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[email protected] April 23rd 09 07:54 PM

Corrupt Elites Plan Dispossession of American Citizens
 
On Thu, 23 Apr 2009 10:18:22 -0700, Felix wrote:


Stop Immigration, Start Deportation

Commentary by Mitchell Brooks

When someone, say myself, obsessively scans the news every single day
they will probably develop an overwhelming fear of the current
situation within the United States. This is especially true if one
reads real news; the kind that is now found almost exclusively on the
Internet. The contrast between mainstream news sources and Internet
news sites is astounding, especially as it pertains to the topic of
immigration.

I am convinced that immigration, legal and illegal, is the most deadly
threat to the United States. The facts are in and the facts are
powerful and disturbing. These facts will rarely be presented by the
mainstream press. The third-world immigrant invasion will be
portrayed, if it is portrayed at all, as a wonderful development
bringing lively, diverse and joyous gifts to the drab old U.S. of A.
At the very least, immigrants will be portrayed as morally superior
victims.

If you think overpopulation, ignorance, crime, disease, dependence on
government handouts, grist for the racist affirmative-action mill,
depressed wages, and cultural balkanization are wonderful new
developments then you are no doubt brimming with enthusiasm for the
destruction of your own country. You might also be a member of the
ACLU, the Southern Poverty Law Center, the Democratic Party, the Bush
wing of the Republican Party or some other organization. Or perhaps
you are just a victim of politically-correct social engineering.
Whatever the case, I predict many of you will be shocked when all the
group hugs you have planned prove to resemble Maoist self-criticism
sessions.

But if you are looking for the facts and are prepared to act on them
you might have to put out a little effort. Once that's done the bad
news is that there is precious little good news.

Every time citizens' groups manage to thwart legislation that would
give amnesty to illegal aliens or increase legal immigration it is
ultimately a meaningless victory. As long as our current leadership is
in place they will continue to refuse to enforce the inadequate
immigration laws we have and they will continue to plot with
American's enemies, foreign and domestic, to increase the immigrant
invasion.

The only hope is for a massive defection from the two major parties
that are plotting the dispossession of American citizens.

A fine evaluation of a problem that will be terminal for America
unless corrected.

ted



JJ[_3_] April 23rd 09 08:00 PM

Corrupt Elites Plan Dispossession of American Citizens
 
Lets start with the Irish, no, maybe the Scandinavians, Germans, Slavs, no,
even better, lets throw out the people who first came over and all their
descendants.

There you go, anyone less than one quarter native American, GTFO.

JJ

[email protected] April 23rd 09 09:38 PM

Corrupt Elites Plan Dispossession of American Citizens
 
On Apr 23, 2:54*pm, wrote:
On Thu, 23 Apr 2009 10:18:22 -0700, Felix wrote:

Stop Immigration, Start Deportation


Commentary by Mitchell Brooks


When someone, say myself, obsessively scans the news every single day
they will probably develop an overwhelming fear of the current
situation within the United States. This is especially true if one
reads real news; the kind that is now found almost exclusively on the
Internet. The contrast between mainstream news sources and Internet
news sites is astounding, especially as it pertains to the topic of
immigration.


I am convinced that immigration, legal and illegal, is the most deadly
threat to the United States. The facts are in and the facts are
powerful and disturbing. These facts will rarely be presented by the
mainstream press. The third-world immigrant invasion will be
portrayed, if it is portrayed at all, as a wonderful development
bringing lively, diverse and joyous gifts to the drab old U.S. of A.
At the very least, immigrants will be portrayed as morally superior
victims.


If you think overpopulation, ignorance, crime, disease, dependence on
government handouts, grist for the racist affirmative-action mill,
depressed wages, and cultural balkanization are wonderful new
developments then you are no doubt brimming with enthusiasm for the
destruction of your own country. You might also be a member of the
ACLU, the Southern Poverty Law Center, the Democratic Party, the Bush
wing of the Republican Party or some other organization. Or perhaps
you are just a victim of politically-correct social engineering.
Whatever the case, I predict many of you will be shocked when all the
group hugs you have planned prove to resemble Maoist self-criticism
sessions.


But if you are looking for the facts and are prepared to act on them
you might have to put out a little effort. Once that's done the bad
news is that there is precious little good news.


Every time citizens' groups manage to thwart legislation that would
give amnesty to illegal aliens or increase legal immigration it is
ultimately a meaningless victory. As long as our current leadership is
in place they will continue to refuse to enforce the inadequate
immigration laws we have and they will continue to plot with
American's enemies, foreign and domestic, to increase the immigrant
invasion.


The only hope is for a massive defection from the two major parties
that are plotting the dispossession of American citizens.


A fine evaluation of a problem *that will be terminal for America
unless corrected.

ted



Dont worry, this sock-puppet has been terminated by Google....LMAO !

