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On Thu, 23 Apr 2009 21:08:20 -0600, "SteveB"
wrote:

What's a good type of rope for 100' of fresh water anchor line, 15# anchor?

Steve


Half inch three strand nylon. One outfit has anchor rodes in at least
six colors, several lengths, several sizes. One size smaller should be
strong enough, but harder on the hands. Buy one with the eyesplice and
thimble included. Don't forget to buy a shackle.

Casady

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Richard Casady wrote:
On Thu, 23 Apr 2009 21:08:20 -0600, "SteveB"
wrote:

What's a good type of rope for 100' of fresh water anchor line, 15# anchor?

Steve


Half inch three strand nylon. One outfit has anchor rodes in at least
six colors, several lengths, several sizes. One size smaller should be
strong enough, but harder on the hands. Buy one with the eyesplice and
thimble included. Don't forget to buy a shackle.

Casady

Half inch anchor line? For what size boat and what sort of waters? 3/8"
might be more appropriate.

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Sorry I didn't put in all the info. This is a 2 square mile lake, deepest
part, 190 feet, but most of it 100' or less, and that's where the fish hang
out. I have a 10# anchor that came with the boat, and it is of the smooth
braided line, but is in two segments that total about 50' total. The bottom
is mostly sandy or muddy, and not a lot of areas where there are rocks to
catch on. Kind of like the braided, as it is easy on the hands. Manila or
sisal would be harder on the hands, and actually 1/2' sounds good, although
it is far stronger than needed. Just wanted comments and input as per
longevity, cost, rate of wear, those things. Boat is 16' Aluminum Lund. No
current. No wind. (If if's windy, I don't go, or go home.)

Steve

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On Fri, 24 Apr 2009 06:58:05 -0500, Richard Casady
wrote:

Half inch three strand nylon.

Overkill for all normal conditions. I anchored a 34 ft, 10,000 pound
boat for many years using half inch nylon. 3/8ths is more than
enough.

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"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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On Fri, 24 Apr 2009 06:58:05 -0500, Richard Casady
wrote:

Half inch three strand nylon.

Overkill for all normal conditions. I anchored a 34 ft, 10,000 pound
boat for many years using half inch nylon. 3/8ths is more than
enough.

Now that I went to the garage and looked at a hank of 3/8" rope, I agree.
Looks like 3/8" nylon it is.

Steve

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"SteveB" wrote in message
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"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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On Fri, 24 Apr 2009 06:58:05 -0500, Richard Casady
wrote:

Half inch three strand nylon.

Overkill for all normal conditions. I anchored a 34 ft, 10,000 pound
boat for many years using half inch nylon. 3/8ths is more than
enough.

Now that I went to the garage and looked at a hank of 3/8" rope, I agree.
Looks like 3/8" nylon it is.

Steve


1/4" will work. Your hands will hate you for it.

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On Fri, 24 Apr 2009 23:14:04 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Fri, 24 Apr 2009 06:58:05 -0500, Richard Casady
wrote:

Half inch three strand nylon.

Overkill for all normal conditions. I anchored a 34 ft, 10,000 pound
boat for many years using half inch nylon. 3/8ths is more than
enough.

I noted that smaller would do, but recommended 1/2 for the sake of the
hands. If you go with the skinnier stuff, it would stretch more, an
advantage, and you can always use heavy gloves to protect the hands.
Three strand is cheaper, and stretches more.

Casady

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"SteveB" wrote in message
...
Sorry I didn't put in all the info. This is a 2 square mile lake, deepest
part, 190 feet, but most of it 100' or less, and that's where the fish
hang out. I have a 10# anchor that came with the boat, and it is of the
smooth braided line, but is in two segments that total about 50' total.
The bottom is mostly sandy or muddy, and not a lot of areas where there
are rocks to catch on. Kind of like the braided, as it is easy on the
hands. Manila or sisal would be harder on the hands, and actually 1/2'
sounds good, although it is far stronger than needed. Just wanted
comments and input as per longevity, cost, rate of wear, those things.
Boat is 16' Aluminum Lund. No current. No wind. (If if's windy, I don't
go, or go home.)

Steve

Steve,
If theres no wind or current and you just want to maintain position over a
favorite spot, how about just using a weight? You wouldn't need a lot of
line for scope and I'd think a 25 lb hunk of lead would work.
For anchoring in rocks a welded rebar grapple works good. When, not if it
gets caught, you can pull it out because the rebar will bend out. After you
retrieve, you bend it back into shape.

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"mmc" wrote in message
g.com...

