The Audacity of Dopes
 

On Sun, 25 Jan 2009 08:18:59 -0500, BAR wrote:

jps wrote:
On Sat, 24 Jan 2009 13:25:04 -0500, BAR wrote:

jps wrote:
On Fri, 23 Jan 2009 21:17:51 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

On Jan 24, 12:15 am, jps wrote:
On Fri, 23 Jan 2009 21:04:00 -0800 (PST),





wrote:
On Jan 23, 11:21 pm, jps wrote:
On Fri, 23 Jan 2009 23:12:42 -0500, BAR wrote:
jps wrote:
Earning a living wage is down the drain. It's a rush to find the
cheapest labor, cheapest materials, least expensive transportation.
When you go to the store do you buy the 50 cent cup of coffee or do you
buy the $5 cup of coffee. The $5 cup of coffee provides the employees
with a living wage?
When I go to the store, I look for what made in America. If it's not
twice as much I buy it.
Money, mouth.
Pfffttt.. right... What was the last American made product you bought
in lieu of a foreign product? Or are you just making it up.... uh,
forget it... snerk
You're a ****ing idiot.

I was in a Sears and Home Depot the other day looking for tools for
our assembly bench and saw nothing but **** from China and Taiwan.

I went to a small tool reseller the following day and bought tools
made in America and Germany.

Money, mouth, asshole.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
Sure you did... What tools, what manufacturer? Or are you just making
it up like most everything you say here?
Don't need your approval. I'm quite satisfied with what I found.
Forged and finished well with a good feel in the hand and precise
movement.

Let's get back to you and Ann Coulter. Tell me what you'd like to do
with her if she were naked in your pram.
Ann Coulter tears up liberals, progressives and lefties.

She a professional prevaricator who sells trash for money.

Have you read any of her books?

He's already said he read some excerpts. In other words, "No".

He does a good Whoopi imitation, however.
--
John H

* Some people are alive only because it's illegal to kill them. *

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On Sun, 25 Jan 2009 08:33:05 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

Cleland picked up the grenade
because he thought it was his, and he always bent the pins so they would
not go off accidentally.

Not so. Grenade fuses leave the factory with the pins bent, and they
are so difficult to withdraw that some would straighten the pins and
carry them that way.

Casady

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On Sat, 24 Jan 2009 17:29:59 -0800, jps wrote:

On Sat, 24 Jan 2009 13:20:13 -0500, BAR wrote:

jps wrote:
On Fri, 23 Jan 2009 21:04:00 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

On Jan 23, 11:21 pm, jps wrote:
On Fri, 23 Jan 2009 23:12:42 -0500, BAR wrote:
jps wrote:
Earning a living wage is down the drain. It's a rush to find the
cheapest labor, cheapest materials, least expensive transportation.
When you go to the store do you buy the 50 cent cup of coffee or do you
buy the $5 cup of coffee. The $5 cup of coffee provides the employees
with a living wage?
When I go to the store, I look for what made in America. If it's not
twice as much I buy it.

Money, mouth.
Pfffttt.. right... What was the last American made product you bought
in lieu of a foreign product? Or are you just making it up.... uh,
forget it... snerk

You're a ****ing idiot.

I was in a Sears and Home Depot the other day looking for tools for
our assembly bench and saw nothing but **** from China and Taiwan.

I went to a small tool reseller the following day and bought tools
made in America and Germany.

Money, mouth, asshole.

Since when is Germany in the USA?

They didn't have an American version of the electronics style philips
head I was looking for. The guy told me he didn't have any American
made and finding something could take weeks. I didn't have weeks. I
went for a backup choice, from a country that worships technical
precision and pays workers fair wages.

Capiche?

Yes, jps, Germany is a 'worker's paradise'. You liberals should maybe
check some of your facts before putting down the USA.

