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hk January 9th 09 05:29 PM

'Real' Unemployment Rate: 13% +
 
http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.t12.htm

JoeSpareBedroom January 9th 09 05:33 PM

'Real' Unemployment Rate: 13% +
 
"hk" wrote in message
m...

http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.t12.htm



Typical left-wing source, attempting to make America look bad.



[email protected] January 9th 09 05:45 PM

'Real' Unemployment Rate: 13% +
 
On Jan 9, 12:29*pm, hk wrote:
http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.t12.htm


Good thing it was nothing but a googled cut and paste, because we all
know YOU never post anything "real". Right, Mr. Lobster boat owner?

JoeSpareBedroom January 9th 09 05:47 PM

'Real' Unemployment Rate: 13% +
 
wrote in message
...
On Jan 9, 12:29 pm, hk wrote:
http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.t12.htm


Good thing it was nothing but a googled cut and paste, because we all
know YOU never post anything "real". Right, Mr. Lobster boat owner?

===============


If he stated the 13% number WITHOUT a valid source, you'd say he was
inventing the number. He provided a source, and you're complaining.

Make up your mind. Source or no source?



[email protected] January 9th 09 05:52 PM

'Real' Unemployment Rate: 13% +
 
On Jan 9, 12:47*pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
wrote in message

...
On Jan 9, 12:29 pm, hk wrote:

http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.t12.htm


Good thing it was nothing but a googled cut and paste, because we all
know YOU never post anything "real". Right, Mr. Lobster boat owner?

===============

If he stated the 13% number WITHOUT a valid source, you'd say he was
inventing the number. He provided a source, and you're complaining.

Make up your mind. Source or no source?


What did that page look like before Democrats took over congress?

JoeSpareBedroom January 9th 09 05:53 PM

'Real' Unemployment Rate: 13% +
 
wrote in message
...
On Jan 9, 12:47 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
wrote in message

...
On Jan 9, 12:29 pm, hk wrote:

http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.t12.htm


Good thing it was nothing but a googled cut and paste, because we all
know YOU never post anything "real". Right, Mr. Lobster boat owner?

===============

If he stated the 13% number WITHOUT a valid source, you'd say he was
inventing the number. He provided a source, and you're complaining.

Make up your mind. Source or no source?


What did that page look like before Democrats took over congress?

====================

I don't know. What did it look like? Go find the data from a valid date and
show it to us.

zzzzzzzzz............



D.Duck January 9th 09 05:53 PM

'Real' Unemployment Rate: 13% +
 

"hk" wrote in message
m...
http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.t12.htm


You're about the only one who uses the 13+% category.



[email protected] January 9th 09 05:54 PM

'Real' Unemployment Rate: 13% +
 
On Jan 9, 12:47*pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
wrote in message

...
On Jan 9, 12:29 pm, hk wrote:

http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.t12.htm


Good thing it was nothing but a googled cut and paste, because we all
know YOU never post anything "real". Right, Mr. Lobster boat owner?

===============

If he stated the 13% number WITHOUT a valid source, you'd say he was
inventing the number. He provided a source, and you're complaining.

Make up your mind. Source or no source?


Where did I complain about the "valid source"????
Does this **** just pop into your brain, or do you have a legitimate
comprehension problem?

[email protected] January 9th 09 05:58 PM

'Real' Unemployment Rate: 13% +
 
On Jan 9, 12:54*pm, wrote:
On Jan 9, 12:47*pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:





wrote in message


....
On Jan 9, 12:29 pm, hk wrote:


http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.t12.htm


Good thing it was nothing but a googled cut and paste, because we all
know YOU never post anything "real". Right, Mr. Lobster boat owner?


===============


If he stated the 13% number WITHOUT a valid source, you'd say he was
inventing the number. He provided a source, and you're complaining.


Make up your mind. Source or no source?


Where did I complain about the "valid source"????
Does this **** just pop into your brain, or do you have a legitimate
comprehension problem?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


He has a dittle linking problem... hic

hk January 9th 09 05:58 PM

'Real' Unemployment Rate: 13% +
 
D.Duck wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
m...
http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.t12.htm


You're about the only one who uses the 13+% category.




Nope.

JoeSpareBedroom January 9th 09 06:02 PM

'Real' Unemployment Rate: 13% +
 
wrote in message
...
On Jan 9, 12:47 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
wrote in message

...
On Jan 9, 12:29 pm, hk wrote:

http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.t12.htm


Good thing it was nothing but a googled cut and paste, because we all
know YOU never post anything "real". Right, Mr. Lobster boat owner?

===============

If he stated the 13% number WITHOUT a valid source, you'd say he was
inventing the number. He provided a source, and you're complaining.

Make up your mind. Source or no source?


Where did I complain about the "valid source"????
Does this **** just pop into your brain, or do you have a legitimate
comprehension problem?


=============


What if YOU had run across the same interesting information and wanted to
present it here? Show us how you would've presented it differently than
Harry did.



Canuck57[_6_] January 9th 09 06:14 PM

'Real' Unemployment Rate: 13% +
 

"hk" wrote in message
m...
http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.t12.htm


I guess then the clock is ticking for callign this a depression.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depression_(economics)

All that remains is to decide how long is prolonged? 2 months, 6 months, a
year or two? So at what point do we call this a depression?

Amazing how history repeats itself. The governments first kick is always to
try to spend out of it and never works. Then they cut back, still does not
work. Then someone says leave more money in tax payers pockets and 6-12
months later it works.



hk January 9th 09 06:16 PM

'Real' Unemployment Rate: 13% +
 
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Jan 9, 12:47 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
wrote in message

...
On Jan 9, 12:29 pm, hk wrote:

http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.t12.htm

Good thing it was nothing but a googled cut and paste, because we all
know YOU never post anything "real". Right, Mr. Lobster boat owner?

===============

If he stated the 13% number WITHOUT a valid source, you'd say he was
inventing the number. He provided a source, and you're complaining.

Make up your mind. Source or no source?


Where did I complain about the "valid source"????
Does this **** just pop into your brain, or do you have a legitimate
comprehension problem?


=============


What if YOU had run across the same interesting information and wanted to
present it here? Show us how you would've presented it differently than
Harry did.




That's a mighty big "what it?"

Canuck57[_6_] January 9th 09 06:19 PM

'Real' Unemployment Rate: 13% +
 

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...
wrote in message
...
On Jan 9, 12:29 pm, hk wrote:
http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.t12.htm


Good thing it was nothing but a googled cut and paste, because we all
know YOU never post anything "real". Right, Mr. Lobster boat owner?

===============


If he stated the 13% number WITHOUT a valid source, you'd say he was
inventing the number. He provided a source, and you're complaining.

Make up your mind. Source or no source?


It is in the link, did you read it? Says 13.5 to me.

I can't blame people for not looking either if it gets bad enough. In 1993
the local area went right past 25% unemployeed and my wife put our some 200
resumes and not one call. I told her to give up and I would be happy if she
stayed at home and we would make it work that way. It took too much out of
her... and she is a great hard working gal.

Sad so many are loosing to this government driven economic turmoil.



[email protected] January 9th 09 06:34 PM

'Real' Unemployment Rate: 13% +
 
On Jan 9, 1:02*pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
wrote in message

...
On Jan 9, 12:47 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:





wrote in message


....
On Jan 9, 12:29 pm, hk wrote:


http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.t12.htm


Good thing it was nothing but a googled cut and paste, because we all
know YOU never post anything "real". Right, Mr. Lobster boat owner?


===============


If he stated the 13% number WITHOUT a valid source, you'd say he was
inventing the number. He provided a source, and you're complaining.


