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hk January 11th 09 10:12 PM

For those who care or wonder about Apple Mac vs Windows PC...
 
Well, they both work very well, and as far as I am concerned, it is a
half dozen of one and six of the other.

The Apple Mac OS is a little more to my liking, now that I am sort of
used to it, but there are still areas where I think the Apple system is
just too cute. Also, there is some software, not much of it, that is
important to me and only runs on a PC and may not like running under an
emulator.

So, after I got my Mac, I installed in turn the two major PC emulator
suites that run on a Mac as virtual machines. Both work OK, and I tended
to like VMware Fusion a bit better. But while in emulator mode, there
were still one or two programs that simply would not work on an emulated
PC.

Last week, a buddy who runs the same software suggested I dump the
emulators and run Apple's Boot Camp. I did. Now, I boot up my Mac in
either Apple Mac OS or MS Vista, and while in VISTA everything I need to
work works just fine. Eureka, as Sarah Palin's great-great grandfather,
Thomas Edison, used to exclaim.

There's no real downside to Boot Camp that I have noticed so far. I know
there are some PC few apps that may cause it trouble, but I am not
running any. All the hardware works fine. And to reboot in Vista takes
no longer than starting up one of the emulators and then XP or VISTA.
Shutting down VISTA in Boot Camp is faster than shutting down the emulators.

VISTA runs like greased lightning in Boot Camp. Got a 5.+ in the built
in ratings.

So, if you are thinking of moving to a Mac and have PC software you
need, the chances are it will run ok in Windows under Boot Camp. The
Apple site has knowledge base articles on what software is troublesome.

Sometime this month, my new Mac desktop will be up and running and my
last PC desktop will be running server software.

BAR[_3_] January 12th 09 01:38 AM

For those who care or wonder about Apple Mac vs Windows PC...
 
hk wrote:

No, we are not interested in your opinion on computers, politics, sex
with teenagers or anything else you may have to offer.

jps January 12th 09 07:40 AM

For those who care or wonder about Apple Mac vs Windows PC...
 
On Sun, 11 Jan 2009 17:12:28 -0500, hk wrote:

Well, they both work very well, and as far as I am concerned, it is a
half dozen of one and six of the other.

The Apple Mac OS is a little more to my liking, now that I am sort of
used to it, but there are still areas where I think the Apple system is
just too cute. Also, there is some software, not much of it, that is
important to me and only runs on a PC and may not like running under an
emulator.

So, after I got my Mac, I installed in turn the two major PC emulator
suites that run on a Mac as virtual machines. Both work OK, and I tended
to like VMware Fusion a bit better. But while in emulator mode, there
were still one or two programs that simply would not work on an emulated
PC.

Last week, a buddy who runs the same software suggested I dump the
emulators and run Apple's Boot Camp. I did. Now, I boot up my Mac in
either Apple Mac OS or MS Vista, and while in VISTA everything I need to
work works just fine. Eureka, as Sarah Palin's great-great grandfather,
Thomas Edison, used to exclaim.

There's no real downside to Boot Camp that I have noticed so far. I know
there are some PC few apps that may cause it trouble, but I am not
running any. All the hardware works fine. And to reboot in Vista takes
no longer than starting up one of the emulators and then XP or VISTA.
Shutting down VISTA in Boot Camp is faster than shutting down the emulators.

VISTA runs like greased lightning in Boot Camp. Got a 5.+ in the built
in ratings.

So, if you are thinking of moving to a Mac and have PC software you
need, the chances are it will run ok in Windows under Boot Camp. The
Apple site has knowledge base articles on what software is troublesome.

Sometime this month, my new Mac desktop will be up and running and my
last PC desktop will be running server software.


I have an older 20" G5 the kids use so can't use Boot Camp. Wish I
could. Nothing but PCs in the rest of the house.

My first computer was a "Fat" Mac in 1984, one floppy drive, no HD.
Several months later I upgraded to the external floppy drive. It's
incredible what's happened in 25 years.

A friend recently showed me the Mac OS running on his pc via Ubuntu.
Very cool.

jps January 12th 09 07:53 AM

For those who care or wonder about Apple Mac vs Windows PC...
 
On Sun, 11 Jan 2009 23:40:48 -0800, jps wrote:

On Sun, 11 Jan 2009 17:12:28 -0500, hk wrote:

Well, they both work very well, and as far as I am concerned, it is a
half dozen of one and six of the other.

The Apple Mac OS is a little more to my liking, now that I am sort of
used to it, but there are still areas where I think the Apple system is
just too cute. Also, there is some software, not much of it, that is
important to me and only runs on a PC and may not like running under an
emulator.

So, after I got my Mac, I installed in turn the two major PC emulator
suites that run on a Mac as virtual machines. Both work OK, and I tended
to like VMware Fusion a bit better. But while in emulator mode, there
were still one or two programs that simply would not work on an emulated
PC.