"More German adults and children are living in poverty – that is,
living in a household with less than half the median income – today
than in 1985. For the total population the income poverty rate
increased from 6% to 11% while for children it increased from 7% to
16%. There was no increase among older people: their poverty rate
remained stable at around 7% (for those aged 66-74) and 11% (those
aged 75 and over)."

And...

"Government redistribution through household taxes and benefits has
reduced income inequality and poverty but not enough to stop the
rapidly increasing gap between rich and poor. Transfers are less
targeted to lower income groups than in other countries."

Gosh, government wealth redistribution didn't work either. Damn, what
a shame.

http://www.oecd.org/dataoecd/45/25/41525346.pdf

Capiche????

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On Sun, 25 Jan 2009 08:33:05 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

thunder wrote:
On Sat, 24 Jan 2009 20:51:39 -0500, John H wrote:


Find a lie and post it!

"Cleland lost three limbs in an accident during a routine non-combat
mission where he was about to drink beer with friends. He saw a grenade
on the ground and picked it up. He could have done that at Fort Dix. ...
Luckily for Cleland's political career and current pomposity about Bush,
he happened to do it while in Vietnam. ...

"Cleland ... didn't 'give his limbs for his country,' or leave them 'on
the battlefield.' There was no bravery involved in dropping a grenade on
himself with no enemy troops in sight."

Ann Coulter talking about triple amputee Max Cleland. The "non-combat"
mission was at Khe Sanh, April 8, 1968. Do you really think he was about
to go "drink beer with friends."

Actually, according to Max Cleland, that is exactly what he was doing,
but according to an eyewitness, it was a rookie private who stated he
dropped the grenade, not Cleland. Cleland picked up the grenade
because he thought it was his, and he always bent the pins so they would
not go off accidentally.

No - grenades come from the factory with the pins bent - Cleland
straightened his like a lot of us did.

What Cleland did was pretty stupid.

--

"Never fight an inanimate object."

P.J. O'Rourke

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On Sun, 25 Jan 2009 15:39:31 GMT, Wizard of Woodstock
wrote:

On Sun, 25 Jan 2009 08:33:05 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

thunder wrote:
On Sat, 24 Jan 2009 20:51:39 -0500, John H wrote:


Find a lie and post it!

"Cleland lost three limbs in an accident during a routine non-combat
mission where he was about to drink beer with friends. He saw a grenade
on the ground and picked it up. He could have done that at Fort Dix. ...
Luckily for Cleland's political career and current pomposity about Bush,
he happened to do it while in Vietnam. ...

"Cleland ... didn't 'give his limbs for his country,' or leave them 'on
the battlefield.' There was no bravery involved in dropping a grenade on
himself with no enemy troops in sight."

Ann Coulter talking about triple amputee Max Cleland. The "non-combat"
mission was at Khe Sanh, April 8, 1968. Do you really think he was about
to go "drink beer with friends."

Actually, according to Max Cleland, that is exactly what he was doing,
but according to an eyewitness, it was a rookie private who stated he
dropped the grenade, not Cleland. Cleland picked up the grenade
because he thought it was his, and he always bent the pins so they would
not go off accidentally.

No - grenades come from the factory with the pins bent - Cleland
straightened his like a lot of us did.

What Cleland did was pretty stupid.

The bottom line is that Thunder's example of a lie by Coulter was a ****
poor example.
--
John H

* Some people are alive only because it's illegal to kill them. *

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On Sun, 25 Jan 2009 04:46:03 -0500, HK wrote:


Reggie read something on the internet and believed it.

It really wasn't about the beer, or the grenade. Imagine a Liberal
trashing a soldier that lost three limbs in the service of this country.
That's what Saxby Chambliss did, and also Ann Coulter. I used the quotes
to point out that some on the right, have lost their moral compass, if
they ever had one.