Make up your mind. Source or no source?


Where did I complain about the "valid source"????
Does this **** just pop into your brain, or do you have a legitimate
comprehension problem?

=============

What if YOU had run across the same interesting information and wanted to
present it here? Show us how you would've presented it differently than
Harry did.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Oh, holy hell, you really DON'T comprehend what I said to Harry, do
you??????
Let me try one more time, perhaps you can clear up your addled mind
just a tad.........
1. Harry has been known, and caught in numerous lies here.
2. Harry is also the newsgroup king of political cut and paste
articles.
3. Harry titled the thread "REAL Unemployment Rates"
4. I stated that it's a good thing it was a googled cut and paste,
because we all know Harry wouldn't post anything REAL on his own
(see #1)
5. That would make any SANE person comprehend this just as it was, a
reply stating that Harry lies constantly, so anything he posts that is
REAL must be a googled cut and paste.
6. You are the only one here that doesn't understand that. Does that
tell you anything?

JoeSpareBedroom January 9th 09 06:36 PM

'Real' Unemployment Rate: 13% +
 
wrote in message
...
On Jan 9, 1:02 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
wrote in message

...
On Jan 9, 12:47 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:





wrote in message


...
On Jan 9, 12:29 pm, hk wrote:


http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.t12.htm


Good thing it was nothing but a googled cut and paste, because we all
know YOU never post anything "real". Right, Mr. Lobster boat owner?


===============


If he stated the 13% number WITHOUT a valid source, you'd say he was
inventing the number. He provided a source, and you're complaining.


Make up your mind. Source or no source?


Where did I complain about the "valid source"????
Does this **** just pop into your brain, or do you have a legitimate
comprehension problem?

=============

What if YOU had run across the same interesting information and wanted to
present it here? Show us how you would've presented it differently than
Harry did.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Oh, holy hell, you really DON'T comprehend what I said to Harry, do
you??????
Let me try one more time, perhaps you can clear up your addled mind
just a tad.........
1. Harry has been known, and caught in numerous lies here.
2. Harry is also the newsgroup king of political cut and paste
articles.
3. Harry titled the thread "REAL Unemployment Rates"
4. I stated that it's a good thing it was a googled cut and paste,
because we all know Harry wouldn't post anything REAL on his own
(see #1)
5. That would make any SANE person comprehend this just as it was, a
reply stating that Harry lies constantly, so anything he posts that is
REAL must be a googled cut and paste.
6. You are the only one here that doesn't understand that. Does that
tell you anything?

================

And Tom posts online games. Either be consistent and complain about
everyone's cut & paste jobs, or stop complaining about any of them. There's
no middle allowed.



[email protected] January 9th 09 06:49 PM

OT: How congress sold us out to win an election...
 
Most Corrupt Congress In History
With news coming out about the former Presidential candidate Sen Chris
Dodd and other Congressmen and Senators, will this Congress be labeled
the Most Corrupt Congress In History? How far does the corruption go?
With all of the campaign contributions and VIP sweetheart mortgage
deals these people received from Countrywide, Citigroup Inc. and who
knows who, its no wonder the Senators and Congressmen are pushing a
sweetheart bailout plan to save companies like Countrywide.

With the price of oil being manipulated on the commodities market it
makes you wonder just how far the corruption goes. The CFTC admitted
they are ill equipped to carry out a ligitiment investigation of the
market and some investigators stated off record that maybe the Justice
Department should be leading the investigation. The question has risen
just how many public officials have hidden investments in the
commodities market. With the recent floods and the loss of corn,
soybean and other commodities will the speculators drive the prices so
high America will be driven into the worst Recession in modern
history?

The State of America today reminds me more and more of the early
stages leading up to the French Revolution. While historic revisionist
will disagree on the exact cause for rebellion, a few things are
clear;

1) Only the Elitist and privileged Aristocrats held power
2) A burdensome national debt was destroying the economy
3) Price of food due to high taxes led to famine among the peasants
and lower class
4) Unemployment among the the poorest jumped to historic levels
5) The governing powers became out of touch with the common citizen
6) Land and homes were being taken away due to unemployment and high
taxes
7) The government refused to reform and tackle the corruption within
the Monarchy
8) Corruption ran high throughout all of government
9) The privileged and rich became more privileged and wealthier
10) When people complained they could not afford the price of bread,
the arrogant response from the Monarchy was "let them eat cake."

Americans will not violently 'storm the Bastille' in Washington, what
we will do is vote the bums out. Our own Declaration of Independence
states:

"... when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably
the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute
Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such
Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security."

Today Americans are desperate for lower prices to feed, clothe and
afford homes for our children. Taxes are too high and we are taxed on
everything we buy or own. The only answer coming from Federal, State
and Local governments is to raise taxes higher and create new ones on
business, which will stifle growth and create higher unemployment.
Democrats in Congress and the Democrat Presidential Candidate are
openly calling for Nationalizing everything from Health Care to
Refineries to Oil Companies, turning America into a Socialist state.
The average American is not stupid. We understand the elitist in
government will look out for themselves before concerning themselves
with the lower class. We understand how greed and power can corrupt
every politician and member of the press. We understand how these same
people will sell their soul for power and money. We also understand
how they will do everything in their power to keep the lower class
down and never relinquish the power they have over us.

This a corrupt do nothing Congress that is intent on bringing this
nation to its knees in order to sway an election and gain more power.
At a time when most of Americans are calling for Congress and the
White House to lift the bans on domestic drilling the government says
NO!

This is no longer a government "of the people, by the people, for the
people", instead it is a government "of the wealthy, by the wealthy,
for the wealthy."

It is time we let this Congress know we love our country and our form
of government. We will not allow America to be turned into another
Soviet Union. We are not Venezuela and will not allow Nationalization
of free enterprise in America. We demand a Congress that listens to
the will of the people instead of their own self interest. If the
Democrats continue their refusal to do what is right for America then
we have no recourse but follow in our forefathers footsteps and vote
the bums out.

Jim January 9th 09 07:03 PM

'Real' Unemployment Rate: 13% +
 
hk wrote:
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Jan 9, 12:47 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
wrote in message

...

On Jan 9, 12:29 pm, hk wrote:

http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.t12.htm
Good thing it was nothing but a googled cut and paste, because we all
know YOU never post anything "real". Right, Mr. Lobster boat owner?

===============

If he stated the 13% number WITHOUT a valid source, you'd say he was
inventing the number. He provided a source, and you're complaining.

Make up your mind. Source or no source?


Where did I complain about the "valid source"????
Does this **** just pop into your brain, or do you have a legitimate
comprehension problem?


=============


What if YOU had run across the same interesting information and wanted
to present it here? Show us how you would've presented it differently
than Harry did.



That's a mighty big "what it?"


Can't even get a two word six letter quote right. Who is your proof reader?

hk January 9th 09 07:05 PM

OT: How congress sold us out to win an election...
 
wrote:
Most Corrupt Congress In History
With news coming out about the former Presidential candidate Sen Chris
Dodd and other Congressmen and Senators, will this Congress be labeled
the Most Corrupt Congress In History? How far does the corruption go?
With all of the campaign contributions and VIP sweetheart mortgage
deals these people received from Countrywide, Citigroup Inc. and who
knows who, its no wonder the Senators and Congressmen are pushing a
sweetheart bailout plan to save companies like Countrywide.