Last week, a buddy who runs the same software suggested I dump the
emulators and run Apple's Boot Camp. I did. Now, I boot up my Mac in
either Apple Mac OS or MS Vista, and while in VISTA everything I need to
work works just fine. Eureka, as Sarah Palin's great-great grandfather,
Thomas Edison, used to exclaim.

There's no real downside to Boot Camp that I have noticed so far. I know
there are some PC few apps that may cause it trouble, but I am not
running any. All the hardware works fine. And to reboot in Vista takes
no longer than starting up one of the emulators and then XP or VISTA.
Shutting down VISTA in Boot Camp is faster than shutting down the emulators.

VISTA runs like greased lightning in Boot Camp. Got a 5.+ in the built
in ratings.

So, if you are thinking of moving to a Mac and have PC software you
need, the chances are it will run ok in Windows under Boot Camp. The
Apple site has knowledge base articles on what software is troublesome.

Sometime this month, my new Mac desktop will be up and running and my
last PC desktop will be running server software.


I have an older 20" G5 the kids use so can't use Boot Camp. Wish I
could. Nothing but PCs in the rest of the house.

My first computer was a "Fat" Mac in 1984, one floppy drive, no HD.
Several months later I upgraded to the external floppy drive. It's
incredible what's happened in 25 years.

A friend recently showed me the Mac OS running on his pc via Ubuntu.
Very cool.


Just did some research and I guess it wasn't hosting the Mac OS but
had uploaded a series of files to make linux look like the Mac
interface. I'm guessing since Mac apps are built to run on a unix
kernal, that they'd likely behave under linux but I've not
experimented.

That's the sort of thing that'll have to wait for retirement. Maybe
that'll be my lint.

Eisboch[_4_] January 12th 09 08:20 AM

For those who care or wonder about Apple Mac vs Windows PC...
 

"jps" wrote in message
...

Just did some research and I guess it wasn't hosting the Mac OS but
had uploaded a series of files to make linux look like the Mac
interface. I'm guessing since Mac apps are built to run on a unix
kernal, that they'd likely behave under linux but I've not
experimented.

That's the sort of thing that'll have to wait for retirement. Maybe
that'll be my lint.




Don't count on it. If you are like many, here's the phases of retirement
adjustments.

Phase I

Guilt. You wake up every morning at the same time as when you were working
60-80 hrs a week and after performing the three "S"'so , you realize you
have nowhere to go. You start contacting your former associates to make
sure everything at the company is ok. As time goes on and you realize the
company is surviving fine without you, another sense of guilt starts to
creep in. What's your purpose now?

For me, this phase lasted the better part of 3 years.


Phase II

You start to relax a bit. The gain level of working and/or running your
business has been turned down considerably. You start to realize that
there's more to life than being consumed with a business that frankly was
turning into re-runs of past experiences. You start to become out of date
with respect to current technology and you really don't care. Your hair, if
you have any, gets longer.

Occasionally new business ideas enter your head but are quickly squashed
when you start thinking of all the start-up issues involved. You start
exploring and doing things that you never had time to do before.


Phase III

You discover the properties of clothes dryer lint.

Eisboch


jps January 12th 09 09:02 AM

For those who care or wonder about Apple Mac vs Windows PC...
 
On Mon, 12 Jan 2009 03:20:25 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote:


"jps" wrote in message
.. .

Just did some research and I guess it wasn't hosting the Mac OS but
had uploaded a series of files to make linux look like the Mac
interface. I'm guessing since Mac apps are built to run on a unix
kernal, that they'd likely behave under linux but I've not
experimented.

That's the sort of thing that'll have to wait for retirement. Maybe
that'll be my lint.




Don't count on it. If you are like many, here's the phases of retirement
adjustments.

Phase I

Guilt. You wake up every morning at the same time as when you were working
60-80 hrs a week and after performing the three "S"'so , you realize you
have nowhere to go. You start contacting your former associates to make
sure everything at the company is ok. As time goes on and you realize the
company is surviving fine without you, another sense of guilt starts to
creep in. What's your purpose now?

For me, this phase lasted the better part of 3 years.


Phase II

You start to relax a bit. The gain level of working and/or running your
business has been turned down considerably. You start to realize that
there's more to life than being consumed with a business that frankly was
turning into re-runs of past experiences. You start to become out of date
with respect to current technology and you really don't care. Your hair, if
you have any, gets longer.

Occasionally new business ideas enter your head but are quickly squashed
when you start thinking of all the start-up issues involved. You start
exploring and doing things that you never had time to do before.


Phase III

You discover the properties of clothes dryer lint.

Eisboch


Makes sense. Phase III made me laugh. The upside down hockey stick
graph.

I'll be lucky to retire. As it stands right now, the plan is to go
directly from retirement to assisted living.

