Worth going or not
 

OK, now I find from my wife that we will only have 2 nights in the
Keys, I might be able to stretch it into 3. Maybe a couple days in
Lauderdale, maybe 3. Is it worth trailering the Tolman 20 nearly 600
miles one way? Man, I gotta have something to do down there otherwise
Lauderdale bores me silly. My wife knows I'll refuse to go if we dont
do anything interesting so she is sorta using the days in the Keys as
bait so I'll go see the in-laws.
For those kind enough to be concerned, it turns out my 12 yr old
daughter was diagnosed with diabetes officially today. Very, very
weird with no external symptoms, just high blood sugar. Now we have o
do the whole finger prick 3x a day and insulin injections once a day
routine. Better than some I know but dang, so sudden and out of the
blue.

Worth going or not
 

On Mar 18, 11:52 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
wrote in message

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OK, now I find from my wife that we will only have 2 nights in the
Keys, I might be able to stretch it into 3. Maybe a couple days in
Lauderdale, maybe 3. Is it worth trailering the Tolman 20 nearly 600
miles one way? Man, I gotta have something to do down there otherwise
Lauderdale bores me silly. My wife knows I'll refuse to go if we dont
do anything interesting so she is sorta using the days in the Keys as
bait so I'll go see the in-laws.
For those kind enough to be concerned, it turns out my 12 yr old
daughter was diagnosed with diabetes officially today. Very, very
weird with no external symptoms, just high blood sugar. Now we have o
do the whole finger prick 3x a day and insulin injections once a day
routine. Better than some I know but dang, so sudden and out of the
blue.

Not really worth towing for a couple days. The extra fuel and time. Take
the money saved and hire a boat. Go on one of the snorkel or dive boats. In
Ft. Lauderdale go to Doc Holiday Marina and take the airboat tour. Fun.

Bill:

yer prob right about renting. I passionately hate airboats, too many
of em round here.

Worth going or not
 

wrote in message
...
OK, now I find from my wife that we will only have 2 nights in the
Keys, I might be able to stretch it into 3. Maybe a couple days in
Lauderdale, maybe 3. Is it worth trailering the Tolman 20 nearly 600
miles one way? Man, I gotta have something to do down there otherwise
Lauderdale bores me silly. My wife knows I'll refuse to go if we dont
do anything interesting so she is sorta using the days in the Keys as
bait so I'll go see the in-laws.
For those kind enough to be concerned, it turns out my 12 yr old
daughter was diagnosed with diabetes officially today. Very, very
weird with no external symptoms, just high blood sugar. Now we have o
do the whole finger prick 3x a day and insulin injections once a day
routine. Better than some I know but dang, so sudden and out of the
blue.

Not really worth towing for a couple days. The extra fuel and time. Take
the money saved and hire a boat. Go on one of the snorkel or dive boats. In
Ft. Lauderdale go to Doc Holiday Marina and take the airboat tour. Fun.

Worth going or not
 

wrote in message
...
OK, now I find from my wife that we will only have 2 nights in the
Keys, I might be able to stretch it into 3. Maybe a couple days in
Lauderdale, maybe 3. Is it worth trailering the Tolman 20 nearly 600
miles one way? Man, I gotta have something to do down there otherwise
Lauderdale bores me silly. My wife knows I'll refuse to go if we dont
do anything interesting so she is sorta using the days in the Keys as
bait so I'll go see the in-laws.
For those kind enough to be concerned, it turns out my 12 yr old
daughter was diagnosed with diabetes officially today. Very, very
weird with no external symptoms, just high blood sugar. Now we have o
do the whole finger prick 3x a day and insulin injections once a day
routine. Better than some I know but dang, so sudden and out of the
blue.

Sad to hear of your daughter's illness. A good friend lost his commercial
pilot's ticket and his livelyhood to that disease back in the 80's. Things
have come a long way since then in the treatment of the diabetes, and just
recently was approved for his 3rd class medical. Although he still cannot
fly for hire, he can at least fly again, as that was his passion.

Good luck with her treatment!

--Mike

Worth going or not
 

On Wed, 18 Mar 2009 19:52:14 -0800, "Calif Bill"
wrote:

Not really worth towing for a couple days. The extra fuel and time. Take
the money saved and hire a boat. Go on one of the snorkel or dive boats. In
Ft. Lauderdale go to Doc Holiday Marina and take the airboat tour. Fun.

