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HK May 7th 09 04:13 AM

The FBI...an agency on which we cannot depend
 
FBI's Lapses on Terrorist Watch List Put Nation at Risk, Report Warns

By Ellen Nakashima
Washington Post Staff Writer
Thursday, May 7, 2009

The FBI has retained almost 24,000 names on the nation's terrorist watch
list without current or proper justification, while failing to include
people who are subjects of terrorist investigations, according to a
Justice Department report issued yesterday.

The FBI's lapses "create a risk to national security," Justice
Department Inspector General Glenn A. Fine said in the report. In
addition, he said, keeping people on the list improperly can lead to
unnecessary delays for travelers at airports, along highways and elsewhere.

The results also underscore concerns raised by civil liberties advocates
about the list's accuracy and transparency, and its impact on those who
are inappropriately listed -- or confused with someone who is on the list.

The watch list, maintained by the FBI and fed by a number of government
agencies, was created in 2004. As of September, it contained about
400,000 people. With aliases, the list grows to 1.1 million names. About
2 percent of the 400,000 were placed on the list by the FBI, officials
at the agency said.

The report offers the most complete account to date of the flaws in the
way the FBI nominates people for and removes them from the watch list.
The report comes in the wake of an audit from last May that focused on
the lack of uniform nomination procedures across agencies.

Of the 68,000 submissions that the FBI has made to the watch list since
2004, almost 24,000 or 35 percent were sourced to old or non-terrorism
investigations, the report found. In a sampling of cases, Fine's staff
found that at least 94 individuals should have been removed. One person
remained on the watch list five years after the underlying terrorism
case had been closed. One was encountered at the White House by Secret
Service agents before a meeting with President George W. Bush.

At least 35 terrorism suspects who should have been on the list were not
included, or their names were submitted after lengthy delays -- in two
cases, three years after investigations were opened. Of these, 12
traveled into or out of the country during the period in which they were
not on the list.

The inspector general's office reviewed 216 terrorism investigations in
Miami, Los Angeles and Minneapolis. Eighty-five were closed cases, at
which time, according to FBI policy, a subject generally should be
removed. However, the FBI was slow to act in 72 percent of cases,
taking, on average, two months to remove a name.

One case agent said his subject was supposed to remain on the watch
list, but he had forgotten to include a justification for doing so in
closing the case. Another agent said she thought the subjects of her two
cases had been removed before the cases were assigned to her. A third
agent said he must have forgotten to submit the removal form.

FBI Assistant Director John Miller said the agency has addressed all 16
recommendations made by the Office of the Inspector General, including
increasing training on watch-listing practices and improving the
accuracy of nominations.

"We remain committed to improving our watch list policy and practices to
ensure the proper balance between national security protection and the
need for accurate, efficient and streamlined watch-listing processes,"
he said.

Sen. Patrick J. Leahy (D-Vt.), Judiciary Committee chairman, said he
found the report "disturbing." "That the FBI continues to fail to place
subjects of terrorism investigations on the watchlist is unacceptable,"
he said in a statement.
- - -

Tim May 7th 09 04:18 AM

The FBI...an agency on which we cannot depend
 
On May 6, 10:13*pm, HK wrote:
FBI's Lapses on Terrorist Watch List Put Nation at Risk, Report Warns

By Ellen Nakashima
Washington Post Staff Writer
Thursday, May 7, 2009

The FBI has retained almost 24,000 names on the nation's terrorist watch
list without current or proper justification, while failing to include
people who are subjects of terrorist investigations, according to a
Justice Department report issued yesterday.

The FBI's lapses "create a risk to national security," Justice
Department Inspector General Glenn A. Fine said in the report. In
addition, he said, keeping people on the list improperly can lead to
unnecessary delays for travelers at airports, along highways and elsewhere.

The results also underscore concerns raised by civil liberties advocates
about the list's accuracy and transparency, and its impact on those who
are inappropriately listed -- or confused with someone who is on the list..