You might consider mentoring guys like me who are making the mistakes
you learned to avoid. May keep that graph from turning south too
quickly and help some of those entrepreneurs who our country will
depend on for new jobs and tax revenue.

Bush 41's estimate of a thousand points of light needs to be shifted
upwards by an order of magnitude.

hk January 12th 09 11:40 AM

For those who care or wonder about Apple Mac vs Windows PC...
 
jps wrote:
On Sun, 11 Jan 2009 17:12:28 -0500, hk wrote:

Well, they both work very well, and as far as I am concerned, it is a
half dozen of one and six of the other.

The Apple Mac OS is a little more to my liking, now that I am sort of
used to it, but there are still areas where I think the Apple system is
just too cute. Also, there is some software, not much of it, that is
important to me and only runs on a PC and may not like running under an
emulator.

So, after I got my Mac, I installed in turn the two major PC emulator
suites that run on a Mac as virtual machines. Both work OK, and I tended
to like VMware Fusion a bit better. But while in emulator mode, there
were still one or two programs that simply would not work on an emulated
PC.

Last week, a buddy who runs the same software suggested I dump the
emulators and run Apple's Boot Camp. I did. Now, I boot up my Mac in
either Apple Mac OS or MS Vista, and while in VISTA everything I need to
work works just fine. Eureka, as Sarah Palin's great-great grandfather,
Thomas Edison, used to exclaim.

There's no real downside to Boot Camp that I have noticed so far. I know
there are some PC few apps that may cause it trouble, but I am not
running any. All the hardware works fine. And to reboot in Vista takes
no longer than starting up one of the emulators and then XP or VISTA.
Shutting down VISTA in Boot Camp is faster than shutting down the emulators.

VISTA runs like greased lightning in Boot Camp. Got a 5.+ in the built
in ratings.

So, if you are thinking of moving to a Mac and have PC software you
need, the chances are it will run ok in Windows under Boot Camp. The
Apple site has knowledge base articles on what software is troublesome.

Sometime this month, my new Mac desktop will be up and running and my
last PC desktop will be running server software.


I have an older 20" G5 the kids use so can't use Boot Camp. Wish I
could. Nothing but PCs in the rest of the house.

My first computer was a "Fat" Mac in 1984, one floppy drive, no HD.
Several months later I upgraded to the external floppy drive. It's
incredible what's happened in 25 years.

A friend recently showed me the Mac OS running on his pc via Ubuntu.
Very cool.


You sure it was the Mac OS and not a tricked up Linux "face"?

I've got a half dozen apps that run well on PCs but so far as I can tell
have no real Mac alternatives. So, that's why I installed a fresh
version of VISTA on my Mac. When I am running VISTA under Boot Camp, it
is (or seems as it is) exactly like running VISTA alone. There are a
couple of keyboard combos that are different, but everything else is
nominal, so far.

Jim January 12th 09 12:21 PM

For those who care or wonder about Apple Mac vs Windows PC...
 
jps wrote:
On Mon, 12 Jan 2009 03:20:25 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote:


Phase I

Guilt. You wake up every morning at the same time as when you were working
60-80 hrs a week and after performing the three "S"'so , you realize you
have nowhere to go. You start contacting your former associates to make
sure everything at the company is ok. As time goes on and you realize the
company is surviving fine without you, another sense of guilt starts to
creep in. What's your purpose now?

You might consider mentoring guys like me who are making the mistakes
you learned to avoid. May keep that graph from turning south too
quickly and help some of those entrepreneurs who our country will
depend on for new jobs and tax revenue.


SBAs have volunteers that do just what you are suggesting. There is
pleanty of private money around to get small companies on their feet and
keep them running. Careful investing by successful entrepreneurs will
help small and large businesses more than any mismanaged government
program. You guys keep talkng. I think you are heading in the right
direction.

John H[_8_] January 12th 09 12:46 PM

For those who care or wonder about Apple Mac vs Windows PC...
 
On Mon, 12 Jan 2009 01:02:02 -0800, jps wrote:

On Mon, 12 Jan 2009 03:20:25 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote:


"jps" wrote in message
. ..

Just did some research and I guess it wasn't hosting the Mac OS but
had uploaded a series of files to make linux look like the Mac
interface. I'm guessing since Mac apps are built to run on a unix
kernal, that they'd likely behave under linux but I've not
experimented.

That's the sort of thing that'll have to wait for retirement. Maybe
that'll be my lint.




Don't count on it. If you are like many, here's the phases of retirement
adjustments.

Phase I

Guilt. You wake up every morning at the same time as when you were working
60-80 hrs a week and after performing the three "S"'so , you realize you
have nowhere to go. You start contacting your former associates to make
sure everything at the company is ok. As time goes on and you realize the
company is surviving fine without you, another sense of guilt starts to
creep in. What's your purpose now?

