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Statistics for alt.machines.cnc, 16 Mar 2009
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Statistics for alt.machines.cnc, 16 Mar 2009
On Mar 17, 2:10*am, Cliff wrote:
On Mon, 16 Mar 2009 13:33:46 -0700, wrote: On Mon, 16 Mar 2009 12:30:35 -0700, BottleBob wrote: wrote: On Mon, 16 Mar 2009 10:17:31 -0800, sittingduck wrote: Chip Auger wrote: *1: jon_banquer : 34 *2: Gunner Asch : 34 *3: Cliff : 31 Are the three stooges sick? What gives? Asch is in the hospital............. Tom: * * * *Gunner's in the hospital? * Yes, since last Wednesday. He just got OUT of the hospital, where there some complications? * That is my guess. Is it serious? I don't know but it's an unexpected hospital stay six weeks after open heart surgery, I would guess it's serious. Tom * Dang welfare state !!!! * I'd wager he ignored the doctor's instructions, may have pulled his sternum open with some gun crazy stuff .... not taken his $$ meds .. ? * Worst case might be endocarditis ..... -- Cliff I'm going with "pulled his sternum open" I warned him directly about this possibility, but evidently he thinks he is uber mench and doesn't have to live by the Laws of Nature. As a survivor of a few broken bones of my own, they take a very long time to heal the older a person gets. He tried to go back to work too soon, and FUBARED himself up, no doubt about it. When will we see him again? Depends on how much damage he did to himself. Nick |
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On Tue, 17 Mar 2009 03:10:52 -0400, Cliff wrote:
On Mon, 16 Mar 2009 13:33:46 -0700, wrote: On Mon, 16 Mar 2009 12:30:35 -0700, BottleBob wrote: wrote: On Mon, 16 Mar 2009 10:17:31 -0800, sittingduck wrote: Chip Auger wrote: 1: jon_banquer : 34 2: Gunner Asch : 34 3: Cliff : 31 Are the three stooges sick? What gives? Asch is in the hospital............. Tom: Gunner's in the hospital? Yes, since last Wednesday. He just got OUT of the hospital, where there some complications? That is my guess. Is it serious? I don't know but it's an unexpected hospital stay six weeks after open heart surgery, I would guess it's serious. Tom Dang welfare state !!!! I'd wager he ignored the doctor's instructions, may have pulled his sternum open with some gun crazy stuff .... not taken his $$ meds .. ? Worst case might be endocarditis ..... Highest probability is a stroke/clot. Given his years of bile for the poor and health care, I wonder what the tab is for Gunner, the Welfare Queen, now? Something just doesn't fit. Gunner claimed he was making $75/hour yet had no health insurance. At his age of 54, 55, 56 health insurance would cost less than a day's work. Even if he was 70 as one post indicated Blue Cross with a $5k deductable would still be less than two days a month. Was gunner lying about his income or irresponsible about his health needs? In either case he is now the lowest form of life in his own words. Gunner should have watched "My Name Is Earl." -- Regards, Curly ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ $8,800,000,000,000.00, Angry Yet? Arrest Bush ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ |
Statistics for alt.machines.cnc, 16 Mar 2009
"Curly Surmudgeon" wrote in message ... On Tue, 17 Mar 2009 03:10:52 -0400, Cliff wrote: On Mon, 16 Mar 2009 13:33:46 -0700, wrote: On Mon, 16 Mar 2009 12:30:35 -0700, BottleBob wrote: wrote: On Mon, 16 Mar 2009 10:17:31 -0800, sittingduck wrote: Chip Auger wrote: 1: jon_banquer : 34 2: Gunner Asch : 34 3: Cliff : 31 Are the three stooges sick? What gives? Asch is in the hospital............. Tom: Gunner's in the hospital? Yes, since last Wednesday. He just got OUT of the hospital, where there some complications? That is my guess. Is it serious? I don't know but it's an unexpected hospital stay six weeks after open heart surgery, I would guess it's serious. Tom Dang welfare state !!!! I'd wager he ignored the doctor's instructions, may have pulled his sternum open with some gun crazy stuff .... not taken his $$ meds .. ? Worst case might be endocarditis ..... Highest probability is a stroke/clot. Given his years of bile for the poor and health care, I wonder what the tab is for Gunner, the Welfare Queen, now? Something just doesn't fit. Gunner claimed he was making $75/hour yet had no health insurance. At his age of 54, 55, 56 health insurance would cost less than a day's work. Even if he was 70 as one post indicated Blue Cross with a $5k deductable would still be less than two days a month. Was gunner lying about his income or irresponsible about his health needs? In either case he is now the lowest form of life in his own words. Gunner should have watched "My Name Is Earl." -- Regards, Curly $75/hour is a reasonable rate for an experienced machine tool mechanic. But he's self-employed, which means that you don't get many billable hours when things are slow. I worked on that basis for a couple of decades as a freelance writer; some weeks I worked 60 hours or more, others, none at all. My impression is that Gunner works long hours when the work is there. He may need a better marketing approach to even it out. g Considering where the business is now it's likely that he can't rely on a specific monthly income so it's hard to commit to something like individual health insurance. It cost me around $12,500/year a few years back, when I was paying the whole thing myself. It's around $15,000 now for the same coverage, with typical coverage you'd get if you worked for a good company. That's why we need a better plan in this country. If you're self-employed and you don't have close to a year's worth of savings to start with, health insurance is problematic. -- Ed Huntress |