The watch list, maintained by the FBI and fed by a number of government
agencies, was created in 2004. As of September, it contained about
400,000 people. With aliases, the list grows to 1.1 million names. About
2 percent of the 400,000 were placed on the list by the FBI, officials
at the agency said.

The report offers the most complete account to date of the flaws in the
way the FBI nominates people for and removes them from the watch list.
The report comes in the wake of an audit from last May that focused on
the lack of uniform nomination procedures across agencies.

Of the 68,000 submissions that the FBI has made to the watch list since
2004, almost 24,000 or 35 percent were sourced to old or non-terrorism
investigations, the report found. In a sampling of cases, Fine's staff
found that at least 94 individuals should have been removed. One person
remained on the watch list five years after the underlying terrorism
case had been closed. One was encountered at the White House by Secret
Service agents before a meeting with President George W. Bush.

At least 35 terrorism suspects who should have been on the list were not
included, or their names were submitted after lengthy delays -- in two
cases, three years after investigations were opened. Of these, 12
traveled into or out of the country during the period in which they were
not on the list.

The inspector general's office reviewed 216 terrorism investigations in
Miami, Los Angeles and Minneapolis. Eighty-five were closed cases, at
which time, according to FBI policy, a subject generally should be
removed. However, the FBI was slow to act in 72 percent of cases,
taking, on average, two months to remove a name.

One case agent said his subject was supposed to remain on the watch
list, but he had forgotten to include a justification for doing so in
closing the case. Another agent said she thought the subjects of her two
cases had been removed before the cases were assigned to her. A third
agent said he must have forgotten to submit the removal form.

FBI Assistant Director John Miller said the agency has addressed all 16
recommendations made by the Office of the Inspector General, including
increasing training on watch-listing practices and improving the
accuracy of nominations.

"We remain committed to improving our watch list policy and practices to
ensure the proper balance between national security protection and the
need for accurate, efficient and streamlined watch-listing processes,"
he said.

Sen. Patrick J. Leahy (D-Vt.), Judiciary Committee chairman, said he
found the report "disturbing." "That the FBI continues to fail to place
subjects of terrorism investigations on the watchlist is unacceptable,"
he said in a statement.
- - -



Here's the link Harry.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...050603968.html

Why dont' you include a link instead of a snip of an article lone?

Well i suppose a snip is better than a full blown cnp.

You mean you actually believe Thewashingtonstump?

?;^)

HK May 7th 09 04:23 AM

The FBI...an agency on which we cannot depend
 
Tim wrote:
On May 6, 10:13 pm, HK wrote:
FBI's Lapses on Terrorist Watch List Put Nation at Risk, Report Warns

By Ellen Nakashima
Washington Post Staff Writer
Thursday, May 7, 2009

The FBI has retained almost 24,000 names on the nation's terrorist watch
list without current or proper justification, while failing to include
people who are subjects of terrorist investigations, according to a
Justice Department report issued yesterday.

The FBI's lapses "create a risk to national security," Justice
Department Inspector General Glenn A. Fine said in the report. In
addition, he said, keeping people on the list improperly can lead to
unnecessary delays for travelers at airports, along highways and elsewhere.

The results also underscore concerns raised by civil liberties advocates
about the list's accuracy and transparency, and its impact on those who
are inappropriately listed -- or confused with someone who is on the list.

The watch list, maintained by the FBI and fed by a number of government
agencies, was created in 2004. As of September, it contained about
400,000 people. With aliases, the list grows to 1.1 million names. About
2 percent of the 400,000 were placed on the list by the FBI, officials
at the agency said.

The report offers the most complete account to date of the flaws in the
way the FBI nominates people for and removes them from the watch list.
The report comes in the wake of an audit from last May that focused on
the lack of uniform nomination procedures across agencies.

Of the 68,000 submissions that the FBI has made to the watch list since
2004, almost 24,000 or 35 percent were sourced to old or non-terrorism
investigations, the report found. In a sampling of cases, Fine's staff
found that at least 94 individuals should have been removed. One person
remained on the watch list five years after the underlying terrorism
case had been closed. One was encountered at the White House by Secret
Service agents before a meeting with President George W. Bush.

