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Scarecrow February 4th 09 03:32 AM

The Old Religion
 
Sidney Lambe wrote:
First of all, the ordinary Wiccan is not a priest. The ordinary
member of all religions are parishioners (or laypersons, etc.),
they are not priests. Priests are members of the clergy. In every
true religion they have to study for years to attain this status
and office.

To call every Wiccan a 'priest' is to render the term
meaningless. It is a foolish and deceptive practice.

Wicca claims to be the reincarnation of the Old Religion but it
most certainly is not.

Only the New Religions have gods and goddesses, and priests and
priestesses (which are supposedly much more knowledgable than
ordinary people and in close contact with the supposed gods and
goddesses and can intervene with them on behalf of ordinary
people). Only the New Religions assign magickal/creative power to
supernatural beings exterior to the Self. Only the New Religions
worship.

Gerald Gardner didn't know anything about the Old Religion. He
knew a little about a religion that was older than Christianity,
but so is Judaism, by thousands of years.

http://www.bcholmes.org/wicca/gardner.html

The "Old Religion" wasn't even a religion. During that period of
humanity's history, religion and science and culture were one and
the same thing.

People knew they were magickal beings living in a magickal
universe, just as young children still know that today (as well
as certain tiny cultures isolated from this one).

They knew that they created their own realities with their
beliefs/spells, individually and jointly, in cooperation with
the rest of Nature. They knew that their existences, and the
existence of everything, were Blessed. That all beings were
Innocent. They knew that they were spiritual beings having and
earthly experience. That Nature was supernatural. They did not
worship anything, because worship is giving your power and worth
away to something else.

Wicca as stands is an artificial _New_ Religion, not the 'Old
Religion' reincarnated.


Sid

--
AKA "Evergreen" a Wiccan Priest
and Apprentice Magician
http://tinyurl.com/7vs9zb
usenet4444 (at) gmail (dot) com



You people have to be ****ting me!! You're trolling right?

Tim February 4th 09 03:36 AM

The Old Religion
 
On Feb 3, 9:32*pm, Scarecrow wrote:
Sidney Lambe wrote:
First of all, the ordinary Wiccan is not a priest. The ordinary
member of all religions are parishioners (or laypersons, etc.),
they are not priests. Priests are members of the clergy. In every
true religion they have to study for years to attain this status
and office.


To call every Wiccan a 'priest' is to render the term
meaningless. It is a foolish and deceptive practice.


Wicca claims to be the reincarnation of the Old Religion but it
most certainly is not.


Only the New Religions have gods and goddesses, and priests and
priestesses (which are supposedly much more knowledgable than
ordinary people and in close contact with the supposed gods and
goddesses and can intervene with them on behalf of ordinary
people). Only the New Religions assign magickal/creative power to
supernatural beings exterior to the Self. Only the New Religions
worship.


Gerald Gardner didn't know anything about the Old Religion. He
knew a little about a religion that was older than Christianity,
but so is Judaism, by thousands of years.


http://www.bcholmes.org/wicca/gardner.html


The "Old Religion" wasn't even a religion. During that period of
humanity's history, religion and science and culture were one and
the same thing.


People knew they were magickal beings living in a magickal
universe, just as young children still know that today (as well
as certain tiny cultures isolated from this one).


They knew that they created their own realities with their
beliefs/spells, individually and jointly, in cooperation with
the rest of Nature. They knew that their existences, and the
existence of everything, were Blessed. That all beings were
Innocent. They knew that they were spiritual beings having and
earthly experience. That Nature was supernatural. They did not
worship anything, because worship is giving your power and worth
away to something else.


Wicca as stands is an artificial _New_ Religion, not the 'Old
Religion' reincarnated.


Sid


--
AKA "Evergreen" a Wiccan Priest
and Apprentice Magician
http://tinyurl.com/7vs9zb
usenet4444 (at) gmail (dot) com


You people have to be ****ting me!! *You're trolling right?