Morbius April 27th 09 03:30 AM

Corrupt Elites Plan Dispossession of American Citizens
 
On Apr 23, 2:54*pm, wrote:
On Thu, 23 Apr 2009 10:18:22 -0700, Felix wrote:

Stop Immigration, Start Deportation


Commentary by Mitchell Brooks


When someone, say myself, obsessively scans the news every single day
they will probably develop an overwhelming fear of the current
situation within the United States. This is especially true if one
reads real news; the kind that is now found almost exclusively on the
Internet. The contrast between mainstream news sources and Internet
news sites is astounding, especially as it pertains to the topic of
immigration.


I am convinced that immigration, legal and illegal, is the most deadly
threat to the United States. The facts are in and the facts are
powerful and disturbing. These facts will rarely be presented by the
mainstream press. The third-world immigrant invasion will be
portrayed, if it is portrayed at all, as a wonderful development
bringing lively, diverse and joyous gifts to the drab old U.S. of A.
At the very least, immigrants will be portrayed as morally superior
victims.


If you think overpopulation, ignorance, crime, disease, dependence on
government handouts, grist for the racist affirmative-action mill,
depressed wages, and cultural balkanization are wonderful new
developments then you are no doubt brimming with enthusiasm for the
destruction of your own country. You might also be a member of the
ACLU, the Southern Poverty Law Center, the Democratic Party, the Bush
wing of the Republican Party or some other organization. Or perhaps
you are just a victim of politically-correct social engineering.
Whatever the case, I predict many of you will be shocked when all the
group hugs you have planned prove to resemble Maoist self-criticism
sessions.


But if you are looking for the facts and are prepared to act on them
you might have to put out a little effort. Once that's done the bad
news is that there is precious little good news.


Every time citizens' groups manage to thwart legislation that would
give amnesty to illegal aliens or increase legal immigration it is
ultimately a meaningless victory. As long as our current leadership is
in place they will continue to refuse to enforce the inadequate
immigration laws we have and they will continue to plot with
American's enemies, foreign and domestic, to increase the immigrant
invasion.


The only hope is for a massive defection from the two major parties
that are plotting the dispossession of American citizens.


A fine evaluation of a problem *that will be terminal for America
unless corrected.

ted



Yup, the rich suck.
They donate way more to the democratic party and the CEOs of big
companies are hugely disproportionatly democrat.
People assume the leaders of these troubled companies screwing the
taxpayers by getting bailouts are repubs.But no, same as the people
who started this crap with frannie may and freddie mac( see frank,
barney) this is liberals screwing us all over.
Ok.
I didnt read the thread you posted.
Why bother, i know my role.

Long Ranger[_2_] April 27th 09 07:11 AM

Corrupt Elites Plan Dispossession of American Citizens
 

Yup, the rich suck.
They donate way more to the democratic party and the CEOs of big
companies are hugely disproportionatly democrat.
People assume the leaders of these troubled companies screwing the
taxpayers by getting bailouts are repubs.But no, same as the people
who started this crap with frannie may and freddie mac( see frank,
barney) this is liberals screwing us all over.
Ok.
I didnt read the thread you posted.
Why bother, i know my role.

In fact, of the "Fortune 100 companies", they donate at a rate of about 14.5
to 1 to Democrats over Republicans. (Oh, look, there goes another
trillion......)



z April 27th 09 07:15 AM

Corrupt Elites Plan Dispossession of American Citizens
 
On Apr 23, 2:54*pm, wrote:

I am convinced that immigration, legal and illegal, is the most deadly
threat to the United States. The facts are in and the facts are


cool. so what tribe are you? sioux? cherokee?

z April 27th 09 07:23 AM

Corrupt Elites Plan Dispossession of American Citizens
 
On Apr 27, 2:11*am, "Long Ranger" wrote:

In fact, of the "Fortune 100 companies", they donate at a rate of about 14.5
to 1 to Democrats over Republicans. (Oh, look, there goes another
trillion......)


"In fact, the grant-making was lopsided: The political left received
nearly $59 million, while the political right received only about $4
million, a ratio of 14.5 to 1.

The Wildlife Conservation Society, which took in a huge $35-million
grant from the Goldman Sachs Foundation, was the top beneficiary on
the political left of Fortune 100 foundation giving. It was followed
by the Conservation International Foundation ($4.5 million), the
National Council of La Raza ($2.9 million) and the Nature Conservancy
($1.9 million).

The American Enterprise Institute received $575,000, which was the
largest single Fortune 100 grant to a group on the right, followed by
the Competitive Enterprise Institute ($325,000) and the Employment
Policies Institute ($275,000)."
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=16588

good call there;
wildlife conservation society = democrats.
conservation international foundation =democrats
national council of la raza = democrats
nature conservancy = democrats.

you don't see those nature groups as being fundamentally different
from the AEI, or the CEI, other than in democrats vs republicans?

JDH April 27th 09 02:32 PM

Corrupt Elites Plan Dispossession of American Citizens
 
z wrote:
On Apr 23, 2:54 pm, wrote:

I am convinced that immigration, legal and illegal, is the most deadly
threat to the United States. The facts are in and the facts are


cool. so what tribe are you? sioux? cherokee?



There are not indigenous human populations of North America. Even the
"indians" ancestors immigrated here across the land bridge from Siberia.

