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John H wrote:
http://tinyurl.com/br3c3a -- John H "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." Thomas Jefferson Do you see Venezuela as a model for our new "democracy Obama style"? |
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"Jim" wrote in message ... John H wrote: http://tinyurl.com/br3c3a -- John H "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." Thomas Jefferson Do you see Venezuela as a model for our new "democracy Obama style"? I do. Rants of taking over banks is no different than what is done in Venezuela. Liberty takes a huge hit. A wise statement from Thomas Jefferson. |
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Canuck57 wrote:
"Jim" wrote in message ... John H wrote: http://tinyurl.com/br3c3a -- John H "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." Thomas Jefferson Do you see Venezuela as a model for our new "democracy Obama style"? I do. Rants of taking over banks is no different than what is done in Venezuela. Liberty takes a huge hit. A wise statement from Thomas Jefferson. We've been taking over banks in this country for decades. FDIC takes 'em over, and then sells them to new owners who have lots of assets and sort of demonstrate they can run a bank properly. We have about a dozen large banks that should be taken over and their entire management staffs fired so new managers can be brought aboard. Nothing wrong with that. |
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John H wrote:
http://tinyurl.com/br3c3a -- John H "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." Thomas Jefferson Don't remember you complaining about Bush giving Wall Street bags of money with no accountability. Which is probably worse than socialism. Or maybe is what socialism actually is. |
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Jim wrote:
John H wrote: http://tinyurl.com/br3c3a -- John H "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." Thomas Jefferson Don't remember you complaining about Bush giving Wall Street bags of money with no accountability. Which is probably worse than socialism. Or maybe is what socialism actually is. Herring also did not complain when the incompetent Bush racked up $2 trillion+ in current and future costs of the idiotic war against Iraq. |
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"Jim" wrote in message m... John H wrote: http://tinyurl.com/br3c3a -- John H "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." Thomas Jefferson Don't remember you complaining about Bush giving Wall Street bags of money with no accountability. Which is probably worse than socialism. Or maybe is what socialism actually is. I call it corrupt-socialism. The rouse is socialism to make it look like it benefits the people, but lines the pockets of the corporate welfare greed lines. Sort of like taxation endentured slavery of the masses getting milked for the elite and aristocracy. |
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Canuck57 wrote:
"Jim" wrote in message m... John H wrote: http://tinyurl.com/br3c3a -- John H "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." Thomas Jefferson Don't remember you complaining about Bush giving Wall Street bags of money with no accountability. Which is probably worse than socialism. Or maybe is what socialism actually is. I call it corrupt-socialism. The rouse is socialism to make it look like it benefits the people, but lines the pockets of the corporate welfare greed lines. Sort of like taxation endentured slavery of the masses getting milked for the elite and aristocracy. But it's so much fun accusing Democrats of being Socialists. You have to be smart enough to know what some of the above words and concepts mean. Not as fun and easy as yelling "Socialist!" |
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Jim wrote:
Canuck57 wrote: "Jim" wrote in message m... John H wrote: http://tinyurl.com/br3c3a -- John H "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." Thomas Jefferson Don't remember you complaining about Bush giving Wall Street bags of money with no accountability. Which is probably worse than socialism. Or maybe is what socialism actually is. I call it corrupt-socialism. The rouse is socialism to make it look like it benefits the people, but lines the pockets of the corporate welfare greed lines. Sort of like taxation endentured slavery of the masses getting milked for the elite and aristocracy. But it's so much fun accusing Democrats of being Socialists. You have to be smart enough to know what some of the above words and concepts mean. Not as fun and easy as yelling "Socialist!" Survey sez 97.4% of righties have no idea what socialism is. |
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HK wrote:
Jim wrote: Canuck57 wrote: "Jim" wrote in message m... John H wrote: http://tinyurl.com/br3c3a -- John H "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." Thomas Jefferson Don't remember you complaining about Bush giving Wall Street bags of money with no accountability. Which is probably worse than socialism. Or maybe is what socialism actually is. I call it corrupt-socialism. The rouse is socialism to make it look like it benefits the people, but lines the pockets of the corporate welfare greed lines. Sort of like taxation endentured slavery of the masses getting milked for the elite and aristocracy. But it's so much fun accusing Democrats of being Socialists. You have to be smart enough to know what some of the above words and concepts mean. Not as fun and easy as yelling "Socialist!" Survey sez 97.4% of righties have no idea what socialism is. Educate us. What is your definition of socialism? |