At least 35 terrorism suspects who should have been on the list were not
included, or their names were submitted after lengthy delays -- in two
cases, three years after investigations were opened. Of these, 12
traveled into or out of the country during the period in which they were
not on the list.

The inspector general's office reviewed 216 terrorism investigations in
Miami, Los Angeles and Minneapolis. Eighty-five were closed cases, at
which time, according to FBI policy, a subject generally should be
removed. However, the FBI was slow to act in 72 percent of cases,
taking, on average, two months to remove a name.

One case agent said his subject was supposed to remain on the watch
list, but he had forgotten to include a justification for doing so in
closing the case. Another agent said she thought the subjects of her two
cases had been removed before the cases were assigned to her. A third
agent said he must have forgotten to submit the removal form.

FBI Assistant Director John Miller said the agency has addressed all 16
recommendations made by the Office of the Inspector General, including
increasing training on watch-listing practices and improving the
accuracy of nominations.

"We remain committed to improving our watch list policy and practices to
ensure the proper balance between national security protection and the
need for accurate, efficient and streamlined watch-listing processes,"
he said.

Sen. Patrick J. Leahy (D-Vt.), Judiciary Committee chairman, said he
found the report "disturbing." "That the FBI continues to fail to place
subjects of terrorism investigations on the watchlist is unacceptable,"
he said in a statement.
- - -



Here's the link Harry.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...050603968.html

Why dont' you include a link instead of a snip of an article lone?

Well i suppose a snip is better than a full blown cnp.

You mean you actually believe Thewashingtonstump?

?;^)



Why?

Because I prefer to post an article one can read if one wants to read it.

Here's one for you, from the Christian Moonie paper:


The Washington Times
Wednesday, May 6, 2009
EDITORIAL: We were wrong

We hereby retract our April 28 editorial "Barack's in the basement"
because we misapplied several polling comparisons of various presidents
after their first 100 days in office.

The point of our editorial was that various establishment media outlets
were overstating President Obama's popularity. We continue to believe
that, in terms of the tone of coverage, the point is valid. However, for
data establishing that point, we followed George Mason University
professor Judith Apter Klinghoffer's analysis and compared Gallup
polling data for elected presidents going back to President Nixon. We
did our own analysis but failed to see that some of the polls we were
using did not lend themselves to direct intercomparisons.

Most importantly, we used figures for overall "approval" ratings for
former President George W. Bush - 62 percent - and compared them to the
ratings of "excellent" or "good" for Mr. Obama, which combined were 56
percent. However, when asked the same question - approve or disapprove -
for Mr. Obama for the same three days of his first term, April 20-22,
his rating actually was 65 percent, thus putting him above rather than
below Mr. Bush.

In short, even if our overall figures did not compare oranges to
something almost entirely different like apples, we did at least do
something like comparing oranges to tangerines. But close doesn't cut it
in this business. We regret the errors.

- - -


The real story is that the Washington Times was caught - once again -
spreading the right-wing bull**** of the Unification Church, which calls
all the shots on matters political at that paper.

Tim May 7th 09 04:27 AM

The FBI...an agency on which we cannot depend
 
On May 6, 10:23*pm, HK wrote:
Tim wrote:
On May 6, 10:13 pm, HK wrote:
FBI's Lapses on Terrorist Watch List Put Nation at Risk, Report Warns


By Ellen Nakashima
Washington Post Staff Writer
Thursday, May 7, 2009


The FBI has retained almost 24,000 names on the nation's terrorist watch
list without current or proper justification, while failing to include
people who are subjects of terrorist investigations, according to a
Justice Department report issued yesterday.


The FBI's lapses "create a risk to national security," Justice
Department Inspector General Glenn A. Fine said in the report. In
addition, he said, keeping people on the list improperly can lead to
unnecessary delays for travelers at airports, along highways and elsewhere.