Surely you're kidding. You cross-post this splooge to four different
news groups and you call somebody else a troll?

HK February 4th 09 03:53 AM

The Old Religion
 
Tim wrote:
On Feb 3, 9:32 pm, Scarecrow wrote:
Sidney Lambe wrote:
First of all, the ordinary Wiccan is not a priest. The ordinary
member of all religions are parishioners (or laypersons, etc.),
they are not priests. Priests are members of the clergy. In every
true religion they have to study for years to attain this status
and office.
To call every Wiccan a 'priest' is to render the term
meaningless. It is a foolish and deceptive practice.
Wicca claims to be the reincarnation of the Old Religion but it
most certainly is not.
Only the New Religions have gods and goddesses, and priests and
priestesses (which are supposedly much more knowledgable than
ordinary people and in close contact with the supposed gods and
goddesses and can intervene with them on behalf of ordinary
people). Only the New Religions assign magickal/creative power to
supernatural beings exterior to the Self. Only the New Religions
worship.
Gerald Gardner didn't know anything about the Old Religion. He
knew a little about a religion that was older than Christianity,
but so is Judaism, by thousands of years.
http://www.bcholmes.org/wicca/gardner.html
The "Old Religion" wasn't even a religion. During that period of
humanity's history, religion and science and culture were one and
the same thing.
People knew they were magickal beings living in a magickal
universe, just as young children still know that today (as well
as certain tiny cultures isolated from this one).
They knew that they created their own realities with their
beliefs/spells, individually and jointly, in cooperation with
the rest of Nature. They knew that their existences, and the
existence of everything, were Blessed. That all beings were
Innocent. They knew that they were spiritual beings having and
earthly experience. That Nature was supernatural. They did not
worship anything, because worship is giving your power and worth
away to something else.
Wicca as stands is an artificial _New_ Religion, not the 'Old
Religion' reincarnated.
Sid
--
AKA "Evergreen" a Wiccan Priest
and Apprentice Magician
http://tinyurl.com/7vs9zb
usenet4444 (at) gmail (dot) com

You people have to be ****ting me!! You're trolling right?


Surely you're kidding. You cross-post this splooge to four different
news groups and you call somebody else a troll?



You are knocking someone else's religious beliefs?

Tim February 4th 09 04:01 AM

The Old Religion
 
On Feb 3, 9:53*pm, HK wrote:
Tim wrote:
On Feb 3, 9:32 pm, Scarecrow wrote:
Sidney Lambe wrote:
First of all, the ordinary Wiccan is not a priest. The ordinary
member of all religions are parishioners (or laypersons, etc.),
they are not priests. Priests are members of the clergy. In every
true religion they have to study for years to attain this status
and office.
To call every Wiccan a 'priest' is to render the term
meaningless. It is a foolish and deceptive practice.
Wicca claims to be the reincarnation of the Old Religion but it
most certainly is not.
Only the New Religions have gods and goddesses, and priests and
priestesses (which are supposedly much more knowledgable than
ordinary people and in close contact with the supposed gods and
goddesses and can intervene with them on behalf of ordinary
people). Only the New Religions assign magickal/creative power to
supernatural beings exterior to the Self. Only the New Religions
worship.
Gerald Gardner didn't know anything about the Old Religion. He
knew a little about a religion that was older than Christianity,
but so is Judaism, by thousands of years.
http://www.bcholmes.org/wicca/gardner.html
The "Old Religion" wasn't even a religion. During that period of
humanity's history, religion and science and culture were one and
the same thing.
People knew they were magickal beings living in a magickal
universe, just as young children still know that today (as well
as certain tiny cultures isolated from this one).
They knew that they created their own realities with their
beliefs/spells, individually and jointly, in cooperation with
the rest of Nature. They knew that their existences, and the
existence of everything, were Blessed. That all beings were
Innocent. They knew that they were spiritual beings having and
earthly experience. That Nature was supernatural. They did not
worship anything, because worship is giving your power and worth
away to something else.
Wicca as stands is an artificial _New_ Religion, not the 'Old
Religion' reincarnated.
Sid
--
AKA "Evergreen" a Wiccan Priest
and Apprentice Magician
http://tinyurl.com/7vs9zb
usenet4444 (at) gmail (dot) com
You people have to be ****ting me!! *You're trolling right?