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Eisboch wrote:
"John H" wrote in message ... Obama could have stopped paying for Iraq in two weeks. Any future costs are his baby. -- You have to realize that those who like to claim a 2 trillion dollar cost for the war in Iraq are using creative accounting techniques so suit their agendas. So far it has cost about 640-650 billion. (not that that's exactly chump change). The 2 trillion is a "projected cost" of maintaining the military in combat operations through 2019, a date that both Bush and Obama rejected. If Obama exits Iraq in accordance with his new time table, it will be generally in agreement with the timetable that Bush established during the last four months of his administration. Some things don't change. Eisboch It's actually higher than $2 trillion when you factor in such things as service-related injuries and illnesses resulting from Bush's Folly. |
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On Mar 7, 1:52*pm, HK wrote:
Jim wrote: Canuck57 wrote: "Jim" wrote in message news:E6mdnR9XZt0CJS_UnZ2dnUVZ_rHinZ2d@earthlink. com... John H wrote: http://tinyurl.com/br3c3a -- John H "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." *Thomas Jefferson Don't remember you complaining about Bush giving Wall Street bags of money with no accountability. Which is probably worse than socialism. *Or maybe is what socialism actually is. I call it corrupt-socialism. *The rouse is socialism to make it look like it benefits the people, but lines the pockets of the corporate welfare greed lines. *Sort of like taxation endentured slavery of the masses getting milked for the elite and aristocracy. But it's so much fun accusing Democrats of being Socialists. *You have to be smart enough to know what some of the above words and concepts mean. Not as fun and easy as yelling "Socialist!" Survey sez 97.4% of righties have no idea what socialism is. What's the survey on lefties say, Harry? |
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On Sat, 07 Mar 2009 06:50:41 -0500, Jim wrote:
John H wrote: http://tinyurl.com/br3c3a -- John H "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." Thomas Jefferson Do you see Venezuela as a model for our new "democracy Obama style"? Amen -- John H "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." Thomas Jefferson |
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On Sat, 07 Mar 2009 10:10:58 -0800, Jim wrote:
John H wrote: http://tinyurl.com/br3c3a -- John H "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." Thomas Jefferson Don't remember you complaining about Bush giving Wall Street bags of money with no accountability. Which is probably worse than socialism. Or maybe is what socialism actually is. Bush let himself get railroaded by Congress. Stupid move. That doesn't make Obama bright. Stupid on stupid is more stupid. Just ask Harry. -- John H "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." Thomas Jefferson |
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On Sat, 07 Mar 2009 13:16:11 -0500, HK wrote:
Jim wrote: John H wrote: http://tinyurl.com/br3c3a -- John H "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." Thomas Jefferson Don't remember you complaining about Bush giving Wall Street bags of money with no accountability. Which is probably worse than socialism. Or maybe is what socialism actually is. Herring also did not complain when the incompetent Bush racked up $2 trillion+ in current and future costs of the idiotic war against Iraq. Obama could have stopped paying for Iraq in two weeks. Any future costs are his baby. -- John H "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." Thomas Jefferson |
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On Sat, 7 Mar 2009 14:10:38 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote: On Mar 7, 1:52*pm, HK wrote: Jim wrote: Canuck57 wrote: "Jim" wrote in message news:E6mdnR9XZt0CJS_UnZ2dnUVZ_rHinZ2d@earthlink. com... John H wrote: http://tinyurl.com/br3c3a -- John H "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." *Thomas Jefferson Don't remember you complaining about Bush giving Wall Street bags of money with no accountability. Which is probably worse than socialism. *Or maybe is what socialism actually is. I call it corrupt-socialism. *The rouse is socialism to make it look like it benefits the people, but lines the pockets of the corporate welfare greed lines. *Sort of like taxation endentured slavery of the masses getting milked for the elite and aristocracy. But it's so much fun accusing Democrats of being Socialists. *You have to be smart enough to know what some of the above words and concepts mean. Not as fun and easy as yelling "Socialist!" Survey sez 97.4% of righties have no idea what socialism is. What's the survey on lefties say, Harry? LOL! -- John H "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." Thomas Jefferson |
