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Alligator Gar
Did anyone else see the History Channel spot on these fish? I had never heard of them before. Creepy looking and big. Although not normally aggressive against humans, apparently there have been some documented cases of attacks. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alligator_gar Eisboch |
Alligator Gar
On Apr 23, 11:17*am, "Eisboch" wrote:
Did anyone else see the History Channel spot on these fish? I had never heard of them before. * Creepy looking and big. Although not normally aggressive against humans, apparently there have been some documented cases of attacks. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alligator_gar Eisboch I was bass fishing in a local florida swamp and caught a decent size one by accident. I got that thing to my canoe, and really, really wanted my lure back. I'm sitting there looking at this thing that's all teeth and wondering what to do! |
Alligator Gar
On Apr 23, 10:42*am, wrote:
On Apr 23, 11:17*am, "Eisboch" wrote: Did anyone else see the History Channel spot on these fish? I had never heard of them before. * Creepy looking and big. Although not normally aggressive against humans, apparently there have been some documented cases of attacks. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alligator_gar Eisboch I was bass fishing in a local florida swamp and caught a decent size one by accident. I got that thing to my canoe, and really, really wanted my lure back. I'm sitting there looking at this thing that's all teeth and wondering what to do! Yes, i watched it too. Very fascinating. At the end though, the marine people said the Gar gets a bad rap and was considered more harmless than agressive. and said the attacks were more to be blamed on alligators. but when the guy caught a three footer it wasn't very happy and bloodied his arm fairly well. I was feeeshing with a friend of min in a small Lake in Central Illinois, and he caught one. narley looking dude and maybe a food long. He wanted his lure back too so he put on some leather gloves and cut it's head off and dug the lure out. I didn't know they got so big though. 7-10 asnd ev3en reported to be up to 14-15 feet in length! they said it will hold onto a fish then determine if it can swallow it whole. The bad part is, I wonder how long it would take to hold onto an arm or leg untill it figured it was to big to gulp down. I don't wanna mess with one that size. Butt ugly but beautiful in a wierd way. |
Alligator Gar
On Apr 23, 12:10*pm, Tim wrote:
On Apr 23, 10:42*am, wrote: On Apr 23, 11:17*am, "Eisboch" wrote: Did anyone else see the History Channel spot on these fish? I had never heard of them before. * Creepy looking and big. Although not normally aggressive against humans, apparently there have been some documented cases of attacks. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alligator_gar Eisboch I was bass fishing in a local florida swamp and caught a decent size one by accident. I got that thing to my canoe, and really, really wanted my lure back. I'm sitting there looking at this thing that's all teeth and wondering what to do! Yes, i watched it too. Very fascinating. At the end though, the marine people said the Gar gets a bad rap and was considered more harmless than agressive. and said the attacks were more to be blamed on alligators. but when the guy caught a three footer it wasn't very happy and bloodied his arm fairly well. I was feeeshing with a friend of min in a small Lake in Central Illinois, and he caught one. narley looking dude and maybe a food long. He wanted his lure back too so he put on some leather gloves and cut it's head off and dug the lure out. I didn't know they got so big though. 7-10 asnd ev3en reported to be up to 14-15 feet in length! they said it will hold onto a fish then determine if it can swallow it whole. The bad part is, I wonder how long it would take to hold onto an arm or leg untill it figured it was to big to gulp down. I don't wanna mess with one that size. Butt ugly but beautiful in a wierd way. The really big ones in Florida hardly will hit a lure at all. Think they like live bait!!! I know of a spot, you go into the swamp on the Hillsboro River, and get to a decent sized lake, nothing but swamp all around it. When you are canoeing through it, the gar will be right at the surface, BIG gar. It's a little nerve racking in a canoe, by yourself, in the middle of a swamp with these all-teeth things surfacing around you! |
Alligator Gar
On Apr 23, 11:56*am, wrote:
On Apr 23, 12:10*pm, Tim wrote: On Apr 23, 10:42*am, wrote: On Apr 23, 11:17*am, "Eisboch" wrote: Did anyone else see the History Channel spot on these fish? I had never heard of them before. * Creepy looking and big. Although not normally aggressive against humans, apparently there have been some documented cases of attacks. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alligator_gar Eisboch I was bass fishing in a local florida swamp and caught a decent size one by accident. I got that thing to my canoe, and really, really wanted my lure back. I'm sitting there looking at this thing that's all teeth and wondering what to do! Yes, i watched it too. Very fascinating. At the end though, the marine people said the Gar gets a bad rap and was considered more harmless than agressive. and said the attacks were more to be blamed on alligators. but when the guy caught a three footer it wasn't very happy and bloodied his arm fairly well. I was feeeshing with a friend of min in a small Lake in Central Illinois, and he caught one. narley looking dude and maybe a food long. He wanted his lure back too so he put on some leather gloves and cut it's head off and dug the lure out. I didn't know they got so big though. 7-10 asnd ev3en reported to be up to 14-15 feet in length! they said it will hold onto a fish then determine if it can swallow it whole. The bad part is, I wonder how long it would take to hold onto an arm or leg untill it figured it was to big to gulp down. I don't wanna mess with one that size. Butt ugly but beautiful in a wierd way. The really big ones in Florida hardly will hit a lure at all. Think they like live bait!!! I know of a spot, you go into the swamp on the Hillsboro River, and get to a decent sized lake, nothing but swamp all around it. When you are canoeing through it, the gar will be right at the surface, BIG gar. It's a little nerve racking in a canoe, by yourself, in the middle of a swamp with these all-teeth things surfacing around you!- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I can understand that. In fact, the guy in the opening of the program showd he had a 7 ft.r mounted on the wall and said he was trolling in a 14 ft. jon boat, when one was swimming right next to him and it was the full length of the boat. He then gave the impression that it was time to get the heck out of there.... I can't blame him. |
Alligator Gar
On Apr 23, 12:56 pm, wrote:
On Apr 23, 12:10 pm, Tim wrote: On Apr 23, 10:42 am, wrote: On Apr 23, 11:17 am, "Eisboch" wrote: Did anyone else see the History Channel spot on these fish? I had never heard of them before. Creepy looking and big. Although not normally aggressive against humans, apparently there have been some documented cases of attacks. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alligator_gar Eisboch I was bass fishing in a local florida swamp and caught a decent size one by accident. I got that thing to my canoe, and really, really wanted my lure back. I'm sitting there looking at this thing that's all teeth and wondering what to do! Yes, i watched it too. Very fascinating. At the end though, the marine people said the Gar gets a bad rap and was considered more harmless than agressive. and said the attacks were more to be blamed on alligators. but when the guy caught a three footer it wasn't very happy and bloodied his arm fairly well. I was feeeshing with a friend of min in a small Lake in Central Illinois, and he caught one. narley looking dude and maybe a food long. He wanted his lure back too so he put on some leather gloves and cut it's head off and dug the lure out. I didn't know they got so big though. 7-10 asnd ev3en reported to be up to 14-15 feet in length! they said it will hold onto a fish then determine if it can swallow it whole. The bad part is, I wonder how long it would take to hold onto an arm or leg untill it figured it was to big to gulp down. I don't wanna mess with one that size. Butt ugly but beautiful in a wierd way. The really big ones in Florida hardly will hit a lure at all. Think they like live bait!!! I know of a spot, you go into the swamp on the Hillsboro River, and get to a decent sized lake, nothing but swamp all around it. When you are canoeing through it, the gar will be right at the surface, BIG gar. It's a little nerve racking in a canoe, by yourself, in the middle of a swamp with these all-teeth things surfacing around you! Here in N. FL, you can go to Wakulla Springs and look out from the swim tower toward the springs and see alligator gar hanging nearly motionless over the clear spring and they range from 3-6'. When I was a kid, my parents would give all 9 of us kids a mask and drag us behind the canoe down the Wakulla river. There were gar all over the place and at first they scared us but they never bothered us. |
Alligator Gar
"Eisboch" wrote in message ... Did anyone else see the History Channel spot on these fish? I had never heard of them before. Creepy looking and big. Although not normally aggressive against humans, apparently there have been some documented cases of attacks. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alligator_gar Eisboch These fish were familiar to me when I lived in Texas and Louisiana. Bigger around than a bowling ball, and six feet long. The biggest ones I saw were in Galveston bay around Seabrook, in brackish water. They did get big in the Louisiana marshes, too. Fishing for them was with snares, or frayed nylon lines that got tangled in their teeth. Bowfishing was fun, too. Very good to eat as a roast, or scraping the meat and making a local delicacy called "gar fish balls" meaning balls made of shredded meat, and not the testicles. Some pretty big damn awesome powerful fish that look like they came from the age of the dinosaurs. Steve |