Surely you're kidding. You cross-post this *splooge to four *different
news groups and you call somebody else a troll?


You are knocking someone else's religious beliefs?


you defending a cross-posting troll?

HK February 4th 09 04:03 AM

The Old Religion
 
Tim wrote:
On Feb 3, 9:53 pm, HK wrote:
Tim wrote:


usenet4444 (at) gmail (dot) com
You people have to be ****ting me!! You're trolling right?
Surely you're kidding. You cross-post this splooge to four different
news groups and you call somebody else a troll?

You are knocking someone else's religious beliefs?


you defending a cross-posting troll?



This joint is filled with useless trolls like JustHate, Loogy, Herring,
DK, et cetera. You think crossposters are a lower life form? At least
some of them can write complete sentences, eh?


Tim February 4th 09 04:05 AM

The Old Religion
 
On Feb 3, 10:03*pm, HK wrote:
Tim wrote:
On Feb 3, 9:53 pm, HK wrote:
Tim wrote:


usenet4444 (at) gmail (dot) com
You people have to be ****ting me!! *You're trolling right?
Surely you're kidding. You cross-post this *splooge to four *different
news groups and you call somebody else a troll?
You are knocking someone else's religious beliefs?


you defending a cross-posting troll?


This joint is filled with useless trolls like JustHate, Loogy, Herring,
DK, et cetera. You think crossposters are a lower life form? At least
some of them can write complete sentences, eh?


I take it that it is very important to you for one to write complete
sentences or questions?

Tim February 4th 09 04:08 AM

The Old Religion
 
On Feb 3, 10:03*pm, HK wrote:
Tim wrote:
On Feb 3, 9:53 pm, HK wrote:
Tim wrote:


usenet4444 (at) gmail (dot) com
You people have to be ****ting me!! *You're trolling right?
Surely you're kidding. You cross-post this *splooge to four *different
news groups and you call somebody else a troll?
You are knocking someone else's religious beliefs?


you defending a cross-posting troll?


This joint is filled with useless trolls like JustHate, Loogy, Herring,
DK, et cetera. You think crossposters are a lower life form? At least
some of them can write complete sentences, eh?



how about using the proper punctuation amrks?

That's something that the OP didn't use. If you'll notice the phrase:
"You're trolling right?"

Harry, should there not have been a comma between the words "Trolling"
and "right?"

You're a verbal nit-picker, Harry.

[email protected] February 4th 09 04:21 AM

The Old Religion
 
On Feb 3, 10:53*pm, HK wrote:
Tim wrote:
On Feb 3, 9:32 pm, Scarecrow wrote:
Sidney Lambe wrote:
First of all, the ordinary Wiccan is not a priest. The ordinary
member of all religions are parishioners (or laypersons, etc.),
they are not priests. Priests are members of the clergy. In every
true religion they have to study for years to attain this status
and office.
To call every Wiccan a 'priest' is to render the term
meaningless. It is a foolish and deceptive practice.
Wicca claims to be the reincarnation of the Old Religion but it
most certainly is not.
Only the New Religions have gods and goddesses, and priests and
priestesses (which are supposedly much more knowledgable than
ordinary people and in close contact with the supposed gods and
goddesses and can intervene with them on behalf of ordinary
people). Only the New Religions assign magickal/creative power to
supernatural beings exterior to the Self. Only the New Religions
worship.
Gerald Gardner didn't know anything about the Old Religion. He
knew a little about a religion that was older than Christianity,
but so is Judaism, by thousands of years.
http://www.bcholmes.org/wicca/gardner.html
The "Old Religion" wasn't even a religion. During that period of
humanity's history, religion and science and culture were one and
the same thing.
People knew they were magickal beings living in a magickal
universe, just as young children still know that today (as well
as certain tiny cultures isolated from this one).
They knew that they created their own realities with their
beliefs/spells, individually and jointly, in cooperation with
the rest of Nature. They knew that their existences, and the
existence of everything, were Blessed. That all beings were
Innocent. They knew that they were spiritual beings having and
earthly experience. That Nature was supernatural. They did not
worship anything, because worship is giving your power and worth
away to something else.
Wicca as stands is an artificial _New_ Religion, not the 'Old
Religion' reincarnated.
Sid
--
AKA "Evergreen" a Wiccan Priest
and Apprentice Magician
http://tinyurl.com/7vs9zb
usenet4444 (at) gmail (dot) com
You people have to be ****ting me!! *You're trolling right?