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"John H" wrote in message ... Obama could have stopped paying for Iraq in two weeks. Any future costs are his baby. -- You have to realize that those who like to claim a 2 trillion dollar cost for the war in Iraq are using creative accounting techniques so suit their agendas. So far it has cost about 640-650 billion. (not that that's exactly chump change). The 2 trillion is a "projected cost" of maintaining the military in combat operations through 2019, a date that both Bush and Obama rejected. If Obama exits Iraq in accordance with his new time table, it will be generally in agreement with the timetable that Bush established during the last four months of his administration. Some things don't change. Eisboch |
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John H wrote:
http://tinyurl.com/br3c3a -- John H "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." Thomas Jefferson Nice post, John! |
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On Sat, 7 Mar 2009 19:37:08 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote: "John H" wrote in message .. . Obama could have stopped paying for Iraq in two weeks. Any future costs are his baby. -- You have to realize that those who like to claim a 2 trillion dollar cost for the war in Iraq are using creative accounting techniques so suit their agendas. So far it has cost about 640-650 billion. (not that that's exactly chump change). The 2 trillion is a "projected cost" of maintaining the military in combat operations through 2019, a date that both Bush and Obama rejected. What happens when you factor in the costs of medical care for returning vets, and keeping their families afloat? Tack on another Trillion, easily - not to mention the loss of a lot of thousands of productive lives, who will now be using resources rather than creating them. Maybe tack on 2 trillion. |
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wrote in message ... On Sat, 7 Mar 2009 19:37:08 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: "John H" wrote in message . .. Obama could have stopped paying for Iraq in two weeks. Any future costs are his baby. -- You have to realize that those who like to claim a 2 trillion dollar cost for the war in Iraq are using creative accounting techniques so suit their agendas. So far it has cost about 640-650 billion. (not that that's exactly chump change). The 2 trillion is a "projected cost" of maintaining the military in combat operations through 2019, a date that both Bush and Obama rejected. What happens when you factor in the costs of medical care for returning vets, and keeping their families afloat? Tack on another Trillion, easily - not to mention the loss of a lot of thousands of productive lives, who will now be using resources rather than creating them. Maybe tack on 2 trillion. A large part of the ending of FDR's depression was the millions of men taken out of the 24% unemployment workforce and sent overseas to fight, At about $60 a month. |
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CalifBill wrote:
wrote in message ... On Sat, 7 Mar 2009 19:37:08 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: "John H" wrote in message ... Obama could have stopped paying for Iraq in two weeks. Any future costs are his baby. -- You have to realize that those who like to claim a 2 trillion dollar cost for the war in Iraq are using creative accounting techniques so suit their agendas. So far it has cost about 640-650 billion. (not that that's exactly chump change). The 2 trillion is a "projected cost" of maintaining the military in combat operations through 2019, a date that both Bush and Obama rejected. What happens when you factor in the costs of medical care for returning vets, and keeping their families afloat? Tack on another Trillion, easily - not to mention the loss of a lot of thousands of productive lives, who will now be using resources rather than creating them. Maybe tack on 2 trillion. A large part of the ending of FDR's depression was the millions of men taken out of the 24% unemployment workforce and sent overseas to fight, At about $60 a month. FDR's depression? Hehehe. |
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Wayne.B wrote:
On Sun, 08 Mar 2009 08:04:42 -0400, John H wrote: Which is why it's such a shame to see one with your intellect and understanding wasting his time with the likes of Krause. Krause isn't interested in another's honest opinion. When presented with a decent argument his response is name-calling or personal insults Which is why the less said to, and about him, the better. The answer is in the kill file. There is very little incentive to respond to a post that you don't see. *Funniest* post I've read in several weeks, one asshole advising another. |