Yes or take one of the dive boats out of Key Largo/John Pennekamp
Park. They are reasonably priced and you'll get to do some cool reef
snorkeling.

Worth going or not
 

On Wed, 18 Mar 2009 19:46:42 -0700, echoclaw wrote:

OK, now I find from my wife that we will only have 2 nights in the Keys,
I might be able to stretch it into 3. Maybe a couple days in
Lauderdale, maybe 3. Is it worth trailering the Tolman 20 nearly 600
miles one way? Man, I gotta have something to do down there otherwise
Lauderdale bores me silly.

Did you mention that you weren't much into fishing? I ask because the
Keys have great fishing and much of it can be accessed without a boat.

Worth going or not
 

On Mar 18, 10:46*pm, wrote:
OK, now I find from my wife that we will only have 2 nights in the
Keys, I might be able to stretch it into 3. *Maybe a couple days in
Lauderdale, maybe 3. *Is it worth trailering the Tolman 20 nearly 600
miles one way? *Man, I gotta have something to do down there otherwise
Lauderdale bores me silly. *My wife knows I'll refuse to go if we dont
do anything interesting so she is sorta using the days in the Keys as
bait so I'll go see the in-laws.
For those kind enough to be concerned, it turns out my 12 yr old
daughter was diagnosed with diabetes officially today. *Very, very
weird with no external symptoms, just high blood sugar. *Now we have o
do the whole finger prick 3x a day and insulin injections once a day
routine. *Better than some I know but dang, so sudden and out of the
blue.

I'm very sorry to hear about your daughter. They've come a long way
with diabetes testing and medicines. Hopefully the injections won't
last long.
On another front, people tend to get it in their heads that the trip
from Lauderdale to the Keys is a cake walk. It isn't, it's a HAUL! I
wouldn't do it for just a couple of days. Instead consider going just
to Key Largo, it's beautiful there. There's the John Pennakamp coral
reef for diving and snorkeling, and on the west side, some very nice
calm blue clear water to explore. A hundred miles or less from
Lauderdale as opposed to almost 200 for Key west, and a LOT of that is
slow going.

Worth going or not
 

wrote in message
...
OK, now I find from my wife that we will only have 2 nights in the
Keys, I might be able to stretch it into 3. Maybe a couple days in
Lauderdale, maybe 3. Is it worth trailering the Tolman 20 nearly 600
miles one way? Man, I gotta have something to do down there otherwise
Lauderdale bores me silly. My wife knows I'll refuse to go if we dont
do anything interesting so she is sorta using the days in the Keys as
bait so I'll go see the in-laws.
For those kind enough to be concerned, it turns out my 12 yr old
daughter was diagnosed with diabetes officially today. Very, very
weird with no external symptoms, just high blood sugar. Now we have o
do the whole finger prick 3x a day and insulin injections once a day
routine. Better than some I know but dang, so sudden and out of the
blue.


I towed my Sandpiper 565 over 2500 miles round trip to a weekend rendezvous
in August 2007.
It was a bit tiresome, but worth it.

Worth going or not
 

On Mar 19, 8:50*am, "Don White" wrote:
wrote in message

...

OK, now I find from my wife that we will only have 2 nights in the
Keys, I might be able to stretch it into 3. *Maybe a couple days in
Lauderdale, maybe 3. *Is it worth trailering the Tolman 20 nearly 600
miles one way? *Man, I gotta have something to do down there otherwise
Lauderdale bores me silly. *My wife knows I'll refuse to go if we dont
do anything interesting so she is sorta using the days in the Keys as
bait so I'll go see the in-laws.
For those kind enough to be concerned, it turns out my 12 yr old
daughter was diagnosed with diabetes officially today. *Very, very
weird with no external symptoms, just high blood sugar. *Now we have o
do the whole finger prick 3x a day and insulin injections once a day
routine. *Better than some I know but dang, so sudden and out of the
blue.

I towed my Sandpiper 565 over 2500 miles round trip to a weekend rendezvous
in August 2007.
It was a bit tiresome, but worth it.

Wow, that's simply amazing.

Worth going or not
 

wrote in message
...
On Mar 19, 8:50 am, "Don White" wrote:
wrote in message

...