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On Sun, 25 Jan 2009 10:49:59 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Sun, 25 Jan 2009 15:39:31 GMT, Wizard of Woodstock
wrote:

On Sun, 25 Jan 2009 08:33:05 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

thunder wrote:
On Sat, 24 Jan 2009 20:51:39 -0500, John H wrote:


Find a lie and post it!

"Cleland lost three limbs in an accident during a routine non-combat
mission where he was about to drink beer with friends. He saw a grenade
on the ground and picked it up. He could have done that at Fort Dix. ...
Luckily for Cleland's political career and current pomposity about Bush,
he happened to do it while in Vietnam. ...

"Cleland ... didn't 'give his limbs for his country,' or leave them 'on
the battlefield.' There was no bravery involved in dropping a grenade on
himself with no enemy troops in sight."

Ann Coulter talking about triple amputee Max Cleland. The "non-combat"
mission was at Khe Sanh, April 8, 1968. Do you really think he was about
to go "drink beer with friends."

Actually, according to Max Cleland, that is exactly what he was doing,
but according to an eyewitness, it was a rookie private who stated he
dropped the grenade, not Cleland. Cleland picked up the grenade
because he thought it was his, and he always bent the pins so they would
not go off accidentally.

No - grenades come from the factory with the pins bent - Cleland
straightened his like a lot of us did.

What Cleland did was pretty stupid.

The bottom line is that Thunder's example of a lie by Coulter was a ****
poor example.

10-4.

--

"An idealist is one who, on noticing that
a rose smells better than a cabbage, concludes
that it will also make better soup."

H.L. Mencken

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On Sun, 25 Jan 2009 15:39:31 +0000, Wizard of Woodstock wrote:


No - grenades come from the factory with the pins bent - Cleland
straightened his like a lot of us did.

What Cleland did was pretty stupid.

It wasn't Cleland's grenade that blew up.

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On Sun, 25 Jan 2009 09:53:35 -0600, thunder wrote:

On Sun, 25 Jan 2009 04:46:03 -0500, HK wrote:


Reggie read something on the internet and believed it.

It really wasn't about the beer, or the grenade. Imagine a Liberal
trashing a soldier that lost three limbs in the service of this country.
That's what Saxby Chambliss did, and also Ann Coulter. I used the quotes
to point out that some on the right, have lost their moral compass, if
they ever had one.

Does the loss of limbs give a person the right to do or say anything they
wish?

Where is the 'trashing' of the man? He did something stupid. He was
certainly not a hero.

"Cleland lost three limbs in an accident during a routine non-combat
mission where he was about to drink beer with friends. He saw a grenade
on the ground and picked it up. He could have done that at Fort Dix. ...
Luckily for Cleland's political career and current pomposity about Bush,
he happened to do it while in Vietnam. ...

"Cleland ... didn't 'give his limbs for his country,' or leave them 'on
the battlefield.' There was no bravery involved in dropping a grenade on
himself with no enemy troops in sight."

More, from another source:

"Cleland may be the bravest, most patriotic man alive, but the terrible
wounds he suffered from the grenade accident don’t testify to those traits.
Coulter has a point when she mocks Terry McAuliffe for strongly implying
that Cleland lost his limbs in combat. He didn’t, which is why he wasn’t
awarded a Purple Heart."
--
John H

* Some people are alive only because it's illegal to kill them. *

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On Sun, 25 Jan 2009 09:58:15 -0600, thunder wrote:

On Sun, 25 Jan 2009 15:39:31 +0000, Wizard of Woodstock wrote:


No - grenades come from the factory with the pins bent - Cleland
straightened his like a lot of us did.

What Cleland did was pretty stupid.

It wasn't Cleland's grenade that blew up.

No, but instead of yelling 'GRENADE' and hitting the dirt, he picked it up.
That is not a smart thing to do.
--
John H

* Some people are alive only because it's illegal to kill them. *

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On Sun, 25 Jan 2009 11:13:51 -0500, John H wrote:

On Sun, 25 Jan 2009 09:53:35 -0600, thunder
wrote:

On Sun, 25 Jan 2009 04:46:03 -0500, HK wrote:


Reggie read something on the internet and believed it.