"SteveB" wrote in message
...
Sorry I didn't put in all the info. This is a 2 square mile lake,
deepest part, 190 feet, but most of it 100' or less, and that's where the
fish hang out. I have a 10# anchor that came with the boat, and it is of
the smooth braided line, but is in two segments that total about 50'
total. The bottom is mostly sandy or muddy, and not a lot of areas where
there are rocks to catch on. Kind of like the braided, as it is easy on
the hands. Manila or sisal would be harder on the hands, and actually
1/2' sounds good, although it is far stronger than needed. Just wanted
comments and input as per longevity, cost, rate of wear, those things.
Boat is 16' Aluminum Lund. No current. No wind. (If if's windy, I
don't go, or go home.)

Steve

Steve,
If theres no wind or current and you just want to maintain position over a
favorite spot, how about just using a weight? You wouldn't need a lot of
line for scope and I'd think a 25 lb hunk of lead would work.
For anchoring in rocks a welded rebar grapple works good. When, not if it
gets caught, you can pull it out because the rebar will bend out. After
you retrieve, you bend it back into shape.

Lets see.......... I'm a welder, and I have all sorts of junk and rebar
laying around. I wonder who I could get to make me one of those.

Thanks for the great idea.

Last time out, that little ten pounder was keeping us right at the point
where we stopped. With current or wind, the line would need to be longer,
but the 40something feet of line we had that day worked.

I've seen those big coffee cans filled with concrete and a rebar U poured
into it that worked fine.

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On Fri, 24 Apr 2009 20:18:43 -0600, "SteveB"
wrote:

Sorry I didn't put in all the info. This is a 2 square mile lake, deepest
part, 190 feet, but most of it 100' or less, and that's where the fish hang
out. I have a 10# anchor that came with the boat, and it is of the smooth
braided line, but is in two segments that total about 50' total. The bottom
is mostly sandy or muddy, and not a lot of areas where there are rocks to
catch on. Kind of like the braided, as it is easy on the hands. Manila or
sisal would be harder on the hands, and actually 1/2' sounds good, although
it is far stronger than needed. Just wanted comments and input as per
longevity, cost, rate of wear, those things. Boat is 16' Aluminum Lund. No
current. No wind. (If if's windy, I don't go, or go home.)

Steve


I'm with you on the 1/2" rode. I've got the room for 1/2", and the
extra cost was worth the wear and tear on the hands. A set of these
inserted in the line will let you know how much is out. They're handy.

http://tinyurl.com/dz4aw6
--

John H

"My reading of history convinces me that most bad government
results from too much government."

Thomas Jefferson

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Went to HD today. 100' 3/8" nylon is $28. 100' 3/8" braided is $8 and
change. Why such a difference? I know sisal would be cheap, but the
braided looks decent.

Steve

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On Sat, 25 Apr 2009 11:05:02 -0600, "SteveB"
wrote:


"mmc" wrote in message
ng.com...

"SteveB" wrote in message
...
Sorry I didn't put in all the info. This is a 2 square mile lake,
deepest part, 190 feet, but most of it 100' or less, and that's where the
fish hang out. I have a 10# anchor that came with the boat, and it is of
the smooth braided line, but is in two segments that total about 50'
total. The bottom is mostly sandy or muddy, and not a lot of areas where
there are rocks to catch on. Kind of like the braided, as it is easy on
the hands. Manila or sisal would be harder on the hands, and actually
1/2' sounds good, although it is far stronger than needed. Just wanted
comments and input as per longevity, cost, rate of wear, those things.
Boat is 16' Aluminum Lund. No current. No wind. (If if's windy, I
don't go, or go home.)

Steve

Steve,
If theres no wind or current and you just want to maintain position over a
favorite spot, how about just using a weight? You wouldn't need a lot of
line for scope and I'd think a 25 lb hunk of lead would work.
For anchoring in rocks a welded rebar grapple works good. When, not if it
gets caught, you can pull it out because the rebar will bend out. After
you retrieve, you bend it back into shape.

Lets see.......... I'm a welder, and I have all sorts of junk and rebar
laying around. I wonder who I could get to make me one of those.

Thanks for the great idea.

Last time out, that little ten pounder was keeping us right at the point
where we stopped. With current or wind, the line would need to be longer,
but the 40something feet of line we had that day worked.

I've seen those big coffee cans filled with concrete and a rebar U poured
into it that worked fine.

Here's a home made "grapple" type - no welding necessary.
Looks like a real good idea.
http://gulffishing.com/ClearwaterTragedy.html

I had a small factory made "grapple" anchor years ago, only anchor I
ever bought. Lead cyclinder with bendable rods imbedded in the lead.
Suitable for a small boat or canoe. Maybe 18" long, 4-5 pounds.
Backup, as I rented a lot of fishing boats. Had it in my tackle box
for years but never even bent out the rods.
Most of the rentals and our boat had coffee can concrete with a
u-bolt. Occasionally a mushroom anchor. Lakes, no current.
The ocean guys pay big money for anchors. Fun to read them arguing
about them. Lots of "science" involved.
Getting a set, backing down to set, diving to ensure a set, anchor
alarms connected to GPS, etc.
Pulling loose during a wind in the middle of the night in a crowded
anchorage and drifting into each other, cussing, shouting.
Waking up thinking you're drifting when you're not.
Probably like a dream I've had about driving a car and the brakes
don't work.
Whole different ball game than dropping a coffee can, setting the
fishing rod between your toe and falling asleep.

