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After months of screwing around and dropping expensive parts in the
water I managed to reinstall my roller furling on my sailboat. It
went incredibly smoothly this time whereas every other time I tried it
was a fiasco.

"Frogwatch" wrote in message
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After months of screwing around and dropping expensive parts in the
water I managed to reinstall my roller furling on my sailboat. It
went incredibly smoothly this time whereas every other time I tried it
was a fiasco.

Let me guess. You had your neighbor do it?

Eisboch :-)

On Mon, 12 Jan 2009 12:41:02 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch
wrote:

After months of screwing around and dropping expensive parts in the
water I managed to reinstall my roller furling on my sailboat. It
went incredibly smoothly this time whereas every other time I tried it
was a fiasco.

Congrats!

On Jan 12, 4:23 pm, John H wrote:
On Mon, 12 Jan 2009 12:41:02 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch

wrote:
After months of screwing around and dropping expensive parts in the
water I managed to reinstall my roller furling on my sailboat. It
went incredibly smoothly this time whereas every other time I tried it
was a fiasco.

Congrats!

Actually, I think the cool weather helped. When I am on the dock in
the summer and it is 100 degrees and nearly 99% humidity and I am
staring up the mast toward the sun my ability to process problems gets
worse. In the cool weather, everything seems much easier. Also, I
ALWAYS do things much better when I am by myself. Having "help" makes
some things nearly impossible for me (yes, I know, it is a personality
flaw). Doing this during the week meant there was nobody on the dock
to volunteer to help so everything went well (weird, I know but true).
NOW, I can go sailing.

On Jan 12, 4:37 pm, Frogwatch wrote:
On Jan 12, 4:23 pm, John H wrote:

On Mon, 12 Jan 2009 12:41:02 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch

wrote:
After months of screwing around and dropping expensive parts in the
water I managed to reinstall my roller furling on my sailboat. It
went incredibly smoothly this time whereas every other time I tried it
was a fiasco.

Congrats!

Actually, I think the cool weather helped. When I am on the dock in
the summer and it is 100 degrees and nearly 99% humidity and I am
staring up the mast toward the sun my ability to process problems gets
worse. In the cool weather, everything seems much easier. Also, I
ALWAYS do things much better when I am by myself. Having "help" makes
some things nearly impossible for me (yes, I know, it is a personality
flaw). Doing this during the week meant there was nobody on the dock
to volunteer to help so everything went well (weird, I know but true).
NOW, I can go sailing.

This brings up a problem I have and I wonder if others have it.

My wife often says "When you go to work on the boat you ought to take
so and so to help" or "So and so would love to help you work on the
boat", sometimes this will mean my son or daughter or some friend and
most of the time I go alone because I know that with anybody else
along I will get almost nothing done. Even with an extra set of hands
I accomplish less than if I was alone.
This even carries over into the rest of life. For example, right now
I am building a fence to keep the dogs in the yard and my wife keeps
saying our son should help me and I agree he should but I dont know
what I am doing so how can I tell him what to do? For me, it is
easier to figure out a way to do something alone than to figure out
how to use help.
I know this is a problem but I simply do not see how to get around
it. My wife has no problem ordering people to do things but she
simply gets nothing done in spite of it.
Surely, there must be a way to utilize people's help but I simply do
not see it.

"Frogwatch" wrote in message
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On Jan 12, 4:37 pm, Frogwatch wrote:
On Jan 12, 4:23 pm, John H wrote:

On Mon, 12 Jan 2009 12:41:02 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch

wrote:
After months of screwing around and dropping expensive parts in the
water I managed to reinstall my roller furling on my sailboat. It
went incredibly smoothly this time whereas every other time I tried it
was a fiasco.

Congrats!

Actually, I think the cool weather helped. When I am on the dock in
the summer and it is 100 degrees and nearly 99% humidity and I am
staring up the mast toward the sun my ability to process problems gets
worse. In the cool weather, everything seems much easier. Also, I
ALWAYS do things much better when I am by myself. Having "help" makes
some things nearly impossible for me (yes, I know, it is a personality
flaw). Doing this during the week meant there was nobody on the dock
to volunteer to help so everything went well (weird, I know but true).
NOW, I can go sailing.

This brings up a problem I have and I wonder if others have it.

My wife often says "When you go to work on the boat you ought to take
so and so to help" or "So and so would love to help you work on the
boat", sometimes this will mean my son or daughter or some friend and
most of the time I go alone because I know that with anybody else
along I will get almost nothing done. Even with an extra set of hands
I accomplish less than if I was alone.
This even carries over into the rest of life. For example, right now
I am building a fence to keep the dogs in the yard and my wife keeps
saying our son should help me and I agree he should but I dont know
what I am doing so how can I tell him what to do? For me, it is
easier to figure out a way to do something alone than to figure out
how to use help.
I know this is a problem but I simply do not see how to get around
it. My wife has no problem ordering people to do things but she
simply gets nothing done in spite of it.
Surely, there must be a way to utilize people's help but I simply do
not see it.

Look at it as a shared experience. your son/daughter may surprise you with
a good suggestion or two.
At the very least you are helping a bit with their education.
I might try that this summer as I paint my house.

On Jan 12, 9:06 pm, Vic Smith wrote:
On Mon, 12 Jan 2009 12:41:02 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch

wrote:
After months of screwing around and dropping expensive parts in the
water I managed to reinstall my roller furling on my sailboat. It
went incredibly smoothly this time whereas every other time I tried it
was a fiasco.

So did you dive for the part, or buy a new one?

--Vic

I recently tried to find the part on the bottom again using a long
pole and the current must have finally carried it away so I bought a
new one.

