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The Old Religion
Sidney Lambe wrote:
First of all, the ordinary Wiccan is not a priest. The ordinary member of all religions are parishioners (or laypersons, etc.), they are not priests. Priests are members of the clergy. In every true religion they have to study for years to attain this status and office. To call every Wiccan a 'priest' is to render the term meaningless. It is a foolish and deceptive practice. Wicca claims to be the reincarnation of the Old Religion but it most certainly is not. Only the New Religions have gods and goddesses, and priests and priestesses (which are supposedly much more knowledgable than ordinary people and in close contact with the supposed gods and goddesses and can intervene with them on behalf of ordinary people). Only the New Religions assign magickal/creative power to supernatural beings exterior to the Self. Only the New Religions worship. Gerald Gardner didn't know anything about the Old Religion. He knew a little about a religion that was older than Christianity, but so is Judaism, by thousands of years. http://www.bcholmes.org/wicca/gardner.html The "Old Religion" wasn't even a religion. During that period of humanity's history, religion and science and culture were one and the same thing. People knew they were magickal beings living in a magickal universe, just as young children still know that today (as well as certain tiny cultures isolated from this one). They knew that they created their own realities with their beliefs/spells, individually and jointly, in cooperation with the rest of Nature. They knew that their existences, and the existence of everything, were Blessed. That all beings were Innocent. They knew that they were spiritual beings having and earthly experience. That Nature was supernatural. They did not worship anything, because worship is giving your power and worth away to something else. Wicca as stands is an artificial _New_ Religion, not the 'Old Religion' reincarnated. Sid -- AKA "Evergreen" a Wiccan Priest and Apprentice Magician http://tinyurl.com/7vs9zb usenet4444 (at) gmail (dot) com You people have to be ****ting me!! You're trolling right? |
The Old Religion
On Feb 3, 9:32*pm, Scarecrow wrote:
Sidney Lambe wrote: First of all, the ordinary Wiccan is not a priest. The ordinary member of all religions are parishioners (or laypersons, etc.), they are not priests. Priests are members of the clergy. In every true religion they have to study for years to attain this status and office. To call every Wiccan a 'priest' is to render the term meaningless. It is a foolish and deceptive practice. Wicca claims to be the reincarnation of the Old Religion but it most certainly is not. Only the New Religions have gods and goddesses, and priests and priestesses (which are supposedly much more knowledgable than ordinary people and in close contact with the supposed gods and goddesses and can intervene with them on behalf of ordinary people). Only the New Religions assign magickal/creative power to supernatural beings exterior to the Self. Only the New Religions worship. Gerald Gardner didn't know anything about the Old Religion. He knew a little about a religion that was older than Christianity, but so is Judaism, by thousands of years. http://www.bcholmes.org/wicca/gardner.html The "Old Religion" wasn't even a religion. During that period of humanity's history, religion and science and culture were one and the same thing. People knew they were magickal beings living in a magickal universe, just as young children still know that today (as well as certain tiny cultures isolated from this one). They knew that they created their own realities with their beliefs/spells, individually and jointly, in cooperation with the rest of Nature. They knew that their existences, and the existence of everything, were Blessed. That all beings were Innocent. They knew that they were spiritual beings having and earthly experience. That Nature was supernatural. They did not worship anything, because worship is giving your power and worth away to something else. Wicca as stands is an artificial _New_ Religion, not the 'Old Religion' reincarnated. Sid -- AKA "Evergreen" a Wiccan Priest and Apprentice Magician http://tinyurl.com/7vs9zb usenet4444 (at) gmail (dot) com You people have to be ****ting me!! *You're trolling right? Surely you're kidding. You cross-post this splooge to four different news groups and you call somebody else a troll? |
The Old Religion
Tim wrote:
On Feb 3, 9:32 pm, Scarecrow wrote: Sidney Lambe wrote: First of all, the ordinary Wiccan is not a priest. The ordinary member of all religions are parishioners (or laypersons, etc.), they are not priests. Priests are members of the clergy. In every true religion they have to study for years to attain this status and office. To call every Wiccan a 'priest' is to render the term meaningless. It is a foolish and deceptive practice. Wicca claims to be the reincarnation of the Old Religion but it most certainly is not. Only the New Religions have gods and goddesses, and priests and priestesses (which are supposedly much more knowledgable than ordinary people and in close contact with the supposed gods and goddesses and can intervene with them on behalf of ordinary people). Only the New Religions assign magickal/creative power to supernatural beings exterior to the Self. Only the New Religions worship. Gerald Gardner didn't know anything about the Old Religion. He knew a little about a religion that was older than Christianity, but so is Judaism, by thousands of years. http://www.bcholmes.org/wicca/gardner.html The "Old Religion" wasn't even a religion. During that