OK, now I find from my wife that we will only have 2 nights in the
Keys, I might be able to stretch it into 3. Maybe a couple days in
Lauderdale, maybe 3. Is it worth trailering the Tolman 20 nearly 600
miles one way? Man, I gotta have something to do down there otherwise
Lauderdale bores me silly. My wife knows I'll refuse to go if we dont
do anything interesting so she is sorta using the days in the Keys as
bait so I'll go see the in-laws.
For those kind enough to be concerned, it turns out my 12 yr old
daughter was diagnosed with diabetes officially today. Very, very
weird with no external symptoms, just high blood sugar. Now we have o
do the whole finger prick 3x a day and insulin injections once a day
routine. Better than some I know but dang, so sudden and out of the
blue.

I towed my Sandpiper 565 over 2500 miles round trip to a weekend
rendezvous
in August 2007.
It was a bit tiresome, but worth it.

Wow, that's simply amazing.

************************************************** ******

Thank you!
I realize it doesn't compare to 'poling' your flats boat all over Lake
Lanier...trying to avoid all the sand/mud bars...not to mention the thousand
redneck bubbas racing around in their gator boats.

Worth going or not
 

Don White wrote:
wrote in message
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On Mar 19, 8:50 am, "Don White" wrote:
wrote in message

...

OK, now I find from my wife that we will only have 2 nights in the
Keys, I might be able to stretch it into 3. Maybe a couple days in
Lauderdale, maybe 3. Is it worth trailering the Tolman 20 nearly 600
miles one way? Man, I gotta have something to do down there otherwise
Lauderdale bores me silly. My wife knows I'll refuse to go if we dont
do anything interesting so she is sorta using the days in the Keys as
bait so I'll go see the in-laws.
For those kind enough to be concerned, it turns out my 12 yr old
daughter was diagnosed with diabetes officially today. Very, very
weird with no external symptoms, just high blood sugar. Now we have o
do the whole finger prick 3x a day and insulin injections once a day
routine. Better than some I know but dang, so sudden and out of the
blue.
I towed my Sandpiper 565 over 2500 miles round trip to a weekend
rendezvous
in August 2007.
It was a bit tiresome, but worth it.

Wow, that's simply amazing.

************************************************** ******

Thank you!
I realize it doesn't compare to 'poling' your flats boat all over Lake
Lanier...trying to avoid all the sand/mud bars...not to mention the thousand
redneck bubbas racing around in their gator boats.



It's a pretty *little* lake. We flew over it for some reason on the trip
to Atlanta, and the pilot pointed it out. Unclear to me why anyone on
that lake would want a boat bigger than yours or mine.



--
The morality police - the bloviating gas bags of the religious right -
have fallen lower than the stock market. It has truly been an amazing
(and amusing) thing to watch these so-called "spokesmen of Christ"
defending their morally indefensible positions these days. Finally -
they're going away. It seems an answer to a prayer. Thank you, Lord.

Worth going or not
 

On Mar 19, 12:17*pm, "Don White" wrote:
wrote in message

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On Mar 19, 8:50 am, "Don White" wrote:





wrote in message

....

OK, now I find from my wife that we will only have 2 nights in the
Keys, I might be able to stretch it into 3. Maybe a couple days in
Lauderdale, maybe 3. Is it worth trailering the Tolman 20 nearly 600
miles one way? Man, I gotta have something to do down there otherwise
Lauderdale bores me silly. My wife knows I'll refuse to go if we dont
do anything interesting so she is sorta using the days in the Keys as
bait so I'll go see the in-laws.
For those kind enough to be concerned, it turns out my 12 yr old
daughter was diagnosed with diabetes officially today. Very, very
weird with no external symptoms, just high blood sugar. Now we have o
do the whole finger prick 3x a day and insulin injections once a day
routine. Better than some I know but dang, so sudden and out of the
blue.

I towed my Sandpiper 565 over 2500 miles round trip to a weekend
rendezvous
in August 2007.
It was a bit tiresome, but worth it.

Wow, that's simply amazing.

