Stimulus spending, tax cuts, what moronic ideas. Govt should stop
trying to help and just go away. They caused the problems. The
idiocy of the stimulus crap is that it will just go to political
cronies providing almost no jobs and plenty of debt for our children.
Tax cuts for small business, Pleeeeeeeeze, every Tom Dick and Harry
will incorporate and large businesses will lobby to be allowed to be
"small".
What we really need is for govt to reduce the amount of work Small
Business spends on govt crap. Whenever they come up with some small
new regulation, it mushrooms into huge amounts of work for small
business to keep track of. Leave us the fu$% alone and stop trying to
help us and stop overregulating everything.
Some damned govt fool was giving me grief last week for not having the
latest copy of a workers comp poster although it the same as for the
past 10 yrs. Dealing with that fool prob cost me hundreds of dollars.

Frogwatch wrote:
Stimulus spending, tax cuts, what moronic ideas. Govt should stop
trying to help and just go away. They caused the problems. The
idiocy of the stimulus crap is that it will just go to political
cronies providing almost no jobs and plenty of debt for our children.
Tax cuts for small business, Pleeeeeeeeze, every Tom Dick and Harry
will incorporate and large businesses will lobby to be allowed to be
"small".
What we really need is for govt to reduce the amount of work Small
Business spends on govt crap. Whenever they come up with some small
new regulation, it mushrooms into huge amounts of work for small
business to keep track of. Leave us the fu$% alone and stop trying to
help us and stop overregulating everything.
Some damned govt fool was giving me grief last week for not having the
latest copy of a workers comp poster although it the same as for the
past 10 yrs. Dealing with that fool prob cost me hundreds of dollars.

Big Business controls Government. Most of them are not American
businesses either. They are global. they are predatory. They have
manuevered our? Legislature and Government into obtaining the largest
welfare check ever written. They stole, swindled, and gambled themselves
into debt.
We the Citizens of the US have been placed into debt that we and our
children will have to pay in, inflation, devaluation, and higher and
more taxes and fees, to replace their losses.
This is Supply side or more appropriately Supplier or Merchant run
Government and economy. They have changed or eliminated Citizen/Consumer
protection Laws and write unilateral contracts. They have limited or
eliminate access to our Courts and Laws.
Everything globalist Wall Street has touched has turned to crap, for
their profits and to the peril and suffering of the citizens and our
Republic.

On Fri, 23 Jan 2009 21:33:51 -0500, nada wrote:

Frogwatch wrote:
Stimulus spending, tax cuts, what moronic ideas. Govt should stop
trying to help and just go away. They caused the problems. The
idiocy of the stimulus crap is that it will just go to political
cronies providing almost no jobs and plenty of debt for our children.
Tax cuts for small business, Pleeeeeeeeze, every Tom Dick and Harry
will incorporate and large businesses will lobby to be allowed to be
"small".
What we really need is for govt to reduce the amount of work Small
Business spends on govt crap. Whenever they come up with some small
new regulation, it mushrooms into huge amounts of work for small
business to keep track of. Leave us the fu$% alone and stop trying to
help us and stop overregulating everything.
Some damned govt fool was giving me grief last week for not having the
latest copy of a workers comp poster although it the same as for the
past 10 yrs. Dealing with that fool prob cost me hundreds of dollars.

Big Business controls Government. Most of them are not American
businesses either. They are global. they are predatory. They have
manuevered our? Legislature and Government into obtaining the largest
welfare check ever written. They stole, swindled, and gambled themselves
into debt.
We the Citizens of the US have been placed into debt that we and our
children will have to pay in, inflation, devaluation, and higher and
more taxes and fees, to replace their losses.
This is Supply side or more appropriately Supplier or Merchant run
Government and economy. They have changed or eliminated Citizen/Consumer
protection Laws and write unilateral contracts. They have limited or
eliminate access to our Courts and Laws.
Everything globalist Wall Street has touched has turned to crap, for
their profits and to the peril and suffering of the citizens and our
Republic.

And, the people who run these entities don't give a crap. The next
quarter's performance or their annual income is all that matters.

Affluenza has infected them all.

Earning a living wage is down the drain. It's a rush to find the
cheapest labor, cheapest materials, least expensive transportation.

Rollerball, albeit dated, was a great approximation of what the world
would be like if corporations ruled.

We're about 90% of the way there. Our republic doesn't matter
anymore. It's expendible apart from the military technology.

jps wrote:

Earning a living wage is down the drain. It's a rush to find the
cheapest labor, cheapest materials, least expensive transportation.

When you go to the store do you buy the 50 cent cup of coffee or do you
buy the $5 cup of coffee. The $5 cup of coffee provides the employees
with a living wage?