Long Ranger[_2_] April 27th 09 02:41 PM

Corrupt Elites Plan Dispossession of American Citizens
 

"JDH" wrote in message
...
z wrote:
On Apr 23, 2:54 pm, wrote:

I am convinced that immigration, legal and illegal, is the most deadly
threat to the United States. The facts are in and the facts are


cool. so what tribe are you? sioux? cherokee?



There are not indigenous human populations of North America. Even the
"indians" ancestors immigrated here across the land bridge from Siberia.


Plus, we kicked their asses and conquered them, fair and square. Much like
the Mexicans are doing to us now, only with different methodology.



SaPeIsMa April 27th 09 04:41 PM

Corrupt Elites Plan Dispossession of American Citizens
 

"JDH" wrote in message
...
z wrote:
On Apr 23, 2:54 pm, wrote:

I am convinced that immigration, legal and illegal, is the most deadly
threat to the United States. The facts are in and the facts are


cool. so what tribe are you? sioux? cherokee?



There are not indigenous human populations of North America. Even the
"indians" ancestors immigrated here across the land bridge from Siberia.


There is also a US Supreme Court Decision from the 1800s that declares that
anyone born on the continent is a "Native American"


Wayne[_2_] April 27th 09 04:49 PM

Corrupt Elites Plan Dispossession of American Citizens
 

"SaPeIsMa" wrote in message
ernet...

"JDH" wrote in message
...
z wrote:
On Apr 23, 2:54 pm, wrote:

I am convinced that immigration, legal and illegal, is the most deadly
threat to the United States. The facts are in and the facts are

cool. so what tribe are you? sioux? cherokee?



There are not indigenous human populations of North America. Even the
"indians" ancestors immigrated here across the land bridge from Siberia.


There is also a US Supreme Court Decision from the 1800s that declares
that anyone born on the continent is a "Native American"

Now that's good news! I'm going to head over to the San Manuel Casino today
and demand my cut. :)
--Wayne



Howard Brazee April 27th 09 11:31 PM

Corrupt Elites Plan Dispossession of American Citizens
 
On Mon, 27 Apr 2009 06:41:33 -0700, "Long Ranger"
wrote:

There are not indigenous human populations of North America. Even the
"indians" ancestors immigrated here across the land bridge from Siberia.


Plus, we kicked their asses and conquered them, fair and square. Much like
the Mexicans are doing to us now, only with different methodology.


The Mexicans are conquering us more closely to the same way as the
Polish, Irish, and Italians conquered us a century ago. Except then
the hatred against the immigrants was greater, with a strong anti
Roman-Catholic element.

The result will be the same anyhow.

--
"In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found,
than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace
to the legislature, and not to the executive department."

- James Madison

Long Ranger[_2_] April 28th 09 12:11 AM

Corrupt Elites Plan Dispossession of American Citizens
 

"Howard Brazee" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 27 Apr 2009 06:41:33 -0700, "Long Ranger"
wrote:

There are not indigenous human populations of North America. Even the
"indians" ancestors immigrated here across the land bridge from

Siberia.

Plus, we kicked their asses and conquered them, fair and square. Much

like
the Mexicans are doing to us now, only with different methodology.


The Mexicans are conquering us more closely to the same way as the
Polish, Irish, and Italians conquered us a century ago. Except then
the hatred against the immigrants was greater, with a strong anti
Roman-Catholic element.

The result will be the same anyhow.


Not likely. There is a distinct cultural difference, and the numbers are
waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay higher. I'm sure there will be a knee-jerk reaction by
everyone, but you only need to stop in on East L.A. to have the facts thrown
in your face. Lots of people hide their spinelessness behind this sort of
equivocating.



Howard Brazee April 28th 09 01:20 AM

Corrupt Elites Plan Dispossession of American Citizens
 
On Mon, 27 Apr 2009 16:11:43 -0700, "Long Ranger"
wrote:

The result will be the same anyhow.


Not likely. There is a distinct cultural difference, and the numbers are
waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay higher. I'm sure there will be a knee-jerk reaction by
everyone, but you only need to stop in on East L.A. to have the facts thrown
in your face. Lots of people hide their spinelessness behind this sort of
equivocating.


Read about the cities a century ago.

--
"In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found,
than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace
to the legislature, and not to the executive department."

- James Madison

Slim[_2_] April 28th 09 02:00 AM

Corrupt Elites Plan Dispossession of American Citizens
 
On 2009-04-27 09:41:33 -0400, "Long Ranger" said:


"JDH" wrote in message
...
z wrote:
On Apr 23, 2:54 pm, wrote:

I am convinced that immigration, legal and illegal, is the most deadly
threat to the United States. The facts are in and the facts are

cool. so what tribe are you? sioux? cherokee?



There are not indigenous human populations of North America. Even the
"indians" ancestors immigrated here across the land bridge from Siberia.


Plus, we kicked their asses and conquered them, fair and square. Much like
the Mexicans are doing to us now, only with different methodology.


"Fair and Square"?

What comic books have you been reading?