************************************************** ******

Thank you!
I realize it doesn't compare to 'poling' your flats boat all over Lake
Lanier...trying to avoid all the sand/mud bars...not to mention the thousand
redneck bubbas racing around in their gator boats.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

You just don't know how bigoted and dumb you sound. Let's see, I don't
have a "flats boat" and have never had one. Secondly, you may not know
anything about the area, as witnessed by your bigoted remarks, but
there are many large lakes in the area. Thirdly, with about 900 miles
of shoreline, one would be hard pressed "poling...all over Lake
Lanier". Thirdly, while I know that you are making bigoted, stupid,
and childish remarks about an area you know nothing about (ala Harry)
the area is progressive, and quite well off. The median income I'm
certain is much higher than Halifax. Fourthly, there are no gators in
the Atlanta area unless someone goes to the coastal swamps and puts
one in a lake or river, and they won't last. So, see how utterly
stupid you sound?

Worth going or not
 

On Mar 19, 12:23*pm, HK wrote:
Don White wrote:
wrote in message
....
On Mar 19, 8:50 am, "Don White" wrote:
wrote in message

....

OK, now I find from my wife that we will only have 2 nights in the
Keys, I might be able to stretch it into 3. Maybe a couple days in
Lauderdale, maybe 3. Is it worth trailering the Tolman 20 nearly 600
miles one way? Man, I gotta have something to do down there otherwise
Lauderdale bores me silly. My wife knows I'll refuse to go if we dont
do anything interesting so she is sorta using the days in the Keys as
bait so I'll go see the in-laws.
For those kind enough to be concerned, it turns out my 12 yr old
daughter was diagnosed with diabetes officially today. Very, very
weird with no external symptoms, just high blood sugar. Now we have o
do the whole finger prick 3x a day and insulin injections once a day
routine. Better than some I know but dang, so sudden and out of the
blue.
I towed my Sandpiper 565 over 2500 miles round trip to a weekend
rendezvous
in August 2007.
It was a bit tiresome, but worth it.

Wow, that's simply amazing.

************************************************** ******

Thank you!
I realize it doesn't compare to 'poling' your flats boat all over Lake
Lanier...trying to avoid all the sand/mud bars...not to mention the thousand
redneck bubbas racing around in their gator boats.

It's a pretty *little* lake. We flew over it for some reason on the trip
to Atlanta, and the pilot pointed it out. Unclear to me why anyone on
that lake would want a boat bigger than yours or mine.

--
See there you go! Harry has flown over it at 20,000 feet or so, so
he's an expert on all things Lanier! Why anyone would want a bigger
boat than yours? 900 miles of shoreline not counting islands.
Beautiful mountain scenery. Outside of monuments. etc. in the DC area,
it's just blah and flat....Maybe that's why you only put a few hours a
year on your boat.

Worth going or not
 

wrote in message
...
OK, now I find from my wife that we will only have 2 nights in the
Keys, I might be able to stretch it into 3. Maybe a couple days in
Lauderdale, maybe 3. Is it worth trailering the Tolman 20 nearly 600
miles one way? Man, I gotta have something to do down there otherwise
Lauderdale bores me silly. My wife knows I'll refuse to go if we dont
do anything interesting so she is sorta using the days in the Keys as
bait so I'll go see the in-laws.
For those kind enough to be concerned, it turns out my 12 yr old
daughter was diagnosed with diabetes officially today. Very, very
weird with no external symptoms, just high blood sugar. Now we have o
do the whole finger prick 3x a day and insulin injections once a day
routine. Better than some I know but dang, so sudden and out of the
blue.

Sorry to hear about the daughter DB.
FL Today has a weekly column which runs on Tuesdays in the Life and Health
section called "People Pharmacy". This column deals with natural remedies,
something I personally think are a good idea. Don't know if there is
anything on diabetes, but it may be worth checking out.

Worth going or not
 

"Don White" wrote in message
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wrote in message
...
OK, now I find from my wife that we will only have 2 nights in the
Keys, I might be able to stretch it into 3. Maybe a couple days in
Lauderdale, maybe 3. Is it worth trailering the Tolman 20 nearly 600
miles one way? Man, I gotta have something to do down there otherwise
Lauderdale bores me silly. My wife knows I'll refuse to go if we dont
do anything interesting so she is sorta using the days in the Keys as
bait so I'll go see the in-laws.
For those kind enough to be concerned, it turns out my 12 yr old
daughter was diagnosed with diabetes officially today. Very, very
weird with no external symptoms, just high blood sugar. Now we have o
do the whole finger prick 3x a day and insulin injections once a day
routine. Better than some I know but dang, so sudden and out of the
blue.


