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Tim January 10th 09 01:00 AM

Chavez needs some new friends.
 
http://abcnews.go.com/Business/Econo...6589473&page=1

Looks like due to low oil prices, Chavez is going to quit giving away
discount heating oil to low income people ,then after a couple days he
keeps the program running.



CUT 'N PASTE:

"He's just running out of money," said Mark Falcoff, a Latin America
expert at the American Enterprise Institute, a conservative Washington
think tank. "He needs that money to buy friends in Latin America as
part of his attempt to expand his influence. But as we Americans know
better than anybody, you can't really buy friends, you can only rent
them." ...

"Obviously, he's a lot more magnanimous when oil prices are at $100 a
barrel than when it is at $40 a barrel," said Phil Flynn, a vice
president and analyst with Alaron Trading. "Chavez's entire reign and
popularity really has been built upon high oil prices and his using of
the country's oil profits to further his political agenda."

END CUT 'N PASTE

BAR[_3_] January 10th 09 01:42 AM

Chavez needs some new friends.
 
Tim wrote:
http://abcnews.go.com/Business/Econo...6589473&page=1

Looks like due to low oil prices, Chavez is going to quit giving away
discount heating oil to low income people ,then after a couple days he
keeps the program running.



CUT 'N PASTE:

"He's just running out of money," said Mark Falcoff, a Latin America
expert at the American Enterprise Institute, a conservative Washington
think tank. "He needs that money to buy friends in Latin America as
part of his attempt to expand his influence. But as we Americans know
better than anybody, you can't really buy friends, you can only rent
them." ...

"Obviously, he's a lot more magnanimous when oil prices are at $100 a
barrel than when it is at $40 a barrel," said Phil Flynn, a vice
president and analyst with Alaron Trading. "Chavez's entire reign and
popularity really has been built upon high oil prices and his using of
the country's oil profits to further his political agenda."

END CUT 'N PASTE


And they say capitalism is dead.

[email protected] January 10th 09 02:15 AM

Chavez needs some new friends.
 
On Fri, 09 Jan 2009 17:00:01 -0800, Tim wrote:

http://abcnews.go.com/Business/Econo...6589473&page=1

Looks like due to low oil prices, Chavez is going to quit giving away
discount heating oil to low income people ,then after a couple days he
keeps the program running.



CUT 'N PASTE:

"He's just running out of money," said Mark Falcoff, a Latin America
expert at the American Enterprise Institute, a conservative Washington
think tank. "He needs that money to buy friends in Latin America as part
of his attempt to expand his influence. But as we Americans know better
than anybody, you can't really buy friends, you can only rent them." ...

"Obviously, he's a lot more magnanimous when oil prices are at $100 a
barrel than when it is at $40 a barrel," said Phil Flynn, a vice
president and analyst with Alaron Trading. "Chavez's entire reign and
popularity really has been built upon high oil prices and his using of
the country's oil profits to further his political agenda."

END CUT 'N PASTE


Some expert. Chavez has been in power since 1998. Want to guess what
oil prices were then? You may not like him. I don't particularly, but
he has won 3 elections. Somebody must like him.

[email protected] January 10th 09 02:19 AM

Chavez needs some new friends.
 
On Jan 9, 8:15*pm, wrote:
On Fri, 09 Jan 2009 17:00:01 -0800, Tim wrote:
http://abcnews.go.com/Business/Econo...6589473&page=1


Looks like due to low oil prices, Chavez is going to quit giving away
discount heating oil to low income people ,then after a couple days he
keeps the program running.


CUT 'N PASTE:


"He's just running out of money," said Mark Falcoff, a Latin America
expert at the American Enterprise Institute, a conservative Washington
think tank. "He needs that money to buy friends in Latin America as part
of his attempt to expand his influence. But as we Americans know better
than anybody, you can't really buy friends, you can only rent them." ....


"Obviously, he's a lot more magnanimous when oil prices are at $100 a
barrel than when it is at $40 a barrel," said Phil Flynn, a vice
president and analyst with Alaron Trading. "Chavez's entire reign and
popularity really has been built upon high oil prices and his using of
the country's oil profits to further his political agenda."


END CUT 'N PASTE


Some expert. *Chavez has been in power since 1998. *Want to guess what
oil prices were then? *You may not like him. *I don't particularly, but
he has won 3 elections. *Somebody must like him.


It's easy to win an election when your opponents are totally
powerless.

Or dead.

[email protected] January 10th 09 02:36 AM

Chavez needs some new friends.
 