--
"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and
carrying the cross." - Sinclair Lewis


Slim[_2_] April 28th 09 02:01 AM

Corrupt Elites Plan Dispossession of American Citizens
 
On 2009-04-27 11:41:54 -0400, "SaPeIsMa" said:


"JDH" wrote in message
...
z wrote:
On Apr 23, 2:54 pm, wrote:

I am convinced that immigration, legal and illegal, is the most deadly
threat to the United States. The facts are in and the facts are

cool. so what tribe are you? sioux? cherokee?



There are not indigenous human populations of North America. Even the
"indians" ancestors immigrated here across the land bridge from Siberia.


There is also a US Supreme Court Decision from the 1800s that declares
that anyone born on the continent is a "Native American"


That same Supreme Court upheld slavery.

--
"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and
carrying the cross." - Sinclair Lewis


Slim[_2_] April 28th 09 02:03 AM

Corrupt Elites Plan Dispossession of American Citizens
 
On 2009-04-27 19:11:43 -0400, "Long Ranger" said:


"Howard Brazee" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 27 Apr 2009 06:41:33 -0700, "Long Ranger"
wrote:

There are not indigenous human populations of North America. Even the
"indians" ancestors immigrated here across the land bridge from

Siberia.

Plus, we kicked their asses and conquered them, fair and square. Much

like
the Mexicans are doing to us now, only with different methodology.


The Mexicans are conquering us more closely to the same way as the
Polish, Irish, and Italians conquered us a century ago. Except then
the hatred against the immigrants was greater, with a strong anti
Roman-Catholic element.

The result will be the same anyhow.


Not likely. There is a distinct cultural difference, and the numbers are
waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay higher. I'm sure there will be a knee-jerk reaction by
everyone, but you only need to stop in on East L.A. to have the facts thrown
in your face. Lots of people hide their spinelessness behind this sort of
equivocating.


You yahoo types are soooo funny.

Look in the kitchen of any restaurant, look who is cutting your grass,
look who is cleaning your homes and raising your children!

You want all the benefits of cheap Mexican labor, but you dont want the
Mexicans.

Hypocrites!

--
"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and
carrying the cross." - Sinclair Lewis


Long Ranger[_2_] April 28th 09 03:08 AM

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"Slim" wrote in message
news:2009042721004316807-slim@pickinscom...
On 2009-04-27 09:41:33 -0400, "Long Ranger" said:


"JDH" wrote in message
...
z wrote:
On Apr 23, 2:54 pm, wrote:

I am convinced that immigration, legal and illegal, is the most

deadly
threat to the United States. The facts are in and the facts are

cool. so what tribe are you? sioux? cherokee?


There are not indigenous human populations of North America. Even the
"indians" ancestors immigrated here across the land bridge from

Siberia.

Plus, we kicked their asses and conquered them, fair and square. Much

like
the Mexicans are doing to us now, only with different methodology.


"Fair and Square"?

What comic books have you been reading?



What, were we supposed to just go carve some bows and arrows out of the
nearest tree and bring our selves down to their level?



Long Ranger[_2_] April 28th 09 03:10 AM

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"Slim" wrote in message
news:2009042721013975249-slim@pickinscom...
On 2009-04-27 11:41:54 -0400, "SaPeIsMa" said:


"JDH" wrote in message
...
z wrote:
On Apr 23, 2:54 pm, wrote:

I am convinced that immigration, legal and illegal, is the most

deadly
threat to the United States. The facts are in and the facts are

cool. so what tribe are you? sioux? cherokee?


There are not indigenous human populations of North America. Even the
"indians" ancestors immigrated here across the land bridge from

Siberia.

There is also a US Supreme Court Decision from the 1800s that declares
that anyone born on the continent is a "Native American"


That same Supreme Court upheld slavery.


So, it follows then, that we should abandon all the decisions of the Supreme
Court? But wait, that would kill the Democratic Party instantly!



z April 28th 09 03:40 AM

Corrupt Elites Plan Dispossession of American Citizens
 
On Apr 27, 7:11*pm, "Long Ranger" wrote:
"Howard Brazee" wrote in message

...





On Mon, 27 Apr 2009 06:41:33 -0700, "Long Ranger"
wrote:


There are not indigenous human populations of North America. Even the
"indians" ancestors immigrated here across the land bridge from

Siberia.

Plus, we kicked their asses and conquered them, fair and square. Much

like
the Mexicans are doing to us now, only with different methodology.


The Mexicans are conquering us more closely to the same way as the
Polish, Irish, and Italians conquered us a century ago. * Except then
the hatred against the immigrants was greater, with a strong anti
Roman-Catholic element.


The result will be the same anyhow.