With the price of oil being manipulated on the commodities market it
makes you wonder just how far the corruption goes. The CFTC admitted
they are ill equipped to carry out a ligitiment investigation of the
market and some investigators stated off record that maybe the Justice
Department should be leading the investigation. The question has risen
just how many public officials have hidden investments in the
commodities market. With the recent floods and the loss of corn,
soybean and other commodities will the speculators drive the prices so
high America will be driven into the worst Recession in modern
history?

The State of America today reminds me more and more of the early
stages leading up to the French Revolution. While historic revisionist
will disagree on the exact cause for rebellion, a few things are
clear;

1) Only the Elitist and privileged Aristocrats held power
2) A burdensome national debt was destroying the economy
3) Price of food due to high taxes led to famine among the peasants
and lower class
4) Unemployment among the the poorest jumped to historic levels
5) The governing powers became out of touch with the common citizen
6) Land and homes were being taken away due to unemployment and high
taxes
7) The government refused to reform and tackle the corruption within
the Monarchy
8) Corruption ran high throughout all of government
9) The privileged and rich became more privileged and wealthier
10) When people complained they could not afford the price of bread,
the arrogant response from the Monarchy was "let them eat cake."

Americans will not violently 'storm the Bastille' in Washington, what
we will do is vote the bums out. Our own Declaration of Independence
states:

"... when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably
the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute
Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such
Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security."

Today Americans are desperate for lower prices to feed, clothe and
afford homes for our children. Taxes are too high and we are taxed on
everything we buy or own. The only answer coming from Federal, State
and Local governments is to raise taxes higher and create new ones on
business, which will stifle growth and create higher unemployment.
Democrats in Congress and the Democrat Presidential Candidate are
openly calling for Nationalizing everything from Health Care to
Refineries to Oil Companies, turning America into a Socialist state.
The average American is not stupid. We understand the elitist in
government will look out for themselves before concerning themselves
with the lower class. We understand how greed and power can corrupt
every politician and member of the press. We understand how these same
people will sell their soul for power and money. We also understand
how they will do everything in their power to keep the lower class
down and never relinquish the power they have over us.

This a corrupt do nothing Congress that is intent on bringing this
nation to its knees in order to sway an election and gain more power.
At a time when most of Americans are calling for Congress and the
White House to lift the bans on domestic drilling the government says
NO!

This is no longer a government "of the people, by the people, for the
people", instead it is a government "of the wealthy, by the wealthy,
for the wealthy."

It is time we let this Congress know we love our country and our form
of government. We will not allow America to be turned into another
Soviet Union. We are not Venezuela and will not allow Nationalization
of free enterprise in America. We demand a Congress that listens to
the will of the people instead of their own self interest. If the
Democrats continue their refusal to do what is right for America then
we have no recourse but follow in our forefathers footsteps and vote
the bums out.



It's just amazing that you keep trying to pin our national woes on the
current Congress rather than the Decider in Chief.

Surely by now you know that while the Democrats have had a simple
majority in the House and a bare majority in the Senate, the Dems DO NOT
CONTROL CONGRESS, nor do they have enough votes to override presidential
vetoes. Without that control and with an opposition party in the White
House, there is very little the Democrats can do in the face of
obstructionist Republicans.

If you want to point your fickle finger of blame, point it at the Bush
White House and Bush's enablers in the government, the House and the
Senate. Bush has been in charge of the government for the past eight
years. Very little of what he has wanted has been turned thumbs down by
Congress, and Congress has not had much success overturning his vetoes.


Jim January 9th 09 07:08 PM

'Real' Unemployment Rate: 13% +
 
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Jan 9, 1:02 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
wrote in message

...
On Jan 9, 12:47 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:





wrote in message
...
On Jan 9, 12:29 pm, hk wrote:
http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.t12.htm
Good thing it was nothing but a googled cut and paste, because we all
know YOU never post anything "real". Right, Mr. Lobster boat owner?
===============
If he stated the 13% number WITHOUT a valid source, you'd say he was
inventing the number. He provided a source, and you're complaining.
Make up your mind. Source or no source?

Where did I complain about the "valid source"????
Does this **** just pop into your brain, or do you have a legitimate
comprehension problem?

=============

What if YOU had run across the same interesting information and wanted to
present it here? Show us how you would've presented it differently than
Harry did.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Oh, holy hell, you really DON'T comprehend what I said to Harry, do
you??????
Let me try one more time, perhaps you can clear up your addled mind
just a tad.........
1. Harry has been known, and caught in numerous lies here.
2. Harry is also the newsgroup king of political cut and paste
articles.
3. Harry titled the thread "REAL Unemployment Rates"
4. I stated that it's a good thing it was a googled cut and paste,
because we all know Harry wouldn't post anything REAL on his own
(see #1)
5. That would make any SANE person comprehend this just as it was, a
reply stating that Harry lies constantly, so anything he posts that is
REAL must be a googled cut and paste.
6. You are the only one here that doesn't understand that. Does that
tell you anything?

================

And Tom posts online games. Either be consistent and complain about
everyone's cut & paste jobs, or stop complaining about any of them. There's
no middle allowed.


Really? Read the charter article 13 sub paragraph 3.

[email protected] January 9th 09 07:12 PM

OT: How congress sold us out to win an election...
 
On Jan 9, 2:05*pm, hk wrote:
wrote:
Most Corrupt Congress In History
With news coming out about the former Presidential candidate Sen Chris
Dodd and other Congressmen and Senators, will this Congress be labeled
the Most Corrupt Congress In History? How far does the corruption go?
With all of the campaign contributions and VIP sweetheart mortgage
deals these people received from Countrywide, Citigroup Inc. and who
knows who, its no wonder the Senators and Congressmen are pushing a
sweetheart bailout plan to save companies like Countrywide.


With the price of oil being manipulated on the commodities market it
makes you wonder just how far the corruption goes. The CFTC admitted
they are ill equipped to carry out a ligitiment investigation of the
market and some investigators stated off record that maybe the Justice
Department should be leading the investigation. The question has risen
just how many public officials have hidden investments in the
commodities market. With the recent floods and the loss of corn,
soybean and other commodities will the speculators drive the prices so
high America will be driven into the worst Recession in modern
history?


The State of America today reminds me more and more of the early
stages leading up to the French Revolution. While historic revisionist
will disagree on the exact cause for rebellion, a few things are
clear;


1) Only the Elitist and privileged Aristocrats held power
2) A burdensome national debt was destroying the economy
3) Price of food due to high taxes led to famine among the peasants
and lower class
4) Unemployment among the the poorest jumped to historic levels
5) The governing powers became out of touch with the common citizen
6) Land and homes were being taken away due to unemployment and high
taxes
7) The government refused to reform and tackle the corruption within
the Monarchy
8) Corruption ran high throughout all of government
9) The privileged and rich became more privileged and wealthier
10) When people complained they could not afford the price of bread,
the arrogant response from the Monarchy was "let them eat cake."


Americans will not violently 'storm the Bastille' in Washington, what
we will do is vote the bums out. Our own Declaration of Independence
states:


"... when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably
the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute
Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such
Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security."


Today Americans are desperate for lower prices to feed, clothe and
afford homes for our children. Taxes are too high and we are taxed on
everything we buy or own. The only answer coming from Federal, State
and Local governments is to raise taxes higher and create new ones on
business, which will stifle growth and create higher unemployment.
Democrats in Congress and the Democrat Presidential Candidate are
openly calling for Nationalizing everything from Health Care to
Refineries to Oil Companies, turning America into a Socialist state.
The average American is not stupid. We understand the elitist in
government will look out for themselves before concerning themselves
with the lower class. We understand how greed and power can corrupt
every politician and member of the press. We understand how these same
people will sell their soul for power and money. We also understand
how they will do everything in their power to keep the lower class
down and never relinquish the power they have over us.


