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On Feb 8, 8:47*am, (Richard Casady)
The exotic **** he has in the books was stuff like shoes with hidden
daggers, with the heels for handles. Hidden compartment for a
large handgun in the dash of his car, stuff like that. Simple, cheap,
easily fabricated stuff that would work in real life.

Casady
But like I said it's amazing what you can do with government money.

?;^ )

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On Sun, 8 Feb 2009 09:56:45 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Feb 8, 11:47*am, Zombie of Woodstock wrote:
On Sun, 8 Feb 2009 07:38:44 -0800 (PST), wrote:
On Feb 8, 9:53*am, wrote:
On Feb 8, 9:49*am, wrote:

On Feb 7, 11:43*pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:

"Zombie of Woodstock" wrote in messagenews:u3kso4pu9djhbhfo28q82ahq75tfonm8tf@4ax .com...

On Sat, 7 Feb 2009 19:18:17 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

On Feb 7, 9:17 pm, Zombie of Woodstock wrote:
On Sat, 7 Feb 2009 17:58:26 -0800 (PST),

wrote:
Just out of curiosity.. er. what's the fastest care you own? Could
it beeeeeeeeeeeeee a frekin' Cheby???

Ahem...um...er...

Yes. :)

Yes indeed....

Although technically, it's not a Chevy.

It's a Corvette.

Made by GM, but it's not a Chevy.

One Ford in the top ten?? I mean he's in first, but there are two laps
and he is surrounded by the enemy;)

It's a conspiracy by GM - all their Chevy drivers took out the Ford
drivers.

What's the matter - your Chevy drivers can't keep their cars straight?

Damn - my wife drives better than that.

--

"I intend to live forever. So far, so good."

Steven Wright

Jeff Gordon. *How can they not shake a flag at him for such bad driving.
Gets to the almost front and then slows down through the middle of the pack
causing carnage. *Then speeds up again. *Couple times.

NASCAR has a reputation of letting their "stars" get away with
anything. *DE paved the way with his "If you can't beat 'em, wreck
'em" driving style. *NASCAR sold their soul to GM years ago, and now
with the COT, it's just a joke.

Bring back Pearson and the Woods Brothers, and I'll watch again. *Race
on Sunday, sell on Monday. *:-)- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Yeah, if you want to see racin' like that, you have to go to your
local track on Friday Night, but it's still better than Basketball;)

I hear ya... growing up, I had two uncles that built and raced dirt
track cars. *One was in my home town, and my Dad did most of the
fabricating on his car. *While my Dad was (and is) a machinist by
trade, he was also a good bodyman and mechanic. *He'll be 82 this
June, and while he's slowed a bit, he's still doing well.

Here's a pic of one of my uncle's car:
http://members.fortunecity.com/oldsprinter/skee14.jpg

He was pretty famous in the area, always placing in the top 3, and
winning most races. *Pretty cool... I hadn't thought about him in a
while. *He's been dead for about ten years now. *Great guy.

Ah - legend cars.

Love 'em.

They run those up at Darlington on Saturday nights?

Or is that Lowes up in Charlotte?


I believe they run them up in Charlotte, but that's not a legends car.

That car is a dirt track "skeeter" that was run back in the 60s to mid
'70s on dirt tracks in the south. That thing has real sheet metal in
it... it started life as a real '30's car.

As I remember, they ran three classes at local tracks back then.
"Hobby" (newbies), "Late Model Sportsman", and "Skeeter". Uncle Fred,
who campaigned that car, ran in the Skeeter and Sportsman classes.
His number was always 90, and his cars were black and gold.

Ah- well, similar at least.

--

"I intend to live forever. So far, so good."

Steven Wright

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On Sun, 8 Feb 2009 14:26:35 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote:


"Calif Bill" wrote in message
om...


Actually it is a road race. Sort of like driving in Boston and trying to
get out of a round-a-bout. Or whatever those things is called.

They used to be called a "rotary". But, as the liberals have become more
influential over the years, they are now called "round-a-bouts".

I never called them a rotary nor did I call them a "round-a-bout".

I called them #$%%##$%*&*&&##@$$%%##$&**&*&^ pains in the ass.

Espiecally the one in Revere by the MTA station and the one in Lynn at
the Swampscott line.

~ mutter ~

--

"I am free of all prejudices. I hate every one equally."

W.C. Fields

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"Zombie of Woodstock" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 8 Feb 2009 14:26:35 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote:


"Calif Bill" wrote in message
news:Tp6dnWBwFZdashLUnZ2dnUVZ_oHinZ2d@earthlink. com...


Actually it is a road race. Sort of like driving in Boston and trying
to
get out of a round-a-bout. Or whatever those things is called.

They used to be called a "rotary". But, as the liberals have become more
influential over the years, they are now called "round-a-bouts".