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On Tue, 17 Mar 2009 13:15:46 -0400, Ed Huntress wrote:
"Curly Surmudgeon" wrote in message ... On Tue, 17 Mar 2009 03:10:52 -0400, Cliff wrote: On Mon, 16 Mar 2009 13:33:46 -0700, wrote: On Mon, 16 Mar 2009 12:30:35 -0700, BottleBob wrote: wrote: On Mon, 16 Mar 2009 10:17:31 -0800, sittingduck wrote: Chip Auger wrote: 1: jon_banquer : 34 2: Gunner Asch : 34 3: Cliff : 31 Are the three stooges sick? What gives? Asch is in the hospital............. Tom: Gunner's in the hospital? Yes, since last Wednesday. He just got OUT of the hospital, where there some complications? That is my guess. Is it serious? I don't know but it's an unexpected hospital stay six weeks after open heart surgery, I would guess it's serious. Tom Dang welfare state !!!! I'd wager he ignored the doctor's instructions, may have pulled his sternum open with some gun crazy stuff .... not taken his $$ meds .. ? Worst case might be endocarditis ..... Highest probability is a stroke/clot. Given his years of bile for the poor and health care, I wonder what the tab is for Gunner, the Welfare Queen, now? Something just doesn't fit. Gunner claimed he was making $75/hour yet had no health insurance. At his age of 54, 55, 56 health insurance would cost less than a day's work. Even if he was 70 as one post indicated Blue Cross with a $5k deductable would still be less than two days a month. Was gunner lying about his income or irresponsible about his health needs? In either case he is now the lowest form of life in his own words. Gunner should have watched "My Name Is Earl." -- Regards, Curly $75/hour is a reasonable rate for an experienced machine tool mechanic. But he's self-employed, which means that you don't get many billable hours when things are slow. I worked on that basis for a couple of decades as a freelance writer; some weeks I worked 60 hours or more, others, none at all. My impression is that Gunner works long hours when the work is there. He may need a better marketing approach to even it out. g Considering where the business is now it's likely that he can't rely on a specific monthly income so it's hard to commit to something like individual health insurance. It cost me around $12,500/year a few years back, when I was paying the whole thing myself. It's around $15,000 now for the same coverage, with typical coverage you'd get if you worked for a good company. That's why we need a better plan in this country. If you're self-employed and you don't have close to a year's worth of savings to start with, health insurance is problematic. Those prices are not indicative of normal health, didn't you say that you had a pre-existing condition? Gunner didn't. But I don't want to segue into health care costs, the bottom line in this thread is that Gunner abused the poor who had to rely on public health and even the institution itself. Now Gunner is the Welfare Queen he so hates. -- Regards, Curly ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ $8,800,000,000,000.00, Angry Yet? Arrest Bush ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ |
Statistics for alt.machines.cnc, 16 Mar 2009
"Curly Surmudgeon" wrote in message ... On Tue, 17 Mar 2009 13:15:46 -0400, Ed Huntress wrote: "Curly Surmudgeon" wrote in message ... On Tue, 17 Mar 2009 03:10:52 -0400, Cliff wrote: On Mon, 16 Mar 2009 13:33:46 -0700, wrote: On Mon, 16 Mar 2009 12:30:35 -0700, BottleBob wrote: wrote: On Mon, 16 Mar 2009 10:17:31 -0800, sittingduck wrote: Chip Auger wrote: 1: jon_banquer : 34 2: Gunner Asch : 34 3: Cliff : 31 Are the three stooges sick? What gives? Asch is in the hospital............. Tom: Gunner's in the hospital? Yes, since last Wednesday. He just got OUT of the hospital, where there some complications? That is my guess. Is it serious? I don't know but it's an unexpected hospital stay six weeks after open heart surgery, I would guess it's serious. Tom Dang welfare state !!!! I'd wager he ignored the doctor's instructions, may have pulled his sternum open with some gun crazy stuff .... not taken his $$ meds .. ? Worst case might be endocarditis ..... Highest probability is a stroke/clot. Given his years of bile for the poor and health care, I wonder what the tab is for Gunner, the Welfare Queen, now? Something just doesn't fit. Gunner claimed he was making $75/hour yet had no health insurance. At his age of 54, 55, 56 health insurance would cost less than a day's work. Even if he was 70 as one post indicated Blue Cross with a $5k deductable would still be less than two days a month. Was gunner lying about his income or irresponsible about his health needs? In either case he is now the lowest form of life in his own words. Gunner should have watched "My Name Is Earl." -- Regards, Curly $75/hour is a reasonable rate for an experienced machine tool mechanic. But he's self-employed, which means that you don't get many billable hours when things are slow. I worked on that basis for a couple of decades as a freelance writer; some weeks I worked 60 hours or more, others, none at all. My impression is that Gunner works long hours when the work is there. He may need a better marketing approach to even it out. g Considering where the business is now it's likely that he can't rely on a specific monthly income so it's hard to commit to something like individual health insurance. It cost me around $12,500/year a few years back, when I was paying the whole thing myself. It's around $15,000 