This a corrupt do nothing Congress that is intent on bringing this
nation to its knees in order to sway an election and gain more power.
At a time when most of Americans are calling for Congress and the
White House to lift the bans on domestic drilling the government says
NO!


This is no longer a government "of the people, by the people, for the
people", instead it is a government "of the wealthy, by the wealthy,
for the wealthy."


It is time we let this Congress know we love our country and our form
of government. We will not allow America to be turned into another
Soviet Union. We are not Venezuela and will not allow Nationalization
of free enterprise in America. We demand a Congress that listens to
the will of the people instead of their own self interest. If the
Democrats continue their refusal to do what is right for America then
we have no recourse but follow in our forefathers footsteps and vote
the bums out.


It's just amazing that you keep trying to pin our national woes on the
current Congress rather than the Decider in Chief.

Surely by now you know that while the Democrats have had a simple
majority in the House and a bare majority in the Senate, the Dems DO NOT
CONTROL CONGRESS, nor do they have enough votes to override presidential
vetoes. Without that control and with an opposition party in the White
House, there is very little the Democrats can do in the face of
obstructionist Republicans.

If you want to point your fickle finger of blame, point it at the Bush
White House and Bush's enablers in the government, the House and the
Senate. Bush has been in charge of the government for the past eight
years. Very little of what he has wanted has been turned thumbs down by
Congress, and Congress has not had much success overturning his vetoes.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


I point the finger at the most corrupt congress in history, read the
"cut and paste". I read it on line, it must be true...

Jim January 9th 09 07:16 PM

'Real' Unemployment Rate: 13% +
 
hk wrote:
http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.t12.htm


Think about when your bride comes home with her pink slip. Are you still
going to be posting here 24-7?

hk January 9th 09 07:24 PM

OT: How congress sold us out to win an election...
 
wrote:
On Jan 9, 2:05 pm, hk wrote:
wrote:
Most Corrupt Congress In History
With news coming out about the former Presidential candidate Sen Chris
Dodd and other Congressmen and Senators, will this Congress be labeled
the Most Corrupt Congress In History? How far does the corruption go?
With all of the campaign contributions and VIP sweetheart mortgage
deals these people received from Countrywide, Citigroup Inc. and who
knows who, its no wonder the Senators and Congressmen are pushing a
sweetheart bailout plan to save companies like Countrywide.
With the price of oil being manipulated on the commodities market it
makes you wonder just how far the corruption goes. The CFTC admitted
they are ill equipped to carry out a ligitiment investigation of the
market and some investigators stated off record that maybe the Justice
Department should be leading the investigation. The question has risen
just how many public officials have hidden investments in the
commodities market. With the recent floods and the loss of corn,
soybean and other commodities will the speculators drive the prices so
high America will be driven into the worst Recession in modern
history?
The State of America today reminds me more and more of the early
stages leading up to the French Revolution. While historic revisionist
will disagree on the exact cause for rebellion, a few things are
clear;
1) Only the Elitist and privileged Aristocrats held power
2) A burdensome national debt was destroying the economy
3) Price of food due to high taxes led to famine among the peasants
and lower class
4) Unemployment among the the poorest jumped to historic levels
5) The governing powers became out of touch with the common citizen
6) Land and homes were being taken away due to unemployment and high
taxes
7) The government refused to reform and tackle the corruption within
the Monarchy
8) Corruption ran high throughout all of government
9) The privileged and rich became more privileged and wealthier
10) When people complained they could not afford the price of bread,
the arrogant response from the Monarchy was "let them eat cake."
Americans will not violently 'storm the Bastille' in Washington, what
we will do is vote the bums out. Our own Declaration of Independence
states:
"... when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably
the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute
Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such
Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security."
Today Americans are desperate for lower prices to feed, clothe and
afford homes for our children. Taxes are too high and we are taxed on
everything we buy or own. The only answer coming from Federal, State
and Local governments is to raise taxes higher and create new ones on
business, which will stifle growth and create higher unemployment.
Democrats in Congress and the Democrat Presidential Candidate are
openly calling for Nationalizing everything from Health Care to
Refineries to Oil Companies, turning America into a Socialist state.
The average American is not stupid. We understand the elitist in
government will look out for themselves before concerning themselves
with the lower class. We understand how greed and power can corrupt
every politician and member of the press. We understand how these same
people will sell their soul for power and money. We also understand
how they will do everything in their power to keep the lower class
down and never relinquish the power they have over us.
This a corrupt do nothing Congress that is intent on bringing this
nation to its knees in order to sway an election and gain more power.
At a time when most of Americans are calling for Congress and the
White House to lift the bans on domestic drilling the government says
NO!
This is no longer a government "of the people, by the people, for the
people", instead it is a government "of the wealthy, by the wealthy,
for the wealthy."
It is time we let this Congress know we love our country and our form
of government. We will not allow America to be turned into another
Soviet Union. We are not Venezuela and will not allow Nationalization
of free enterprise in America. We demand a Congress that listens to
the will of the people instead of their own self interest. If the
Democrats continue their refusal to do what is right for America then
we have no recourse but follow in our forefathers footsteps and vote
the bums out.

It's just amazing that you keep trying to pin our national woes on the
current Congress rather than the Decider in Chief.

Surely by now you know that while the Democrats have had a simple
majority in the House and a bare majority in the Senate, the Dems DO NOT
CONTROL CONGRESS, nor do they have enough votes to override presidential
vetoes. Without that control and with an opposition party in the White
House, there is very little the Democrats can do in the face of
obstructionist Republicans.

If you want to point your fickle finger of blame, point it at the Bush
White House and Bush's enablers in the government, the House and the
Senate. Bush has been in charge of the government for the past eight
years. Very little of what he has wanted has been turned thumbs down by
Congress, and Congress has not had much success overturning his vetoes.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


I point the finger at the most corrupt congress in history, read the
"cut and paste". I read it on line, it must be true...



Not even close to the most corrupt.

[email protected] January 9th 09 07:59 PM

'Real' Unemployment Rate: 13% +
 
On Jan 9, 1:36*pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
wrote in message

...
On Jan 9, 1:02 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:





wrote in message


....
On Jan 9, 12:47 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:


wrote in message


....
On Jan 9, 12:29 pm, hk wrote:


http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.t12.htm


Good thing it was nothing but a googled cut and paste, because we all
know YOU never post anything "real". Right, Mr. Lobster boat owner?


===============


If he stated the 13% number WITHOUT a valid source, you'd say he was
inventing the number. He provided a source, and you're complaining.


Make up your mind. Source or no source?


Where did I complain about the "valid source"????
Does this **** just pop into your brain, or do you have a legitimate
comprehension problem?


=============


What if YOU had run across the same interesting information and wanted to
present it here? Show us how you would've presented it differently than
Harry did.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Oh, holy hell, you really DON'T comprehend what I said to Harry, do
you??????
Let me try one more time, perhaps you can clear up your addled mind
just a tad.........
1. Harry has been known, and caught in numerous lies here.
2. Harry is also the newsgroup king of political cut and paste
articles.
3. Harry titled the thread "REAL Unemployment Rates"
4. I stated that it's a good thing it was a googled cut and paste,
because we all know Harry wouldn't post anything REAL * on his own
(see #1)
5. That would make any SANE person comprehend this just as it was, a
reply stating that Harry lies constantly, so anything he posts that is
REAL must be a googled cut and paste.
6. You are the only one here that doesn't understand that. Does that
tell you anything?