For me, this phase lasted the better part of 3 years.


Phase II

You start to relax a bit. The gain level of working and/or running your
business has been turned down considerably. You start to realize that
there's more to life than being consumed with a business that frankly was
turning into re-runs of past experiences. You start to become out of date
with respect to current technology and you really don't care. Your hair, if
you have any, gets longer.

Occasionally new business ideas enter your head but are quickly squashed
when you start thinking of all the start-up issues involved. You start
exploring and doing things that you never had time to do before.


Phase III

You discover the properties of clothes dryer lint.

Eisboch


Makes sense. Phase III made me laugh. The upside down hockey stick
graph.

I'll be lucky to retire. As it stands right now, the plan is to go
directly from retirement to assisted living.

You might consider mentoring guys like me who are making the mistakes
you learned to avoid. May keep that graph from turning south too
quickly and help some of those entrepreneurs who our country will
depend on for new jobs and tax revenue.

Bush 41's estimate of a thousand points of light needs to be shifted
upwards by an order of magnitude.


From looking at the times of your posts, I'd think both you and Eisboch are
suited to be night watchmen somewhere!

I went through I and II like Eisboch. Fishing became a challenge for a few
years, but then my neighbor got me hooked on golf.

Find something to do that's a challenge. That's my advice.

Reading Harry's stuff without puking is challenging.

Jim January 12th 09 12:52 PM

For those who care or wonder about Apple Mac vs Windows PC...
 
John H wrote:


Reading Harry's stuff without puking is challenging.


Eisboch suggests taking a few Tums.

I suggest just skimming over his posts to see which lie he is
regurgitating.
Then add the appropriate helpful comment.




Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq.[_4_] January 12th 09 02:36 PM

For those who care or wonder about Apple Mac vs Windows PC...
 
hk wrote:
jps wrote:
On Sun, 11 Jan 2009 17:12:28 -0500, hk wrote:

Well, they both work very well, and as far as I am concerned, it is a
half dozen of one and six of the other.


I really can't figure out why someone would pay close to double the cost
for a MAC laptop, if it was half dozen of one, or six of the other.

From the initial reports of Windows 7, it looks like Windows 7 will be
everything Microsoft was hoping for in Vista.

I have read that some people state it actually runs faster than XP.

Don White January 12th 09 02:48 PM

For those who care or wonder about Apple Mac vs Windows PC...
 

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"jps" wrote in message
...

Just did some research and I guess it wasn't hosting the Mac OS but
had uploaded a series of files to make linux look like the Mac
interface. I'm guessing since Mac apps are built to run on a unix
kernal, that they'd likely behave under linux but I've not
experimented.

That's the sort of thing that'll have to wait for retirement. Maybe
that'll be my lint.




Don't count on it. If you are like many, here's the phases of retirement
adjustments.

Phase I

Guilt. You wake up every morning at the same time as when you were
working 60-80 hrs a week and after performing the three "S"'so , you
realize you have nowhere to go. You start contacting your former
associates to make sure everything at the company is ok. As time goes on
and you realize the company is surviving fine without you, another sense
of guilt starts to creep in. What's your purpose now?

For me, this phase lasted the better part of 3 years.


Phase II

You start to relax a bit. The gain level of working and/or running your
business has been turned down considerably. You start to realize that
there's more to life than being consumed with a business that frankly was
turning into re-runs of past experiences. You start to become out of date
with respect to current technology and you really don't care. Your hair,
if you have any, gets longer.

Occasionally new business ideas enter your head but are quickly squashed
when you start thinking of all the start-up issues involved. You start
exploring and doing things that you never had time to do before.


Phase III

You discover the properties of clothes dryer lint.

Eisboch


Our big project last week was introducing our Springer Spaniel to the
threadmill.
Now when the weather is too bad to drive to the park... he will still get
his exercise. He's a bit reluctant, but is catching on pretty good.



hk January 12th 09 02:54 PM

For those who care or wonder about Apple Mac vs Windows PC...
 
Don White wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message
...
"jps" wrote in message
...
Just did some research and I guess it wasn't hosting the Mac OS but
had uploaded a series of files to make linux look like the Mac
interface. I'm guessing since Mac apps are built to run on a unix
kernal, that they'd likely behave under linux but I've not
experimented.

That's the sort of thing that'll have to wait for retirement. Maybe
that'll be my lint.



Don't count on it. If you are like many, here's the phases of retirement
adjustments.

Phase I

Guilt. You wake up every morning at the same time as when you were
working 60-80 hrs a week and after performing the three "S"'so , you
realize you have nowhere to go. You start contacting your former
associates to make sure everything at the company is ok. As time goes on
and you realize the company is surviving fine without you, another sense
of guilt starts to creep in. What's your purpose now?

For me, this phase lasted the better part of 3 years.