I towed my Sandpiper 565 over 2500 miles round trip to a weekend
rendezvous in August 2007.
It was a bit tiresome, but worth it.


That is idiotic. Maybe 2500 klics, but that is even a little stupid and
wasteful for a weekend. I have towed 400 miles to Oregon of a couple day
run, but I include a couple extra days. Since one does not tow at the speed
of the non towing, even if the speed limit was the same, the extra hours and
the extra fuel adds up. Driving my diesel truck without the boat I get
about 18-19 mpg for a 400 mile trip at 75-80 mph. Towing I get about 13.5
mpg at 65 mph and about 15 at 55 mph. Which is an extra 15 gallons for the
round trip. Plus you have a trailer failure at times. Just driving I could
take the wifes new Venza that should get 25-27 mpg. Which is a 30 gallon
saving. I love having the boat, and have towed it to Tofino in BC, but that
is for 2-3 weeks.

Worth going or not
 

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
m...

"Don White" wrote in message
...

wrote in message
...
OK, now I find from my wife that we will only have 2 nights in the
Keys, I might be able to stretch it into 3. Maybe a couple days in
Lauderdale, maybe 3. Is it worth trailering the Tolman 20 nearly 600
miles one way? Man, I gotta have something to do down there otherwise
Lauderdale bores me silly. My wife knows I'll refuse to go if we dont
do anything interesting so she is sorta using the days in the Keys as
bait so I'll go see the in-laws.
For those kind enough to be concerned, it turns out my 12 yr old
daughter was diagnosed with diabetes officially today. Very, very
weird with no external symptoms, just high blood sugar. Now we have o
do the whole finger prick 3x a day and insulin injections once a day
routine. Better than some I know but dang, so sudden and out of the
blue.


I towed my Sandpiper 565 over 2500 miles round trip to a weekend
rendezvous in August 2007.
It was a bit tiresome, but worth it.


That is idiotic. Maybe 2500 klics, but that is even a little stupid and
wasteful for a weekend. I have towed 400 miles to Oregon of a couple day
run, but I include a couple extra days. Since one does not tow at the
speed of the non towing, even if the speed limit was the same, the extra
hours and the extra fuel adds up. Driving my diesel truck without the
boat I get about 18-19 mpg for a 400 mile trip at 75-80 mph. Towing I get
about 13.5 mpg at 65 mph and about 15 at 55 mph. Which is an extra 15
gallons for the round trip. Plus you have a trailer failure at times.
Just driving I could take the wifes new Venza that should get 25-27 mpg.
Which is a 30 gallon saving. I love having the boat, and have towed it to
Tofino in BC, but that is for 2-3 weeks.

Guess you don't spend much time around real sailors.
People who race smaller dinghy type boats travel all over for races &
regattas.

Worth going or not
 

On Mar 19, 12:23*pm, HK wrote:
Don White wrote:
wrote in message
....
On Mar 19, 8:50 am, "Don White" wrote:
wrote in message

....

OK, now I find from my wife that we will only have 2 nights in the
Keys, I might be able to stretch it into 3. Maybe a couple days in
Lauderdale, maybe 3. Is it worth trailering the Tolman 20 nearly 600
miles one way? Man, I gotta have something to do down there otherwise
Lauderdale bores me silly. My wife knows I'll refuse to go if we dont
do anything interesting so she is sorta using the days in the Keys as
bait so I'll go see the in-laws.
For those kind enough to be concerned, it turns out my 12 yr old
daughter was diagnosed with diabetes officially today. Very, very
weird with no external symptoms, just high blood sugar. Now we have o
do the whole finger prick 3x a day and insulin injections once a day
routine. Better than some I know but dang, so sudden and out of the
blue.
I towed my Sandpiper 565 over 2500 miles round trip to a weekend
rendezvous
in August 2007.
It was a bit tiresome, but worth it.

Wow, that's simply amazing.

************************************************** ******

Thank you!
I realize it doesn't compare to 'poling' your flats boat all over Lake
Lanier...trying to avoid all the sand/mud bars...not to mention the thousand
redneck bubbas racing around in their gator boats.