I never called them a rotary nor did I call them a "round-a-bout".

I called them #$%%##$%*&*&&##@$$%%##$&**&*&^ pains in the ass.

Espiecally the one in Revere by the MTA station and the one in Lynn at
the Swampscott line.

~ mutter ~



Years ago, this state decided that rotaries were a traffic impediment and
safety hazard, so a program was funded to do away with them. Then, years
later, somebody realized that a rotary in a multi road intersection was the
most efficient way to move traffic safely, so they started rebuilding them.

Go figure.

One thing is for sure though. The traffic going over the Sagamore Bridge to
Cape Cod moves much better since they eliminated the rotary that existed for
years on the north side of the bridge.
Now they call it a "fly over".

Eisboch

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"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"Zombie of Woodstock" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 8 Feb 2009 14:26:35 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote:


"Calif Bill" wrote in message
news:Tp6dnWBwFZdashLUnZ2dnUVZ_oHinZ2d@earthlink .com...


Actually it is a road race. Sort of like driving in Boston and trying
to
get out of a round-a-bout. Or whatever those things is called.

They used to be called a "rotary". But, as the liberals have become
more
influential over the years, they are now called "round-a-bouts".

I never called them a rotary nor did I call them a "round-a-bout".

I called them #$%%##$%*&*&&##@$$%%##$&**&*&^ pains in the ass.

Espiecally the one in Revere by the MTA station and the one in Lynn at
the Swampscott line.

~ mutter ~



Years ago, this state decided that rotaries were a traffic impediment and
safety hazard, so a program was funded to do away with them. Then,
years later, somebody realized that a rotary in a multi road intersection
was the most efficient way to move traffic safely, so they started
rebuilding them.

Go figure.

One thing is for sure though. The traffic going over the Sagamore Bridge
to Cape Cod moves much better since they eliminated the rotary that
existed for years on the north side of the bridge.
Now they call it a "fly over".

Eisboch

They put a couple rotaries in the road near my house when they developed
some lots. Bad design, but they did leave a very small curb at the edge.
Maybe 1.5" so the firetrucks could make it around the rotary faster. Best
thing they did with the rotaries was take a D-9 Cat to them after too many
accidents and complaints.

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"Zombie of Woodstock" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 8 Feb 2009 09:56:45 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Feb 8, 11:47 am, Zombie of Woodstock wrote:
On Sun, 8 Feb 2009 07:38:44 -0800 (PST), wrote:
On Feb 8, 9:53 am, wrote:
On Feb 8, 9:49 am, wrote:

On Feb 7, 11:43 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:

"Zombie of Woodstock" wrote in
messagenews:u3kso4pu9djhbhfo28q82ahq75tfonm8tf@4ax .com...

On Sat, 7 Feb 2009 19:18:17 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

On Feb 7, 9:17 pm, Zombie of Woodstock
wrote:
On Sat, 7 Feb 2009 17:58:26 -0800 (PST),

wrote:
Just out of curiosity.. er. what's the fastest care you
own? Could
it beeeeeeeeeeeeee a frekin' Cheby???

Ahem...um...er...

Yes. :)

Yes indeed....

Although technically, it's not a Chevy.

It's a Corvette.

Made by GM, but it's not a Chevy.

One Ford in the top ten?? I mean he's in first, but there are
two laps
and he is surrounded by the enemy;)

It's a conspiracy by GM - all their Chevy drivers took out the
Ford
drivers.

What's the matter - your Chevy drivers can't keep their cars
straight?

Damn - my wife drives better than that.

--

"I intend to live forever. So far, so good."

Steven Wright

Jeff Gordon. How can they not shake a flag at him for such bad
driving.
Gets to the almost front and then slows down through the middle
of the pack
causing carnage. Then speeds up again. Couple times.

NASCAR has a reputation of letting their "stars" get away with
anything. DE paved the way with his "If you can't beat 'em, wreck
'em" driving style. NASCAR sold their soul to GM years ago, and now
with the COT, it's just a joke.

Bring back Pearson and the Woods Brothers, and I'll watch again.
Race
on Sunday, sell on Monday. :-)- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Yeah, if you want to see racin' like that, you have to go to your
local track on Friday Night, but it's still better than Basketball;)

I hear ya... growing up, I had two uncles that built and raced dirt
track cars. One was in my home town, and my Dad did most of the
fabricating on his car. While my Dad was (and is) a machinist by
trade, he was also a good bodyman and mechanic. He'll be 82 this
June, and while he's slowed a bit, he's still doing well.

Here's a pic of one of my uncle's car:
http://members.fortunecity.com/oldsprinter/skee14.jpg

He was pretty famous in the area, always placing in the top 3, and
winning most races. Pretty cool... I hadn't thought about him in a
while. He's been dead for about ten years now. Great guy.