The results also underscore concerns raised by civil liberties advocates
about the list's accuracy and transparency, and its impact on those who
are inappropriately listed -- or confused with someone who is on the list.


The watch list, maintained by the FBI and fed by a number of government
agencies, was created in 2004. As of September, it contained about
400,000 people. With aliases, the list grows to 1.1 million names. About
2 percent of the 400,000 were placed on the list by the FBI, officials
at the agency said.


The report offers the most complete account to date of the flaws in the
way the FBI nominates people for and removes them from the watch list.
The report comes in the wake of an audit from last May that focused on
the lack of uniform nomination procedures across agencies.


Of the 68,000 submissions that the FBI has made to the watch list since
2004, almost 24,000 or 35 percent were sourced to old or non-terrorism
investigations, the report found. In a sampling of cases, Fine's staff
found that at least 94 individuals should have been removed. One person
remained on the watch list five years after the underlying terrorism
case had been closed. One was encountered at the White House by Secret
Service agents before a meeting with President George W. Bush.


At least 35 terrorism suspects who should have been on the list were not
included, or their names were submitted after lengthy delays -- in two
cases, three years after investigations were opened. Of these, 12
traveled into or out of the country during the period in which they were
not on the list.


The inspector general's office reviewed 216 terrorism investigations in
Miami, Los Angeles and Minneapolis. Eighty-five were closed cases, at
which time, according to FBI policy, a subject generally should be
removed. However, the FBI was slow to act in 72 percent of cases,
taking, on average, two months to remove a name.


One case agent said his subject was supposed to remain on the watch
list, but he had forgotten to include a justification for doing so in
closing the case. Another agent said she thought the subjects of her two
cases had been removed before the cases were assigned to her. A third
agent said he must have forgotten to submit the removal form.


FBI Assistant Director John Miller said the agency has addressed all 16
recommendations made by the Office of the Inspector General, including
increasing training on watch-listing practices and improving the
accuracy of nominations.


"We remain committed to improving our watch list policy and practices to
ensure the proper balance between national security protection and the
need for accurate, efficient and streamlined watch-listing processes,"
he said.


Sen. Patrick J. Leahy (D-Vt.), Judiciary Committee chairman, said he
found the report "disturbing." "That the FBI continues to fail to place
subjects of terrorism investigations on the watchlist is unacceptable,"
he said in a statement.
- - -


Here's the link Harry.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...09/05/06/AR200...


Why dont' you include a link instead of a snip of an article lone?


Well i suppose a snip is better than a full blown cnp.


You mean you actually believe Thewashingtonstump?


?;^)


Why?

Because I prefer to post an article one can read if one wants to read it.

Here's one for you, from the Christian Moonie paper:

The Washington Times
Wednesday, May 6, 2009
EDITORIAL: We were wrong

We hereby retract our April 28 editorial "Barack's in the basement"
because we misapplied several polling comparisons of various presidents
after their first 100 days in office.

The point of our editorial was that various establishment media outlets
were overstating President Obama's popularity. We continue to believe
that, in terms of the tone of coverage, the point is valid. However, for
data establishing that point, we followed George Mason University
professor Judith Apter Klinghoffer's analysis and compared Gallup
polling data for elected presidents going back to President Nixon. We
did our own analysis but failed to see that some of the polls we were
using did not lend themselves to direct intercomparisons.

Most importantly, we used figures for overall "approval" ratings for
former President George W. Bush - 62 percent - and compared them to the
ratings of "excellent" or "good" for Mr. Obama, which combined were 56
percent. However, when asked the same question - approve or disapprove -
for Mr. Obama for the same three days of his first term, April 20-22,
his rating actually was 65 percent, thus putting him above rather than
below Mr. Bush.

In short, even if our overall figures did not compare oranges to
something almost entirely different like apples, we did at least do
something like comparing oranges to tangerines. But close doesn't cut it
in this business. We regret the errors.