On Fri, 09 Jan 2009 18:19:50 -0800, topbassdog wrote:


Some expert. Â*Chavez has been in power since 1998. Â*Want to guess what
oil prices were then? Â*You may not like him. Â*I don't particularly, but
he has won 3 elections. Â*Somebody must like him.


It's easy to win an election when your opponents are totally powerless.

Or dead.


Huh? His opponents are the Venezuelan fat cats, and landed gentry,
hardly powerless. However, they lost at the polls. Chavez has won three
elections with an average of 60% of the vote. As I said, I don't
particularly care for the man. Although, I do enjoy how he is able to
tweak the nose of our current President.

BAR[_3_] January 10th 09 02:48 AM

Chavez needs some new friends.
 
wrote:
On Fri, 09 Jan 2009 18:19:50 -0800, topbassdog wrote:


Some expert. Chavez has been in power since 1998. Want to guess what
oil prices were then? You may not like him. I don't particularly, but
he has won 3 elections. Somebody must like him.

It's easy to win an election when your opponents are totally powerless.

Or dead.


Huh? His opponents are the Venezuelan fat cats, and landed gentry,
hardly powerless. However, they lost at the polls. Chavez has won three
elections with an average of 60% of the vote. As I said, I don't
particularly care for the man. Although, I do enjoy how he is able to
tweak the nose of our current President.


Unless the new President embraces Hugo and Raul, Fidel's little brother,
he will end up getting his nose tweaked too.


[email protected] January 10th 09 03:00 AM

Chavez needs some new friends.
 
On Jan 9, 8:36*pm, wrote:
On Fri, 09 Jan 2009 18:19:50 -0800, topbassdog wrote:
Some expert. *Chavez has been in power since 1998. *Want to guess what
oil prices were then? *You may not like him. *I don't particularly, but
he has won 3 elections. *Somebody must like him.


It's easy to win an election when your opponents are totally powerless.


Or dead.


Huh? *His opponents are the Venezuelan fat cats, and landed gentry,
hardly powerless. *However, they lost at the polls. *Chavez has won three
elections with an average of 60% of the vote. *As I said, I don't
particularly care for the man. *Although, I do enjoy how he is able to
tweak the nose of our current President. *


With no disrespect. Chavez is still a two-bit dictator. I would say
that his *fat cat* opponents are under his ownership or possibly his
fist.

Leopoldo Lopez may have beaten Chavez at the polls and won this past
election. However ,Chavez had him banned, due to charges of
corruption, even though no evidence was of corruption were found.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...elections.html

Concerning Hugo's *tweaking* of your President.
Personally, I'm not very concerned how he's *tweaked* the current
administration, but rather how he will tweak the next.

MMC January 10th 09 04:41 AM

Chavez needs some new friends.
 

"BAR" wrote in message
...
wrote:
On Fri, 09 Jan 2009 18:19:50 -0800, topbassdog wrote:


Some expert. Chavez has been in power since 1998. Want to guess what
oil prices were then? You may not like him. I don't particularly, but
he has won 3 elections. Somebody must like him.
It's easy to win an election when your opponents are totally powerless.

Or dead.


Huh? His opponents are the Venezuelan fat cats, and landed gentry,
hardly powerless. However, they lost at the polls. Chavez has won three
elections with an average of 60% of the vote. As I said, I don't
particularly care for the man. Although, I do enjoy how he is able to
tweak the nose of our current President.


Unless the new President embraces Hugo and Raul, Fidel's little brother,
he will end up getting his nose tweaked too.

Can anyone give me a decent excuse why we still have the embargo against
Cuba? Because the south florida cubans are a strong voting block and our
politician are **** scared of them? Cause daddy hated them? Cause they're
commies?
The last doesn't hold water with the way we cuddle up to the China.



BAR[_3_] January 10th 09 05:07 AM

Chavez needs some new friends.
 
mmc wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message
...
wrote:
On Fri, 09 Jan 2009 18:19:50 -0800, topbassdog wrote:


Some expert. Chavez has been in power since 1998. Want to guess what
oil prices were then? You may not like him. I don't particularly, but
he has won 3 elections. Somebody must like him.
It's easy to win an election when your opponents are totally powerless.

Or dead.
Huh? His opponents are the Venezuelan fat cats, and landed gentry,
hardly powerless. However, they lost at the polls. Chavez has won three
elections with an average of 60% of the vote. As I said, I don't
particularly care for the man. Although, I do enjoy how he is able to
tweak the nose of our current President.