--Vic

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On Apr 25, 1:05*pm, "SteveB" wrote:
"mmc" wrote in message

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"SteveB" wrote in message
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Sorry I didn't put in all the info. *This is a 2 square mile lake,
deepest part, 190 feet, but most of it 100' or less, and that's where the
fish hang out. *I have a 10# anchor that came with the boat, and it is of
the smooth braided line, but is in two segments that total about 50'
total. The bottom is mostly sandy or muddy, and not a lot of areas where
there are rocks to catch on. *Kind of like the braided, as it is easy on
the hands. *Manila or sisal would be harder on the hands, and actually
1/2' sounds good, although it is far stronger than needed. *Just wanted
comments and input as per longevity, cost, rate of wear, those things.
Boat is 16' Aluminum Lund. *No current. *No wind. *(If if's windy, I
don't go, or go home.)

Steve

Steve,
If theres no wind or current and you just want to maintain position over a
favorite spot, how about just using a weight? You wouldn't need a lot of
line for scope and I'd think a 25 lb hunk of lead would work.
For anchoring in rocks a welded rebar grapple works good. When, not if it
gets caught, you can pull it out because the rebar will bend out. After
you retrieve, you bend it back into shape.

Lets see.......... I'm a welder, and I have all sorts of junk and rebar
laying around. *I wonder who I could get to make me one of those.

Thanks for the great idea.

Last time out, that little ten pounder was keeping us right at the point
where we stopped. *With current or wind, the line would need to be longer,
but the 40something feet of line we had that day worked.

I've seen those big coffee cans filled with concrete and a rebar U poured
into it that worked fine.

I can just hear the laughter over that idea....a new 20 foot Parker,
with a trashy-looking coffee can anchor...lol. Leave that idea to the
Dwarf Army idiots.
If you cant afford a decent anchor, you cant afford to run a boat.

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"Vic Smith" wrote in message
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On Sat, 25 Apr 2009 11:05:02 -0600, "SteveB"
wrote:


"mmc" wrote in message
ing.com...

"SteveB" wrote in message
...
Sorry I didn't put in all the info. This is a 2 square mile lake,
deepest part, 190 feet, but most of it 100' or less, and that's where
the
fish hang out. I have a 10# anchor that came with the boat, and it is
of
the smooth braided line, but is in two segments that total about 50'
total. The bottom is mostly sandy or muddy, and not a lot of areas
where
there are rocks to catch on. Kind of like the braided, as it is easy
on
the hands. Manila or sisal would be harder on the hands, and actually
1/2' sounds good, although it is far stronger than needed. Just wanted
comments and input as per longevity, cost, rate of wear, those things.
Boat is 16' Aluminum Lund. No current. No wind. (If if's windy, I
don't go, or go home.)

Steve

Steve,
If theres no wind or current and you just want to maintain position over
a
favorite spot, how about just using a weight? You wouldn't need a lot of
line for scope and I'd think a 25 lb hunk of lead would work.
For anchoring in rocks a welded rebar grapple works good. When, not if
it
gets caught, you can pull it out because the rebar will bend out. After
you retrieve, you bend it back into shape.

Lets see.......... I'm a welder, and I have all sorts of junk and rebar
laying around. I wonder who I could get to make me one of those.

Thanks for the great idea.

Last time out, that little ten pounder was keeping us right at the point
where we stopped. With current or wind, the line would need to be longer,
but the 40something feet of line we had that day worked.

I've seen those big coffee cans filled with concrete and a rebar U poured
into it that worked fine.

Here's a home made "grapple" type - no welding necessary.
Looks like a real good idea.
http://gulffishing.com/ClearwaterTragedy.html

I had a small factory made "grapple" anchor years ago, only anchor I
ever bought. Lead cyclinder with bendable rods imbedded in the lead.
Suitable for a small boat or canoe. Maybe 18" long, 4-5 pounds.
Backup, as I rented a lot of fishing boats. Had it in my tackle box
for years but never even bent out the rods.
Most of the rentals and our boat had coffee can concrete with a
u-bolt. Occasionally a mushroom anchor. Lakes, no current.
The ocean guys pay big money for anchors. Fun to read them arguing
about them. Lots of "science" involved.
Getting a set, backing down to set, diving to ensure a set, anchor
alarms connected to GPS, etc.
Pulling loose during a wind in the middle of the night in a crowded
anchorage and drifting into each other, cussing, shouting.
Waking up thinking you're drifting when you're not.
Probably like a dream I've had about driving a car and the brakes
don't work.
Whole different ball game than dropping a coffee can, setting the
fishing rod between your toe and falling asleep.