Phase II

You start to relax a bit. The gain level of working and/or running your
business has been turned down considerably. You start to realize that
there's more to life than being consumed with a business that frankly was
turning into re-runs of past experiences. You start to become out of date
with respect to current technology and you really don't care. Your hair,
if you have any, gets longer.

Occasionally new business ideas enter your head but are quickly squashed
when you start thinking of all the start-up issues involved. You start
exploring and doing things that you never had time to do before.


Phase III

You discover the properties of clothes dryer lint.

Eisboch


Our big project last week was introducing our Springer Spaniel to the
threadmill.
Now when the weather is too bad to drive to the park... he will still get
his exercise. He's a bit reluctant, but is catching on pretty good.



I tried that with my wife's cat, who is a tad overweight. Tried it six
times. Cat just sat down and waited until the belt got to the back of
the device and fell off. Six times.


thunder January 12th 09 03:13 PM

For those who care or wonder about Apple Mac vs Windows PC...
 
On Mon, 12 Jan 2009 09:36:38 -0500, Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:

From the initial reports of Windows 7, it looks like Windows 7 will be
everything Microsoft was hoping for in Vista.


Yeah, every new Windows product is the best ever. I don't know how I've
lived without it, or any Windows product for that matter. ;-)

Eisboch[_4_] January 12th 09 03:35 PM

For those who care or wonder about Apple Mac vs Windows PC...
 

"Don White" wrote in message
...

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"jps" wrote in message
...

Just did some research and I guess it wasn't hosting the Mac OS but
had uploaded a series of files to make linux look like the Mac
interface. I'm guessing since Mac apps are built to run on a unix
kernal, that they'd likely behave under linux but I've not
experimented.

That's the sort of thing that'll have to wait for retirement. Maybe
that'll be my lint.




Don't count on it. If you are like many, here's the phases of retirement
adjustments.

Phase I

Guilt. You wake up every morning at the same time as when you were
working 60-80 hrs a week and after performing the three "S"'so , you
realize you have nowhere to go. You start contacting your former
associates to make sure everything at the company is ok. As time goes on
and you realize the company is surviving fine without you, another sense
of guilt starts to creep in. What's your purpose now?

For me, this phase lasted the better part of 3 years.


Phase II

You start to relax a bit. The gain level of working and/or running your
business has been turned down considerably. You start to realize that
there's more to life than being consumed with a business that frankly was
turning into re-runs of past experiences. You start to become out of
date with respect to current technology and you really don't care. Your
hair, if you have any, gets longer.

Occasionally new business ideas enter your head but are quickly squashed
when you start thinking of all the start-up issues involved. You start
exploring and doing things that you never had time to do before.


Phase III

You discover the properties of clothes dryer lint.

Eisboch


Our big project last week was introducing our Springer Spaniel to the
threadmill.
Now when the weather is too bad to drive to the park... he will still get
his exercise. He's a bit reluctant, but is catching on pretty good.


My son and d-i-l's dog "Brandy" is one of Sam Adams' sisters. She loves
the treadmill.
I tried to introduce Sam to ours. He just sat there with a stupid look on
his face, like,
"are you ****ting me?"

Eisboch


Boater[_4_] January 12th 09 03:49 PM

For those who care or wonder about Apple Mac vs Windows PC...
 
thunder wrote:
On Mon, 12 Jan 2009 09:36:38 -0500, Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:

From the initial reports of Windows 7, it looks like Windows 7 will be
everything Microsoft was hoping for in Vista.


Yeah, every new Windows product is the best ever. I don't know how I've
lived without it, or any Windows product for that matter. ;-)



I like doing business with Apple. If I have a serious question I cannot
get answered easily on line, I just contact my Apple store and either
get help over the phone directly or pop in the store when I am up at the
mall. With guys who speak English.

I also like the Apple packaging for new machines. Very very few options,
or choices to make, except for the big Mac Pro, because the computers
are complete as they come in the box. All I did with my laptop is add
two gigs of Ram, and that took about five minutes.


RLM January 12th 09 05:15 PM

For those who care or wonder about Apple Mac vs Windows PC...
 
On Mon, 12 Jan 2009 09:13:45 -0600, thunder wrote:

On Mon, 12 Jan 2009 09:36:38 -0500, Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:

From the initial reports of Windows 7, it looks like Windows 7 will be
everything Microsoft was hoping for in Vista.


Yeah, every new Windows product is the best ever. I don't know how I've
lived without it, or any Windows product for that matter. ;-)


I know how you've lived without it. The one you use is patched before you
know that it could have broke. That's the way mine works.


D K[_3_] January 13th 09 01:38 AM

For those who care or wonder about Apple Mac vs Windows PC...
 
Don White wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message
...
"jps" wrote in message
...
Just did some research and I guess it wasn't hosting the Mac OS but
had uploaded a series of files to make linux look like the Mac
interface. I'm guessing since Mac apps are built to run on a unix
kernal, that they'd likely behave under linux but I've not
experimented.