Unless the new President embraces Hugo and Raul, Fidel's little brother,
he will end up getting his nose tweaked too.

Can anyone give me a decent excuse why we still have the embargo against
Cuba? Because the south florida cubans are a strong voting block and our
politician are **** scared of them? Cause daddy hated them? Cause they're
commies?
The last doesn't hold water with the way we cuddle up to the China.


Yeah, Castro nationalized many US and Cuban owned companies in Cuba.

Tim January 10th 09 01:34 PM

Chavez needs some new friends.
 
On Jan 9, 11:07*pm, BAR wrote:
mmc wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message
...
wrote:
On Fri, 09 Jan 2009 18:19:50 -0800, topbassdog wrote:


Some expert. *Chavez has been in power since 1998. *Want to guess what
oil prices were then? *You may not like him. *I don't particularly, but
he has won 3 elections. *Somebody must like him.
It's easy to win an election when your opponents are totally powerless.


Or dead.
Huh? *His opponents are the Venezuelan fat cats, and landed gentry,
hardly powerless. *However, they lost at the polls. *Chavez has won three
elections with an average of 60% of the vote. *As I said, I don't
particularly care for the man. *Although, I do enjoy how he is able to
tweak the nose of our current President.
Unless the new President embraces Hugo and Raul, Fidel's little brother,
he will end up getting his nose tweaked too.


Can anyone give me a decent excuse why we still have the embargo against
Cuba? Because the south Florida Cubans are a strong voting block and our
politician are **** scared of them? Cause daddy hated them? Cause they're
commies?
The last doesn't hold water with the way we cuddle up to the China.


Yeah, Castro nationalized many US and Cuban owned companies in Cuba.


I wonder if Jeremiah Wright has Spanish translated religious
broadcasting pumped into Venezuela?


Tim January 10th 09 08:44 PM

Chavez needs some new friends.
 
On Jan 10, 12:07*pm, "mmc" wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message

...



mmc wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message
...
wrote:
On Fri, 09 Jan 2009 18:19:50 -0800, topbassdog wrote:


Some expert. *Chavez has been in power since 1998. *Want to guess
what
oil prices were then? *You may not like him. *I don't particularly,
but
he has won 3 elections. *Somebody must like him.
It's easy to win an election when your opponents are totally
powerless.


Or dead.
Huh? *His opponents are the Venezuelan fat cats, and landed gentry,
hardly powerless. *However, they lost at the polls. *Chavez has won
three elections with an average of 60% of the vote. *As I said, I don't
particularly care for the man. *Although, I do enjoy how he is able to
tweak the nose of our current President.
Unless the new President embraces Hugo and Raul, Fidel's little brother,
he will end up getting his nose tweaked too.


Can anyone give me a decent excuse why we still have the embargo against
Cuba? Because the south florida cubans are a strong voting block and our
politician are **** scared of them? Cause daddy hated them? Cause they're
commies?
The last doesn't hold water with the way we cuddle up to the China.


Yeah, Castro nationalized many US and Cuban owned companies in Cuba.


Naw, we've been crapped on worse than that and gone back for more.
I think that if we lifted the embargo and allowed green backs to flood in,
communism would fade away.......


It does seem like money cures a lot of problems.

Canuck57[_6_] January 11th 09 06:05 PM

Chavez needs some new friends.
 

wrote in message
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On Fri, 09 Jan 2009 18:19:50 -0800, topbassdog wrote:


Some expert. Chavez has been in power since 1998. Want to guess what
oil prices were then? You may not like him. I don't particularly, but
he has won 3 elections. Somebody must like him.


It's easy to win an election when your opponents are totally powerless.

Or dead.


Huh? His opponents are the Venezuelan fat cats, and landed gentry,
hardly powerless. However, they lost at the polls. Chavez has won three
elections with an average of 60% of the vote. As I said, I don't
particularly care for the man. Although, I do enjoy how he is able to
tweak the nose of our current President.


Yep, he changed the constitution waving the 2 term rule. He was jailed in
1992 or so for coup d'etat attempt. People are statistically as poor as the
day he started. Makes me wonder where all the cash from oil is really
going? While I hear a gallon of gasoline is cheap, no one in the mainline
society can afford something to burn it with.

The usual, promise lots of socialism, then appologist later with strong arm
tactics and a facade of democracy. Ever listen to him? Comes off like a
raving maniac. While perhaps not as bad as Castro, from the same cloth.