It really wasn't about the beer, or the grenade. Imagine a Liberal
trashing a soldier that lost three limbs in the service of this country.
That's what Saxby Chambliss did, and also Ann Coulter. I used the
quotes to point out that some on the right, have lost their moral
compass, if they ever had one.

Does the loss of limbs give a person the right to do or say anything
they wish?

Where is the 'trashing' of the man? He did something stupid. He was
certainly not a hero.

Well, yeah, he was. He was awarded the Silver Star and the Bronze Star.
In some eyes, like mine, that makes him a hero.

I guess those Medal of Honor recipients, you know the ones that threw
themselves on grenades, I suppose they all did "something stupid", right?

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On Sun, 25 Jan 2009 08:21:37 -0500, BAR wrote:

jps wrote:
On Sat, 24 Jan 2009 13:20:13 -0500, BAR wrote:

jps wrote:
On Fri, 23 Jan 2009 21:04:00 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

On Jan 23, 11:21 pm, jps wrote:
On Fri, 23 Jan 2009 23:12:42 -0500, BAR wrote:
jps wrote:
Earning a living wage is down the drain. It's a rush to find the
cheapest labor, cheapest materials, least expensive transportation.
When you go to the store do you buy the 50 cent cup of coffee or do you
buy the $5 cup of coffee. The $5 cup of coffee provides the employees
with a living wage?
When I go to the store, I look for what made in America. If it's not
twice as much I buy it.

Money, mouth.
Pfffttt.. right... What was the last American made product you bought
in lieu of a foreign product? Or are you just making it up.... uh,
forget it... snerk
You're a ****ing idiot.

I was in a Sears and Home Depot the other day looking for tools for
our assembly bench and saw nothing but **** from China and Taiwan.

I went to a small tool reseller the following day and bought tools
made in America and Germany.

Money, mouth, asshole.
Since when is Germany in the USA?

They didn't have an American version of the electronics style philips
head I was looking for. The guy told me he didn't have any American
made and finding something could take weeks. I didn't have weeks. I
went for a backup choice, from a country that worships technical
precision and pays workers fair wages.

Capiche?

I understand that you have no principles. In the name of expediency you
will sell out your fellow Americans.

Your powers of deduction are truly amazing. Amazingly stupid and
pointless.

I'm in business and needed the tools to get a work bench up and going.
You obviously don't own a business and would have spent several weeks
with your thumb up your ass waiting for American tools?

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On Sun, 25 Jan 2009 14:34:12 GMT, John H.
salmonbait@gmailwithadotcom wrote:

On Sat, 24 Jan 2009 17:29:59 -0800, jps wrote:

On Sat, 24 Jan 2009 13:20:13 -0500, BAR wrote:

jps wrote:
On Fri, 23 Jan 2009 21:04:00 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

On Jan 23, 11:21 pm, jps wrote:
On Fri, 23 Jan 2009 23:12:42 -0500, BAR wrote:
jps wrote:
Earning a living wage is down the drain. It's a rush to find the
cheapest labor, cheapest materials, least expensive transportation.
When you go to the store do you buy the 50 cent cup of coffee or do you
buy the $5 cup of coffee. The $5 cup of coffee provides the employees
with a living wage?
When I go to the store, I look for what made in America. If it's not
twice as much I buy it.

Money, mouth.
Pfffttt.. right... What was the last American made product you bought
in lieu of a foreign product? Or are you just making it up.... uh,
forget it... snerk

You're a ****ing idiot.

I was in a Sears and Home Depot the other day looking for tools for
our assembly bench and saw nothing but **** from China and Taiwan.

I went to a small tool reseller the following day and bought tools
made in America and Germany.

Money, mouth, asshole.

Since when is Germany in the USA?