Not likely. There is a distinct cultural difference, and the numbers are
waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay higher. I'm sure there will be a knee-jerk reaction by
everyone, but you only need to stop in on East L.A. to have the facts thrown
in your face. Lots of people hide their spinelessness behind this sort of
equivocating.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


oh noes! they'll probably change the name of los angeles to something
mexican!

z April 28th 09 03:47 AM

Corrupt Elites Plan Dispossession of American Citizens
 
On Apr 27, 9:03*pm, Slim wrote:

You want all the benefits of cheap Mexican labor, but you dont want the
Mexicans.


and they kidnap a bunch of africans and bring them over here to be
slaves, and then complain about the low quality of the folks they
enslaved.


z April 28th 09 03:47 AM

Corrupt Elites Plan Dispossession of American Citizens
 
On Apr 27, 11:41*am, "SaPeIsMa" wrote:
"JDH" wrote in message

...

z wrote:
On Apr 23, 2:54 pm, wrote:


I am convinced that immigration, legal and illegal, is the most deadly
threat to the United States. The facts are in and the facts are


cool. so what tribe are you? sioux? cherokee?


There are not indigenous human populations of North America. Even the
"indians" ancestors immigrated here across the land bridge from Siberia..


There is also a US Supreme Court Decision from the 1800s that declares that
anyone born on the continent is a "Native American"


except obama.

Cole Firearms Inc. April 28th 09 04:46 AM

Corrupt Elites Plan Dispossession of American Citizens
 
Slim wrote:

On 2009-04-27 19:11:43 -0400, "Long Ranger" said:


"Howard Brazee" wrote in message
...

On Mon, 27 Apr 2009 06:41:33 -0700, "Long Ranger"
wrote:

There are not indigenous human populations of North America. Even the
"indians" ancestors immigrated here across the land bridge from


Siberia.


Plus, we kicked their asses and conquered them, fair and square. Much


like

the Mexicans are doing to us now, only with different methodology.


The Mexicans are conquering us more closely to the same way as the
Polish, Irish, and Italians conquered us a century ago. Except then
the hatred against the immigrants was greater, with a strong anti
Roman-Catholic element.

The result will be the same anyhow.



Not likely. There is a distinct cultural difference, and the numbers are
waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay higher. I'm sure there will be a knee-jerk
reaction by
everyone, but you only need to stop in on East L.A. to have the facts
thrown
in your face. Lots of people hide their spinelessness behind this sort of
equivocating.



You yahoo types are soooo funny.

Look in the kitchen of any restaurant, look who is cutting your grass,
look who is cleaning your homes and raising your children!

You want all the benefits of cheap Mexican labor, but you dont want the
Mexicans.

Hypocrites!



Although many people think that employing an illegal is better than
having a slave, you don't feed them, clothe them or have to be bothered
by injury, sickness and death.

Although those are all good arguments, I disagree, In the long run it
harms the economy, keeps American citizens out of work, and puts an
increasing strain upon our health care and school systems.







--






“Someone said to me, what doesn't kill me makes me stronger,
and my response was, that just means, I need to put more bullet
holes in you!” -- Rev. Shawn Cole



John Reddy April 28th 09 09:51 AM

Corrupt Elites Plan Dispossession of American Citizens
 
In article t,
"SaPeIsMa" wrote:

There is also a US Supreme Court Decision from the 1800s that declares that
anyone born on the continent is a "Native American"


So that means Mexicans, Canadians, Guatemalans, Salvadorans, etc. are
all Native Americans?

The Daring Dufas April 28th 09 12:18 PM

Corrupt Elites Plan Dispossession of American Citizens
 
z wrote:
On Apr 27, 9:03 pm, Slim wrote:

You want all the benefits of cheap Mexican labor, but you dont want the
Mexicans.


and they kidnap a bunch of africans and bring them over here to be
slaves, and then complain about the low quality of the folks they
enslaved.


Well, they were the ones who got caught. I suppose
those who got away and weren't captured were smarter?

TDD

The Daring Dufas April 28th 09 12:21 PM

Corrupt Elites Plan Dispossession of American Citizens
 
Long Ranger wrote:
"Slim" wrote in message
news:2009042721013975249-slim@pickinscom...
On 2009-04-27 11:41:54 -0400, "SaPeIsMa" said:

"JDH" wrote in message
...
z wrote:
On Apr 23, 2:54 pm, wrote:

I am convinced that immigration, legal and illegal, is the most

deadly
threat to the United States. The facts are in and the facts are
cool. so what tribe are you? sioux? cherokee?

There are not indigenous human populations of North America. Even the
"indians" ancestors immigrated here across the land bridge from

Siberia.
There is also a US Supreme Court Decision from the 1800s that declares
that anyone born on the continent is a "Native American"

That same Supreme Court upheld slavery.


So, it follows then, that we should abandon all the decisions of the Supreme
Court? But wait, that would kill the Democratic Party instantly!


Do you mean The Democrat Party? There is nothing democratic
about The Democrat Party.

TDD

Long Ranger[_2_] April 28th 09 02:31 PM

Corrupt Elites Plan Dispossession of American Citizens
 

"The Daring Dufas" wrote in message
...
Long Ranger wrote:
"Slim" wrote in message
news:2009042721013975249-slim@pickinscom...
On 2009-04-27 11:41:54 -0400, "SaPeIsMa" said:

"JDH" wrote in message
...
z wrote:
On Apr 23, 2:54 pm, wrote:

I am convinced that immigration, legal and illegal, is the most

deadly
threat to the United States. The facts are in and the facts are
cool. so what tribe are you? sioux? cherokee?