- - -

The real story is that the Washington Times was caught - once again -
spreading the right-wing bull**** of the Unification Church, which calls
all the shots on matters political at that paper.


Well, I never was a moonie nor a follower of Moon. I will agree that
he was a lune.

BAR[_2_] May 7th 09 12:30 PM

The FBI...an agency on which we cannot depend
 
Tim wrote:
On May 6, 10:13 pm, HK wrote:
FBI's Lapses on Terrorist Watch List Put Nation at Risk, Report Warns

By Ellen Nakashima
Washington Post Staff Writer
Thursday, May 7, 2009

The FBI has retained almost 24,000 names on the nation's terrorist watch
list without current or proper justification, while failing to include
people who are subjects of terrorist investigations, according to a
Justice Department report issued yesterday.

The FBI's lapses "create a risk to national security," Justice
Department Inspector General Glenn A. Fine said in the report. In
addition, he said, keeping people on the list improperly can lead to
unnecessary delays for travelers at airports, along highways and elsewhere.

The results also underscore concerns raised by civil liberties advocates
about the list's accuracy and transparency, and its impact on those who
are inappropriately listed -- or confused with someone who is on the list..

The watch list, maintained by the FBI and fed by a number of government
agencies, was created in 2004. As of September, it contained about
400,000 people. With aliases, the list grows to 1.1 million names. About
2 percent of the 400,000 were placed on the list by the FBI, officials
at the agency said.

The report offers the most complete account to date of the flaws in the
way the FBI nominates people for and removes them from the watch list.
The report comes in the wake of an audit from last May that focused on
the lack of uniform nomination procedures across agencies.

Of the 68,000 submissions that the FBI has made to the watch list since
2004, almost 24,000 or 35 percent were sourced to old or non-terrorism
investigations, the report found. In a sampling of cases, Fine's staff
found that at least 94 individuals should have been removed. One person
remained on the watch list five years after the underlying terrorism
case had been closed. One was encountered at the White House by Secret
Service agents before a meeting with President George W. Bush.

At least 35 terrorism suspects who should have been on the list were not
included, or their names were submitted after lengthy delays -- in two
cases, three years after investigations were opened. Of these, 12
traveled into or out of the country during the period in which they were
not on the list.

The inspector general's office reviewed 216 terrorism investigations in
Miami, Los Angeles and Minneapolis. Eighty-five were closed cases, at
which time, according to FBI policy, a subject generally should be
removed. However, the FBI was slow to act in 72 percent of cases,
taking, on average, two months to remove a name.

One case agent said his subject was supposed to remain on the watch
list, but he had forgotten to include a justification for doing so in
closing the case. Another agent said she thought the subjects of her two
cases had been removed before the cases were assigned to her. A third
agent said he must have forgotten to submit the removal form.

FBI Assistant Director John Miller said the agency has addressed all 16
recommendations made by the Office of the Inspector General, including
increasing training on watch-listing practices and improving the
accuracy of nominations.

"We remain committed to improving our watch list policy and practices to
ensure the proper balance between national security protection and the
need for accurate, efficient and streamlined watch-listing processes,"
he said.

Sen. Patrick J. Leahy (D-Vt.), Judiciary Committee chairman, said he
found the report "disturbing." "That the FBI continues to fail to place
subjects of terrorism investigations on the watchlist is unacceptable,"
he said in a statement.
- - -



Here's the link Harry.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...050603968.html

Why dont' you include a link instead of a snip of an article lone?

Well i suppose a snip is better than a full blown cnp.

You mean you actually believe Thewashingtonstump?

?;^)


You need to compare Harry's version of the article with the version that
The Washington Post actually published on their web site. Often times
they differ.

[email protected] May 7th 09 01:38 PM

The FBI...an agency on which we cannot depend
 
On May 7, 7:30*am, BAR wrote:
Tim wrote:
On May 6, 10:13 pm, HK wrote:
FBI's Lapses on Terrorist Watch List Put Nation at Risk, Report Warns


By Ellen Nakashima
Washington Post Staff Writer
Thursday, May 7, 2009


The FBI has retained almost 24,000 names on the nation's terrorist watch
list without current or proper justification, while failing to include
people who are subjects of terrorist investigations, according to a
Justice Department report issued yesterday.