================

And Tom posts online games. Either be consistent and complain about
everyone's cut & paste jobs, or stop complaining about any of them. There's
no middle allowed.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


What in HELL does Tom posting online games have to do with the FACT
that Harry is a chronic liar????????
(See #1).
Are you really so thick headed that you don't comprehend that the meat
of MY reply is that Harry is a chronic liar, and no one would have
believed him if it weren't for a google cut and paste?

Wheeewww.......

JoeSpareBedroom January 9th 09 08:01 PM

'Real' Unemployment Rate: 13% +
 
wrote in message
...
On Jan 9, 1:36 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
wrote in message

...
On Jan 9, 1:02 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:





wrote in message


...
On Jan 9, 12:47 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:


wrote in message


...
On Jan 9, 12:29 pm, hk wrote:


http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.t12.htm


Good thing it was nothing but a googled cut and paste, because we all
know YOU never post anything "real". Right, Mr. Lobster boat owner?


===============


If he stated the 13% number WITHOUT a valid source, you'd say he was
inventing the number. He provided a source, and you're complaining.


Make up your mind. Source or no source?


Where did I complain about the "valid source"????
Does this **** just pop into your brain, or do you have a legitimate
comprehension problem?


=============


What if YOU had run across the same interesting information and wanted
to
present it here? Show us how you would've presented it differently than
Harry did.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Oh, holy hell, you really DON'T comprehend what I said to Harry, do
you??????
Let me try one more time, perhaps you can clear up your addled mind
just a tad.........
1. Harry has been known, and caught in numerous lies here.
2. Harry is also the newsgroup king of political cut and paste
articles.
3. Harry titled the thread "REAL Unemployment Rates"
4. I stated that it's a good thing it was a googled cut and paste,
because we all know Harry wouldn't post anything REAL on his own
(see #1)
5. That would make any SANE person comprehend this just as it was, a
reply stating that Harry lies constantly, so anything he posts that is
REAL must be a googled cut and paste.
6. You are the only one here that doesn't understand that. Does that
tell you anything?

================

And Tom posts online games. Either be consistent and complain about
everyone's cut & paste jobs, or stop complaining about any of them.
There's
no middle allowed.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


What in HELL does Tom posting online games have to do with the FACT
that Harry is a chronic liar????????
(See #1).
Are you really so thick headed that you don't comprehend that the meat
of MY reply is that Harry is a chronic liar, and no one would have
believed him if it weren't for a google cut and paste?

Wheeewww.......

==============


You're sputtering. Is there anything I can do to help make it worse?



[email protected] January 9th 09 08:02 PM

'Real' Unemployment Rate: 13% +
 
On Jan 9, 2:59*pm, wrote:
On Jan 9, 1:36*pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:





wrote in message


...
On Jan 9, 1:02 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:


wrote in message


....
On Jan 9, 12:47 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:


wrote in message


...
On Jan 9, 12:29 pm, hk wrote:


http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.t12.htm


Good thing it was nothing but a googled cut and paste, because we all
know YOU never post anything "real". Right, Mr. Lobster boat owner?


===============


If he stated the 13% number WITHOUT a valid source, you'd say he was
inventing the number. He provided a source, and you're complaining.


Make up your mind. Source or no source?


Where did I complain about the "valid source"????
Does this **** just pop into your brain, or do you have a legitimate
comprehension problem?


=============


What if YOU had run across the same interesting information and wanted to
present it here? Show us how you would've presented it differently than
Harry did.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Oh, holy hell, you really DON'T comprehend what I said to Harry, do
you??????
Let me try one more time, perhaps you can clear up your addled mind
just a tad.........
1. Harry has been known, and caught in numerous lies here.
2. Harry is also the newsgroup king of political cut and paste
articles.
3. Harry titled the thread "REAL Unemployment Rates"
4. I stated that it's a good thing it was a googled cut and paste,
because we all know Harry wouldn't post anything REAL * on his own
(see #1)
5. That would make any SANE person comprehend this just as it was, a
reply stating that Harry lies constantly, so anything he posts that is
REAL must be a googled cut and paste.
6. You are the only one here that doesn't understand that. Does that
tell you anything?


================


And Tom posts online games. Either be consistent and complain about
everyone's cut & paste jobs, or stop complaining about any of them. There's
no middle allowed.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


What in HELL does Tom posting online games have to do with the FACT
that Harry is a chronic liar????????
(See #1).
Are you really so thick headed that you don't comprehend that the meat
of MY reply is that Harry is a chronic liar, and no one would have
believed him if it weren't for a google cut and paste?

Wheeewww.......- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Not to nit-pic but we don't really trust his cut and pastes either, he
has been known for some creative editing there too.

JoeSpareBedroom January 9th 09 08:04 PM

'Real' Unemployment Rate: 13% +
 
wrote in message
...
On Jan 9, 2:59 pm, wrote:
On Jan 9, 1:36 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:





wrote in message


...
On Jan 9, 1:02 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:


wrote in message


...
On Jan 9, 12:47 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:


wrote in message


...
On Jan 9, 12:29 pm, hk wrote:


http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.t12.htm


Good thing it was nothing but a googled cut and paste, because we
all
know YOU never post anything "real". Right, Mr. Lobster boat owner?


===============


If he stated the 13% number WITHOUT a valid source, you'd say he was
inventing the number. He provided a source, and you're complaining.


Make up your mind. Source or no source?


Where did I complain about the "valid source"????
Does this **** just pop into your brain, or do you have a legitimate
comprehension problem?


=============


What if YOU had run across the same interesting information and wanted
to
present it here? Show us how you would've presented it differently
than
Harry did.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Oh, holy hell, you really DON'T comprehend what I said to Harry, do
you??????
Let me try one more time, perhaps you can clear up your addled mind
just a tad.........
1. Harry has been known, and caught in numerous lies here.
2. Harry is also the newsgroup king of political cut and paste
articles.
3. Harry titled the thread "REAL Unemployment Rates"
4. I stated that it's a good thing it was a googled cut and paste,
because we all know Harry wouldn't post anything REAL on his own
(see #1)
5. That would make any SANE person comprehend this just as it was, a
reply stating that Harry lies constantly, so anything he posts that is
REAL must be a googled cut and paste.
6. You are the only one here that doesn't understand that. Does that
tell you anything?


================


And Tom posts online games. Either be consistent and complain about
everyone's cut & paste jobs, or stop complaining about any of them.
There's
no middle allowed.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


What in HELL does Tom posting online games have to do with the FACT
that Harry is a chronic liar????????
(See #1).
Are you really so thick headed that you don't comprehend that the meat
of MY reply is that Harry is a chronic liar, and no one would have
believed him if it weren't for a google cut and paste?

Wheeewww.......- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Not to nit-pic but we don't really trust his cut and pastes either, he
has been known for some creative editing there too.

=========


In this particular instance, it would be fun to see someone demonstrate how
he creatively edited a .gov web site.