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On Sat, 7 Mar 2009 19:37:08 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote: "John H" wrote in message .. . Obama could have stopped paying for Iraq in two weeks. Any future costs are his baby. -- You have to realize that those who like to claim a 2 trillion dollar cost for the war in Iraq are using creative accounting techniques so suit their agendas. So far it has cost about 640-650 billion. (not that that's exactly chump change). The 2 trillion is a "projected cost" of maintaining the military in combat operations through 2019, a date that both Bush and Obama rejected. If Obama exits Iraq in accordance with his new time table, it will be generally in agreement with the timetable that Bush established during the last four months of his administration. Some things don't change. Eisboch Which is why it's such a shame to see one with your intellect and understanding wasting his time with the likes of Krause. Krause isn't interested in another's honest opinion. When presented with a decent argument his response is name-calling or personal insults, both of which you've recieved. He will not engage in a head-to-head discussion, because his positions (anti-Bush, anti-corp, anti-everything) are untenable. Just as the liberals are deflecting the focus off the economy, by using Rush, Harry deflects *any* argument getting close to home with his hate-Bush or hate-corporation rhetoric. Some things don't change. -- John H "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." Thomas Jefferson |
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On Sat, 7 Mar 2009 20:55:54 -0800, "CalifBill"
wrote: wrote in message .. . On Sat, 7 Mar 2009 19:37:08 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: "John H" wrote in message ... Obama could have stopped paying for Iraq in two weeks. Any future costs are his baby. -- You have to realize that those who like to claim a 2 trillion dollar cost for the war in Iraq are using creative accounting techniques so suit their agendas. So far it has cost about 640-650 billion. (not that that's exactly chump change). The 2 trillion is a "projected cost" of maintaining the military in combat operations through 2019, a date that both Bush and Obama rejected. What happens when you factor in the costs of medical care for returning vets, and keeping their families afloat? Tack on another Trillion, easily - not to mention the loss of a lot of thousands of productive lives, who will now be using resources rather than creating them. Maybe tack on 2 trillion. A large part of the ending of FDR's depression was the millions of men taken out of the 24% unemployment workforce and sent overseas to fight, At about $60 a month. And by 1965 that had gone all the way up to $72 per month! -- John H "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." Thomas Jefferson |
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On Sat, 7 Mar 2009 20:55:54 -0800, "CalifBill"
wrote: sent overseas to fight, At about $60 a month. It was up to ninty in 1966. Casady |
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"John H" wrote in message ... On Sat, 7 Mar 2009 20:55:54 -0800, "CalifBill" wrote: wrote in message . .. On Sat, 7 Mar 2009 19:37:08 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: "John H" wrote in message m... Obama could have stopped paying for Iraq in two weeks. Any future costs are his baby. -- You have to realize that those who like to claim a 2 trillion dollar cost for the war in Iraq are using creative accounting techniques so suit their agendas. So far it has cost about 640-650 billion. (not that that's exactly chump change). The 2 trillion is a "projected cost" of maintaining the military in combat operations through 2019, a date that both Bush and Obama rejected. What happens when you factor in the costs of medical care for returning vets, and keeping their families afloat? Tack on another Trillion, easily - not to mention the loss of a lot of thousands of productive lives, who will now be using resources rather than creating them. Maybe tack on 2 trillion. A large part of the ending of FDR's depression was the millions of men taken out of the 24% unemployment workforce and sent overseas to fight, At about $60 a month. And by 1965 that had gone all the way up to $72 per month! -- John H ....and you were grossly overpaid then! |
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"Jim" wrote in message m... Canuck57 wrote: "Jim" wrote in message m... John H wrote: http://tinyurl.com/br3c3a -- John H "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." Thomas Jefferson Don't remember you complaining about Bush giving Wall Street bags of money with no accountability. Which is probably worse than socialism. Or maybe is what socialism actually is. I call it corrupt-socialism. The rouse is socialism to make it look like it benefits the people, but lines the pockets of the corporate welfare greed lines. Sort of like taxation endentured slavery of the masses getting milked for the elite and aristocracy. But it's so much fun accusing Democrats of being Socialists. You have to be smart enough to know what some of the above words and concepts mean. Not as fun and easy as yelling "Socialist!" Agreed, I used it liberally in a broad scope. But none the less socialism such as wealth-bailout distribution is a socialist concept. Take from those that have done things right to provide to those who did not is socialism. |
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On Sun, 08 Mar 2009 08:04:42 -0400, John H
wrote: Which is why it's such a shame to see one with your intellect and understanding wasting his time with the likes of Krause. Krause isn't interested in another's honest opinion. When presented with a decent argument his response is name-calling or personal insults Which is why the less said to, and about him, the better. The answer is in the kill file. There is very little incentive to respond to a post that you don't see. |
