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JoeSpareBedroom January 22nd 09 06:32 PM

The failed Obama administration
 
wrote in message
...
On Jan 22, 1:04 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:


You like 60 Minutes??? Aren't you people being instructed by the
Garlique
salesman to hate CBS?


And, it appears we agree on BBC, although you pretended not to notice
that
when you claimed not to like my sources.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


You really need to start to read. I did not say anywhere I did not
like the BBC..
====================
No, but when I mentioned it, you dissed it.


Nope, never did that and you know it...

====================
I simply noted that your stated sources limit you to
one point of view. As to CBS, I don't always agree, but I watch for
the same reasons I watch Chris Matthews, I am interested in all
viewpoints, not just the ones I agree with. That is the difference
between me and folks like you and Harry... I don't consider any part
of the country "fly over", I want to be informed, even if it changes
my opinion..

====================

Most of your sources involve sitting and watching. I need to receive
information at a higher rate of speed. I have an actual life from 6:00 AM
until midnight most days.


More excuses, you don't know what I do or where I work. Yes, I happen
to be able to watch news while I am working, so what? So, where do you
get your news at "a high rate of speed"? I mean, you already
dismissed 15 second news clips, or doesn't that count for you. Fact is
Joe, like most far left liberals, you limit your input, guess it's
easier that way, but it still leaves you terribly uninformed...


================


Reading is one way of getting news at a much higher rate of speed than
television, which wastes time with commercials.

I'll make you a deal: Find 10 news stories which you think I haven't been
exposed to. Find them via YOUR news sources, even if all you give me is a
one-line description of the TV story.

If I can't find 8 out of 10 via my sources and prove it to you, then you're
correct. Start early Saturday. I won't have time to play until then.



[email protected] January 22nd 09 06:36 PM

The failed Obama administration
 
On Jan 22, 1:32*pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
wrote in message

...
On Jan 22, 1:04 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:



You like 60 Minutes??? Aren't you people being instructed by the
Garlique
salesman to hate CBS?


And, it appears we agree on BBC, although you pretended not to notice
that
when you claimed not to like my sources.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


You really need to start to read. I did not say anywhere I did not
like the BBC..
====================
No, but when I mentioned it, you dissed it.


Nope, never did that and you know it...



====================
I simply noted that your stated sources limit you to
one point of view. As to CBS, I don't always agree, but I watch for
the same reasons I watch Chris Matthews, I am interested in all
viewpoints, not just the ones I agree with. That is the difference
between me and folks like you and Harry... I don't consider any part
of the country "fly over", I want to be informed, even if it changes
my opinion..


====================


Most of your sources involve sitting and watching. I need to receive
information at a higher rate of speed. I have an actual life from 6:00 AM
until midnight most days.


More excuses, you don't know what I do or where I work. Yes, I happen
to be able to watch news while I am working, so what? So, where do you
get your news at "a high rate of speed"? *I mean, you already
dismissed 15 second news clips, or doesn't that count for you. Fact is
Joe, like most far left liberals, you limit your input, guess it's
easier that way, but it still leaves you terribly uninformed...

================

Reading is one way of getting news at a much higher rate of speed than
television, which wastes time with commercials.

I'll make you a deal: Find 10 news stories which you think I haven't been
exposed to. Find them via YOUR news sources, even if all you give me is a
one-line description of the TV story.

If I can't find 8 out of 10 via my sources and prove it to you, then you're
correct. Start early Saturday. I won't have time to play until then.


Pfffftttt....

JoeSpareBedroom January 22nd 09 06:38 PM

The failed Obama administration
 
wrote in message
...
On Jan 22, 1:04 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:


You like 60 Minutes??? Aren't you people being instructed by the
Garlique
salesman to hate CBS?


And, it appears we agree on BBC, although you pretended not to notice
that
when you claimed not to like my sources.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


You really need to start to read. I did not say anywhere I did not
like the BBC..
====================
No, but when I mentioned it, you dissed it.


Nope, never did that and you know it...