Ah - legend cars.

Love 'em.

They run those up at Darlington on Saturday nights?

Or is that Lowes up in Charlotte?


I believe they run them up in Charlotte, but that's not a legends car.

That car is a dirt track "skeeter" that was run back in the 60s to mid
'70s on dirt tracks in the south. That thing has real sheet metal in
it... it started life as a real '30's car.

As I remember, they ran three classes at local tracks back then.
"Hobby" (newbies), "Late Model Sportsman", and "Skeeter". Uncle Fred,
who campaigned that car, ran in the Skeeter and Sportsman classes.
His number was always 90, and his cars were black and gold.

Ah- well, similar at least.

--

"I intend to live forever. So far, so good."

Steven Wright

My dad was a supplier of machine shop services to lots of racers. He at one
time shaved probably 60% of the V8-60 race heads west of the Mississippi.
Built a rig that screwed into the sparkplug holes so he could chuck up the
head and shave it. Before the days of Flycutters. My uncle ran a couple
service stations and garages and sponsored the local champion. The days
when we had about 5 dirt tracks in the bay area. I think Stockton 99 and
San Jose Speedway are the only ones left.
http://vallejospeedwayhardtops.homestead.com/ has some great old pics.

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On Feb 8, 11:46*am, Zombie of Woodstock wrote:
On Sun, 8 Feb 2009 06:49:26 -0800 (PST), wrote:
On Feb 7, 11:43*pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
"Zombie of Woodstock" wrote in messagenews:u3kso4pu9djhbhfo28q82ahq75tfonm8tf@4ax .com...

On Sat, 7 Feb 2009 19:18:17 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

On Feb 7, 9:17 pm, Zombie of Woodstock wrote:
On Sat, 7 Feb 2009 17:58:26 -0800 (PST),

wrote:
Just out of curiosity.. er. what's the fastest care you own? Could
it beeeeeeeeeeeeee a frekin' Cheby???

Ahem...um...er...

Yes. :)

Yes indeed....

Although technically, it's not a Chevy.

It's a Corvette.

Made by GM, but it's not a Chevy.

One Ford in the top ten?? I mean he's in first, but there are two laps
and he is surrounded by the enemy;)

It's a conspiracy by GM - all their Chevy drivers took out the Ford
drivers.

What's the matter - your Chevy drivers can't keep their cars straight?

Damn - my wife drives better than that.

Jeff Gordon. *How can they not shake a flag at him for such bad driving.
Gets to the almost front and then slows down through the middle of the pack
causing carnage. *Then speeds up again. *Couple times.

NASCAR has a reputation of letting their "stars" get away with
anything. *DE paved the way with his "If you can't beat 'em, wreck
'em" driving style. *NASCAR sold their soul to GM years ago, and now
with the COT, it's just a joke.

It's endemic in all motor sports. *Hell, even F1 got caught up in it
when they obviously knew that Schumacher was running rocket fuel until
word got out, then all of a sudden - whoops - naughty, naughty.

Ferrari owns F1 like GM owns NASCAR.

I hate the COT and I blame Jeff Burton for that - he caterwauled about
driver safety, driver safety and too expensive, too expensive, too
expensive and look what we got - crappy looking cars that don't handle
for squat on any type of track and you get lousy races like last
night.

Bring back Pearson and the Woods Brothers, and I'll watch again. *Race
on Sunday, sell on Monday. *:-)

Damn straight. *:)

--

"Far better it is to dare mighty things,
to win glorious triumphs even though
checkered by failure, than to rank with
those poor spirits who neither enjoy nor
suffer much because they live in the gray
twilight that knows neither victory nor
defeat."

Theodore Roosevelt- Hide quoted text -

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Actually, teams are getting the new car dialed in nicely, and it's
making some damned good racing. What looks strange as all hell is the
way they've got those things crabbing to make them tighter. You see
them on the straight and it looks like the ass end is coming around!

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On Feb 8, 10:38*am, wrote:
On Feb 8, 9:53*am, wrote:





On Feb 8, 9:49*am, wrote:

On Feb 7, 11:43*pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:

"Zombie of Woodstock" wrote in messagenews:u3kso4pu9djhbhfo28q82ahq75tfonm8tf@4ax .com...

On Sat, 7 Feb 2009 19:18:17 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

On Feb 7, 9:17 pm, Zombie of Woodstock wrote:
On Sat, 7 Feb 2009 17:58:26 -0800 (PST),

wrote:
Just out of curiosity.. er. what's the fastest care you own? Could
it beeeeeeeeeeeeee a frekin' Cheby???

Ahem...um...er...

Yes. :)

Yes indeed....

Although technically, it's not a Chevy.

It's a Corvette.

Made by GM, but it's not a Chevy.