now for the same coverage, with typical coverage you'd get if you worked for a good company. That's why we need a better plan in this country. If you're self-employed and you don't have close to a year's worth of savings to start with, health insurance is problematic. Those prices are not indicative of normal health, didn't you say that you had a pre-existing condition? Gunner didn't. Those were prices under COBRA. Everyone pays the same rate, exactly like job-based insurance. Again, that was for a typical policy, two individual family members included. If you're buying on your own, without COBRA, you won't go for the bells and whistles. In CA, rates are lower than in NJ. But a policy for someone over 55 or so ain't gonna be cheap. Gunner probably had enough preconditions to either jack up the prices or to exclude covered conditions, in any case. But I don't want to segue into health care costs, the bottom line in this thread is that Gunner abused the poor who had to rely on public health and even the institution itself. Now Gunner is the Welfare Queen he so hates. -- Regards, Curly It's not the first time he's had second thoughts about how health care works. We'll see what he thinks when he gets back. -- Ed Huntress |
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On Tue, 17 Mar 2009 08:21:27 -0700 (PDT), Nicholas
wrote: On Mar 17, 2:10?am, Cliff wrote: On Mon, 16 Mar 2009 13:33:46 -0700, wrote: On Mon, 16 Mar 2009 12:30:35 -0700, BottleBob wrote: wrote: On Mon, 16 Mar 2009 10:17:31 -0800, sittingduck wrote: Chip Auger wrote: ?1: jon_banquer : 34 ?2: Gunner Asch : 34 ?3: Cliff : 31 Are the three stooges sick? What gives? Asch is in the hospital............. Tom: ? ? ? ?Gunner's in the hospital? ? Yes, since last Wednesday. He just got OUT of the hospital, where there some complications? ? That is my guess. Is it serious? I don't know but it's an unexpected hospital stay six weeks after open heart surgery, I would guess it's serious. Tom ? Dang welfare state !!!! ? I'd wager he ignored the doctor's instructions, may have pulled his sternum open with some gun crazy stuff .... not taken his $$ meds .. ? ? Worst case might be endocarditis ..... -- Cliff I'm going with "pulled his sternum open" I warned him directly about this possibility, but evidently he thinks he is uber mench and doesn't have to live by the Laws of Nature. As a survivor of a few broken bones of my own, they take a very long time to heal the older a person gets. He tried to go back to work too soon, and FUBARED himself up, no doubt about it. When will we see him again? Depends on how much damage he did to himself. Nick Talked to him about an hour ago. He had a stroke. Doctors aren't sure why. He should be released sometime this afternoon. Matt |
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"Curly Surmudgeon" wrote in message ... On Tue, 17 Mar 2009 16:49:13 -0400, Ed Huntress wrote: "Curly Surmudgeon" wrote in message ... On Tue, 17 Mar 2009 13:15:46 -0400, Ed Huntress wrote: "Curly Surmudgeon" wrote in message ... On Tue, 17 Mar 2009 03:10:52 -0400, Cliff wrote: On Mon, 16 Mar 2009 13:33:46 -0700, wrote: On Mon, 16 Mar 2009 12:30:35 -0700, BottleBob wrote: wrote: On Mon, 16 Mar 2009 10:17:31 -0800, sittingduck wrote: Chip Auger wrote: 1: jon_banquer : 34 2: Gunner Asch : 34 3: Cliff : 31 Are the three stooges sick? What gives? Asch is in the hospital............. Tom: Gunner's in the hospital? Yes, since last Wednesday. He just got OUT of the hospital, where there some complications? That is my guess. Is it serious? I don't know but it's an unexpected hospital stay six weeks after open heart surgery, I would guess it's serious. Tom Dang welfare state !!!! I'd wager he ignored the doctor's instructions, may have pulled his sternum open with some gun crazy stuff .... not taken his $$ meds .. ? Worst case might be endocarditis ..... Highest probability is a stroke/clot. Given his years of bile for the poor and health care, I wonder what the tab is for Gunner, the Welfare Queen, now? Something just doesn't fit. Gunner claimed he was making $75/hour yet had no health insurance. At his age of 54, 55, 56 health insurance would cost less than a day's work. Even if he was 70 as one post indicated Blue Cross with a $5k deductable would still be less than two days a month. Was gunner lying about his income or irresponsible about his health needs? In either case he is now the lowest form of life in his own words. Gunner should have watched "My Name Is Earl." -- Regards, Curly $75/hour is a reasonable rate for an experienced machine tool mechanic. But he's self-employed, which means that you don't get many billable hours when things are slow. I worked on that basis for a couple of decades as a freelance writer; some weeks I worked 60 hours or more, others, none at all. My impression is that Gunner works long hours when the work is there. He may need a better marketing approach to even it out. g Considering where the business is now it's likely that he can't rely on a specific monthly income so it's hard to commit to something like individual health insurance. It cost me around $12,500/year a few years back, when I was paying the whole thing myself. It's around $15,000 now for the same coverage, with typical coverage you'd get if you worked for a good company. That's why we need a better plan in this country. If you're self-employed and you don't have close to a year's worth of savings to start with, health insurance is problematic. Those prices are not indicative of normal health, didn't you say that you had a pre-existing