====================
I simply noted that your stated sources limit you to
one point of view. As to CBS, I don't always agree, but I watch for
the same reasons I watch Chris Matthews, I am interested in all
viewpoints, not just the ones I agree with. That is the difference
between me and folks like you and Harry... I don't consider any part
of the country "fly over", I want to be informed, even if it changes
my opinion..

====================

Most of your sources involve sitting and watching. I need to receive
information at a higher rate of speed. I have an actual life from 6:00 AM
until midnight most days.


More excuses, you don't know what I do or where I work. Yes, I happen
to be able to watch news while I am working, so what? So, where do you
get your news at "a high rate of speed"? I mean, you already
dismissed 15 second news clips, or doesn't that count for you. Fact is
Joe, like most far left liberals, you limit your input, guess it's
easier that way, but it still leaves you terribly uninformed...

================

By the way, my day job keeps me on the phone all day long. No TV possible.
After dinner, I'm usually practicing music. No TV possible. Reading is my
primary source of news, and you have no problem with that unless you invent
one. Radio comes next.



JoeSpareBedroom January 22nd 09 06:38 PM

The failed Obama administration
 
wrote in message
...
On Jan 22, 1:32 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
wrote in message

...
On Jan 22, 1:04 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:



You like 60 Minutes??? Aren't you people being instructed by the
Garlique
salesman to hate CBS?


And, it appears we agree on BBC, although you pretended not to notice
that
when you claimed not to like my sources.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


You really need to start to read. I did not say anywhere I did not
like the BBC..
====================
No, but when I mentioned it, you dissed it.


Nope, never did that and you know it...



====================
I simply noted that your stated sources limit you to
one point of view. As to CBS, I don't always agree, but I watch for
the same reasons I watch Chris Matthews, I am interested in all
viewpoints, not just the ones I agree with. That is the difference
between me and folks like you and Harry... I don't consider any part
of the country "fly over", I want to be informed, even if it changes
my opinion..


====================


Most of your sources involve sitting and watching. I need to receive
information at a higher rate of speed. I have an actual life from 6:00
AM
until midnight most days.


More excuses, you don't know what I do or where I work. Yes, I happen
to be able to watch news while I am working, so what? So, where do you
get your news at "a high rate of speed"? I mean, you already
dismissed 15 second news clips, or doesn't that count for you. Fact is
Joe, like most far left liberals, you limit your input, guess it's
easier that way, but it still leaves you terribly uninformed...

================

Reading is one way of getting news at a much higher rate of speed than
television, which wastes time with commercials.

I'll make you a deal: Find 10 news stories which you think I haven't been
exposed to. Find them via YOUR news sources, even if all you give me is a
one-line description of the TV story.

If I can't find 8 out of 10 via my sources and prove it to you, then
you're
correct. Start early Saturday. I won't have time to play until then.


Pfffftttt....

=============

OK. Give me one story. Just one. If you refuse, then you've admitted that
your claim was pure nonsense.

One news story which you think is exclusive to your magical sources.



[email protected] January 22nd 09 06:40 PM

The failed Obama administration
 
On Jan 22, 1:38*pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
wrote in message

...
On Jan 22, 1:04 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:



You like 60 Minutes??? Aren't you people being instructed by the
Garlique
salesman to hate CBS?


And, it appears we agree on BBC, although you pretended not to notice
that
when you claimed not to like my sources.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


You really need to start to read. I did not say anywhere I did not
like the BBC..
====================
No, but when I mentioned it, you dissed it.


Nope, never did that and you know it...



====================
I simply noted that your stated sources limit you to
one point of view. As to CBS, I don't always agree, but I watch for
the same reasons I watch Chris Matthews, I am interested in all
viewpoints, not just the ones I agree with. That is the difference
between me and folks like you and Harry... I don't consider any part
of the country "fly over", I want to be informed, even if it changes
my opinion..


====================


Most of your sources involve sitting and watching. I need to receive
information at a higher rate of speed. I have an actual life from 6:00 AM
until midnight most days.