One Ford in the top ten?? I mean he's in first, but there are two laps
and he is surrounded by the enemy;)

It's a conspiracy by GM - all their Chevy drivers took out the Ford
drivers.

What's the matter - your Chevy drivers can't keep their cars straight?

Damn - my wife drives better than that.

--

"I intend to live forever. So far, so good."

Steven Wright

Jeff Gordon. *How can they not shake a flag at him for such bad driving.
Gets to the almost front and then slows down through the middle of the pack
causing carnage. *Then speeds up again. *Couple times.

NASCAR has a reputation of letting their "stars" get away with
anything. *DE paved the way with his "If you can't beat 'em, wreck
'em" driving style. *NASCAR sold their soul to GM years ago, and now
with the COT, it's just a joke.

Bring back Pearson and the Woods Brothers, and I'll watch again. *Race
on Sunday, sell on Monday. *:-)- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Yeah, if you want to see racin' like that, you have to go to your
local track on Friday Night, but it's still better than Basketball;)

I hear ya... growing up, I had two uncles that built and raced dirt
track cars. *One was in my home town, and my Dad did most of the
fabricating on his car. *While my Dad was (and is) a machinist by
trade, he was also a good bodyman and mechanic. *He'll be 82 this
June, and while he's slowed a bit, he's still doing well.

Here's a pic of one of my uncle's car:http://members.fortunecity.com/oldsprinter/skee14.jpg

He was pretty famous in the area, always placing in the top 3, and
winning most races. *Pretty cool... I hadn't thought about him in a
while. *He's been dead for about ten years now. *Great guy.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I used to spend almost every summer Saturday night in the pits
wrenching on my cousin's sprint car. Good times! Have to fight your
way out of the infield sometimes!

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On Mon, 9 Feb 2009 05:38:53 -0800 (PST), wrote:

Actually, teams are getting the new car dialed in nicely, and it's
making some damned good racing. What looks strange as all hell is the
way they've got those things crabbing to make them tighter. You see
them on the straight and it looks like the ass end is coming around!

You think?

Not to me - they are unstable as all hell and when you read what the
crew chiefs and drivers are saying "off the record" they hate the
freakin' car.

NASCAR designed a safe car - no doubt about it - but it drives like
crap and it's a constant battle to keep the thing on the track.

One of the SAE engineers I know that was marginally involved in the
project told me that NASCAR is requiring too much precision in the
manufacturing process which is stifling development.

When you watch the in-car cameras on the COT compared to the previous
model car, these things are jumping all over the place and have a
horrible tendency to suck up sideways in multi-car drafts. And you
never know if you are getting a push or are loose until it happens -
it constantly changes from lap-to-lap.

And, just listening to a comment on SPEED from Mike Wallace, the car
eats tires - none of the compounds they used to use are any good on
the new car and according to Zipendelli, the compounds were never
right last year because what looked to be the right choice from
previous testing turned out, in general, to be wrong for track
conditions on race day.

Plus, it's ugly and you can't tell, unless there is a really
distinctive paint job, which car is whose like you used to be able to.

It's going to kill NASCAR and quicker than you might expect.

--

When I want your opinion, I'll beat it out of you

Whoooo hooooo
 

On Feb 9, 8:53*am, Zombie of Woodstock wrote:
On Mon, 9 Feb 2009 05:38:53 -0800 (PST), wrote:
Actually, teams are getting the new car dialed in nicely, and it's
making some damned good racing. What looks strange as all hell is the
way they've got those things crabbing to make them tighter. You see
them on the straight and it looks like the ass end is coming around!

You think?

Not to me - they are unstable as all hell and when you read what the
crew chiefs and drivers are saying "off the record" they hate the
freakin' car.

NASCAR designed a safe car - no doubt about it - but it drives like
crap and it's a constant battle to keep the thing on the track.

One of the SAE engineers I know that was marginally involved in the
project told me that NASCAR is requiring too much precision in the
manufacturing process which is stifling development.

When you watch the in-car cameras on the COT compared to the previous
model car, these things are jumping all over the place and have a
horrible tendency to suck up sideways in multi-car drafts. *And you
never know if you are getting a push or are loose until it happens -
it constantly changes from lap-to-lap.

And, just listening to a comment on SPEED from Mike Wallace, the car
eats tires - none of the compounds they used to use are any good on
the new car and according to Zipendelli, the compounds were never
right last year because what looked to be the right choice from
previous testing turned out, in general, to be wrong for track
conditions on race day.

Plus, it's ugly and you can't tell, unless there is a really
distinctive paint job, which car is whose like you used to be able to.

It's going to kill NASCAR and quicker than you might expect.

--

When I want your opinion, I'll beat it out of you

Don't have a lot of time but the biggest problem with "parity" in
these cars and teams is 40 cars in the pack at the final laps.. I just
want to see a winner, not this green, white, checkered bull****...