They didn't have an American version of the electronics style philips
head I was looking for. The guy told me he didn't have any American
made and finding something could take weeks. I didn't have weeks. I
went for a backup choice, from a country that worships technical
precision and pays workers fair wages.

Capiche?

Yes, jps, Germany is a 'worker's paradise'. You liberals should maybe
check some of your facts before putting down the USA.

"More German adults and children are living in poverty – that is,
living in a household with less than half the median income – today
than in 1985. For the total population the income poverty rate
increased from 6% to 11% while for children it increased from 7% to
16%. There was no increase among older people: their poverty rate
remained stable at around 7% (for those aged 66-74) and 11% (those
aged 75 and over)."

Think they're doing better or worse than China with regards to poverty
and low wages? They're suffering from the same conservative wet
dreams that we are and I therefore have sympathy for them.

I'm sure you purchase all your goods at our nation's banker
representatives, Walmart. Beautiful goods made by .50 cent an hour
worker and shipped to the store of your choice from halfway across the
globe for half as much as you'd pay for a quality item made by a free
nation.

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jps wrote:
On Sun, 25 Jan 2009 14:34:12 GMT, John H.
salmonbait@gmailwithadotcom wrote:

On Sat, 24 Jan 2009 17:29:59 -0800, jps wrote:

On Sat, 24 Jan 2009 13:20:13 -0500, BAR wrote:

jps wrote:
On Fri, 23 Jan 2009 21:04:00 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

On Jan 23, 11:21 pm, jps wrote:
On Fri, 23 Jan 2009 23:12:42 -0500, BAR wrote:
jps wrote:
Earning a living wage is down the drain. It's a rush to find the
cheapest labor, cheapest materials, least expensive transportation.
When you go to the store do you buy the 50 cent cup of coffee or do you
buy the $5 cup of coffee. The $5 cup of coffee provides the employees
with a living wage?
When I go to the store, I look for what made in America. If it's not
twice as much I buy it.

Money, mouth.
Pfffttt.. right... What was the last American made product you bought
in lieu of a foreign product? Or are you just making it up.... uh,
forget it... snerk
You're a ****ing idiot.

I was in a Sears and Home Depot the other day looking for tools for
our assembly bench and saw nothing but **** from China and Taiwan.

I went to a small tool reseller the following day and bought tools
made in America and Germany.

Money, mouth, asshole.
Since when is Germany in the USA?
They didn't have an American version of the electronics style philips
head I was looking for. The guy told me he didn't have any American
made and finding something could take weeks. I didn't have weeks. I
went for a backup choice, from a country that worships technical
precision and pays workers fair wages.

Capiche?
Yes, jps, Germany is a 'worker's paradise'. You liberals should maybe
check some of your facts before putting down the USA.

"More German adults and children are living in poverty – that is,
living in a household with less than half the median income – today
than in 1985. For the total population the income poverty rate
increased from 6% to 11% while for children it increased from 7% to
16%. There was no increase among older people: their poverty rate
remained stable at around 7% (for those aged 66-74) and 11% (those
aged 75 and over)."

Think they're doing better or worse than China with regards to poverty
and low wages? They're suffering from the same conservative wet
dreams that we are and I therefore have sympathy for them.

I'm sure you purchase all your goods at our nation's banker
representatives, Walmart. Beautiful goods made by .50 cent an hour
worker and shipped to the store of your choice from halfway across the
globe for half as much as you'd pay for a quality item made by a free
nation.

Do you pay all of your workers a living wage? Do you pay anyone less
than $75,000 a year? If you do you are a cold heartless ******* who is
just in business to screw the little guy.