There are not indigenous human populations of North America. Even the
"indians" ancestors immigrated here across the land bridge from

Siberia.
There is also a US Supreme Court Decision from the 1800s that declares
that anyone born on the continent is a "Native American"
That same Supreme Court upheld slavery.


So, it follows then, that we should abandon all the decisions of the

Supreme
Court? But wait, that would kill the Democratic Party instantly!


Do you mean The Democrat Party? There is nothing democratic
about The Democrat Party.

TDD


Quite right, thanks.



HeyBub[_2_] April 28th 09 03:10 PM

Corrupt Elites Plan Dispossession of American Citizens
 
The Daring Dufas wrote:
z wrote:
On Apr 27, 9:03 pm, Slim wrote:

You want all the benefits of cheap Mexican labor, but you dont want
the Mexicans.


and they kidnap a bunch of africans and bring them over here to be
slaves, and then complain about the low quality of the folks they
enslaved.


Well, they were the ones who got caught. I suppose
those who got away and weren't captured were smarter?


One interesting question is why Africans weren't raiding the coast of
Portugal and carrying off slaves of their own?

See, there's Africa and there's Africa. One part of Africa built the
pyramids and the Library of Alexandria.

Another part of Africa couldn't even invent the wheel. Or copy it. Or
navigation. Or a written language.

You'd think, that since humans began in the Great Rift Valley, southern
Africans would have a head start with evolution...



Slim[_2_] April 28th 09 05:12 PM

Corrupt Elites Plan Dispossession of American Citizens
 
On 2009-04-27 22:08:34 -0400, "Long Ranger" said:


"Slim" wrote in message
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On 2009-04-27 09:41:33 -0400, "Long Ranger" said:


"JDH" wrote in message
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z wrote:
On Apr 23, 2:54 pm, wrote:

I am convinced that immigration, legal and illegal, is the most

deadly
threat to the United States. The facts are in and the facts are

cool. so what tribe are you? sioux? cherokee?


There are not indigenous human populations of North America. Even the
"indians" ancestors immigrated here across the land bridge from

Siberia.

Plus, we kicked their asses and conquered them, fair and square. Much

like
the Mexicans are doing to us now, only with different methodology.


"Fair and Square"?

What comic books have you been reading?



What, were we supposed to just go carve some bows and arrows out of the
nearest tree and bring our selves down to their level?


We stole the land with a Bible in one hand and a gun in the other.

Not to mention the outright lies and fraud that was perpetrated on the
native Americans.

"FAIR AND SQUARE?" Only in comic books.

http://nativeamericanfirstnationshis...hain_of_abuses

Long

Chain of Abuses
Broken Treaties
© Jeffrey R Gudzune
Mar 31, 2007
Since 1787, over 750 land cessions have been authorized by supposed
mutual compacts. History demostrates there was little that was mutual
about these "treaties."

The long series of land usurpations that would gradually erode Native
American territory began with the slash of a quill pen upon parchment;
a seemingly innocuous sound, but one masking a hidden motive. Though
the United States would employ the resources of its vast military in an
effort to enforce its policy of containing the numerous tribes, each
land cession was made "legal" by a simple piece of paper--a treaty.
This was the weapon employed by a growing nation as it sought the most
expedient means of securing its swelling boarders. The American
government offered recompense, resettlement, and even trade to the
states with which it was dealing in exchange for the lands it intended
to occupy. To many Native Americans, however, selling the land was an
alien concept. The land was elemental; it was as essential to life as
air and could not be owned by anyone. To agree to "give up" all or even
a percentage of the land seemed as absurd as selling the air. It was,
however, through the treaty that the plight of the Native American
began.
In theory, a treaty is a mutual compact between two nations. In
practice, there was nothing mutual about the treaties authorizing land
cessions--and all too often the recompensatory provisions of such
treaties were mitigated before the ink could dry. The treaty system
dates to the colonial period. Native American nations signed compacts
with the English, French, and Dutch settlers and eventually with the
permanent colonies in the years before the American Revolution. After
the French and Indian War, the English government sought to control
colonial expansion into territories west of the Appalachian watershed.
The Royal Proclamation of 1763 was meant to define the boarders of
colonial America, but it only alienated the colonists. When the
colonies declared independence, they adopted a departmental system to
deal with their Indian neighbors--three superintendencies that answered
to Congress.
To the United States, Native American nations were only de facto
states. In the implementation of its diplomatic policy toward the
Native American population, the United States assumed the role of an
empire over a protectorate. This opened the door for segregation and
near decimation of the Native American population. With its first
treaty with an Indian state in 1778 (with the Lenni Lenape, or Delaware
Indians) through the Treaty of Echota of 1835 (with the Cherokee in
Georgia) the only policy has been removal. This is not to say that the
treaties were one sided. In fact, the American government did provide
recompensatory provisions in exchange for title to Indian lands. Often
a relocation allowance and future payments were given, as in the case
of the controversial Treaty of Echota. However, subsequent acts of
Congress and shifting political winds demuted many such provisions. Why
then were these treaties signed?
Examining the major land cessions from 1784 to 1894, it is clear that
nearly all of these treaties were forced on Native American nations.
Most were negotiated after wars; as in the case of the Treaty of
Greenville (1795), the Treaty of Fort Jackson (1814), and the Treaty of
Fort Armstrong (1832). These wars were started by white settlers
encroaching on Indian lands. Other treaties were brought about by the
demands of the individual states, as with the Treaty of Echota. This
treaty removed the Cherokee from thier territory and resettled them in
a designated Indian Territoy in Oklahoma. They were forced out in a
march that killed over 4000 Cherokee. Following the Civil War, those
nations that had allied with the Confederacy (such as the Cherokee and
Creek) were forced to give up more territory.
By 1890, nearly every Native American nation was reduced to a
reservation. Those that were not relegated to this state were all but
extinct. The consolodation of land was complete. Reservation life did
have its degree of success. Many prospered. It was a hard road, but
they managed to endure. Many more nations suffered for want of funds,
suitable agricultural opportunities, and good leadership. Constant
legal battles to retain what little lands that remained occupied the
Cherokee, Comanche, and Creek nations. The forces of change were
gathering strength, however. The last gasp of those seeking to destroy
the Indian way of life was the Dawes General Allotment Act of
1887--which proposed to break up reservations into 160 acre plots. The
motivation behind this legislation was the end of the concept of Native
American states as nations and thier assimilation into American
culture. Those tribes that accepted this provision faced thier own
legal issues when the Curtis Act of 1898 attemtped to dissolve thier
governments. Native sovereignty would have dissapeared were it not for
the efforts of John Collier, who, as Commissioner of Indian Affiars,
brought pressure on Congress to pass legislation that enumerated the
rights of Native Americans. The result was the Indian Reorganization
Act of 1934, the provisions of which restored native lands, provided
better medical services to reservations, and encouraged the development
of business opportunities. This sins of the past were not wiped clean,
but finally the Native American nation was secured under the laws of
the United States. With a renewed status, many nations went about the
task of rebuilding a proud heritage that is so much a part of this
nation...this nation of many nations.