Alligator Gar
On Thu, 23 Apr 2009 11:30:57 -0700, Frogwatch wrote:
Here in N. FL, you can go to Wakulla Springs and look out from the swim tower toward the springs and see alligator gar hanging nearly motionless over the clear spring and they range from 3-6'. When I was a kid, my parents would give all 9 of us kids a mask and drag us behind the canoe down the Wakulla river. Trolling for gar, were they? ;-) Personally, I've never seen them in the 6' range. I have seen them 2-3' and they seemed rather sluggish to me. Of course, I was on land and safe. |
Alligator Gar
On Thu, 23 Apr 2009 20:55:29 -0600, SteveB wrote:
Some pretty big damn awesome powerful fish that look like they came from the age of the dinosaurs. Are they powerful? The few I've seen seemed rather sluggish and slow. |
Alligator Gar
"thunder" wrote in message t... On Thu, 23 Apr 2009 20:55:29 -0600, SteveB wrote: Some pretty big damn awesome powerful fish that look like they came from the age of the dinosaurs. Are they powerful? The few I've seen seemed rather sluggish and slow. To the contrary, they are capable of being very fast and efficient hunters. Here's a pic I found of one a guy caught in 1991. http://www.texasfishingguides.org/ki...atula_42_x.jpg Eisboch |
Alligator Gar
On Apr 24, 7:47*am, thunder wrote:
On Thu, 23 Apr 2009 20:55:29 -0600, SteveB wrote: *Some pretty big damn awesome powerful fish that look like they came from the age of the dinosaurs. Are they powerful? *The few I've seen seemed rather sluggish and slow. Oh, no. They kind of act like 'gators, they can be fast and powerful as all hell! Just hook one sometime! |
Alligator Gar
On Apr 23, 10:55*pm, "SteveB" wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message ... Did anyone else see the History Channel spot on these fish? I had never heard of them before. * Creepy looking and big. Although not normally aggressive against humans, apparently there have been some documented cases of attacks. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alligator_gar Eisboch These fish were familiar to me when I lived in Texas and Louisiana. *Bigger around than a bowling ball, and six feet long. *The biggest ones I saw were in Galveston bay around Seabrook, in brackish water. *They did get big in the Louisiana marshes, too. *Fishing for them was with snares, or frayed nylon lines that got tangled in their teeth. *Bowfishing was fun, too. *Very good to eat as a roast, or scraping the meat and making a local delicacy called "gar fish balls" meaning balls made of shredded meat, and not the testicles. *Some pretty big damn awesome powerful fish that look like they came from the age of the dinosaurs. Steve Interesting, I never knew (or thought about it) that they would live in brackish water. |
Alligator Gar
On Fri, 24 Apr 2009 07:57:44 -0400, Eisboch wrote:
http://www.texasfishingguides.org/kirkland/images/ atractosteus_spatula_42_x.jpg They sure do have some size to them. That's a nice fish. I was reading somewhere that their eggs are toxic. |
Alligator Gar
"thunder" wrote in message t... On Thu, 23 Apr 2009 20:55:29 -0600, SteveB wrote: Some pretty big damn awesome powerful fish that look like they came from the age of the dinosaurs. Are they powerful? The few I've seen seemed rather sluggish and slow. As with an alligator, they clamp and roll. YES, YES, they are powerful. They hunt by stealth, slowly. |
Alligator Gar
"Eisboch" wrote in message ... "thunder" wrote in message t... On Thu, 23 Apr 2009 20:55:29 -0600, SteveB wrote: Some pretty big damn awesome powerful fish that look like they came from the age of the dinosaurs. Are they powerful? The few I've seen seemed rather sluggish and slow. To the contrary, they are capable of being very fast and efficient hunters. Here's a pic I found of one a guy caught in 1991. http://www.texasfishingguides.org/ki...atula_42_x.jpg Eisboch Was over at the San Francisco Academy of Science. Used to be the Steinhart Aquarium. Lots of gars in the tank, and they looked like they could swim very fast from just watching them glide along nomally. |
Alligator Gar
On Fri, 24 Apr 2009 07:57:44 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote: To the contrary, they are capable of being very fast and efficient hunters. That is a real no brainer. What else would a zillion needle sharp teeth be for? Eating weeds? And any fish shaped like that is built for speed. Barracuda for example. Casady |
Alligator Gar
Eisboch wrote:
Did anyone else see the History Channel spot on these fish? We used to catch them on our YoYos on Caddo Lake. Blechy, mean fish that got to be thrown back as there isn't a thing edible on em. sam |
Alligator Gar
On Apr 24, 7:53*am, thunder wrote:
On Fri, 24 Apr 2009 07:57:44 -0400, Eisboch wrote: http://www.texasfishingguides.org/kirkland/images/ atractosteus_spatula_42_x.jpg They sure do have some size to them. *That's a nice fish. *I was reading somewhere that their eggs are toxic. * The whole blasted thing looks toxic to me... |
Alligator Gar
On May 28, 3:22*pm, wrote:
Eisboch wrote: Did anyone else see the History Channel spot on these fish? We used to catch them on our YoYos on Caddo Lake. Blechy, mean fish that got to be thrown back as there isn't a thing edible on em. sam Actually they are edible. But look at this recipe: http://www.greatcajuncooking.com/recipes/recipe.php?65 5 pounds deboned Garfish 2 medium onions 2 cloves garlic I rib celery 5 sprigs parsley 1/2 teaspoon red pepper 1 teaspoon black pepper 1 tablespoon salt 1 cup fine bread crumbs Sauce: 2 cups flour 1¼ cups vegetable oil I large bell pepper 1 can tomato sauce 1 large onion, chopped 8 to 10 cups boiling water ¼ teaspoon red pepper 1 cup chopped green onion tops 1 cup chopped green pepper 2 cloves garlic, chopped Salt and pepper to taste Procedu Grind together the fish, onions, bell pepper, garlic, celery, and parsley. Add red pepper, black pepper, salt and bread crumbs. Shape into balls the size desired. Fry in deep hot vegetable oil until brown. Here's another: http://www.realcajunrecipes.com/reci...eaning/705.rcr |
Alligator Gar
Tim wrote:
On May 28, 3:22 pm, wrote: Eisboch wrote: Did anyone else see the History Channel spot on these fish? We used to catch them on our YoYos on Caddo Lake. Blechy, mean fish that got to be thrown back as there isn't a thing edible on em. sam Actually they are edible. But look at this recipe: http://www.greatcajuncooking.com/recipes/recipe.php?65 5 pounds deboned Garfish 2 medium onions 2 cloves garlic I rib celery 5 sprigs parsley 1/2 teaspoon red pepper 1 teaspoon black pepper 1 tablespoon salt 1 cup fine bread crumbs Sauce: 2 cups flour 1¼ cups vegetable oil I large bell pepper 1 can tomato sauce 1 large onion, chopped 8 to 10 cups boiling water ¼ teaspoon red pepper 1 cup chopped green onion tops 1 cup chopped green pepper 2 cloves garlic, chopped Salt and pepper to taste Procedu Grind together the fish, onions, bell pepper, garlic, celery, and parsley. Add red pepper, black pepper, salt and bread crumbs. Shape into balls the size desired. Fry in deep hot vegetable oil until brown. Here's another: http://www.realcajunrecipes.com/reci...eaning/705.rcr Sorta like eating prairie dog; when you have nothing else to eat, eat what's huntable-fishable-growable. As in: Prairie Dog Stew Ingredients: 1 prairie dog, quartered 1 cup diced onion 2 large tomatoes (from your garden) or 1 can of tomatoes Assorted fresh ,or canned veggies Preparation: Sprinkle seasoned salt, pepper, and cayenne pepper (optional) liberally on the meat. Pour some cooking oil into a large pot (dutch oven). Sauté the meat with the onions until well browned. Drain the excess oil, add about 2 cups water, and bring to a boil. Cut up the tomatoes and add. If you use canned tomatoes add them now. Turn down the heat, and let slow cook for at least an hour. Important: older prairie dogs may require cooking longer than an hour. Check periodically for tenderness. If you don't you will have a hard time chewing the meat. After the meat is tender, add the veggies, carrots, potatoes, banana pepper, what ever you like. Cook until the veggies are done. An option you can use is, cook up your favorite pasta and serve over the pasta. (eliminate the potatoes). That's it, nice and simple From: http://www.lovelandnet.com/toms-plac...df/recipes.htm |
Alligator Gar
On May 28, 9:50*pm, HK wrote:
Sorta like eating prairie dog; when you have nothing else to eat, eat what's huntable-fishable-growable. Unless your Cajun, then everything is edible , and in season. |
Alligator Gar
On Thu, 28 May 2009 19:40:45 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote: On May 28, 3:22*pm, wrote: Eisboch wrote: Did anyone else see the History Channel spot on these fish? We used to catch them on our YoYos on Caddo Lake. Blechy, mean fish that got to be thrown back as there isn't a thing edible on em. sam Actually they are edible. But look at this recipe: http://www.greatcajuncooking.com/recipes/recipe.php?65 5 pounds deboned Garfish 2 medium onions 2 cloves garlic I rib celery It's that 'deboned' part that's worrisome. That could turn into a likelong occupation from what I've heard about them. -- John H |
Alligator Gar
On Fri, 29 May 2009 06:43:29 -0400, John H
wrote: It's that 'deboned' part that's worrisome. That could turn into a likelong occupation from what I've heard about them. They are shaped like a Northern Pike, and those are famous for bones. Casady |
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