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On Jan 26, 2:00*am, jps wrote:
On Sun, 25 Jan 2009 08:21:37 -0500, BAR wrote:
jps wrote:
On Sat, 24 Jan 2009 13:20:13 -0500, BAR wrote:

jps wrote:
On Fri, 23 Jan 2009 21:04:00 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

On Jan 23, 11:21 pm, jps wrote:
On Fri, 23 Jan 2009 23:12:42 -0500, BAR wrote:
jps wrote:
Earning a living wage is down the drain. *It's a rush to find the
cheapest labor, cheapest materials, least expensive transportation.
When you go to the store do you buy the 50 cent cup of coffee or do you
buy the $5 cup of coffee. The $5 cup of coffee provides the employees
with a living wage?
When I go to the store, I look for what made in America. *If it's not
twice as much I buy it.

Money, mouth.
Pfffttt.. right... What was the last American made product you bought
in lieu of a foreign product? Or are you just making it up.... uh,
forget it... snerk
You're a ****ing idiot.

I was in a Sears and Home Depot the other day looking for tools for
our assembly *bench and saw nothing but **** from China and Taiwan..

I went to a small tool reseller the following day and bought tools
made in America and Germany.

Money, mouth, asshole.
Since when is Germany in the USA?

They didn't have an American version of the electronics style philips
head I was looking for. *The guy told me he didn't have any American
made and finding something could take weeks. *I didn't have weeks. *I
went for a backup choice, from a country that worships technical
precision and pays workers fair wages.

Capiche?

I understand that you have no principles. In the name of expediency you
will sell out your fellow Americans.

Your powers of deduction are truly amazing. *Amazingly stupid and
pointless.

I'm in business and needed the tools to get a work bench up and going.
You obviously don't own a business and would have spent several weeks
with your thumb up your ass waiting for American tools?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Well, that was the insinuation you were making earlier until I called
you to the table. Then you changed your story.. Liar...

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jps wrote:

Your powers of deduction are truly amazing. Amazingly stupid and
pointless.

I'm in business and needed the tools to get a work bench up and going.
You obviously don't own a business and would have spent several weeks
with your thumb up your ass waiting for American tools?

The truth comes out. When push comes to shove you throw your principles
out the window. Buy American only when it doesn't inconvenience you.

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On Jan 26, 8:13*pm, BAR wrote:
jps wrote:

Your powers of deduction are truly amazing. *Amazingly stupid and
pointless.

I'm in business and needed the tools to get a work bench up and going.
You obviously don't own a business and would have spent several weeks
with your thumb up your ass waiting for American tools?

The truth comes out. When push comes to shove you throw your principles
out the window. Buy American only when it doesn't inconvenience you.

He needed a screwdriver to write software? Humm, probably didn't buy
any tools at all, was just trying to make a point so he "Lobsta'
boated" it...

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On Jan 26, 8:57*pm, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Jan 26, 8:13 pm, BAR wrote:

The header is just perfect for you...

The Audacity of Dopes.

You keep sayin' that, and yet it's you that keeps putting your foot in
your mouth, idiot...

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HK wrote:
wrote:
On Jan 26, 8:13 pm, BAR wrote:


The header is just perfect for you...

The Audacity of Dopes.

It just points out how those on the left lack principles and moral
grounding.

You expect everyone else to abide by the rules you set except when it
inconveniences you. Lynn with DOD. Geithner "The Tax Cheat".

And, I'll bet Obama would like to have a do-over with his selection of
Biden as VP. What a freaken classless embarrassing idiot he has turned
out to be.

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BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
wrote:
On Jan 26, 8:13 pm, BAR wrote:


The header is just perfect for you...

The Audacity of Dopes.

It just points out how those on the left lack principles and moral
grounding.


Interesting, I was relating the header to JustHate and I suppose you
couldn't figure that out.

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HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
wrote:
On Jan 26, 8:13 pm, BAR wrote:


The header is just perfect for you...

The Audacity of Dopes.

It just points out how those on the left lack principles and moral
grounding.


Interesting, I was relating the header to JustHate and I suppose you
couldn't figure that out.

Your too easy to figure out.