 5 horse motors that you get a choice
of about five notches. If it was infinitly variable, you would want to
adjust it underway, but that is not necessary to pick the best of five
by trial and error.

Casady

Eisboch[_4_] May 9th 09 02:59 PM

motor angle
 

"Richard Casady" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 08 May 2009 07:19:07 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

You really should be able to adjust your trim while moving.
I found it very helpful even with a 5hp on a 12' boat.
That was easily done manually.


Been my limited experience with 5 horse motors that you get a choice
of about five notches. If it was infinitly variable, you would want to
adjust it underway, but that is not necessary to pick the best of five
by trial and error.

Casady


I don't think I've ever seen a small outboard like that with hydraulic trim.

Eisboch


DK May 10th 09 02:18 AM

motor angle
 
jps wrote:
On Thu, 7 May 2009 23:54:26 -0600, "SteveB"
wrote:

Should the motor be ideally perpendicular to the bottom of the boat, or
slightly kicked up? My power trim doesn't work, and I have to set the notch
by hand.

Steve


Dillweed, it depends on the type of hull, weight distribution and how
you want the boat to ride.

Flat bottom? No not you, the boat.


You should learn some restraint. You are an idiot and you have nothing
to offer. It's best to ignore these on-topic posts and stick to your
political trolling.

FOAD.

DK May 10th 09 02:24 AM

motor angle
 
Don White wrote:
"SteveB" wrote in message
...
Should the motor be ideally perpendicular to the bottom of the boat, or
slightly kicked up? My power trim doesn't work, and I have to set the
notch by hand.

Steve


I can tell you that one notch position makes quite a difference.
When I bought my open aluminum boat with 25 hp ourboard from a fellow poster
here, I just had to mess around with the adjustments.
The boat wouldn't plane right...the bow was sticking up too far and the
speed was disappointing.
I could make out (slight dirt stain) where the trim was originally set...and
after confirming this with the original owner, I set the trim in that spot.
What a difference...up on plane in a couple of seconds and the GPS rated me
at just over 27 mph.
Would a different setting be required with passengers...or in much rougher
waters..maybe.




Wow! So rowboat with small OB = "open aluminum boat"? It does sound
fancier, dummy. And 27 mph is amazing! At least it's faster than a Segway.

DK May 10th 09 02:31 AM

motor angle
 
SteveB wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message
...
"Jim22208" wrote in message
...
SteveB wrote:
Should the motor be ideally perpendicular to the bottom of the boat, or
slightly kicked up? My power trim doesn't work, and I have to set the
notch by hand.

Steve
You will need to experiment with the setting. Correct porpoising by
lowering the trim. Correct bow steer or flat running by raising the trim.
Sometimes changing the trim even 1 notch fixes one problem but creates
another problem. If you cant get the trim right by setting the engine and
or distributing the weight in the boat then try a doel fin and or
changing the prop pitch. Make sure the engine stays in the proper WOT RPM
range.


Why not fix the power trim? Problem with the fixed notches is that a
position may work well with one person aboard but not very well with two
or more. Boat loading affects the ideal trim.
Also, I don't know where you boat, but in the ocean the power trim allows
for easy, underway adjustments for changing sea conditions. Lifting or
lowering the bow a bit in rough chop helps keep you dry and can smooth out
the ride a bit.

Eisboch


There's no power trim to be fixed. All that remain are the two rocker
switches. I'm looking for a used unit, but so far no luck. Then I would
have to find someone who knows how to install it. But yeah, that would be
the ideal.

Steve




I didn't see if you said how big it is, but there are several
aftermarket manufacturers of trim units like CMC and Panther.

jps May 10th 09 04:01 AM

motor angle
 
On Sat, 09 May 2009 21:18:14 -0400, DK
wrote:

jps wrote:
On Thu, 7 May 2009 23:54:26 -0600, "SteveB"
wrote:

Should the motor be ideally perpendicular to the bottom of the boat, or
slightly kicked up? My power trim doesn't work, and I have to set the notch
by hand.

Steve


Dillweed, it depends on the type of hull, weight distribution and how
you want the boat to ride.

Flat bottom? No not you, the boat.


You should learn some restraint. You are an idiot and you have nothing
to offer. It's best to ignore these on-topic posts and stick to your
political trolling.

FOAD.


And your value overflows the newsgroup. You spend 90% of your time
buttsniffing other posters.

Get a life, dweeb.


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