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"HK" wrote in message m... Jim wrote: Canuck57 wrote: "Jim" wrote in message m... John H wrote: http://tinyurl.com/br3c3a -- John H "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." Thomas Jefferson Don't remember you complaining about Bush giving Wall Street bags of money with no accountability. Which is probably worse than socialism. Or maybe is what socialism actually is. I call it corrupt-socialism. The rouse is socialism to make it look like it benefits the people, but lines the pockets of the corporate welfare greed lines. Sort of like taxation endentured slavery of the masses getting milked for the elite and aristocracy. But it's so much fun accusing Democrats of being Socialists. You have to be smart enough to know what some of the above words and concepts mean. Not as fun and easy as yelling "Socialist!" Survey sez 97.4% of righties have no idea what socialism is. Neither do socialists. There is not one single successful true socialist society ever! Even meak attempts fail outright, usually for two important reasons. Corruption, you still have a aristocracy enslaving others by the guise of socialism and persuit of power over others. Second is economic, no one has figured out how to pay for it in a sustainable way. Even lefties are hypocrits here. |
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"BAR" wrote in message ... HK wrote: Jim wrote: Canuck57 wrote: "Jim" wrote in message m... John H wrote: http://tinyurl.com/br3c3a -- John H "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." Thomas Jefferson Don't remember you complaining about Bush giving Wall Street bags of money with no accountability. Which is probably worse than socialism. Or maybe is what socialism actually is. I call it corrupt-socialism. The rouse is socialism to make it look like it benefits the people, but lines the pockets of the corporate welfare greed lines. Sort of like taxation endentured slavery of the masses getting milked for the elite and aristocracy. But it's so much fun accusing Democrats of being Socialists. You have to be smart enough to know what some of the above words and concepts mean. Not as fun and easy as yelling "Socialist!" Survey sez 97.4% of righties have no idea what socialism is. Educate us. What is your definition of socialism? HK probably doesn't know. You can get the academic definition on Wiki but I prefer the practical definition. Socialism: Idealistic concept of equal opportunity and wealth distribution that overlooks the practical nature of mankind's ethics, greed and economics. It removes the will of people to do better and contribute to their best levels possible, as they are no longer rewarded for doing the extra. But has appeal to those on the bottom half of society that have less than the top half as it promises more wealth to them, usually via taxation. While true socialism is destined never to succeed, the promise of socialistic policies and taxation is often used by politicians to get votes from the naive and gullable seeking a free easy lunch. Such a panacea of socialistic policies always end up abused, broken promises and ultimate failure. Socialism is the redistribution of wealth, not based on merit, but wealth itself, it's archilies heal. |
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On Sun, 8 Mar 2009 09:56:04 -0600, "Canuck57"
wrote: "HK" wrote in message om... Jim wrote: Canuck57 wrote: "Jim" wrote in message m... John H wrote: http://tinyurl.com/br3c3a -- John H "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." Thomas Jefferson Don't remember you complaining about Bush giving Wall Street bags of money with no accountability. Which is probably worse than socialism. Or maybe is what socialism actually is. I call it corrupt-socialism. The rouse is socialism to make it look like it benefits the people, but lines the pockets of the corporate welfare greed lines. Sort of like taxation endentured slavery of the masses getting milked for the elite and aristocracy. But it's so much fun accusing Democrats of being Socialists. You have to be smart enough to know what some of the above words and concepts mean. Not as fun and easy as yelling "Socialist!" Survey sez 97.4% of righties have no idea what socialism is. Neither do socialists. There is not one single successful true socialist society ever! Even meak attempts fail outright, usually for two important reasons. Corruption, you still have a aristocracy enslaving others by the guise of socialism and persuit of power over others. Second is economic, no one has figured out how to pay for it in a sustainable way. Even lefties are hypocrits here. But the ignorant pay attention to the short term vote-buying, without realizing what's coming their way. Of course, the major media do their best to keep them ignorant. -- John H "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." Thomas Jefferson |