Oh, he does invest in the economy, just enough to keep them educated this
side of being apes and just this side of being starving.



Canuck57[_6_] January 11th 09 06:08 PM

Chavez needs some new friends.
 

"mmc" wrote in message
g.com...

"BAR" wrote in message
...
wrote:
On Fri, 09 Jan 2009 18:19:50 -0800, topbassdog wrote:


Some expert. Chavez has been in power since 1998. Want to guess what
oil prices were then? You may not like him. I don't particularly,
but
he has won 3 elections. Somebody must like him.
It's easy to win an election when your opponents are totally powerless.

Or dead.

Huh? His opponents are the Venezuelan fat cats, and landed gentry,
hardly powerless. However, they lost at the polls. Chavez has won
three elections with an average of 60% of the vote. As I said, I don't
particularly care for the man. Although, I do enjoy how he is able to
tweak the nose of our current President.


Unless the new President embraces Hugo and Raul, Fidel's little brother,
he will end up getting his nose tweaked too.

Can anyone give me a decent excuse why we still have the embargo against
Cuba? Because the south florida cubans are a strong voting block and our
politician are **** scared of them? Cause daddy hated them? Cause they're
commies?
The last doesn't hold water with the way we cuddle up to the China.


They still have not made good on the properties confiscated by Castro.
Democracy is a farce. Why support a dictatorship? While "daddy" hated
them, was not for no reason, Castro was quite willing to put nukes on
Florida's doorstep. Let them stew until they evolve into something better.



Canuck57[_6_] January 11th 09 06:09 PM

Chavez needs some new friends.
 

"mmc" wrote in message
ng.com...

"BAR" wrote in message
...
mmc wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message
...
wrote:
On Fri, 09 Jan 2009 18:19:50 -0800, topbassdog wrote:


Some expert. Chavez has been in power since 1998. Want to guess
what
oil prices were then? You may not like him. I don't particularly,
but
he has won 3 elections. Somebody must like him.
It's easy to win an election when your opponents are totally
powerless.

Or dead.
Huh? His opponents are the Venezuelan fat cats, and landed gentry,
hardly powerless. However, they lost at the polls. Chavez has won
three elections with an average of 60% of the vote. As I said, I
don't particularly care for the man. Although, I do enjoy how he is
able to tweak the nose of our current President.
Unless the new President embraces Hugo and Raul, Fidel's little
brother, he will end up getting his nose tweaked too.

Can anyone give me a decent excuse why we still have the embargo against
Cuba? Because the south florida cubans are a strong voting block and our
politician are **** scared of them? Cause daddy hated them? Cause
they're commies?
The last doesn't hold water with the way we cuddle up to the China.


Yeah, Castro nationalized many US and Cuban owned companies in Cuba.


Naw, we've been crapped on worse than that and gone back for more.
I think that if we lifted the embargo and allowed green backs to flood in,
communism would fade away.......


It didn't in Venezuela.



Canuck57[_6_] January 11th 09 06:11 PM

Chavez needs some new friends.
 

"Tim" wrote in message
...
On Jan 9, 9:00 pm, wrote:
On Jan 9, 8:36 pm, wrote:

On Fri, 09 Jan 2009 18:19:50 -0800, topbassdog wrote:
Some expert. Chavez has been in power since 1998. Want to guess what
oil prices were then? You may not like him. I don't particularly, but
he has won 3 elections. Somebody must like him.


It's easy to win an election when your opponents are totally
powerless.


Or dead.


Huh? His opponents are the Venezuelan fat cats, and landed gentry,
hardly powerless. However, they lost at the polls. Chavez has won three
elections with an average of 60% of the vote. As I said, I don't
particularly care for the man. Although, I do enjoy how he is able to
tweak the nose of our current President.


With no disrespect. Chavez is still a two-bit dictator. I would say
that his *fat cat* opponents are under his ownership or possibly his
fist.

Leopoldo Lopez may have beaten Chavez at the polls and won this past
election. However ,Chavez had him banned, due to charges of
corruption, even though no evidence was of corruption were found.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...venezuela/3496...

Concerning Hugo's *tweaking* of your President.
Personally, I'm not very concerned how he's *tweaked* the current
administration, but rather how he will tweak the next.


Speaking of nose tweaking, I think it a bit strange that Hugo condemns
and laughs at the US which I believe is his largest customer.

?;^)
------
If the US wanted to make life rough for him, don't buy his products.
Corrupt dictatoships fall without the corruption cash. With 40 USD per
barrel, he is in a squeeze.




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