That's the sort of thing that'll have to wait for retirement. Maybe
that'll be my lint.



Don't count on it. If you are like many, here's the phases of retirement
adjustments.

Phase I

Guilt. You wake up every morning at the same time as when you were
working 60-80 hrs a week and after performing the three "S"'so , you
realize you have nowhere to go. You start contacting your former
associates to make sure everything at the company is ok. As time goes on
and you realize the company is surviving fine without you, another sense
of guilt starts to creep in. What's your purpose now?

For me, this phase lasted the better part of 3 years.


Phase II

You start to relax a bit. The gain level of working and/or running your
business has been turned down considerably. You start to realize that
there's more to life than being consumed with a business that frankly was
turning into re-runs of past experiences. You start to become out of date
with respect to current technology and you really don't care. Your hair,
if you have any, gets longer.

Occasionally new business ideas enter your head but are quickly squashed
when you start thinking of all the start-up issues involved. You start
exploring and doing things that you never had time to do before.


Phase III

You discover the properties of clothes dryer lint.

Eisboch


Our big project last week was introducing our Springer Spaniel to the
threadmill.
Now when the weather is too bad to drive to the park... he will still get
his exercise. He's a bit reluctant, but is catching on pretty good.



What's a "threadmill"? Are you using you dog to make textiles?

BAR[_3_] January 13th 09 01:48 AM

For those who care or wonder about Apple Mac vs Windows PC...
 
Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:
hk wrote:
jps wrote:
On Sun, 11 Jan 2009 17:12:28 -0500, hk wrote:

Well, they both work very well, and as far as I am concerned, it is
a half dozen of one and six of the other.


I really can't figure out why someone would pay close to double the cost
for a MAC laptop, if it was half dozen of one, or six of the other.

From the initial reports of Windows 7, it looks like Windows 7 will be
everything Microsoft was hoping for in Vista.

I have read that some people state it actually runs faster than XP.


Bought my daughter a Dell Inspiron 1525 with a Dual Core 2GHz CPU 3GB
RAM 160GB HD laptop for $459 just before Christmas. It has Vista Home
Premium runs well.

BAR[_3_] January 13th 09 01:50 AM

For those who care or wonder about Apple Mac vs Windows PC...
 
hk wrote:
Don White wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message
...
"jps" wrote in message
...
Just did some research and I guess it wasn't hosting the Mac OS but
had uploaded a series of files to make linux look like the Mac
interface. I'm guessing since Mac apps are built to run on a unix
kernal, that they'd likely behave under linux but I've not
experimented.

That's the sort of thing that'll have to wait for retirement. Maybe
that'll be my lint.


Don't count on it. If you are like many, here's the phases of
retirement adjustments.

Phase I

Guilt. You wake up every morning at the same time as when you were
working 60-80 hrs a week and after performing the three "S"'so , you
realize you have nowhere to go. You start contacting your former
associates to make sure everything at the company is ok. As time
goes on and you realize the company is surviving fine without you,
another sense of guilt starts to creep in. What's your purpose now?

For me, this phase lasted the better part of 3 years.


Phase II

You start to relax a bit. The gain level of working and/or running
your business has been turned down considerably. You start to
realize that there's more to life than being consumed with a business
that frankly was turning into re-runs of past experiences. You start
to become out of date with respect to current technology and you
really don't care. Your hair, if you have any, gets longer.

Occasionally new business ideas enter your head but are quickly
squashed when you start thinking of all the start-up issues
involved. You start exploring and doing things that you never had
time to do before.


Phase III

You discover the properties of clothes dryer lint.

Eisboch


Our big project last week was introducing our Springer Spaniel to the
threadmill.
Now when the weather is too bad to drive to the park... he will still
get his exercise. He's a bit reluctant, but is catching on pretty good.


I tried that with my wife's cat, who is a tad overweight. Tried it six
times. Cat just sat down and waited until the belt got to the back of
the device and fell off. Six times.


Are you kidding me? Putting a cat or dog on a treadmill? Just feed them
less. Saves you money.


BAR[_3_] January 13th 09 01:51 AM

For those who care or wonder about Apple Mac vs Windows PC...
 
Boater wrote:
thunder wrote:
On Mon, 12 Jan 2009 09:36:38 -0500, Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:

From the initial reports of Windows 7, it looks like Windows 7 will be
everything Microsoft was hoping for in Vista.


Yeah, every new Windows product is the best ever. I don't know how
I've lived without it, or any Windows product for that matter. ;-)



I like doing business with Apple. If I have a serious question I cannot
get answered easily on line, I just contact my Apple store and either
get help over the phone directly or pop in the store when I am up at the
mall. With guys who speak English.