period of humanity's history, religion and science and culture were one and the same thing. People knew they were magickal beings living in a magickal universe, just as young children still know that today (as well as certain tiny cultures isolated from this one). They knew that they created their own realities with their beliefs/spells, individually and jointly, in cooperation with the rest of Nature. They knew that their existences, and the existence of everything, were Blessed. That all beings were Innocent. They knew that they were spiritual beings having and earthly experience. That Nature was supernatural. They did not worship anything, because worship is giving your power and worth away to something else. Wicca as stands is an artificial _New_ Religion, not the 'Old Religion' reincarnated. Sid -- AKA "Evergreen" a Wiccan Priest and Apprentice Magician http://tinyurl.com/7vs9zb usenet4444 (at) gmail (dot) com You people have to be ****ting me!! You're trolling right? Surely you're kidding. You cross-post this splooge to four different news groups and you call somebody else a troll? You are knocking someone else's religious beliefs? |
The Old Religion
On Feb 3, 9:53*pm, HK wrote:
Tim wrote: On Feb 3, 9:32 pm, Scarecrow wrote: Sidney Lambe wrote: First of all, the ordinary Wiccan is not a priest. The ordinary member of all religions are parishioners (or laypersons, etc.), they are not priests. Priests are members of the clergy. In every true religion they have to study for years to attain this status and office. To call every Wiccan a 'priest' is to render the term meaningless. It is a foolish and deceptive practice. Wicca claims to be the reincarnation of the Old Religion but it most certainly is not. Only the New Religions have gods and goddesses, and priests and priestesses (which are supposedly much more knowledgable than ordinary people and in close contact with the supposed gods and goddesses and can intervene with them on behalf of ordinary people). Only the New Religions assign magickal/creative power to supernatural beings exterior to the Self. Only the New Religions worship. Gerald Gardner didn't know anything about the Old Religion. He knew a little about a religion that was older than Christianity, but so is Judaism, by thousands of years. http://www.bcholmes.org/wicca/gardner.html The "Old Religion" wasn't even a religion. During that period of humanity's history, religion and science and culture were one and the same thing. People knew they were magickal beings living in a magickal universe, just as young children still know that today (as well as certain tiny cultures isolated from this one). They knew that they created their own realities with their beliefs/spells, individually and jointly, in cooperation with the rest of Nature. They knew that their existences, and the existence of everything, were Blessed. That all beings were Innocent. They knew that they were spiritual beings having and earthly experience. That Nature was supernatural. They did not worship anything, because worship is giving your power and worth away to something else. Wicca as stands is an artificial _New_ Religion, not the 'Old Religion' reincarnated. Sid -- AKA "Evergreen" a Wiccan Priest and Apprentice Magician http://tinyurl.com/7vs9zb usenet4444 (at) gmail (dot) com You people have to be ****ting me!! *You're trolling right? Surely you're kidding. You cross-post this *splooge to four *different news groups and you call somebody else a troll? You are knocking someone else's religious beliefs? you defending a cross-posting troll? |
The Old Religion
Tim wrote:
On Feb 3, 9:53 pm, HK wrote: Tim wrote: usenet4444 (at) gmail (dot) com You people have to be ****ting me!! You're trolling right? Surely you're kidding. You cross-post this splooge to four different news groups and you call somebody else a troll? You are knocking someone else's religious beliefs? you defending a cross-posting troll? This joint is filled with useless trolls like JustHate, Loogy, Herring, DK, et cetera. You think crossposters are a lower life form? At least some of them can write complete sentences, eh? |
The Old Religion
On Feb 3, 10:03*pm, HK wrote:
Tim wrote: On Feb 3, 9:53 pm, HK wrote: Tim wrote: usenet4444 (at) gmail (dot) com You people have to be ****ting me!! *You're trolling right? Surely you're kidding. You cross-post this *splooge to four *different news groups and you call somebody else a troll? You are knocking someone else's religious beliefs? you defending a cross-posting troll? This joint is filled with useless trolls like JustHate, Loogy, Herring, DK, et cetera. You think crossposters are a lower life form? At least some of them can write complete sentences, eh? I take it that it is very important to you for one to write complete sentences or questions? |
The Old Religion
On Feb 3, 10:03*pm, HK wrote:
Tim wrote: On Feb 3, 9:53 pm, HK wrote: Tim wrote: usenet4444 (at) gmail (dot) com You people have to be ****ting me!! *You're trolling right? Surely you're kidding. You cross-post this *splooge to four *different news groups and you call somebody else a troll? You are knocking someone else's religious beliefs? you defending a cross-posting troll? This joint is filled with useless trolls like JustHate, Loogy, Herring, DK, et cetera. You think crossposters are a lower life form? At least some of them can write complete sentences, eh? how about using the proper punctuation amrks? That's something that the OP didn't use. If you'll notice the phrase: "You're trolling right?" Harry, should there not have been a comma between the words "Trolling" and "right?" You're a verbal nit-picker, Harry. |
The Old Religion
On Feb 3, 10:53*pm, HK wrote:
Tim wrote: On Feb 3, 9:32 pm, Scarecrow wrote: Sidney Lambe wrote: First of all, the ordinary Wiccan is not a priest. The ordinary member of all religions are parishioners (or laypersons, etc.), they are not priests. Priests are members of the clergy. In every true religion they have to study for years to attain this status and office. To call every Wiccan a 'priest' is to render the term meaningless. It is a foolish and deceptive practice. Wicca claims to be the reincarnation of the Old Religion but it most certainly is not. Only the New Religions have gods and goddesses, and priests and priestesses (which are supposedly much more knowledgable than ordinary people and in close contact with the supposed gods and goddesses and can intervene with them on behalf of ordinary people). Only the New Religions assign magickal/creative power to supernatural beings exterior to the Self. Only the New Religions worship. Gerald Gardner didn't know anything about the Old Religion. He knew a little about a religion that was older than Christianity, but so is Judaism, by thousands of years. http://www.bcholmes.org/wicca/gardner.html The "Old Religion" wasn't even a religion. During that period of humanity's history, religion and science and culture were one and the same thing. People knew they were magickal beings living in a magickal universe, just as young children still know that today (as well as certain tiny cultures isolated from this one). They knew that they created their own realities with their beliefs/spells, individually and jointly, in cooperation with the rest of Nature. They knew that their existences, and the existence of everything, were Blessed. That all beings were Innocent. They knew that they were spiritual beings having and earthly experience. That Nature was supernatural. They did not worship anything, because worship is giving your power and worth away to something else. Wicca as stands is an artificial _New_ Religion, not the 'Old Religion' reincarnated. Sid -- AKA "Evergreen" a Wiccan Priest and Apprentice Magician http://tinyurl.com/7vs9zb usenet4444 (at) gmail (dot) com You people have to be ****ting me!! *You're trolling right? Surely you're kidding. You cross-post this *splooge to four *different news groups and you call somebody else a troll? You are knocking someone else's religious beliefs? Cross-posting is a religious belief? |
The Old Religion
Tim wrote:
On Feb 3, 10:03 pm, HK wrote: Tim wrote: On Feb 3, 9:53 pm, HK wrote: Tim wrote: usenet4444 (at) gmail (dot) com You people have to be ****ting me!! You're trolling right? Surely you're kidding. You cross-post this splooge to four different news groups and you call somebody else a troll? You are knocking someone else's religious beliefs? you defending a cross-posting troll? This joint is filled with useless trolls like JustHate, Loogy, Herring, DK, et cetera. You think crossposters are a lower life form? At least some of them can write complete sentences, eh? I take it that it is very important to you for one to write complete sentences or questions? I think it important that one be able to use the mother tongue correctly. I also find nothing wrong with relaxing the rules and being informal. There are posters here, however, whose language skills are so poor they constantly misinterpret what they read. |
The Old Religion
On Feb 3, 10:32*pm, Scarecrow wrote:
Sidney Lambe wrote: First of all, the ordinary Wiccan is not a priest. The ordinary member of all religions are parishioners (or laypersons, etc.), they are not priests. Priests are members of the clergy. In every true religion they have to study for years to attain this status and office. To call every Wiccan a 'priest' is to render the term meaningless. It is a foolish and deceptive practice. Wicca claims to be the reincarnation of the Old Religion but it most certainly is not. Only the New Religions have gods and goddesses, and priests and priestesses (which are supposedly much more knowledgable than ordinary people and in close contact with the supposed gods and goddesses and can intervene with them on behalf of ordinary people). Only the New Religions assign magickal/creative power to supernatural beings exterior to the Self. Only the New Religions worship. Gerald Gardner didn't know anything about the Old Religion. He knew a little about a religion that was older than Christianity, but so is Judaism, by thousands of years. http://www.bcholmes.org/wicca/gardner.html The "Old Religion" wasn't even a religion. During that period of humanity's history, religion and science and culture were one and the same thing. People knew they were magickal beings living in a magickal universe, just as young children still know that today (as well as certain tiny cultures isolated from this one). They knew that they created their own realities with their beliefs/spells, individually and jointly, in cooperation with the rest of Nature. They knew that their existences, and the existence of everything, were Blessed. That all beings were Innocent. They knew that they were spiritual beings having and earthly experience. That Nature was supernatural. They did not worship anything, because worship is giving your power and worth away to something else. Wicca as stands is an artificial _New_ Religion, not the 'Old Religion' reincarnated. Sid -- AKA "Evergreen" a Wiccan Priest and Apprentice Magician http://tinyurl.com/7vs9zb usenet4444 (at) gmail (dot) com You people have to be ****ting me!! *You're trolling right?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Hope this isn't the cross-posting asshole that hung around alt elvis king......... |
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