Surely you're kidding. You cross-post this *splooge to four *different
news groups and you call somebody else a troll?


You are knocking someone else's religious beliefs?


Cross-posting is a religious belief?


HK February 4th 09 04:33 AM

The Old Religion
 
Tim wrote:
On Feb 3, 10:03 pm, HK wrote:
Tim wrote:
On Feb 3, 9:53 pm, HK wrote:
Tim wrote:
usenet4444 (at) gmail (dot) com
You people have to be ****ting me!! You're trolling right?
Surely you're kidding. You cross-post this splooge to four different
news groups and you call somebody else a troll?
You are knocking someone else's religious beliefs?
you defending a cross-posting troll?

This joint is filled with useless trolls like JustHate, Loogy, Herring,
DK, et cetera. You think crossposters are a lower life form? At least
some of them can write complete sentences, eh?


I take it that it is very important to you for one to write complete
sentences or questions?



I think it important that one be able to use the mother tongue
correctly. I also find nothing wrong with relaxing the rules and being
informal. There are posters here, however, whose language skills are so
poor they constantly misinterpret what they read.


[email protected] February 4th 09 06:46 AM

The Old Religion
 
On Feb 3, 10:32*pm, Scarecrow wrote:
Sidney Lambe wrote:
First of all, the ordinary Wiccan is not a priest. The ordinary
member of all religions are parishioners (or laypersons, etc.),
they are not priests. Priests are members of the clergy. In every
true religion they have to study for years to attain this status
and office.


To call every Wiccan a 'priest' is to render the term
meaningless. It is a foolish and deceptive practice.


Wicca claims to be the reincarnation of the Old Religion but it
most certainly is not.


Only the New Religions have gods and goddesses, and priests and
priestesses (which are supposedly much more knowledgable than
ordinary people and in close contact with the supposed gods and
goddesses and can intervene with them on behalf of ordinary
people). Only the New Religions assign magickal/creative power to
supernatural beings exterior to the Self. Only the New Religions
worship.


Gerald Gardner didn't know anything about the Old Religion. He
knew a little about a religion that was older than Christianity,
but so is Judaism, by thousands of years.


http://www.bcholmes.org/wicca/gardner.html


The "Old Religion" wasn't even a religion. During that period of
humanity's history, religion and science and culture were one and
the same thing.


People knew they were magickal beings living in a magickal
universe, just as young children still know that today (as well
as certain tiny cultures isolated from this one).


They knew that they created their own realities with their
beliefs/spells, individually and jointly, in cooperation with
the rest of Nature. They knew that their existences, and the
existence of everything, were Blessed. That all beings were
Innocent. They knew that they were spiritual beings having and
earthly experience. That Nature was supernatural. They did not
worship anything, because worship is giving your power and worth
away to something else.


Wicca as stands is an artificial _New_ Religion, not the 'Old
Religion' reincarnated.


Sid


--
AKA "Evergreen" a Wiccan Priest
and Apprentice Magician
http://tinyurl.com/7vs9zb
usenet4444 (at) gmail (dot) com


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Hope this isn't the cross-posting asshole that hung around alt elvis
king.........


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