The FBI's lapses "create a risk to national security," Justice
Department Inspector General Glenn A. Fine said in the report. In
addition, he said, keeping people on the list improperly can lead to
unnecessary delays for travelers at airports, along highways and elsewhere.


The results also underscore concerns raised by civil liberties advocates
about the list's accuracy and transparency, and its impact on those who
are inappropriately listed -- or confused with someone who is on the list..


The watch list, maintained by the FBI and fed by a number of government
agencies, was created in 2004. As of September, it contained about
400,000 people. With aliases, the list grows to 1.1 million names. About
2 percent of the 400,000 were placed on the list by the FBI, officials
at the agency said.


The report offers the most complete account to date of the flaws in the
way the FBI nominates people for and removes them from the watch list.
The report comes in the wake of an audit from last May that focused on
the lack of uniform nomination procedures across agencies.


Of the 68,000 submissions that the FBI has made to the watch list since
2004, almost 24,000 or 35 percent were sourced to old or non-terrorism
investigations, the report found. In a sampling of cases, Fine's staff
found that at least 94 individuals should have been removed. One person
remained on the watch list five years after the underlying terrorism
case had been closed. One was encountered at the White House by Secret
Service agents before a meeting with President George W. Bush.


At least 35 terrorism suspects who should have been on the list were not
included, or their names were submitted after lengthy delays -- in two
cases, three years after investigations were opened. Of these, 12
traveled into or out of the country during the period in which they were
not on the list.


The inspector general's office reviewed 216 terrorism investigations in
Miami, Los Angeles and Minneapolis. Eighty-five were closed cases, at
which time, according to FBI policy, a subject generally should be
removed. However, the FBI was slow to act in 72 percent of cases,
taking, on average, two months to remove a name.


One case agent said his subject was supposed to remain on the watch
list, but he had forgotten to include a justification for doing so in
closing the case. Another agent said she thought the subjects of her two
cases had been removed before the cases were assigned to her. A third
agent said he must have forgotten to submit the removal form.


FBI Assistant Director John Miller said the agency has addressed all 16
recommendations made by the Office of the Inspector General, including
increasing training on watch-listing practices and improving the
accuracy of nominations.


"We remain committed to improving our watch list policy and practices to
ensure the proper balance between national security protection and the
need for accurate, efficient and streamlined watch-listing processes,"
he said.


Sen. Patrick J. Leahy (D-Vt.), Judiciary Committee chairman, said he
found the report "disturbing." "That the FBI continues to fail to place
subjects of terrorism investigations on the watchlist is unacceptable,"
he said in a statement.
- - -


Here's the link Harry.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...09/05/06/AR200...


Why dont' you include a link instead of a snip of an article lone?


Well i suppose a snip is better than a full blown cnp.


You mean you actually believe Thewashingtonstump?


?;^)


You need to compare Harry's version of the article with the version that
The Washington Post actually published on their web site. Often times
they differ.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Are you suggesting that Harry would be less than honest and forthright
here???