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"John H" wrote in message ... On Sun, 8 Mar 2009 09:56:04 -0600, "Canuck57" wrote: "HK" wrote in message news:CpKdneZ7wvnnTS_UnZ2dnUVZ_sTinZ2d@earthlink. com... Jim wrote: Canuck57 wrote: "Jim" wrote in message m... John H wrote: http://tinyurl.com/br3c3a -- John H "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." Thomas Jefferson Don't remember you complaining about Bush giving Wall Street bags of money with no accountability. Which is probably worse than socialism. Or maybe is what socialism actually is. I call it corrupt-socialism. The rouse is socialism to make it look like it benefits the people, but lines the pockets of the corporate welfare greed lines. Sort of like taxation endentured slavery of the masses getting milked for the elite and aristocracy. But it's so much fun accusing Democrats of being Socialists. You have to be smart enough to know what some of the above words and concepts mean. Not as fun and easy as yelling "Socialist!" Survey sez 97.4% of righties have no idea what socialism is. Neither do socialists. There is not one single successful true socialist society ever! Even meak attempts fail outright, usually for two important reasons. Corruption, you still have a aristocracy enslaving others by the guise of socialism and persuit of power over others. Second is economic, no one has figured out how to pay for it in a sustainable way. Even lefties are hypocrits here. But the ignorant pay attention to the short term vote-buying, without realizing what's coming their way. Of course, the major media do their best to keep them ignorant. -- John H "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." Thomas Jefferson A good depression will fix that. |
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On Mar 7, 6:50*am, Jim wrote:
John H wrote: http://tinyurl.com/br3c3a -- John H "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." * Thomas Jefferson Do you see Venezuela as a model for our new "democracy Obama style"? Of course! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KN2_j...eature=related |
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On Mon, 9 Mar 2009 18:41:08 -0600, "Canuck57"
wrote: "John H" wrote in message .. . On Sun, 8 Mar 2009 09:56:04 -0600, "Canuck57" wrote: "HK" wrote in message news:CpKdneZ7wvnnTS_UnZ2dnUVZ_sTinZ2d@earthlink .com... Jim wrote: Canuck57 wrote: "Jim" wrote in message m... John H wrote: http://tinyurl.com/br3c3a -- John H "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." Thomas Jefferson Don't remember you complaining about Bush giving Wall Street bags of money with no accountability. Which is probably worse than socialism. Or maybe is what socialism actually is. I call it corrupt-socialism. The rouse is socialism to make it look like it benefits the people, but lines the pockets of the corporate welfare greed lines. Sort of like taxation endentured slavery of the masses getting milked for the elite and aristocracy. But it's so much fun accusing Democrats of being Socialists. You have to be smart enough to know what some of the above words and concepts mean. Not as fun and easy as yelling "Socialist!" Survey sez 97.4% of righties have no idea what socialism is. Neither do socialists. There is not one single successful true socialist society ever! Even meak attempts fail outright, usually for two important reasons. Corruption, you still have a aristocracy enslaving others by the guise of socialism and persuit of power over others. Second is economic, no one has figured out how to pay for it in a sustainable way. Even lefties are hypocrits here. But the ignorant pay attention to the short term vote-buying, without realizing what's coming their way. Of course, the major media do their best to keep them ignorant. -- John H "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." Thomas Jefferson A good depression will fix that. Look at the voting habits of the inner-city depressed. They continue to vote for Democrats, even though they can't get their kids educated beyond the ability to use a syringe. -- John H "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." Thomas Jefferson |
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John H wrote:
On Mon, 9 Mar 2009 18:41:08 -0600, "Canuck57" wrote: "John H" wrote in message ... On Sun, 8 Mar 2009 09:56:04 -0600, "Canuck57" wrote: "HK" wrote in message m... Jim wrote: Canuck57 wrote: "Jim" wrote in message m... John H wrote: http://tinyurl.com/br3c3a -- John H "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." Thomas Jefferson Don't remember you complaining about Bush giving Wall Street bags of money with no accountability. Which is probably worse than socialism. Or maybe is what socialism actually is. I call it corrupt-socialism. The rouse is socialism to make it look like it benefits the people, but lines the pockets of the corporate welfare greed lines. Sort of like taxation endentured slavery of the masses getting milked for the elite and aristocracy. But it's so much fun accusing Democrats of being Socialists. You have to be smart enough to know what some of the above words and concepts mean. Not as fun and easy as yelling "Socialist!" Survey sez 97.4% of righties have no idea what socialism is. Neither do socialists. There is not one single successful true socialist society ever! Even meak attempts fail outright, usually for two important reasons. Corruption, you still have a aristocracy enslaving others by the guise of socialism and persuit of power over others. Second is economic, no one has figured out how to pay for it in a sustainable way. Even lefties are hypocrits here. But the ignorant pay attention to the short term vote-buying, without realizing what's coming their way. Of course, the major media do their best to keep them ignorant. -- John H "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." Thomas Jefferson A good depression will fix that. Look at the voting habits of the inner-city depressed. They continue to vote for Democrats, even though they can't get their kids educated beyond the ability to use a syringe. -- John H "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." Thomas Jefferson What's important is they were well "organized" and flooded the ballot boxes. |