It's a pretty *little* lake. We flew over it for some reason on the trip
to Atlanta, and the pilot pointed it out. Unclear to me why anyone on
that lake would want a boat bigger than yours or mine.

--
The morality police - the bloviating gas bags of the religious right -
have fallen lower than the stock market. It has truly been an amazing
(and amusing) thing to watch these so-called "spokesmen of Christ"
defending their morally indefensible positions these days. Finally -
they're going away. It seems an answer to a prayer. Thank you, Lord.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Little......900 miles of shoreline........
But...ooops......Harry must have forgotten his lie that he'd been ON
lake Lanier before.....

Worth going or not
 

"Don White" wrote in message
...

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
m...

"Don White" wrote in message
...

wrote in message
...
OK, now I find from my wife that we will only have 2 nights in the
Keys, I might be able to stretch it into 3. Maybe a couple days in
Lauderdale, maybe 3. Is it worth trailering the Tolman 20 nearly 600
miles one way? Man, I gotta have something to do down there otherwise
Lauderdale bores me silly. My wife knows I'll refuse to go if we dont
do anything interesting so she is sorta using the days in the Keys as
bait so I'll go see the in-laws.
For those kind enough to be concerned, it turns out my 12 yr old
daughter was diagnosed with diabetes officially today. Very, very
weird with no external symptoms, just high blood sugar. Now we have o
do the whole finger prick 3x a day and insulin injections once a day
routine. Better than some I know but dang, so sudden and out of the
blue.


I towed my Sandpiper 565 over 2500 miles round trip to a weekend
rendezvous in August 2007.
It was a bit tiresome, but worth it.


That is idiotic. Maybe 2500 klics, but that is even a little stupid and
wasteful for a weekend. I have towed 400 miles to Oregon of a couple day
run, but I include a couple extra days. Since one does not tow at the
speed of the non towing, even if the speed limit was the same, the extra
hours and the extra fuel adds up. Driving my diesel truck without the
boat I get about 18-19 mpg for a 400 mile trip at 75-80 mph. Towing I
get about 13.5 mpg at 65 mph and about 15 at 55 mph. Which is an extra
15 gallons for the round trip. Plus you have a trailer failure at times.
Just driving I could take the wifes new Venza that should get 25-27 mpg.
Which is a 30 gallon saving. I love having the boat, and have towed it
to Tofino in BC, but that is for 2-3 weeks.

Guess you don't spend much time around real sailors.
People who race smaller dinghy type boats travel all over for races &
regattas.


Yes, I know real sailers. Married the daughter of a racer. Last boat a 30'
Islander MK II. But driving 2500 miles for a weekend is not a normal smart
thing to do. Maybe if you could toss the dingy on top the car, then make
more sense. But very few dingy sailers travel a thousand miles each way
more than 1 or 2 times a year for a race. Just like when I raced cars. To
tow to Riverside Raceway, was a day down a day back and a weekend of racing.
Since I worked for a living and did not live off the government, I had to
schedule days off. And to go to Kent, Washington, took a day and a half
each way or tow for 15 hours to get there.

Worth going or not
 

Don White wrote:
wrote in message
...
OK, now I find from my wife that we will only have 2 nights in the
Keys, I might be able to stretch it into 3. Maybe a couple days in
Lauderdale, maybe 3. Is it worth trailering the Tolman 20 nearly 600
miles one way? Man, I gotta have something to do down there otherwise
Lauderdale bores me silly. My wife knows I'll refuse to go if we dont
do anything interesting so she is sorta using the days in the Keys as
bait so I'll go see the in-laws.
For those kind enough to be concerned, it turns out my 12 yr old
daughter was diagnosed with diabetes officially today. Very, very
weird with no external symptoms, just high blood sugar. Now we have o
do the whole finger prick 3x a day and insulin injections once a day
routine. Better than some I know but dang, so sudden and out of the
blue.


I towed my Sandpiper 565 over 2500 miles round trip to a weekend rendezvous
in August 2007.
It was a bit tiresome, but worth it.



Wow!

Worth going or not
 

Worth going or not
 

On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 16:38:19 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:

People who race smaller dinghy type boats travel all over for races &
regattas.

Of the one design, race around bouys boats, the biggest is the A scow.
38 feet, 1850 lbs. Seriously fast, more than thirty.

Casady