Try and remember that he began this thread with a subject line and a link to
a .gov web site which supported the subject line completely. The resulting
debate is absurd.



hk January 9th 09 08:06 PM

'Real' Unemployment Rate: 13% +
 
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Jan 9, 1:36 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
wrote in message

...
On Jan 9, 1:02 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:





wrote in message
...
On Jan 9, 12:47 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Jan 9, 12:29 pm, hk wrote:
http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.t12.htm
Good thing it was nothing but a googled cut and paste, because we all
know YOU never post anything "real". Right, Mr. Lobster boat owner?
===============
If he stated the 13% number WITHOUT a valid source, you'd say he was
inventing the number. He provided a source, and you're complaining.
Make up your mind. Source or no source?
Where did I complain about the "valid source"????
Does this **** just pop into your brain, or do you have a legitimate
comprehension problem?
=============
What if YOU had run across the same interesting information and wanted
to
present it here? Show us how you would've presented it differently than
Harry did.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

Oh, holy hell, you really DON'T comprehend what I said to Harry, do
you??????
Let me try one more time, perhaps you can clear up your addled mind
just a tad.........
1. Harry has been known, and caught in numerous lies here.
2. Harry is also the newsgroup king of political cut and paste
articles.
3. Harry titled the thread "REAL Unemployment Rates"
4. I stated that it's a good thing it was a googled cut and paste,
because we all know Harry wouldn't post anything REAL on his own
(see #1)
5. That would make any SANE person comprehend this just as it was, a
reply stating that Harry lies constantly, so anything he posts that is
REAL must be a googled cut and paste.
6. You are the only one here that doesn't understand that. Does that
tell you anything?

================

And Tom posts online games. Either be consistent and complain about
everyone's cut & paste jobs, or stop complaining about any of them.
There's
no middle allowed.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


What in HELL does Tom posting online games have to do with the FACT
that Harry is a chronic liar????????
(See #1).
Are you really so thick headed that you don't comprehend that the meat
of MY reply is that Harry is a chronic liar, and no one would have
believed him if it weren't for a google cut and paste?

Wheeewww.......

==============


You're sputtering. Is there anything I can do to help make it worse?




I could sell you some posts...if we work it right, he'll have a stroke.

hk January 9th 09 08:08 PM

'Real' Unemployment Rate: 13% +
 
wrote:
On Jan 9, 2:59 pm, wrote:
On Jan 9, 1:36 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:





wrote in message
...
On Jan 9, 1:02 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Jan 9, 12:47 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Jan 9, 12:29 pm, hk wrote:
http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.t12.htm
Good thing it was nothing but a googled cut and paste, because we all
know YOU never post anything "real". Right, Mr. Lobster boat owner?
===============
If he stated the 13% number WITHOUT a valid source, you'd say he was
inventing the number. He provided a source, and you're complaining.
Make up your mind. Source or no source?
Where did I complain about the "valid source"????
Does this **** just pop into your brain, or do you have a legitimate
comprehension problem?
=============
What if YOU had run across the same interesting information and wanted to
present it here? Show us how you would've presented it differently than
Harry did.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Oh, holy hell, you really DON'T comprehend what I said to Harry, do
you??????
Let me try one more time, perhaps you can clear up your addled mind
just a tad.........
1. Harry has been known, and caught in numerous lies here.
2. Harry is also the newsgroup king of political cut and paste
articles.
3. Harry titled the thread "REAL Unemployment Rates"
4. I stated that it's a good thing it was a googled cut and paste,
because we all know Harry wouldn't post anything REAL on his own
(see #1)
5. That would make any SANE person comprehend this just as it was, a
reply stating that Harry lies constantly, so anything he posts that is
REAL must be a googled cut and paste.
6. You are the only one here that doesn't understand that. Does that
tell you anything?
================
And Tom posts online games. Either be consistent and complain about
everyone's cut & paste jobs, or stop complaining about any of them. There's
no middle allowed.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

What in HELL does Tom posting online games have to do with the FACT
that Harry is a chronic liar????????
(See #1).
Are you really so thick headed that you don't comprehend that the meat
of MY reply is that Harry is a chronic liar, and no one would have
believed him if it weren't for a google cut and paste?

Wheeewww.......- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Not to nit-pic but we don't really trust his cut and pastes either, he
has been known for some creative editing there too.



Dumb schitts...

hk January 9th 09 08:10 PM

'Real' Unemployment Rate: 13% +
 
wrote:
On Fri, 9 Jan 2009 11:59:29 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

On Jan 9, 1:36 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
wrote in message

...
On Jan 9, 1:02 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:





wrote in message
...
On Jan 9, 12:47 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Jan 9, 12:29 pm, hk wrote:
http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.t12.htm
Good thing it was nothing but a googled cut and paste, because we all
know YOU never post anything "real". Right, Mr. Lobster boat owner?
===============
If he stated the 13% number WITHOUT a valid source, you'd say he was
inventing the number. He provided a source, and you're complaining.
Make up your mind. Source or no source?
Where did I complain about the "valid source"????
Does this **** just pop into your brain, or do you have a legitimate
comprehension problem?
=============
What if YOU had run across the same interesting information and wanted to
present it here? Show us how you would've presented it differently than
Harry did.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Oh, holy hell, you really DON'T comprehend what I said to Harry, do
you??????
Let me try one more time, perhaps you can clear up your addled mind
just a tad.........
1. Harry has been known, and caught in numerous lies here.
2. Harry is also the newsgroup king of political cut and paste
articles.
3. Harry titled the thread "REAL Unemployment Rates"
4. I stated that it's a good thing it was a googled cut and paste,
because we all know Harry wouldn't post anything REAL on his own
(see #1)
5. That would make any SANE person comprehend this just as it was, a
reply stating that Harry lies constantly, so anything he posts that is
REAL must be a googled cut and paste.
6. You are the only one here that doesn't understand that. Does that
tell you anything?

================

And Tom posts online games. Either be consistent and complain about
everyone's cut & paste jobs, or stop complaining about any of them. There's
no middle allowed.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

What in HELL does Tom posting online games have to do with the FACT
that Harry is a chronic liar????????
(See #1).
Are you really so thick headed that you don't comprehend that the meat
of MY reply is that Harry is a chronic liar, and no one would have
believed him if it weren't for a google cut and paste?

Wheeewww.......


LIAR!



If there is anything in usenet easier than making Loogy twitter on the
end of a string, I haven't found it.

RLM January 9th 09 08:14 PM

OT: How congress sold us out to win an election...
 
On Fri, 09 Jan 2009 10:49:02 -0800, justwaitafrekinminute wrote:

Letting you go to the polls has been a farce. I go anyhow. The country is
too divided to function for a common cause anymore. If your children are
of age to fight in this war, your grand children will fight in the next
one. As your father fought in WWII or Korea and grandfather fought WWI or
the Spanish American. Do you see a pattern? Tell your descendants what is
in store for them if you expect it to stop. Place the blame on stupidity.
Good times, bad times follow a similar pattern. Keep the dummies off
balance.

By the way, what is the date for that victory party over Iraq and the
Middle East. I missed the one for Vietnam.

Oh well, I won't buy a new suit for the victory party anyhow.

Just between me and you, it's a bigger story than Congress controls. They
only handle some of the money. Follow the money and who really controls it.
Controls how much is printed and when to stop. What it's worth.

Congress was an ego trip for those involved that makes them fat. Now they
need to be fat first to apply.

That's my take until some one "proves" different. Probibly more proof than
I'll find here.

Most Corrupt Congress In History
With news coming out about the former Presidential candidate Sen Chris
Dodd and other Congressmen and Senators, will this Congress be labeled
the Most Corrupt Congress In History? How far does the corruption go?
With all of the campaign contributions and VIP sweetheart mortgage deals
these people received from Countrywide, Citigroup Inc. and who knows
who, its no wonder the Senators and Congressmen are pushing a sweetheart
bailout plan to save companies like Countrywide.

With the price of oil being manipulated on the commodities market it
makes you wonder just how far the corruption goes. The CFTC admitted
they are ill equipped to carry out a ligitiment investigation of the
market and some investigators stated off record that maybe the Justice
Department should be leading the investigation. The question has risen
just how many public officials have hidden investments in the
commodities market. With the recent floods and the loss of corn, soybean
and other commodities will the speculators drive the prices so high
America will be driven into the worst Recession in modern history?