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On Mar 10, 7:34*am, Jim wrote:
John H wrote: On Mon, 9 Mar 2009 18:41:08 -0600, "Canuck57" wrote: "John H" wrote in message . .. On Sun, 8 Mar 2009 09:56:04 -0600, "Canuck57" wrote: "HK" wrote in message news:CpKdneZ7wvnnTS_UnZ2dnUVZ_sTinZ2d@earthlin k.com... Jim wrote: Canuck57 wrote: "Jim" wrote in message news:E6mdnR9XZt0CJS_UnZ2dnUVZ_rHinZ2d@earth link.com... John H wrote: http://tinyurl.com/br3c3a -- John H "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." *Thomas Jefferson Don't remember you complaining about Bush giving Wall Street bags of money with no accountability. Which is probably worse than socialism. *Or maybe is what socialism actually is. I call it corrupt-socialism. *The rouse is socialism to make it look like it benefits the people, but lines the pockets of the corporate welfare greed lines. *Sort of like taxation endentured slavery of the masses getting milked for the elite and aristocracy. But it's so much fun accusing Democrats of being Socialists. *You have to be smart enough to know what some of the above words and concepts mean. Not as fun and easy as yelling "Socialist!" Survey sez 97.4% of righties have no idea what socialism is. Neither do socialists. *There is not one single successful true socialist society ever! * Even meak attempts fail outright, usually for two important reasons. *Corruption, you still have a aristocracy enslaving others by the guise of socialism and persuit of power over others. *Second is economic, no one has figured out how to pay for it in a sustainable way. Even lefties are hypocrits here. But the ignorant pay attention to the short term vote-buying, without realizing what's coming their way. Of course, the major media do their best to keep them ignorant. -- John H "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." Thomas Jefferson A good depression will fix that. Look at the voting habits of the inner-city depressed. They continue to vote for Democrats, even though they can't get their kids educated beyond the ability to use a syringe. -- John H "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." * Thomas Jefferson What's important is they were well "organized" and flooded the ballot boxes. And don't forget those who couldn't care less about a presidents qualifications or his base politics and agendas, as long as there wasn't a Caucasian in the office. |
And it's coming our way...
On Tue, 10 Mar 2009 08:34:18 -0400, Jim wrote:
John H wrote: On Mon, 9 Mar 2009 18:41:08 -0600, "Canuck57" wrote: "John H" wrote in message ... On Sun, 8 Mar 2009 09:56:04 -0600, "Canuck57" wrote: "HK" wrote in message m... Jim wrote: Canuck57 wrote: "Jim" wrote in message m... John H wrote: http://tinyurl.com/br3c3a -- John H "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." Thomas Jefferson Don't remember you complaining about Bush giving Wall Street bags of money with no accountability. Which is probably worse than socialism. Or maybe is what socialism actually is. I call it corrupt-socialism. The rouse is socialism to make it look like it benefits the people, but lines the pockets of the corporate welfare greed lines. Sort of like taxation endentured slavery of the masses getting milked for the elite and aristocracy. But it's so much fun accusing Democrats of being Socialists. You have to be smart enough to know what some of the above words and concepts mean. Not as fun and easy as yelling "Socialist!" Survey sez 97.4% of righties have no idea what socialism is. Neither do socialists. There is not one single successful true socialist society ever! Even meak attempts fail outright, usually for two important reasons. Corruption, you still have a aristocracy enslaving others by the guise of socialism and persuit of power over others. Second is economic, no one has figured out how to pay for it in a sustainable way. Even lefties are hypocrits here. But the ignorant pay attention to the short term vote-buying, without realizing what's coming their way. Of course, the major media do their best to keep them ignorant. -- John H "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." Thomas Jefferson A good depression will fix that. Look at the voting habits of the inner-city depressed. They continue to vote for Democrats, even though they can't get their kids educated beyond the ability to use a syringe. -- John H "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." Thomas Jefferson What's important is they were well "organized" and flooded the ballot boxes. So they can pass their wisdom down through the ages. -- John H "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." Thomas Jefferson |
And it's coming our way...