condition? Gunner didn't. Those were prices under COBRA. Everyone pays the same rate, exactly like job-based insurance. Again, that was for a typical policy, two individual family members included. If you're buying on your own, without COBRA, you won't go for the bells and whistles. In CA, rates are lower than in NJ. But a policy for someone over 55 or so ain't gonna be cheap. Gunner probably had enough preconditions to either jack up the prices or to exclude covered conditions, in any case. The premise here was gunner, alone. I stand by my original data that if he makes the income claimed that he could have purchased health insurance for less than a day per month of income. He didn't and became the Welfare Queen that he's spent years hoisting as the enemy of America. But I don't want to segue into health care costs, the bottom line in this thread is that Gunner abused the poor who had to rely on public health and even the institution itself. Now Gunner is the Welfare Queen he so hates. -- Regards, Curly It's not the first time he's had second thoughts about how health care works. We'll see what he thinks when he gets back. We'll see what happens when his personal property is confiscated for the bills he ran up. Remember, he spoke here about transferring it to someone else to avoid paying his bills. He became the parasitic leach that he once blamed on the poor. Well, even tho Gunner has yet to master the sillygism, I think despite some of his more offensive stances, he has a good heart with good intentions. I would like to think Gunner would stop and help a mutha****a in trouble, while most loudmouthed assholes would just run like hell. And, prior to his inevitable sillygismatic breakdowns, he would often make good points. I think his main perceptual flaw is properly perceiving the True Enemy. Which is a flaw most of us have, in one form or another, as we are almost always deprived of True&Relevant Information. Thus we flail wildly, politically, socially, economically -- and ultimately, we wind up flailing in elementary reasoning as well, which is the hallmark of the True Mind****. I think they give PhDs in mind****ing. Holders of these PhDs are called Media Consultants. And TeleEvangelists. It's funny -- or not so funny -- to see our """leaders""" flail, as well. goodgawd..... Altho methinks said flailing is perhaps a bit of a distractional ruse, so that Congressional/CorPirate Cock can surreptitiously slip into our Collective Asses. Gunner's flailing is just particularly noticeable. But, often with good points whilst flailing. Life do take its toll, yo. Hope he can fully recover from this stroke. -- Mr. PV'd Mae West (yer fav Congressman) to the Gangster (yer fav Lobbyist): Hey, Big Boy, is that a wad (of cash) in yer pocket, or are you just glad to see me?? -- Regards, Curly ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ $8,800,000,000,000.00, Angry Yet? 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On Tue, 17 Mar 2009 22:43:50 -0400, Proctologically Violated©® wrote:
"Curly Surmudgeon" wrote in message ... On Tue, 17 Mar 2009 16:49:13 -0400, Ed Huntress wrote: "Curly Surmudgeon" wrote in message ... On Tue, 17 Mar 2009 13:15:46 -0400, Ed Huntress wrote: "Curly Surmudgeon" wrote in message ... On Tue, 17 Mar 2009 03:10:52 -0400, Cliff wrote: On Mon, 16 Mar 2009 13:33:46 -0700, wrote: On Mon, 16 Mar 2009 12:30:35 -0700, BottleBob wrote: wrote: On Mon, 16 Mar 2009 10:17:31 -0800, sittingduck wrote: Chip Auger wrote: 1: jon_banquer : 34 2: Gunner Asch : 34 3: Cliff : 31 Are the three stooges sick? What gives? Asch is in the hospital............. Tom: Gunner's in the hospital? Yes, since last Wednesday. He just got OUT of the hospital, where there some complications? That is my guess. Is it serious? I don't know but it's an unexpected hospital stay six weeks after open heart surgery, I would guess it's serious. Tom Dang welfare state !!!! I'd wager he ignored the doctor's instructions, may have pulled his sternum open with some gun crazy stuff .... not taken his $$ meds .. ? Worst case might be endocarditis ..... Highest probability is a stroke/clot. Given his years of bile for the poor and health care, I wonder what the tab is for Gunner, the Welfare Queen, now? Something just doesn't fit. Gunner claimed he was making $75/hour yet had no health insurance. At his age of 54, 55, 56 health insurance would cost less than a day's work. Even if he was 70 as one post indicated Blue Cross with a $5k deductable would still be less than two days a month. Was gunner lying about his income or irresponsible about his health needs? In either case he is now the lowest form of life in his own words. Gunner should have watched "My Name Is Earl." -- Regards, Curly $75/hour is a reasonable rate for an experienced machine tool mechanic. But he's self-employed, which means that you don't get many billable hours when things are slow. I worked on that basis for a couple of decades as a freelance writer; some weeks I worked 60 hours or more, others, none at all. My impression is that Gunner works long hours when the work is there. He may need a better marketing approach to even it out. g Considering where the business is now it's likely that he can't rely on a specific monthly income so it's hard to commit to something like individual health insurance. It cost me around $12,500/year a few years back, when I was paying the whole thing myself. It's around $15,000 now for the same coverage, with typical coverage you'd get if you worked for a good company. That's why we need a better plan in this country. If you're