BAR[_2_] May 7th 09 01:42 PM

The FBI...an agency on which we cannot depend
 
wrote:
On May 7, 7:30 am, BAR wrote:
Tim wrote:
On May 6, 10:13 pm, HK wrote:
FBI's Lapses on Terrorist Watch List Put Nation at Risk, Report Warns
By Ellen Nakashima
Washington Post Staff Writer
Thursday, May 7, 2009
The FBI has retained almost 24,000 names on the nation's terrorist watch
list without current or proper justification, while failing to include
people who are subjects of terrorist investigations, according to a
Justice Department report issued yesterday.
The FBI's lapses "create a risk to national security," Justice
Department Inspector General Glenn A. Fine said in the report. In
addition, he said, keeping people on the list improperly can lead to
unnecessary delays for travelers at airports, along highways and elsewhere.
The results also underscore concerns raised by civil liberties advocates
about the list's accuracy and transparency, and its impact on those who
are inappropriately listed -- or confused with someone who is on the list..
The watch list, maintained by the FBI and fed by a number of government
agencies, was created in 2004. As of September, it contained about
400,000 people. With aliases, the list grows to 1.1 million names. About
2 percent of the 400,000 were placed on the list by the FBI, officials
at the agency said.
The report offers the most complete account to date of the flaws in the
way the FBI nominates people for and removes them from the watch list.
The report comes in the wake of an audit from last May that focused on
the lack of uniform nomination procedures across agencies.
Of the 68,000 submissions that the FBI has made to the watch list since
2004, almost 24,000 or 35 percent were sourced to old or non-terrorism
investigations, the report found. In a sampling of cases, Fine's staff
found that at least 94 individuals should have been removed. One person
remained on the watch list five years after the underlying terrorism
case had been closed. One was encountered at the White House by Secret
Service agents before a meeting with President George W. Bush.
At least 35 terrorism suspects who should have been on the list were not
included, or their names were submitted after lengthy delays -- in two
cases, three years after investigations were opened. Of these, 12
traveled into or out of the country during the period in which they were
not on the list.
The inspector general's office reviewed 216 terrorism investigations in
Miami, Los Angeles and Minneapolis. Eighty-five were closed cases, at
which time, according to FBI policy, a subject generally should be
removed. However, the FBI was slow to act in 72 percent of cases,
taking, on average, two months to remove a name.
One case agent said his subject was supposed to remain on the watch
list, but he had forgotten to include a justification for doing so in
closing the case. Another agent said she thought the subjects of her two
cases had been removed before the cases were assigned to her. A third
agent said he must have forgotten to submit the removal form.
FBI Assistant Director John Miller said the agency has addressed all 16
recommendations made by the Office of the Inspector General, including
increasing training on watch-listing practices and improving the
accuracy of nominations.
"We remain committed to improving our watch list policy and practices to
ensure the proper balance between national security protection and the
need for accurate, efficient and streamlined watch-listing processes,"
he said.
Sen. Patrick J. Leahy (D-Vt.), Judiciary Committee chairman, said he
found the report "disturbing." "That the FBI continues to fail to place
subjects of terrorism investigations on the watchlist is unacceptable,"
he said in a statement.
- - -
Here's the link Harry.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...09/05/06/AR200...
Why dont' you include a link instead of a snip of an article lone?
Well i suppose a snip is better than a full blown cnp.
You mean you actually believe Thewashingtonstump?
?;^)

You need to compare Harry's version of the article with the version that
The Washington Post actually published on their web site. Often times
they differ.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Are you suggesting that Harry would be less than honest and forthright
here???


I am not suggesting it, I am stating it.

jim78565 May 7th 09 03:23 PM

The FBI...an agency on which we cannot depend
 
HK wrote:
Tim wrote:
On May 6, 10:13 pm, HK wrote:
FBI's Lapses on Terrorist Watch List Put Nation at Risk, Report Warns

By Ellen Nakashima
Washington Post Staff Writer
Thursday, May 7, 2009

The FBI has retained almost 24,000 names on the nation's terrorist watch
list without current or proper justification, while failing to include
people who are subjects of terrorist investigations, according to a
Justice Department report issued yesterday.

The FBI's lapses "create a risk to national security," Justice
Department Inspector General Glenn A. Fine said in the report. In
addition, he said, keeping people on the list improperly can lead to
unnecessary delays for travelers at airports, along highways and
elsewhere.

The results also underscore concerns raised by civil liberties advocates
about the list's accuracy and transparency, and its impact on those who
are inappropriately listed -- or confused with someone who is on the
list.

The watch list, maintained by the FBI and fed by a number of government
agencies, was created in 2004. As of September, it contained about
400,000 people. With aliases, the list grows to 1.1 million names. About
2 percent of the 400,000 were placed on the list by the FBI, officials
at the agency said.