John H wrote:
On Tue, 10 Mar 2009 08:34:18 -0400, Jim wrote: John H wrote: On Mon, 9 Mar 2009 18:41:08 -0600, "Canuck57" wrote: "John H" wrote in message ... On Sun, 8 Mar 2009 09:56:04 -0600, "Canuck57" wrote: "HK" wrote in message m... Jim wrote: Canuck57 wrote: "Jim" wrote in message m... John H wrote: http://tinyurl.com/br3c3a -- John H "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." Thomas Jefferson Don't remember you complaining about Bush giving Wall Street bags of money with no accountability. Which is probably worse than socialism. Or maybe is what socialism actually is. I call it corrupt-socialism. The rouse is socialism to make it look like it benefits the people, but lines the pockets of the corporate welfare greed lines. Sort of like taxation endentured slavery of the masses getting milked for the elite and aristocracy. But it's so much fun accusing Democrats of being Socialists. You have to be smart enough to know what some of the above words and concepts mean. Not as fun and easy as yelling "Socialist!" Survey sez 97.4% of righties have no idea what socialism is. Neither do socialists. There is not one single successful true socialist society ever! Even meak attempts fail outright, usually for two important reasons. Corruption, you still have a aristocracy enslaving others by the guise of socialism and persuit of power over others. Second is economic, no one has figured out how to pay for it in a sustainable way. Even lefties are hypocrits here. But the ignorant pay attention to the short term vote-buying, without realizing what's coming their way. Of course, the major media do their best to keep them ignorant. -- John H "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." Thomas Jefferson A good depression will fix that. Look at the voting habits of the inner-city depressed. They continue to vote for Democrats, even though they can't get their kids educated beyond the ability to use a syringe. -- John H "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." Thomas Jefferson What's important is they were well "organized" and flooded the ballot boxes. So they can pass their wisdom down through the ages. -- John H "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." Thomas Jefferson Fer sure. Taint it wunerful? |
And it's coming our way...
wrote in message ... On Mar 10, 7:34 am, Jim wrote: John H wrote: On Mon, 9 Mar 2009 18:41:08 -0600, "Canuck57" wrote: "John H" wrote in message . .. On Sun, 8 Mar 2009 09:56:04 -0600, "Canuck57" wrote: "HK" wrote in message news:CpKdneZ7wvnnTS_UnZ2dnUVZ_sTinZ2d@earthlin k.com... Jim wrote: Canuck57 wrote: "Jim" wrote in message news:E6mdnR9XZt0CJS_UnZ2dnUVZ_rHinZ2d@earth link.com... John H wrote: http://tinyurl.com/br3c3a -- John H "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." Thomas Jefferson Don't remember you complaining about Bush giving Wall Street bags of money with no accountability. Which is probably worse than socialism. Or maybe is what socialism actually is. I call it corrupt-socialism. The rouse is socialism to make it look like it benefits the people, but lines the pockets of the corporate welfare greed lines. Sort of like taxation endentured slavery of the masses getting milked for the elite and aristocracy. But it's so much fun accusing Democrats of being Socialists. You have to be smart enough to know what some of the above words and concepts mean. Not as fun and easy as yelling "Socialist!" Survey sez 97.4% of righties have no idea what socialism is. Neither do socialists. There is not one single successful true socialist society ever! Even meak attempts fail outright, usually for two important reasons. Corruption, you still have a aristocracy enslaving others by the guise of socialism and persuit of power over others. Second is economic, no one has figured out how to pay for it in a sustainable way. Even lefties are hypocrits here. But the ignorant pay attention to the short term vote-buying, without realizing what's coming their way. Of course, the major media do their best to keep them ignorant. -- John H "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." Thomas Jefferson A good depression will fix that. Look at the voting habits of the inner-city depressed. They continue to vote for Democrats, even though they can't get their kids educated beyond the ability to use a syringe. -- John H "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." Thomas Jefferson What's important is they were well "organized" and flooded the ballot boxes. And don't forget those who couldn't care less about a presidents qualifications or his base politics and agendas, as long as there wasn't a Caucasian in the office. --------- They might change their mind after Obamonomics. Not off to a good start, that is for sure. |
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