The State of America today reminds me more and more of the early stages
leading up to the French Revolution. While historic revisionist will
disagree on the exact cause for rebellion, a few things are clear;

1) Only the Elitist and privileged Aristocrats held power 2) A
burdensome national debt was destroying the economy 3) Price of food due
to high taxes led to famine among the peasants and lower class
4) Unemployment among the the poorest jumped to historic levels 5) The
governing powers became out of touch with the common citizen 6) Land and
homes were being taken away due to unemployment and high taxes
7) The government refused to reform and tackle the corruption within the
Monarchy
8) Corruption ran high throughout all of government 9) The privileged
and rich became more privileged and wealthier 10) When people complained
they could not afford the price of bread, the arrogant response from the
Monarchy was "let them eat cake."

Americans will not violently 'storm the Bastille' in Washington, what we
will do is vote the bums out. Our own Declaration of Independence
states:

"... when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably
the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute
Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such
Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security."

Today Americans are desperate for lower prices to feed, clothe and
afford homes for our children. Taxes are too high and we are taxed on
everything we buy or own. The only answer coming from Federal, State and
Local governments is to raise taxes higher and create new ones on
business, which will stifle growth and create higher unemployment.
Democrats in Congress and the Democrat Presidential Candidate are openly
calling for Nationalizing everything from Health Care to Refineries to
Oil Companies, turning America into a Socialist state. The average
American is not stupid. We understand the elitist in government will
look out for themselves before concerning themselves with the lower
class. We understand how greed and power can corrupt every politician
and member of the press. We understand how these same people will sell
their soul for power and money. We also understand how they will do
everything in their power to keep the lower class down and never
relinquish the power they have over us.

This a corrupt do nothing Congress that is intent on bringing this
nation to its knees in order to sway an election and gain more power. At
a time when most of Americans are calling for Congress and the White
House to lift the bans on domestic drilling the government says NO!

This is no longer a government "of the people, by the people, for the
people", instead it is a government "of the wealthy, by the wealthy, for
the wealthy."

It is time we let this Congress know we love our country and our form of
government. We will not allow America to be turned into another Soviet
Union. We are not Venezuela and will not allow Nationalization of free
enterprise in America. We demand a Congress that listens to the will of
the people instead of their own self interest. If the Democrats continue
their refusal to do what is right for America then we have no recourse
but follow in our forefathers footsteps and vote the bums out.



hk January 9th 09 08:23 PM

'Real' Unemployment Rate: 13% +
 
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
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On Jan 9, 2:59 pm, wrote:
On Jan 9, 1:36 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:





wrote in message
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On Jan 9, 1:02 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
wrote in message
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On Jan 9, 12:47 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
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On Jan 9, 12:29 pm, hk wrote:
http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.t12.htm
Good thing it was nothing but a googled cut and paste, because we
all
know YOU never post anything "real". Right, Mr. Lobster boat owner?
===============
If he stated the 13% number WITHOUT a valid source, you'd say he was
inventing the number. He provided a source, and you're complaining.
Make up your mind. Source or no source?
Where did I complain about the "valid source"????
Does this **** just pop into your brain, or do you have a legitimate
comprehension problem?
=============
What if YOU had run across the same interesting information and wanted
to
present it here? Show us how you would've presented it differently
than
Harry did.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Oh, holy hell, you really DON'T comprehend what I said to Harry, do
you??????
Let me try one more time, perhaps you can clear up your addled mind
just a tad.........
1. Harry has been known, and caught in numerous lies here.
2. Harry is also the newsgroup king of political cut and paste
articles.
3. Harry titled the thread "REAL Unemployment Rates"
4. I stated that it's a good thing it was a googled cut and paste,
because we all know Harry wouldn't post anything REAL on his own
(see #1)
5. That would make any SANE person comprehend this just as it was, a
reply stating that Harry lies constantly, so anything he posts that is
REAL must be a googled cut and paste.
6. You are the only one here that doesn't understand that. Does that
tell you anything?
================
And Tom posts online games. Either be consistent and complain about
everyone's cut & paste jobs, or stop complaining about any of them.
There's
no middle allowed.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

What in HELL does Tom posting online games have to do with the FACT
that Harry is a chronic liar????????
(See #1).
Are you really so thick headed that you don't comprehend that the meat
of MY reply is that Harry is a chronic liar, and no one would have
believed him if it weren't for a google cut and paste?

Wheeewww.......- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Not to nit-pic but we don't really trust his cut and pastes either, he
has been known for some creative editing there too.

=========


In this particular instance, it would be fun to see someone demonstrate how
he creatively edited a .gov web site.

Try and remember that he began this thread with a subject line and a link to
a .gov web site which supported the subject line completely. The resulting
debate is absurd.




snerk



JustHate isn't known for being clever.

[email protected] January 9th 09 08:58 PM

'Real' Unemployment Rate: 13% +
 
On Jan 9, 3:01*pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
wrote in message

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On Jan 9, 1:36 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:





wrote in message


...
On Jan 9, 1:02 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:


wrote in message


....
On Jan 9, 12:47 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:


wrote in message


...
On Jan 9, 12:29 pm, hk wrote:


http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.t12.htm


Good thing it was nothing but a googled cut and paste, because we all
know YOU never post anything "real". Right, Mr. Lobster boat owner?


===============


If he stated the 13% number WITHOUT a valid source, you'd say he was
inventing the number. He provided a source, and you're complaining.


Make up your mind. Source or no source?


Where did I complain about the "valid source"????
Does this **** just pop into your brain, or do you have a legitimate
comprehension problem?


=============


What if YOU had run across the same interesting information and wanted
to
present it here? Show us how you would've presented it differently than
Harry did.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Oh, holy hell, you really DON'T comprehend what I said to Harry, do
you??????
Let me try one more time, perhaps you can clear up your addled mind
just a tad.........
1. Harry has been known, and caught in numerous lies here.
2. Harry is also the newsgroup king of political cut and paste
articles.
3. Harry titled the thread "REAL Unemployment Rates"
4. I stated that it's a good thing it was a googled cut and paste,
because we all know Harry wouldn't post anything REAL on his own
(see #1)
5. That would make any SANE person comprehend this just as it was, a
reply stating that Harry lies constantly, so anything he posts that is
REAL must be a googled cut and paste.
6. You are the only one here that doesn't understand that. Does that
tell you anything?


================


And Tom posts online games. Either be consistent and complain about
everyone's cut & paste jobs, or stop complaining about any of them.
There's
no middle allowed.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


What in HELL does Tom posting online games have to do with the FACT
that Harry is a chronic liar????????
(See #1).
Are you really so thick headed that you don't comprehend that the meat
of MY reply is that Harry is a chronic liar, and no one would have
believed him if it weren't for a google cut and paste?

Wheeewww.......

==============

You're sputtering. Is there anything I can do to help make it worse?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


I'm sputtering? You're the dumb ass that can understand a few simple
sentences.

Atomic Abusement Park Clown January 9th 09 09:07 PM

'Real' Unemployment Rate: 13% +
 
On Fri, 09 Jan 2009 12:29:09 -0500, hk wrote:

http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.t12.htm


Get ready for it to go higher...

http://www.cpsc.gov/cpsia.pdf

Your Democratic Congress in action.

Canuck57[_6_] January 9th 09 09:23 PM

'Real' Unemployment Rate: 13% +
 

"D.Duck" wrote in message
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"hk" wrote in message
m...
http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.t12.htm


You're about the only one who uses the 13+% category.