I also like the Apple packaging for new machines. Very very few options,
or choices to make, except for the big Mac Pro, because the computers
are complete as they come in the box. All I did with my laptop is add
two gigs of Ram, and that took about five minutes.


The term you are looking for is idiot proof. Mac owners need idiot proof
configurations.

Don White January 13th 09 03:34 AM

For those who care or wonder about Apple Mac vs Windows PC...
 

"BAR" wrote in message
...
hk wrote:
Don White wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message
...
"jps" wrote in message
...
Just did some research and I guess it wasn't hosting the Mac OS but
had uploaded a series of files to make linux look like the Mac
interface. I'm guessing since Mac apps are built to run on a unix
kernal, that they'd likely behave under linux but I've not
experimented.

That's the sort of thing that'll have to wait for retirement. Maybe
that'll be my lint.


Don't count on it. If you are like many, here's the phases of
retirement adjustments.

Phase I

Guilt. You wake up every morning at the same time as when you were
working 60-80 hrs a week and after performing the three "S"'so , you
realize you have nowhere to go. You start contacting your former
associates to make sure everything at the company is ok. As time goes
on and you realize the company is surviving fine without you, another
sense of guilt starts to creep in. What's your purpose now?

For me, this phase lasted the better part of 3 years.


Phase II

You start to relax a bit. The gain level of working and/or running
your business has been turned down considerably. You start to realize
that there's more to life than being consumed with a business that
frankly was turning into re-runs of past experiences. You start to
become out of date with respect to current technology and you really
don't care. Your hair, if you have any, gets longer.

Occasionally new business ideas enter your head but are quickly
squashed when you start thinking of all the start-up issues involved.
You start exploring and doing things that you never had time to do
before.


Phase III

You discover the properties of clothes dryer lint.

Eisboch

Our big project last week was introducing our Springer Spaniel to the
threadmill.
Now when the weather is too bad to drive to the park... he will still
get his exercise. He's a bit reluctant, but is catching on pretty good.


I tried that with my wife's cat, who is a tad overweight. Tried it six
times. Cat just sat down and waited until the belt got to the back of the
device and fell off. Six times.


Are you kidding me? Putting a cat or dog on a treadmill? Just feed them
less. Saves you money.


Guess you don't watch 'The Dog Whisperer'.
http://www.cesarmillaninc.com/



BAR[_3_] January 13th 09 03:53 AM

For those who care or wonder about Apple Mac vs Windows PC...
 
Don White wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message
...
hk wrote:
Don White wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message
...
"jps" wrote in message
...
Just did some research and I guess it wasn't hosting the Mac OS but
had uploaded a series of files to make linux look like the Mac
interface. I'm guessing since Mac apps are built to run on a unix
kernal, that they'd likely behave under linux but I've not
experimented.

That's the sort of thing that'll have to wait for retirement. Maybe
that'll be my lint.

Don't count on it. If you are like many, here's the phases of
retirement adjustments.

Phase I

Guilt. You wake up every morning at the same time as when you were
working 60-80 hrs a week and after performing the three "S"'so , you
realize you have nowhere to go. You start contacting your former
associates to make sure everything at the company is ok. As time goes
on and you realize the company is surviving fine without you, another
sense of guilt starts to creep in. What's your purpose now?

For me, this phase lasted the better part of 3 years.


Phase II

You start to relax a bit. The gain level of working and/or running
your business has been turned down considerably. You start to realize
that there's more to life than being consumed with a business that
frankly was turning into re-runs of past experiences. You start to
become out of date with respect to current technology and you really
don't care. Your hair, if you have any, gets longer.

Occasionally new business ideas enter your head but are quickly
squashed when you start thinking of all the start-up issues involved.
You start exploring and doing things that you never had time to do
before.


Phase III

You discover the properties of clothes dryer lint.

Eisboch
Our big project last week was introducing our Springer Spaniel to the
threadmill.
Now when the weather is too bad to drive to the park... he will still
get his exercise. He's a bit reluctant, but is catching on pretty good.

I tried that with my wife's cat, who is a tad overweight. Tried it six
times. Cat just sat down and waited until the belt got to the back of the
device and fell off. Six times.

Are you kidding me? Putting a cat or dog on a treadmill? Just feed them
less. Saves you money.


Guess you don't watch 'The Dog Whisperer'.
http://www.cesarmillaninc.com/


Ah, no.

I have my wife take the dogs on a walk every day. Keeps the dogs in
shape and the wife in shape.

Don White January 13th 09 01:41 PM

For those who care or wonder about Apple Mac vs Windows PC...
 

"BAR" wrote in message
...
Don White wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message
...
hk wrote:
Don White wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message
...
"jps" wrote in message
...
Just did some research and I guess it wasn't hosting the Mac OS but
had uploaded a series of files to make linux look like the Mac
interface. I'm guessing since Mac apps are built to run on a unix
kernal, that they'd likely behave under linux but I've not
experimented.