More excuses, you don't know what I do or where I work. Yes, I happen
to be able to watch news while I am working, so what? So, where do you
get your news at "a high rate of speed"? *I mean, you already
dismissed 15 second news clips, or doesn't that count for you. Fact is
Joe, like most far left liberals, you limit your input, guess it's
easier that way, but it still leaves you terribly uninformed...

================

By the way, my day job keeps me on the phone all day long. No TV possible..
After dinner, I'm usually practicing music. No TV possible. Reading is my
primary source of news, and you have no problem with that unless you invent
one. Radio comes next.


All I am saying is by your own admission you get your news from the
BBC and NPR.. You did not note with several opportunities any other
sources which is fine as long as you are satisfied with only left
leaning opinion...

BAR[_3_] January 22nd 09 06:43 PM

The failed Obama administration
 
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Jan 22, 1:04 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:

You like 60 Minutes??? Aren't you people being instructed by the
Garlique
salesman to hate CBS?
And, it appears we agree on BBC, although you pretended not to notice
that
when you claimed not to like my sources.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

You really need to start to read. I did not say anywhere I did not
like the BBC..
====================
No, but when I mentioned it, you dissed it.


Nope, never did that and you know it...
====================
I simply noted that your stated sources limit you to
one point of view. As to CBS, I don't always agree, but I watch for
the same reasons I watch Chris Matthews, I am interested in all
viewpoints, not just the ones I agree with. That is the difference
between me and folks like you and Harry... I don't consider any part
of the country "fly over", I want to be informed, even if it changes
my opinion..

====================

Most of your sources involve sitting and watching. I need to receive
information at a higher rate of speed. I have an actual life from 6:00 AM
until midnight most days.


More excuses, you don't know what I do or where I work. Yes, I happen
to be able to watch news while I am working, so what? So, where do you
get your news at "a high rate of speed"? I mean, you already
dismissed 15 second news clips, or doesn't that count for you. Fact is
Joe, like most far left liberals, you limit your input, guess it's
easier that way, but it still leaves you terribly uninformed...

================

By the way, my day job keeps me on the phone all day long. No TV possible.
After dinner, I'm usually practicing music. No TV possible. Reading is my
primary source of news, and you have no problem with that unless you invent
one. Radio comes next.


You are the ******* calling my house soliciting donations?

BAR[_3_] January 22nd 09 06:43 PM

The failed Obama administration
 
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Jan 22, 1:32 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
wrote in message

...
On Jan 22, 1:04 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:



You like 60 Minutes??? Aren't you people being instructed by the
Garlique
salesman to hate CBS?
And, it appears we agree on BBC, although you pretended not to notice
that
when you claimed not to like my sources.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
You really need to start to read. I did not say anywhere I did not
like the BBC..
====================
No, but when I mentioned it, you dissed it.

Nope, never did that and you know it...



====================
I simply noted that your stated sources limit you to
one point of view. As to CBS, I don't always agree, but I watch for
the same reasons I watch Chris Matthews, I am interested in all
viewpoints, not just the ones I agree with. That is the difference
between me and folks like you and Harry... I don't consider any part
of the country "fly over", I want to be informed, even if it changes
my opinion..
====================
Most of your sources involve sitting and watching. I need to receive
information at a higher rate of speed. I have an actual life from 6:00
AM
until midnight most days.

More excuses, you don't know what I do or where I work. Yes, I happen
to be able to watch news while I am working, so what? So, where do you
get your news at "a high rate of speed"? I mean, you already
dismissed 15 second news clips, or doesn't that count for you. Fact is
Joe, like most far left liberals, you limit your input, guess it's
easier that way, but it still leaves you terribly uninformed...

================

Reading is one way of getting news at a much higher rate of speed than
television, which wastes time with commercials.

I'll make you a deal: Find 10 news stories which you think I haven't been
exposed to. Find them via YOUR news sources, even if all you give me is a
one-line description of the TV story.

If I can't find 8 out of 10 via my sources and prove it to you, then
you're
correct. Start early Saturday. I won't have time to play until then.


Pfffftttt....

=============

OK. Give me one story. Just one. If you refuse, then you've admitted that
your claim was pure nonsense.