Read mo
http://nativeamericanfirstnationshis...xzz0DzNXKq6q&B

--


"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and
carrying the cross." - Sinclair Lewis

Long Ranger[_2_] April 28th 09 09:13 PM

Corrupt Elites Plan Dispossession of American Citizens
 
(SNIP)
There are not indigenous human populations of North America. Even the
"indians" ancestors immigrated here across the land bridge from

Siberia.

Plus, we kicked their asses and conquered them, fair and square. Much

like
the Mexicans are doing to us now, only with different methodology.

"Fair and Square"?

What comic books have you been reading?



What, were we supposed to just go carve some bows and arrows out of the
nearest tree and bring our selves down to their level?


We stole the land with a Bible in one hand and a gun in the other.

Not to mention the outright lies and fraud that was perpetrated on the
native Americans.

"FAIR AND SQUARE?" Only in comic books.


http://nativeamericanfirstnationshis...hain_of_abuses

Long

Chain of Abuses
Broken Treaties
© Jeffrey R Gudzune



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Mar 31, 2007
Since 1787, over 750 land cessions have been authorized by supposed
mutual compacts. History demostrates there was little that was mutual
about these "treaties."

The long series of land usurpations that would gradually erode Native
American territory began with the slash of a quill pen upon parchment;
a seemingly innocuous sound, but one masking a hidden motive. Though
the United States would employ the resources of its vast military in an
effort to enforce its policy of containing the numerous tribes, each
land cession was made "legal" by a simple piece of paper--a treaty.
This was the weapon employed by a growing nation as it sought the most
expedient means of securing its swelling boarders. The American
government offered recompense, resettlement, and even trade to the
states with which it was dealing in exchange for the lands it intended
to occupy. To many Native Americans, however, selling the land was an
alien concept. The land was elemental; it was as essential to life as
air and could not be owned by anyone. To agree to "give up" all or even
a percentage of the land seemed as absurd as selling the air. It was,
however, through the treaty that the plight of the Native American
began.
In theory, a treaty is a mutual compact between two nations. In
practice, there was nothing mutual about the treaties authorizing land
cessions--and all too often the recompensatory provisions of such
treaties were mitigated before the ink could dry. The treaty system
dates to the colonial period. Native American nations signed compacts
with the English, French, and Dutch settlers and eventually with the
permanent colonies in the years before the American Revolution. After
the French and Indian War, the English government sought to control
colonial expansion into territories west of the Appalachian watershed.
The Royal Proclamation of 1763 was meant to define the boarders of
colonial America, but it only alienated the colonists. When the
colonies declared independence, they adopted a departmental system to
deal with their Indian neighbors--three superintendencies that answered
to Congress.
To the United States, Native American nations were only de facto
states. In the implementation of its diplomatic policy toward the
Native American population, the United States assumed the role of an
empire over a protectorate. This opened the door for segregation and
near decimation of the Native American population. With its first
treaty with an Indian state in 1778 (with the Lenni Lenape, or Delaware
Indians) through the Treaty of Echota of 1835 (with the Cherokee in
Georgia) the only policy has been removal. This is not to say that the
treaties were one sided. In fact, the American government did provide
recompensatory provisions in exchange for title to Indian lands. Often
a relocation allowance and future payments were given, as in the case
of the controversial Treaty of Echota. However, subsequent acts of
Congress and shifting political winds demuted many such provisions. Why
then were these treaties signed?
Examining the major land cessions from 1784 to 1894, it is clear that
nearly all of these treaties were forced on Native American nations.
Most were negotiated after wars; as in the case of the Treaty of
Greenville (1795), the Treaty of Fort Jackson (1814), and the Treaty of
Fort Armstrong (1832). These wars were started by white settlers
encroaching on Indian lands. Other treaties were brought about by the
demands of the individual states, as with the Treaty of Echota. This
treaty removed the Cherokee from thier territory and resettled them in
a designated Indian Territoy in Oklahoma. They were forced out in a