On Fri, 23 Jan 2009 23:12:42 -0500, BAR wrote:

jps wrote:

Earning a living wage is down the drain. It's a rush to find the
cheapest labor, cheapest materials, least expensive transportation.

When you go to the store do you buy the 50 cent cup of coffee or do you
buy the $5 cup of coffee. The $5 cup of coffee provides the employees
with a living wage?

When I go to the store, I look for what made in America. If it's not
twice as much I buy it.

Money, mouth.

On Jan 23, 11:21*pm, jps wrote:
On Fri, 23 Jan 2009 23:12:42 -0500, BAR wrote:
jps wrote:

Earning a living wage is down the drain. *It's a rush to find the
cheapest labor, cheapest materials, least expensive transportation.

When you go to the store do you buy the 50 cent cup of coffee or do you
buy the $5 cup of coffee. The $5 cup of coffee provides the employees
with a living wage?

When I go to the store, I look for what made in America. *If it's not
twice as much I buy it.

Money, mouth.

Pfffttt.. right... What was the last American made product you bought
in lieu of a foreign product? Or are you just making it up.... uh,
forget it... snerk

On Fri, 23 Jan 2009 17:50:39 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch
wrote:

Stimulus spending, tax cuts, what moronic ideas. Govt should stop
trying to help and just go away. They caused the problems. The
idiocy of the stimulus crap is that it will just go to political
cronies providing almost no jobs and plenty of debt for our children.
Tax cuts for small business, Pleeeeeeeeze, every Tom Dick and Harry
will incorporate and large businesses will lobby to be allowed to be
"small".
What we really need is for govt to reduce the amount of work Small
Business spends on govt crap. Whenever they come up with some small
new regulation, it mushrooms into huge amounts of work for small
business to keep track of. Leave us the fu$% alone and stop trying to
help us and stop overregulating everything.
Some damned govt fool was giving me grief last week for not having the
latest copy of a workers comp poster although it the same as for the
past 10 yrs. Dealing with that fool prob cost me hundreds of dollars.

Assuming you own a small business, other than people, what's your
biggest expense?

Do you offer medical or dental insurance?

What % of expense does Gov't crap represent?

When you say it costs you, are you talking about the expense of
compliance, taxes, fees?

Do you have to deal with state and local taxes, fees too? What do you
propose happens to city/state assuming you're talking about the feds.

Compliance is a bitch for sure, but medical insurance has become a
giant line item for me. Avg. $12 - 14K per person annually, less
employee participation which varies. Employees still have big
deductibles, co-pays, limits to coverage.

On Jan 23, 8:50*pm, Frogwatch wrote:
Stimulus spending, tax cuts, what moronic ideas. *Govt should stop
trying to help and just go away. *They caused the problems. *The
idiocy of the stimulus crap is that it will just go to political
cronies providing almost no jobs and plenty of debt for our children.
Tax cuts for small business, Pleeeeeeeeze, every Tom Dick and Harry
will incorporate and large businesses will lobby to be allowed to be
"small".
What we really need is for govt to reduce the amount of work Small
Business spends on govt crap. *Whenever they come up with some small
new regulation, it mushrooms into huge amounts of work for small
business to keep track of. *Leave us the fu$% alone and stop trying to
help us and stop overregulating everything.
Some damned govt fool was giving me grief last week for not having the
latest copy of a workers comp poster although it the same as for the
past 10 yrs. *Dealing with that fool prob cost me hundreds of dollars.

Boating content= Zip.
Posters whiny count =10 out of 10

On Fri, 23 Jan 2009 17:50:39 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch
wrote:

Not commenting on anything else, but "The Audacity of Dopes"
is a nice turn of phrase. Yours?
If so, good one!

--Vic

On Jan 23, 8:50*pm, Frogwatch wrote:
Stimulus spending, tax cuts, what moronic ideas. *Govt should stop
trying to help and just go away. *They caused the problems. *The
idiocy of the stimulus crap is that it will just go to political
cronies providing almost no jobs and plenty of debt for our children.
Tax cuts for small business, Pleeeeeeeeze, every Tom Dick and Harry
will incorporate and large businesses will lobby to be allowed to be
"small".
What we really need is for govt to reduce the amount of work Small
Business spends on govt crap. *Whenever they come up with some small
new regulation, it mushrooms into huge amounts of work for small
business to keep track of. *Leave us the fu$% alone and stop trying to
help us and stop overregulating everything.
Some damned govt fool was giving me grief last week for not having the
latest copy of a workers comp poster although it the same as for the
past 10 yrs. *Dealing with that fool prob cost me hundreds of dollars.

Stocks are up today, is that Obama's fault too? It's amazing that a
person thinks that a president who's been in office 3 days can affect
the stock market!!!!!