If you don't go and jump out the window right now you are an ass.

One news story which you think is exclusive to your magical sources.


Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq.[_4_] January 22nd 09 06:50 PM

The failed Obama administration
 
HK wrote:


The Israelis have an interesting set of techniques with which they
torture their suspects: they set them up in dorms, let them do their
own cooking, allow contact family and conjugal visits, kill them with
kindness, and get a hell of a lot more information than we do.


Do you have proof of this?



It's been covered in the printed and television news several times. It's
not my problem if you are unaware of this.


While it would be nice if that was correct, as with most statements from
Harry, it isn't.

Israeli Interrogation Methods Are State Terror
http://www.northstarcompass.org/nsc0706/israel.htm

TORTURE AND ILL-TREATMENT
Israel's Interrogation of
Palestinians from the Occupied Territories

http://www.hrw.org/legacy/reports/1994/israel/

The Center for Human Rights and Humanitarian Law

http://www.wcl.american.edu/hrbrief/v4i3/israel43.htm

UN rips Israel's interrogation methods// Tactics amount to torture,
panel says
http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P2-4386929.html



Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq.[_4_] January 22nd 09 06:52 PM

The failed Obama administration
 
HK wrote:


The facts are simple: the Israelis treat their prisoners humanely. We do
not.


Israel: Palestinian prisoners suffering inhuman conditions of detention
on hunger strike

The International Federation for Human Rights (FIDH) expresses its grave
concern at the hunger strike observed by a large number of political
prisoners detained in Israel.


Send Alerted by its member organizations Al Haq, the Palestinian
Center for Human Rights (PCHR) and the Public Committee Against Torture
in Israel (PCATI), the FIDH recalls that thousands of Palestinian
political prisoners are currently on hunger strike in order to protest
against their detention conditions and their treatment inside Israel
Prison Service facilities.

The FIDH is extremely worried as the strike, that started on 15th August
in 4 Israeli prisons, is now spreading throughout other detention
facilities.

According the FIDH member organizations, the PCHR, Al Haq and PCATI,
prisoners are routinely subjected to torture, degrading treatment and
humiliation and especially to humiliating strip searches. Moreover,
political prisoners are often placed in solitary confinement for
extended periods of time. Since 15th August 2004, Israeli authorities
have taken harsh measures from the moment some prisoners declared their
intention to strike, such as transferring dozens of “prison leaders”
from general sections to solitary confinement, prohibiting all visits by
families and lawyers to the prisoners.

The FIDH had already published a mission report in 2003 denouncing the
bad conditions of detention of Palestinian prisoners in Israel and the
impossibility for their families to visit them. (Palestinian Detainees
in Israel: Inhuman Conditions of Detention, July 2003:
http://www.fidh.org/communiq/2003/i...) .

The FIDH recalls that such measures contravene namely to the UN Standard
Minimum Rules for the Treatment of Prisoners, applicable in situations
where individuals are deprived of their liberty.

The FIDH recalls that all individuals who are deprived of their liberty
shall be treated with humanity and with respect for their human dignity.

Considering that the prisoners’ demands are in conformity with the
international standards ensuring a human treatment to individuals
deprived of their liberty, the FIDH, together with its member
organizations, urges the Israeli authorities to:

ensure better conditions of detention to the Palestinian political
prisoners detained in Israel;
respect its international obligations under the ICCPR, the ICESCR, the
Convention Against Torture;
abide by the international Standard Minimum Rules for the Treatment of
Prisoners.


Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq.[_4_] January 22nd 09 06:57 PM

The failed Obama administration
 
wrote:
On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 13:14:16 -0500, BAR wrote:

HK wrote:
Any idiot, even you, can google it.

Your claim, you prove it.


http://www.wcl.american.edu/hrbrief/v4i3/israel43.htm

All onlookers are invited tio either prove or disprove what is on this
link if they feel it is not true.

Without any solid evidence to the contrary, this will have to serve as
the truth in the matter.


This article does state that the UN feels the Israeli's torture their
political prisoners. As you said, this article will have to serve as
the truth in this matter.


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