As far as repetetive things go, I had my son put in the fence posts
and they zigged and zagged all over the place. Fortunately these are
the kind you pound in so are easy to do. When I went to re-do it, I
spent as much time putting in one as he did for all of them.
I admit, I am a terrible people manager.

On Jan 12, 6:40*pm, "Don White" wrote:
"Frogwatch" wrote in message

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On Jan 12, 4:37 pm, Frogwatch wrote:
On Jan 12, 4:23 pm, John H wrote:

On Mon, 12 Jan 2009 12:41:02 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch

wrote:
After months of screwing around and dropping expensive parts in the
water I managed to reinstall my roller furling on my sailboat. *It
went incredibly smoothly this time whereas every other time I tried it
was a fiasco.

Congrats!

Actually, I think the cool weather helped. *When I am on the dock in
the summer and it is 100 degrees and nearly 99% humidity and I am
staring up the mast toward the sun my ability to process problems gets
worse. *In the cool weather, everything seems much easier. *Also, I
ALWAYS do things much better when I am by myself. *Having "help" makes
some things nearly impossible for me (yes, I know, it is a personality
flaw). *Doing this during the week meant there was nobody on the dock
to volunteer to help so everything went well (weird, I know but true).
NOW, I can go sailing.

This brings up a problem I have and I wonder if others have it.

My wife often says "When you go to work on the boat you ought to take
so and so to help" or "So and so would love to help you work on the
boat", sometimes this will mean my son or daughter or some friend and
most of the time I go alone because I know that with anybody else
along I will get almost nothing done. *Even with an extra set of hands
I accomplish less than if I was alone.
This even carries over into the rest of life. *For example, right now
I am building a fence to keep the dogs in the yard and my wife keeps
saying our son should help me and I agree he should but I dont know
what I am doing so how can I tell him what to do? *For me, it is
easier to figure out a way to do something alone than to figure out
how to use help.
I know this is a problem but I simply do not see how to get around
it. *My wife has no problem ordering people to do things but she
simply gets nothing done in spite of it.
Surely, there must be a way to utilize people's help but I simply do
not see it.

Look at it as a shared experience. *your son/daughter may surprise you with
a good suggestion or two.
At the very least you are helping a bit with their education.
I might try that this summer as I paint my house.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

You'll share your experience of fetching your son more beer while you
paint the house?

On Jan 13, 10:25 am, wrote:
On Jan 12, 6:40 pm, "Don White" wrote:

"Frogwatch" wrote in message

...

On Jan 12, 4:37 pm, Frogwatch wrote:
On Jan 12, 4:23 pm, John H wrote:

On Mon, 12 Jan 2009 12:41:02 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch

wrote:
After months of screwing around and dropping expensive parts in the
water I managed to reinstall my roller furling on my sailboat. It
went incredibly smoothly this time whereas every other time I tried it
was a fiasco.

Congrats!

Actually, I think the cool weather helped. When I am on the dock in
the summer and it is 100 degrees and nearly 99% humidity and I am
staring up the mast toward the sun my ability to process problems gets
worse. In the cool weather, everything seems much easier. Also, I
ALWAYS do things much better when I am by myself. Having "help" makes
some things nearly impossible for me (yes, I know, it is a personality
flaw). Doing this during the week meant there was nobody on the dock
to volunteer to help so everything went well (weird, I know but true).
NOW, I can go sailing.

This brings up a problem I have and I wonder if others have it.

My wife often says "When you go to work on the boat you ought to take
so and so to help" or "So and so would love to help you work on the
boat", sometimes this will mean my son or daughter or some friend and
most of the time I go alone because I know that with anybody else
along I will get almost nothing done. Even with an extra set of hands
I accomplish less than if I was alone.
This even carries over into the rest of life. For example, right now
I am building a fence to keep the dogs in the yard and my wife keeps
saying our son should help me and I agree he should but I dont know
what I am doing so how can I tell him what to do? For me, it is
easier to figure out a way to do something alone than to figure out
how to use help.
I know this is a problem but I simply do not see how to get around
it. My wife has no problem ordering people to do things but she
simply gets nothing done in spite of it.
Surely, there must be a way to utilize people's help but I simply do
not see it.

Look at it as a shared experience. your son/daughter may surprise you with
a good suggestion or two.
At the very least you are helping a bit with their education.
I might try that this summer as I paint my house.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

You'll share your experience of fetching your son more beer while you
paint the house?

Sometimes it sure seems like I am heading in that direction. I know I
was less than enthusiastic about things my dad needed done when I was
that age too but somehow learned how to do things right.
My son wants a car but of course I will not contribute to him buying
one. We have two old trucks that run and cost almost nothing except
for gas and insurance. Of course they need repairs and as I have a
new trruck I have no motivation to repair the old ones.
So, I said, I will buy the parts to make repairs if he will install
the parts and I will advise. So, he needs to put the driveshaft back
on after replacing the u-joints.

Nick: Dad, I cant crawl under the truck, its too low.
Me: (thinking I know this is BS cuz I can get under it) OK, lets go
see

We go crawl under it, so its a little uncomfortable in the rocky
driveway, no need to be wimpy. I hand him the bolts as he installs
them. Unfortunately, the circlips dont go on and I realize one of the
bearings has fallen under the u-joint so we have to take it off again.

Nick: We cant just leave it?
Me: You want the shaft to fall off again when you are on another
date?

That was a few days ago and it has been sitting there since. I think
I will just have to order him to do it.

When I was that age I craved doing mechanical stuff but he seems to
hate it.
When he looks at cars, he wants something that looks great and does
not require any work. I found the coolest 1960 Willy's jeep truck
with flathead 6 engine for very little, easiest thing ever to work on,
so damned simple I almost lust to be working on it. We could sell the
old Nissan and old Dodge and buy that and it would be soooooo cool, he
has no interest.