The report offers the most complete account to date of the flaws in the
way the FBI nominates people for and removes them from the watch list.
The report comes in the wake of an audit from last May that focused on
the lack of uniform nomination procedures across agencies.

Of the 68,000 submissions that the FBI has made to the watch list since
2004, almost 24,000 or 35 percent were sourced to old or non-terrorism
investigations, the report found. In a sampling of cases, Fine's staff
found that at least 94 individuals should have been removed. One person
remained on the watch list five years after the underlying terrorism
case had been closed. One was encountered at the White House by Secret
Service agents before a meeting with President George W. Bush.

At least 35 terrorism suspects who should have been on the list were not
included, or their names were submitted after lengthy delays -- in two
cases, three years after investigations were opened. Of these, 12
traveled into or out of the country during the period in which they were
not on the list.

The inspector general's office reviewed 216 terrorism investigations in
Miami, Los Angeles and Minneapolis. Eighty-five were closed cases, at
which time, according to FBI policy, a subject generally should be
removed. However, the FBI was slow to act in 72 percent of cases,
taking, on average, two months to remove a name.

One case agent said his subject was supposed to remain on the watch
list, but he had forgotten to include a justification for doing so in
closing the case. Another agent said she thought the subjects of her two
cases had been removed before the cases were assigned to her. A third
agent said he must have forgotten to submit the removal form.

FBI Assistant Director John Miller said the agency has addressed all 16
recommendations made by the Office of the Inspector General, including
increasing training on watch-listing practices and improving the
accuracy of nominations.

"We remain committed to improving our watch list policy and practices to
ensure the proper balance between national security protection and the
need for accurate, efficient and streamlined watch-listing processes,"
he said.

Sen. Patrick J. Leahy (D-Vt.), Judiciary Committee chairman, said he
found the report "disturbing." "That the FBI continues to fail to place
subjects of terrorism investigations on the watchlist is unacceptable,"
he said in a statement.
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Here's the link Harry.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...050603968.html


Why dont' you include a link instead of a snip of an article lone?

Well i suppose a snip is better than a full blown cnp.

You mean you actually believe Thewashingtonstump?

?;^)



Why?

Because I prefer to post an article one can read if one wants to read it.

Here's one for you, from the Christian Moonie paper:


The Washington Times
Wednesday, May 6, 2009
EDITORIAL: We were wrong

We hereby retract our April 28 editorial "Barack's in the basement"
because we misapplied several polling comparisons of various presidents
after their first 100 days in office.

The point of our editorial was that various establishment media outlets
were overstating President Obama's popularity. We continue to believe
that, in terms of the tone of coverage, the point is valid. However, for
data establishing that point, we followed George Mason University
professor Judith Apter Klinghoffer's analysis and compared Gallup
polling data for elected presidents going back to President Nixon. We
did our own analysis but failed to see that some of the polls we were
using did not lend themselves to direct intercomparisons.

Most importantly, we used figures for overall "approval" ratings for
former President George W. Bush - 62 percent - and compared them to the
ratings of "excellent" or "good" for Mr. Obama, which combined were 56
percent. However, when asked the same question - approve or disapprove -
for Mr. Obama for the same three days of his first term, April 20-22,
his rating actually was 65 percent, thus putting him above rather than
below Mr. Bush.

In short, even if our overall figures did not compare oranges to
something almost entirely different like apples, we did at least do
something like comparing oranges to tangerines. But close doesn't cut it
in this business. We regret the errors.

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The real story is that the Washington Times was caught - once again -
spreading the right-wing bull**** of the Unification Church, which calls
all the shots on matters political at that paper.


Poor Krausie He doesn't know that polls can be manipulated to favor
whatever the reader chooses. Time and time again Krausie is blinded by
the truth and sees only what HE wants to see. Poor,fat, dumb, nail
chewing, gun toting, lying, bigoted, racist slob.


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