march that killed over 4000 Cherokee. Following the Civil War, those
nations that had allied with the Confederacy (such as the Cherokee and
Creek) were forced to give up more territory.
By 1890, nearly every Native American nation was reduced to a
reservation. Those that were not relegated to this state were all but
extinct. The consolodation of land was complete. Reservation life did
have its degree of success. Many prospered. It was a hard road, but
they managed to endure. Many more nations suffered for want of funds,
suitable agricultural opportunities, and good leadership. Constant
legal battles to retain what little lands that remained occupied the
Cherokee, Comanche, and Creek nations. The forces of change were
gathering strength, however. The last gasp of those seeking to destroy
the Indian way of life was the Dawes General Allotment Act of
1887--which proposed to break up reservations into 160 acre plots. The
motivation behind this legislation was the end of the concept of Native
American states as nations and thier assimilation into American
culture. Those tribes that accepted this provision faced thier own
legal issues when the Curtis Act of 1898 attemtped to dissolve thier
governments. Native sovereignty would have dissapeared were it not for
the efforts of John Collier, who, as Commissioner of Indian Affiars,
brought pressure on Congress to pass legislation that enumerated the
rights of Native Americans. The result was the Indian Reorganization
Act of 1934, the provisions of which restored native lands, provided
better medical services to reservations, and encouraged the development
of business opportunities. This sins of the past were not wiped clean,
but finally the Native American nation was secured under the laws of
the United States. With a renewed status, many nations went about the
task of rebuilding a proud heritage that is so much a part of this
nation...this nation of many nations.

Read mo

http://nativeamericanfirstnationshis...xzz0DzNXKq6q&B


Only a country rube is unfamiliar with this story. Basically, what it says
is that we didn't have the courage of our own convictions and we had to do
what we did in a back-handed way. Plus, we quit before we were done and
ended up setting the stage for sovereign nations within our nation, and for
some reason I can't fathom, an indian gambling concession that stretches
nearly coast to coast.



The Daring Dufas April 29th 09 12:49 PM

Corrupt Elites Plan Dispossession of American Citizens
 
HeyBub wrote:
The Daring Dufas wrote:
z wrote:
On Apr 27, 9:03 pm, Slim wrote:

You want all the benefits of cheap Mexican labor, but you dont want
the Mexicans.

and they kidnap a bunch of africans and bring them over here to be
slaves, and then complain about the low quality of the folks they
enslaved.

Well, they were the ones who got caught. I suppose
those who got away and weren't captured were smarter?


One interesting question is why Africans weren't raiding the coast of
Portugal and carrying off slaves of their own?

See, there's Africa and there's Africa. One part of Africa built the
pyramids and the Library of Alexandria.

Another part of Africa couldn't even invent the wheel. Or copy it. Or
navigation. Or a written language.

You'd think, that since humans began in the Great Rift Valley, southern
Africans would have a head start with evolution...


You are aware that Adam and Eve were Negro?
Who else would partake of a prohibited item
and get kicked out of free government housing.

TDD

Don White April 29th 09 01:14 PM

Corrupt Elites Plan Dispossession of American Citizens
 

"The Daring Dufas" wrote in message
...
HeyBub wrote:
The Daring Dufas wrote:
z wrote:
On Apr 27, 9:03 pm, Slim wrote:

You want all the benefits of cheap Mexican labor, but you dont want
the Mexicans.

and they kidnap a bunch of africans and bring them over here to be
slaves, and then complain about the low quality of the folks they
enslaved.

Well, they were the ones who got caught. I suppose
those who got away and weren't captured were smarter?


One interesting question is why Africans weren't raiding the coast of
Portugal and carrying off slaves of their own?

See, there's Africa and there's Africa. One part of Africa built the
pyramids and the Library of Alexandria.

Another part of Africa couldn't even invent the wheel. Or copy it. Or
navigation. Or a written language.

You'd think, that since humans began in the Great Rift Valley, southern
Africans would have a head start with evolution...

You are aware that Adam and Eve were Negro?
Who else would partake of a prohibited item
and get kicked out of free government housing.

TDD


That you..JohnnyH?




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