self-employed and you don't have close to a year's worth of savings to start with, health insurance is problematic. Those prices are not indicative of normal health, didn't you say that you had a pre-existing condition? Gunner didn't. Those were prices under COBRA. Everyone pays the same rate, exactly like job-based insurance. Again, that was for a typical policy, two individual family members included. If you're buying on your own, without COBRA, you won't go for the bells and whistles. In CA, rates are lower than in NJ. But a policy for someone over 55 or so ain't gonna be cheap. Gunner probably had enough preconditions to either jack up the prices or to exclude covered conditions, in any case. The premise here was gunner, alone. I stand by my original data that if he makes the income claimed that he could have purchased health insurance for less than a day per month of income. He didn't and became the Welfare Queen that he's spent years hoisting as the enemy of America. But I don't want to segue into health care costs, the bottom line in this thread is that Gunner abused the poor who had to rely on public health and even the institution itself. Now Gunner is the Welfare Queen he so hates. -- Regards, Curly It's not the first time he's had second thoughts about how health care works. We'll see what he thinks when he gets back. We'll see what happens when his personal property is confiscated for the bills he ran up. Remember, he spoke here about transferring it to someone else to avoid paying his bills. He became the parasitic leach that he once blamed on the poor. Well, even tho Gunner has yet to master the sillygism, I think despite some of his more offensive stances, he has a good heart with good intentions. I would like to think Gunner would stop and help a mutha****a in trouble, while most loudmouthed assholes would just run like hell. Most wish to think well of others. Some people are just too bitter and heartless to think well of. And, prior to his inevitable sillygismatic breakdowns, he would often make good points. Really? Perhaps I can in late, that must have been years ago. I think his main perceptual flaw is properly perceiving the True Enemy. Which is a flaw most of us have, in one form or another, as we are almost always deprived of True&Relevant Information. Many people here have attempted to help gunner with his illogic. After being repulsed and attacked for doing so I gave up on the nasty, bitter, old mother****er. Thus we flail wildly, politically, socially, economically -- and ultimately, we wind up flailing in elementary reasoning as well, which is the hallmark of the True Mind****. I think they give PhDs in mind****ing. Holders of these PhDs are called Media Consultants. And TeleEvangelists. It's funny -- or not so funny -- to see our """leaders""" flail, as well. goodgawd..... Altho methinks said flailing is perhaps a bit of a distractional ruse, so that Congressional/CorPirate Cock can surreptitiously slip into our Collective Asses. Gunner's flailing is just particularly noticeable. But, often with good points whilst flailing. Perhaps you can give an example for I honestly cannot remember anything nice he did or tried to do here other than not jumping on the bandwagon against homosexuals. Other than that one issue he's dumped nothing but bile and hatred toward all to the left of Ghengis Khan. Life do take its toll, yo. Hope he can fully recover from this stroke. I, too, hope he fully recovers. So that he can repay the debt to society that he has run up. And eat crow for being a heartless ******* toward those not as fortunate as he or I. -- Regards, Curly ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ $8,800,000,000,000.00, Angry Yet? Arrest Bush ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ |
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On Tue, 17 Mar 2009 16:49:13 -0400, "Ed Huntress"
wrote: In CA, rates are lower than in NJ. But a policy for someone over 55 or so ain't gonna be cheap. Gunner probably had enough preconditions to either jack up the prices or to exclude covered conditions, in any case. When he was employed (pre-bush) he could have switched to carrying his own within ~ 60 days (or when CORBA ran out) and IIRC, most would have covered any pre-existing conditions. You generally lose that coverage for several years IF you allow a ~60 day lapse in coverage but not if you stay covered by any insurance firm (or switch firms). -- Cliff |
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On Tue, 17 Mar 2009 22:43:50 -0400, "Proctologically Violated©®"
wrote: Well, even tho Gunner has yet to master the sillygism, I think despite some of his more offensive stances, he has a good heart with good intentions. Hence his constant death threats to so many, eh? -- Cliff |
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On Tue, 17 Mar 2009 22:43:50 -0400, "Proctologically Violated©®"
wrote: Hope he can fully recover from this stroke. And be able to tell a W from an M? -- Cliff |
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Matt Stawicki wrote:
On Tue, 17 Mar 2009 08:21:27 -0700 (PDT), Nicholas wrote: On Mar 17, 2:10?am, Cliff wrote: On Mon, 16 Mar 2009 13:33:46 -0700, wrote: On Mon, 16 Mar 2009 12:30:35 -0700, BottleBob wrote: wrote: On Mon, 16 Mar 2009 10:17:31 -0800, sittingduck wrote: Chip Auger wrote: ?1: jon_banquer : 34 ?2: Gunner Asch : 34 ?3: Cliff : 31 Are the three stooges sick? What gives? Asch is in the hospital............. Tom: ? ? ? ?Gunner's in the hospital? ? Yes, since last Wednesday. He just got OUT of the hospital, where there some complications? ? That is my guess. Is it serious? I don't know but it's an unexpected hospital stay six weeks after open heart surgery, I would guess it's serious. Tom ? Dang welfare state !!!! ? I'd wager he ignored the doctor's instructions, may have pulled his sternum open with some gun crazy stuff .... not taken his $$ meds .. ? ? Worst case might be endocarditis ..... -- Cliff I'm going with "pulled his sternum open" I warned him directly about this possibility, but evidently he thinks he is uber mench and doesn't have to live by the Laws of Nature. As a survivor of a few broken bones of my own, they take a very long time to heal the older a person gets. He tried to go back to work too soon, and FUBARED himself up, no doubt about it. When will we see him again? Depends on how much damage he did to himself. Nick Talked to him about an hour ago. He had a stroke. Doctors aren't sure why. He should be released sometime this afternoon. Matt Strokes are no fun. Hope he gets better. Dan |
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"Cliff" wrote in message ... On Tue, 17 Mar 2009 16:49:13 -0400, "Ed Huntress" wrote: In CA, rates are lower than in NJ. But a policy for someone over 55 or so ain't gonna be cheap. Gunner probably had enough preconditions to either jack up the prices or to exclude covered conditions, in any case. When he was employed (pre-bush) he could have switched to carrying his own within ~ 60 days (or when CORBA ran out) and IIRC, most would have covered any pre-existing conditions. You generally lose that coverage for several years IF you allow a ~60 day lapse in coverage but not if you stay covered by any insurance firm (or switch firms). Most states don't require insurers to cover you after COBRA runs out (New York does; some others do). So, after 12 months or 18 months on COBRA, you're out of luck if you're rated. In my case, my COBRA eligibility overlapped my eligibility on my wife's plan at work. It was like falling from a high wire into a safety net. Now I have to make sure she stays happy and healthy. g -- Ed Huntress |
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On 17 Mar 2009 16:21:39 GMT, Curly Surmudgeon
wrote: On Tue, 17 Mar 2009 03:10:52 -0400, Cliff wrote: On Mon, 16 Mar 2009 13:33:46 -0700, wrote: On Mon, 16 Mar 2009 12:30:35 -0700, BottleBob wrote: wrote: On Mon, 16 Mar 2009 10:17:31 -0800, sittingduck wrote: Chip Auger wrote: 1: jon_banquer : 34 2: Gunner Asch : 34 3: Cliff : 31 Are the three stooges sick? What gives? Asch is in the hospital............. Tom: Gunner's in the hospital? Yes, since last Wednesday. He just got OUT of the hospital, where there some complications? That is my guess. Is it serious? I don't know but it's an unexpected hospital stay six weeks after open heart surgery, I would guess it's serious. Tom Dang welfare state !!!! I'd wager he ignored the doctor's instructions, may have pulled his sternum open with some gun crazy stuff .... not taken his $$ meds .. ? Worst case might be endocarditis ..... Highest probability is a stroke/clot. Given his years of bile for the poor and health care, I wonder what the tab is for Gunner, the Welfare Queen, now? Something just doesn't fit. Gunner claimed he was making $75/hour yet had no health insurance. At his age of 54, 55, 56 health insurance would cost less than a day's work. Even if he was 70 as one post indicated Blue Cross with a $5k deductable would still be less than two days a month. Was gunner lying about his income or irresponsible about his health needs? In either case he is now the lowest form of life in his own words. Gunner should have watched "My Name Is Earl." Gunner's not lying. He gets $75/hr for machine tool service. That's not a full time, 40 hr/week job. Some weeks are good, 5-6 service calls for a 50 hr week. Other weeks suck. You wind up with one or two 1 hour jobs. Then you get times when the economy is down, people find ways to fix their equipment themselves, or try to get by without needed repairs, and you find yourself with no service calls for two or three weeks. Been there, done that. Matt |
Statistics for alt.machines.cnc, 16 Mar 2009
On Tue, 17 Mar 2009 23:30:22 -0800, Matt Stawicki wrote:
On 17 Mar 2009 16:21:39 GMT, Curly Surmudgeon wrote: On Tue, 17 Mar 2009 03:10:52 -0400, Cliff wrote: On Mon, 16 Mar 2009 13:33:46 -0700, wrote: On Mon, 16 Mar 2009 12:30:35 -0700, BottleBob wrote: wrote: On Mon, 16 Mar 2009 10:17:31 -0800, sittingduck wrote: Chip Auger wrote: 1: jon_banquer : 34 2: Gunner Asch : 34 3: Cliff : 31 Are the three stooges sick? What gives? Asch is in the hospital............. Tom: Gunner's in the hospital? Yes, since last Wednesday. He just got OUT of the hospital, where there some complications? That is my guess. Is it serious? I don't know but it's an unexpected hospital stay six weeks after open heart surgery, I would guess it's serious. Tom Dang welfare state !!!! I'd wager he ignored the doctor's instructions, may have pulled his sternum open with some gun crazy stuff .... not taken his $$ meds .. ? Worst case might be endocarditis ..... Highest probability is a stroke/clot. Given his years of bile for the poor and health care, I wonder what the tab is for Gunner, the Welfare Queen, now? Something just doesn't fit. Gunner claimed he was making $75/hour yet had no health insurance. At his age of 54, 55, 56 health insurance would cost less than a day's work. Even if he was 70 as one post indicated Blue Cross with a $5k deductable would still be less than two days a month. Was gunner lying about his income or irresponsible about