That's the sort of thing that'll have to wait for retirement. Maybe
that'll be my lint.

Don't count on it. If you are like many, here's the phases of
retirement adjustments.

Phase I

Guilt. You wake up every morning at the same time as when you were
working 60-80 hrs a week and after performing the three "S"'so , you
realize you have nowhere to go. You start contacting your former
associates to make sure everything at the company is ok. As time
goes on and you realize the company is surviving fine without you,
another sense of guilt starts to creep in. What's your purpose now?

For me, this phase lasted the better part of 3 years.


Phase II

You start to relax a bit. The gain level of working and/or running
your business has been turned down considerably. You start to
realize that there's more to life than being consumed with a business
that frankly was turning into re-runs of past experiences. You start
to become out of date with respect to current technology and you
really don't care. Your hair, if you have any, gets longer.

Occasionally new business ideas enter your head but are quickly
squashed when you start thinking of all the start-up issues involved.
You start exploring and doing things that you never had time to do
before.


Phase III

You discover the properties of clothes dryer lint.

Eisboch
Our big project last week was introducing our Springer Spaniel to the
threadmill.
Now when the weather is too bad to drive to the park... he will still
get his exercise. He's a bit reluctant, but is catching on pretty
good.

I tried that with my wife's cat, who is a tad overweight. Tried it six
times. Cat just sat down and waited until the belt got to the back of
the device and fell off. Six times.

Are you kidding me? Putting a cat or dog on a treadmill? Just feed them
less. Saves you money.


Guess you don't watch 'The Dog Whisperer'. http://www.cesarmillaninc.com/


Ah, no.

I have my wife take the dogs on a walk every day. Keeps the dogs in shape
and the wife in shape.


Our dog is a young sporting type. he needs more than 'walks'........ (of
which he gets 4 or 5 a day in the neighbourhood).



hk January 13th 09 01:50 PM

For those who care or wonder about Apple Mac vs Windows PC...
 
Don White wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message
...
Don White wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message
...
hk wrote:
Don White wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message
...
"jps" wrote in message
...
Just did some research and I guess it wasn't hosting the Mac OS but
had uploaded a series of files to make linux look like the Mac
interface. I'm guessing since Mac apps are built to run on a unix
kernal, that they'd likely behave under linux but I've not
experimented.

That's the sort of thing that'll have to wait for retirement. Maybe
that'll be my lint.
Don't count on it. If you are like many, here's the phases of
retirement adjustments.

Phase I

Guilt. You wake up every morning at the same time as when you were
working 60-80 hrs a week and after performing the three "S"'so , you
realize you have nowhere to go. You start contacting your former
associates to make sure everything at the company is ok. As time
goes on and you realize the company is surviving fine without you,
another sense of guilt starts to creep in. What's your purpose now?

For me, this phase lasted the better part of 3 years.


Phase II

You start to relax a bit. The gain level of working and/or running
your business has been turned down considerably. You start to
realize that there's more to life than being consumed with a business
that frankly was turning into re-runs of past experiences. You start
to become out of date with respect to current technology and you
really don't care. Your hair, if you have any, gets longer.

Occasionally new business ideas enter your head but are quickly
squashed when you start thinking of all the start-up issues involved.
You start exploring and doing things that you never had time to do
before.


Phase III

You discover the properties of clothes dryer lint.

Eisboch
Our big project last week was introducing our Springer Spaniel to the
threadmill.
Now when the weather is too bad to drive to the park... he will still
get his exercise. He's a bit reluctant, but is catching on pretty
good.

I tried that with my wife's cat, who is a tad overweight. Tried it six
times. Cat just sat down and waited until the belt got to the back of
the device and fell off. Six times.

Are you kidding me? Putting a cat or dog on a treadmill? Just feed them
less. Saves you money.

Guess you don't watch 'The Dog Whisperer'. http://www.cesarmillaninc.com/

Ah, no.

I have my wife take the dogs on a walk every day. Keeps the dogs in shape
and the wife in shape.


Our dog is a young sporting type. he needs more than 'walks'........ (of
which he gets 4 or 5 a day in the neighbourhood).



Our youngest cat used to hang out with the raccoons in the forest. I
think they thought he was one of them. They never fought. When just a
kitten, the cat would come by and wait at the edge of the back yard and
the forest. If I saw him, I'd put out some food, which of course is why
he showed up. Gorgeous little Maine coon cat. One day, I put out my
small animal trap, baited it with a can of sardines, and watched. He
literally walked around the trap a half dozen times, and then decided
the sardines were too good a treat to resist. Wham-o! Next thing he
knew, he was on his way to the vet for a check-up and shots, and to make
sure he did not have feline leukemia. He got a clean bill of health.

Now he gets his exercise running like a banshee around the house. If I
open a door to go outside, he runs in the opposite direction. No fool he.


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