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On Fri, 06 Feb 2009 07:45:04 -0600, Vic Smith
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Six bucks an hour, so I was back to my 1968 wages.

In 69 I was making two bucks an hour.

Casady

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Richard Casady wrote:
On Fri, 06 Feb 2009 07:45:04 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

Six bucks an hour, so I was back to my 1968 wages.

In 69 I was making two bucks an hour.

Casady


Crikey, I was making more than that in 1964 as a summertime towmotor
operator, welder, truck loader.

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On Feb 6, 11:36*am, HK wrote:
Richard Casady wrote:
On Fri, 06 Feb 2009 07:45:04 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

Six bucks an hour, so I was back to my 1968 wages.

In 69 I was making two bucks an hour.

Casady

Crikey, I was making more than that in 1964 as a summertime towmotor
operator, welder, truck loader.

Yeah right.. You do understand that nobody but Slammer, Salty, and
Donnie believe you right???

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On Feb 6, 12:02*pm, Jim7495632085 wrote:
wrote:
On Feb 6, 11:36 am, HK wrote:
Richard Casady wrote:
On Fri, 06 Feb 2009 07:45:04 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:
Six bucks an hour, so I was back to my 1968 wages.
In 69 I was making two bucks an hour.
Casady
Crikey,

Yeah right.. You do understand that nobody but Slammer, Salty, and
Donnie believe you right???

That's a new one. Has anyone kept track of the numerous summer jobs
Hacky Krause has claimed to have had?

About a thousand, I'm guessing? Here's something about his problem.
Note the part about being defensive to the point of intolerance.


There are many people that just can't stop lying. In order to avoid
the truth this path is chosen. A lie that is said for someone's
benefit is to cheat another. However there are some people that
always
lie, meaning that they are looked upon as liars for everything and
anything that they might say. Anyone who has the habit of lying
continuously is called as compulsive liar. It is a condition where a
person is just unable to speak the truth, even if he tries to put it
in a simple and truthful way there happens to be a point at which he
will be unable to continue with the harsh truths and in order to
avoid
this he will start it all again with lying.


Compulsive lying is also like an addiction just like sex, drugs,
smoking and so on. Just as a person requires help under all these
conditions, the situation is the same even with compulsive lying. Any
person can be a compulsive liar; your daughters, sons, husbands,
wife's, girlfriends, boyfriends etc. Instead of avoiding your
compulsive liar (friend or spouse) you can help them deal with this
disease just like you would do in case of a more evident addiction.


For this you don't have to directly approach them and tell them that
they are lying as this could hurt their feelings or make them
defensive. Instead opt for a way that would help them. Try showing
them that you know about the lies, but try and take it easy by
telling
them that you knew it was meant as a joke. Let the victim realize
that
there is a problem and help them. You can take the victim to
psychiatrist and expect a change in him/her.

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On Feb 6, 11:46*am, wrote:
On Feb 6, 11:36*am, HK wrote:

Richard Casady wrote:
On Fri, 06 Feb 2009 07:45:04 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

Six bucks an hour, so I was back to my 1968 wages.

In 69 I was making two bucks an hour.

Casady

Crikey, I was making more than that in 1964 as a summertime towmotor
operator, welder, truck loader.

Yeah right.. You do understand that nobody but Slammer, Salty, and
Donnie believe you right???

welder....Harry? BWAAAAHAAAAA!!!!! This from the guy that stated he
was too afraid to even take the "hood" off of his outboard motor
because of the new technology!!!!!

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On Feb 6, 9:05*am, HK wrote:
Vic Smith wrote:
On Thu, 05 Feb 2009 23:07:34 -0500, HK wrote:

February 6, 2009
Peanut Supplier Banned From Federal Business
By MICHAEL FALCONE
NY Times

WASHINGTON — The Agriculture Department on Thursday banned the company
implicated in the nationwide contamination of peanut products from doing
business with the federal government. At least eight people have died
and hundreds have been sickened after eating tainted products.

During the Great Reagan Era of Joblessness (we're hitting his
benchmarks now) I ended up running packaging machines at Cloud
Packaging in Skokie, Illinois. *This was 1983.
Main reason I could score that job was that I had previously been a
packaging machine mechanic, and Cloud had landed the Nutrasweet
contract from Searle, so they needed to gear up pretty quick.
Six bucks an hour, so I was back to my 1968 wages.
But work is work, and moths must be fed.
You might recall that saccharin had become a no-no, and Searle
developed Nutrasweet. *This is the place where the QC inspector
was a Reagan-fired ATC/Patco guy.
I'll take a second here to mention what a petty low down **** Reagan
was in never letting these guys go back to work in the trade they knew
and were trained for.
Retribution against defeated men, and kicking them when they're down
is as good a measure of a man's moral core as I know, and that's how I
measure Reagan.
Anyway, I packaged a lot of different items at Cloud, one being a beef
broth dry mix for the military. *Nitrogen was used to eliminate oxygen
during packaging.
There was *always* an FDA inspector overlooking that packaging.
Was he needed? *
I always felt it was a waste of fed money, but that's just how it was.
Seemed I was nearly always a step ahead of him in correcting something
that was off.
But maybe that's because he was there. *Still not sure, but when
there's a fed inspector watching, you are probably more careful.
This peanut thing is different, since even plant cleanliness comes
into play, and there is business/gov collusion involved.
I mentioned my wife is a corporate cook, and even though she is
naturally a clean freak, company and county officials do frequent
workplace inspections.
Part of the stimulus money should go to hire Fed FDA staff to ensure
food safety.
We also need more IRS auditors, who shortly pay for themselves.
Those auditors would have saved Obama some embarrassment.

--Vic

*From what I read, Georgia, like some other states, has a severe
shortaqe of inspectors and has had for some time. I wouldn't doubt the
collusion, especially in the south.

The Bush mis-administration never took federal food and drug inspections
seriously and in fact worked overtime to roll back standards and numbers
of inspectors. True also for OSHA in terms of inspectors and unannounced
inspections.

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Well then you read wrong. What really happened was that the place had
been regularly inspected by both the federal and state agencies. The
trouble is they are government lazy workers. They'd go in, find a
couple of minor violations, and leave. IF they had bothered to take
the time and look at the company's own books, they'd have seen where
they were sending out product tainted with salmonella and other
things. The company got away with it not because of lack of manpower,
but plain old not giving a ****. If it were a private company doing
the monitoring, and they were told that if this crap were to happen
that they'd be liable, I'll bet it would have been found. The
government and it's workers had NO incentive to do their job.

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On Fri, 06 Feb 2009 11:36:20 -0500, HK wrote:

Richard Casady wrote:
On Fri, 06 Feb 2009 07:45:04 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

Six bucks an hour, so I was back to my 1968 wages.

In 69 I was making two bucks an hour.

Casady


Crikey, I was making more than that in 1964 as a summertime towmotor
operator, welder, truck loader.

I was a phone dunner for a magazine subscription company. They
salesmen would go into the ghetto and sell welfare moms far more than
they could afford. When they didn't pay for the third month we cut off
their mags. We would call them and try to talk them into sending in
some dough. Lasted three months. I felt sorry for the deadbeats, with
good reason.

Casady