his health needs? In either case he is now the lowest form of life in his own words. Gunner should have watched "My Name Is Earl." Gunner's not lying. Stranger things have happened. He gets $75/hr for machine tool service. That's not a full time, 40 hr/week job. Some weeks are good, 5-6 service calls for a 50 hr week. Other weeks suck. You wind up with one or two 1 hour jobs. Then you get times when the economy is down, people find ways to fix their equipment themselves, or try to get by without needed repairs, and you find yourself with no service calls for two or three weeks. Then he had the $$$ for health insurance and chose not to purchase. The question of his military service remains. Gunner could have opted for VA care and avoided the hospital bills. Been there, done that. Matt -- Regards, Curly ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ $8,800,000,000,000.00, Angry Yet? Arrest Bush ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ |
Statistics for alt.machines.cnc, 16 Mar 2009
On Tue, 17 Mar 2009 15:36:17 -0800, Matt Stawicki
wrote: snip Nick Talked to him about an hour ago. He had a stroke. Doctors aren't sure why. He should be released sometime this afternoon. Matt ------------- Good to hear that he will be released soon. Lots of clots floating around after open heart surgery, and if you skimp on your medications the problem can be worse. Also a heart attack can indicate the entire body is wearing out. His commentaries and observations have been missed. Now if there were only some way to stay 30 years old until we die.... Unka' George [George McDuffee] ------------------------------------------- He that will not apply new remedies, must expect new evils: for Time is the greatest innovator: and if Time, of course, alter things to the worse, and wisdom and counsel shall not alter them to the better, what shall be the end? Francis Bacon (1561-1626), English philosopher, essayist, statesman. Essays, "Of Innovations" (1597-1625). |
Statistics for alt.machines.cnc, 16 Mar 2009
On 18 Mar 2009 12:54:39 GMT, Curly Surmudgeon
wrote: On Tue, 17 Mar 2009 23:30:22 -0800, Matt Stawicki wrote: He gets $75/hr for machine tool service. That's not a full time, 40 hr/week job. Some weeks are good, 5-6 service calls for a 50 hr week. Other weeks suck. You wind up with one or two 1 hour jobs. Then you get times when the economy is down, people find ways to fix their equipment themselves, or try to get by without needed repairs, and you find yourself with no service calls for two or three weeks. Then he had the $$$ for health insurance and chose not to purchase. What part of "Other weeks suck. You wind up with one or two 1 hour jobs." didn't you understand? I didn't imply that the 1 or 2 hour weeks happen only once in a while. Sometimes you can go for months without a decent service call. Matt |
Statistics for alt.machines.cnc, 16 Mar 2009
"Matt Stawicki" wrote in message ... On 18 Mar 2009 12:54:39 GMT, Curly Surmudgeon wrote: On Tue, 17 Mar 2009 23:30:22 -0800, Matt Stawicki wrote: He gets $75/hr for machine tool service. That's not a full time, 40 hr/week job. Some weeks are good, 5-6 service calls for a 50 hr week. Other weeks suck. You wind up with one or two 1 hour jobs. Then you get times when the economy is down, people find ways to fix their equipment themselves, or try to get by without needed repairs, and you find yourself with no service calls for two or three weeks. Then he had the $$$ for health insurance and chose not to purchase. "What part of "Other weeks suck. You wind up with one or two 1 hour jobs." didn't you understand? I didn't imply that the 1 or 2 hour weeks happen only once in a while. Sometimes you can go for months without a decent service call." I don't know a good service tech alive that hasn't been and isn't up to his eye balls. I've even gone out myself and at $140.00 per hour. Sheesh. JC |
Statistics for alt.machines.cnc, 16 Mar 2009
On Mar 18, 7:09*pm, Matt Stawicki wrote:
On 18 Mar 2009 12:54:39 GMT, Curly Surmudgeon wrote: On Tue, 17 Mar 2009 23:30:22 -0800, Matt Stawicki wrote: He gets $75/hr for machine tool service. That's not a full time, 40 hr/week job. Some weeks are good, 5-6 service calls for a 50 hr week. Other weeks suck. You wind up with one or two 1 hour jobs. Then you get times when the economy is down, people find ways to fix their equipment themselves, or try to get by without needed repairs, and you find yourself with no service calls for two or three weeks. Then he had the $$$ for health insurance and chose not to purchase. What part of "Other weeks suck. You wind up with one or two 1 hour jobs." didn't you understand? I didn't imply that the 1 or 2 hour weeks happen only once in a while. Sometimes you can go for months without a decent service call. Matt The way I hear it, a person in that position should have gotten a part time job at Wal-Mart or Mc Donald’s to fill in the 40 hour week instead of just laying around the house doing nothing. The hours on those jobs are pretty flexible, and according to some, they pay enough to not need any public assistance at all. A person with a machine tool shop could even make parts on contract just like the shops that he services does for a living. Personally, I have construction tools and use them to do odd jobs when the construction trade is slower then 40 hours a week. Built a bath room for a flea market just lately. |
Statistics for alt.machines.cnc, 16 Mar 2009
On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 09:02:50 -0700 (PDT), CanopyCo wrote:
On Mar 18, 7:09*pm, Matt Stawicki wrote: On 18 Mar 2009 12:54:39 GMT, Curly Surmudgeon wrote: On Tue, 17 Mar 2009 23:30:22 -0800, Matt Stawicki wrote: He gets $75/hr for machine tool service. That's not a full time, 40 hr/week job. Some weeks are good, 5-6 service calls for a 50 hr week. Other weeks suck. You wind up with one or two 1 hour jobs. Then you get times when the economy is down, people find ways to fix their equipment themselves, or try to get by without needed repairs, and you find yourself with no service calls for two or three weeks. Then he had the $$$ for health insurance and chose not to purchase. What part of "Other weeks suck. You wind up with one or two 1 hour jobs." didn't you understand? I didn't imply that the 1 or 2 hour weeks happen only once in a while. Sometimes you can go for months without a decent service call. Matt The way I hear it, a person in that position should have gotten a part time job at Wal-Mart or Mc Donald’s to fill in the 40 hour week instead of just laying around the house doing nothing. And he seems to be making 6 figures anyway. Plus there are all sorts of machines & things to fix, not just the ones he does. Lower income of he declared & paid taxes but ... still plenty for health ins IF he could stop buying guns & stuff. The hours on those jobs are pretty flexible, and according to some, they pay enough to not need any public assistance at all. A person with a machine tool shop could even make parts on contract just like the shops that he services does for a living. Personally, I have construction tools and use them to do odd jobs when the construction trade is slower then 40 hours a week. Built a bath room for a flea market just lately. I'd wager they took his guns, knives & explosives away from him at the hospital. Probably a full body cavity search too. He probably clanked a lot. "Out of his cold dead hands", right? -- Cliff |
Statistics for alt.machines.cnc, 16 Mar 2009
On Tue, 17 Mar 2009 23:30:22 -0800, Matt Stawicki
wrote: On 17 Mar 2009 16:21:39 GMT, Curly Surmudgeon wrote: On Tue, 17 Mar 2009 03:10:52 -0400, Cliff wrote: On Mon, 16 Mar 2009 13:33:46 -0700, wrote: On Mon, 16 Mar 2009 12:30:35 -0700, BottleBob wrote: wrote: On Mon, 16 Mar 2009 10:17:31 -0800, sittingduck wrote: Chip Auger wrote: 1: jon_banquer : 34 2: Gunner Asch : 34 3: Cliff : 31 Are the three stooges sick? What gives? Asch is in the hospital............. Tom: Gunner's in the hospital? Yes, since last Wednesday. He just got OUT of the hospital, where there some complications? That is my guess. Is it serious? I don't know but it's an unexpected hospital stay six weeks after open heart surgery, I would guess it's serious. Tom Dang welfare state !!!! I'd wager he ignored the doctor's instructions, may have pulled his sternum open with some gun crazy stuff .... not taken his $$ meds .. ? Worst case might be endocarditis ..... Highest probability is a stroke/clot. Given his years of bile for the poor and health care, I wonder what the tab is for Gunner, the Welfare Queen, now? Something just doesn't fit. Gunner claimed he was making $75/hour yet had no health insurance. At his age of 54, 55, 56 health insurance would cost less than a day's work. Even if he was 70 as one post indicated Blue Cross with a $5k deductable would still be less than two days a month. Was gunner lying about his income or irresponsible about his health needs? In either case he is now the lowest form of life in his own words. Gunner should have watched "My Name Is Earl." Gunner's not lying. He gets $75/hr for machine tool service. That's not a full time, 40 hr/week job. Some weeks are good, 5-6 service calls for a 50 hr week. Other weeks suck. You wind up with one or two 1 hour jobs. Then you get times when the economy is down, people find ways to fix their equipment themselves, or try to get by without needed repairs, and you find yourself with no service calls for two or three weeks. Been there, done that. Matt They all seem to think that that $75 is for 40 hours plus a week. This week, I made $190. Last week, I didnt make anything. The week before, I made $280 I cant remember what I made the weeks before that. Probably not very much. I do know that my rent at my RV is due for 2 months, $768...and I brought home $190 this week. Not going to be much better either, next week. And 6 days in the hospital, even without surgery....thats gonna be pricey. 6 weeks ago, I owed the hospital $125,000, not counting the doctors and so forth. Last week....shrug...no idea. I figure Im up to at least $250,000 though. Shrug. Gunner "Human nature is bad. Good is a human product* A warped piece of wood must be steamed and forced before it is made straight; a metal blade must be put to the whetstone before it becomes sharp. Since the nature of people is bad, to become corrected they must be taught by teachers and to be orderly they must acquire ritual and moral principles." —Sun Tzu * |
Statistics for alt.machines.cnc, 16 Mar 2009
On Mar 21, 12:44*pm, Deucalion wrote:
On Fri, 20 Mar 2009 23:04:57 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote: They all seem to think that that $75 is for 40 hours plus a week. * This week, I made $190. Last week, I didnt make anything. The week before, I made $280 I cant remember what I made the weeks before that. Probably not very much. I do know that my rent at my RV is due for 2 months, $768...and I brought home $190 this week. * Not going to be much better either, next week. I guess that answers the question about paying taxes huh? I guess he's qualified to be SecTreas, huh? |
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