--Vic

I used to dive a lot in Lake Mead and the Colorado River below Hoover dam.
I found lots and lots of anchors. Some were really wedged in there!

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On Apr 25, 10:33*pm, wrote:
On Apr 25, 1:05*pm, "SteveB" wrote:





"mmc" wrote in message

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"SteveB" wrote in message
...
Sorry I didn't put in all the info. *This is a 2 square mile lake,
deepest part, 190 feet, but most of it 100' or less, and that's where the
fish hang out. *I have a 10# anchor that came with the boat, and it is of
the smooth braided line, but is in two segments that total about 50'
total. The bottom is mostly sandy or muddy, and not a lot of areas where
there are rocks to catch on. *Kind of like the braided, as it is easy on
the hands. *Manila or sisal would be harder on the hands, and actually
1/2' sounds good, although it is far stronger than needed. *Just wanted
comments and input as per longevity, cost, rate of wear, those things.
Boat is 16' Aluminum Lund. *No current. *No wind. *(If if's windy, I
don't go, or go home.)

Steve

Steve,
If theres no wind or current and you just want to maintain position over a
favorite spot, how about just using a weight? You wouldn't need a lot of
line for scope and I'd think a 25 lb hunk of lead would work.
For anchoring in rocks a welded rebar grapple works good. When, not if it
gets caught, you can pull it out because the rebar will bend out. After
you retrieve, you bend it back into shape.

Lets see.......... I'm a welder, and I have all sorts of junk and rebar
laying around. *I wonder who I could get to make me one of those.

Thanks for the great idea.

Last time out, that little ten pounder was keeping us right at the point
where we stopped. *With current or wind, the line would need to be longer,
but the 40something feet of line we had that day worked.

I've seen those big coffee cans filled with concrete and a rebar U poured
into it that worked fine.

I can just hear the laughter over that idea....a new 20 foot Parker,
with a trashy-looking coffee can anchor...lol. Leave that idea to the
Dwarf Army idiots.
If you cant afford a decent anchor, you cant afford to run a boat.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

If it does the intended job well, what difference does it make? Oh, I
get it, you are the type, that because you're a low life failure, that
you need to have the store bought type, less someone make fun of you.
Hmm, that makes me think of something, Harry is a low life vulgar
piece of trash also, and also like you, he's a narcissist.

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On Apr 25, 10:33*pm, wrote:
On Apr 25, 1:05*pm, "SteveB" wrote:





"mmc" wrote in message

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"SteveB" wrote in message
...
Sorry I didn't put in all the info. *This is a 2 square mile lake,
deepest part, 190 feet, but most of it 100' or less, and that's where the
fish hang out. *I have a 10# anchor that came with the boat, and it is of
the smooth braided line, but is in two segments that total about 50'
total. The bottom is mostly sandy or muddy, and not a lot of areas where
there are rocks to catch on. *Kind of like the braided, as it is easy on
the hands. *Manila or sisal would be harder on the hands, and actually
1/2' sounds good, although it is far stronger than needed. *Just wanted
comments and input as per longevity, cost, rate of wear, those things.
Boat is 16' Aluminum Lund. *No current. *No wind. *(If if's windy, I
don't go, or go home.)

Steve

Steve,
If theres no wind or current and you just want to maintain position over a
favorite spot, how about just using a weight? You wouldn't need a lot of
line for scope and I'd think a 25 lb hunk of lead would work.
For anchoring in rocks a welded rebar grapple works good. When, not if it
gets caught, you can pull it out because the rebar will bend out. After
you retrieve, you bend it back into shape.

Lets see.......... I'm a welder, and I have all sorts of junk and rebar
laying around. *I wonder who I could get to make me one of those.

Thanks for the great idea.

Last time out, that little ten pounder was keeping us right at the point
where we stopped. *With current or wind, the line would need to be longer,
but the 40something feet of line we had that day worked.

I've seen those big coffee cans filled with concrete and a rebar U poured
into it that worked fine.

I can just hear the laughter over that idea....a new 20 foot Parker,
with a trashy-looking coffee can anchor...

If you cant afford a decent anchor, you cant afford to run a boat.-

If it does the intended job well, what difference does it make?

The summer camp I went to had five fifteen foot sailboats and a 20
foot C scow. They were on moorings. Anchors were five gallon cans of
concrete. They had been known to drag in thunderstorms, but usually
not. At 150 pounds per cubic foot, five gallons comes to 100 pounds.
There is no reason you couldn't have pieces of rebar sticking out like
the horns on a naval mine.

Casady
Casady