No me, I like the raw uncooked numbers. Over the years government "adjusts"
out the real picture to give a false sense of realty.



JoeSpareBedroom January 9th 09 09:24 PM

'Real' Unemployment Rate: 13% +
 
wrote in message
...
On Jan 9, 3:01 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
wrote in message

...
On Jan 9, 1:36 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:





wrote in message


...
On Jan 9, 1:02 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:


wrote in message


...
On Jan 9, 12:47 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:


wrote in message


...
On Jan 9, 12:29 pm, hk wrote:


http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.t12.htm


Good thing it was nothing but a googled cut and paste, because we
all
know YOU never post anything "real". Right, Mr. Lobster boat owner?


===============


If he stated the 13% number WITHOUT a valid source, you'd say he was
inventing the number. He provided a source, and you're complaining.


Make up your mind. Source or no source?


Where did I complain about the "valid source"????
Does this **** just pop into your brain, or do you have a legitimate
comprehension problem?


=============


What if YOU had run across the same interesting information and wanted
to
present it here? Show us how you would've presented it differently
than
Harry did.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Oh, holy hell, you really DON'T comprehend what I said to Harry, do
you??????
Let me try one more time, perhaps you can clear up your addled mind
just a tad.........
1. Harry has been known, and caught in numerous lies here.
2. Harry is also the newsgroup king of political cut and paste
articles.
3. Harry titled the thread "REAL Unemployment Rates"
4. I stated that it's a good thing it was a googled cut and paste,
because we all know Harry wouldn't post anything REAL on his own
(see #1)
5. That would make any SANE person comprehend this just as it was, a
reply stating that Harry lies constantly, so anything he posts that is
REAL must be a googled cut and paste.
6. You are the only one here that doesn't understand that. Does that
tell you anything?


================


And Tom posts online games. Either be consistent and complain about
everyone's cut & paste jobs, or stop complaining about any of them.
There's
no middle allowed.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


What in HELL does Tom posting online games have to do with the FACT
that Harry is a chronic liar????????
(See #1).
Are you really so thick headed that you don't comprehend that the meat
of MY reply is that Harry is a chronic liar, and no one would have
believed him if it weren't for a google cut and paste?

Wheeewww.......

==============

You're sputtering. Is there anything I can do to help make it worse?- Hide
quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


I'm sputtering? You're the dumb ass that can understand a few simple
sentences.

============

You said Harry was a liar. Maybe you should choose a different discussion
for proving your point, because his post didn't prove your point, nor has
anything he's said in this discussion.



John H[_8_] January 9th 09 10:03 PM

'Real' Unemployment Rate: 13% +
 
On Fri, 9 Jan 2009 16:24:00 -0500, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

wrote in message
...
On Jan 9, 3:01 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
wrote in message

...
On Jan 9, 1:36 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:





wrote in message


...
On Jan 9, 1:02 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:


wrote in message


...
On Jan 9, 12:47 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:


wrote in message


...
On Jan 9, 12:29 pm, hk wrote:


http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.t12.htm


Good thing it was nothing but a googled cut and paste, because we
all
know YOU never post anything "real". Right, Mr. Lobster boat owner?


===============


If he stated the 13% number WITHOUT a valid source, you'd say he was
inventing the number. He provided a source, and you're complaining.


Make up your mind. Source or no source?


Where did I complain about the "valid source"????
Does this **** just pop into your brain, or do you have a legitimate
comprehension problem?


=============


What if YOU had run across the same interesting information and wanted
to
present it here? Show us how you would've presented it differently
than
Harry did.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Oh, holy hell, you really DON'T comprehend what I said to Harry, do
you??????
Let me try one more time, perhaps you can clear up your addled mind
just a tad.........
1. Harry has been known, and caught in numerous lies here.
2. Harry is also the newsgroup king of political cut and paste
articles.
3. Harry titled the thread "REAL Unemployment Rates"
4. I stated that it's a good thing it was a googled cut and paste,
because we all know Harry wouldn't post anything REAL on his own
(see #1)
5. That would make any SANE person comprehend this just as it was, a
reply stating that Harry lies constantly, so anything he posts that is
REAL must be a googled cut and paste.
6. You are the only one here that doesn't understand that. Does that
tell you anything?


================


And Tom posts online games. Either be consistent and complain about
everyone's cut & paste jobs, or stop complaining about any of them.
There's
no middle allowed.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


What in HELL does Tom posting online games have to do with the FACT
that Harry is a chronic liar????????
(See #1).
Are you really so thick headed that you don't comprehend that the meat
of MY reply is that Harry is a chronic liar, and no one would have
believed him if it weren't for a google cut and paste?

Wheeewww.......

==============

You're sputtering. Is there anything I can do to help make it worse?- Hide
quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


I'm sputtering? You're the dumb ass that can understand a few simple
sentences.

============

You said Harry was a liar. Maybe you should choose a different discussion
for proving your point, because his post didn't prove your point, nor has
anything he's said in this discussion.


Ask Harry about his lobsta boat. Or, ask him about his 'body hunting'
activities. That's always good for a laugh.

Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq.[_3_] January 9th 09 10:20 PM

'Real' Unemployment Rate: 13% +
 
hk wrote:
wrote:
On Fri, 9 Jan 2009 11:59:29 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

On Jan 9, 1:36 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
wrote in message

...

On Jan 9, 1:02 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:





wrote in message
...

On Jan 9, 12:47 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
wrote in message
...

On Jan 9, 12:29 pm, hk wrote:
http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.t12.htm
Good thing it was nothing but a googled cut and paste, because we all
know YOU never post anything "real". Right, Mr. Lobster boat owner?
===============
If he stated the 13% number WITHOUT a valid source, you'd say he was
inventing the number. He provided a source, and you're complaining.
Make up your mind. Source or no source?
Where did I complain about the "valid source"????
Does this **** just pop into your brain, or do you have a legitimate
comprehension problem?
=============
What if YOU had run across the same interesting information and
wanted to
present it here? Show us how you would've presented it differently
than
Harry did.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Oh, holy hell, you really DON'T comprehend what I said to Harry, do
you??????
Let me try one more time, perhaps you can clear up your addled mind
just a tad.........
1. Harry has been known, and caught in numerous lies here.
2. Harry is also the newsgroup king of political cut and paste
articles.
3. Harry titled the thread "REAL Unemployment Rates"
4. I stated that it's a good thing it was a googled cut and paste,
because we all know Harry wouldn't post anything REAL on his own
(see #1)
5. That would make any SANE person comprehend this just as it was, a
reply stating that Harry lies constantly, so anything he posts that is
REAL must be a googled cut and paste.
6. You are the only one here that doesn't understand that. Does that
tell you anything?

================

And Tom posts online games. Either be consistent and complain about
everyone's cut & paste jobs, or stop complaining about any of them.
There's
no middle allowed.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
What in HELL does Tom posting online games have to do with the FACT
that Harry is a chronic liar????????
(See #1).
Are you really so thick headed that you don't comprehend that the meat
of MY reply is that Harry is a chronic liar, and no one would have
believed him if it weren't for a google cut and paste?

Wheeewww.......


LIAR!



If there is anything in usenet easier than making Loogy twitter on the
end of a string, I haven't found it.


Harry,
You really are pretty easy.

Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq.[_3_] January 9th 09 10:24 PM

'Real' Unemployment Rate: 13% +
 
Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:
hk wrote:
wrote:
On Fri, 9 Jan 2009 11:59:29 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

On Jan 9, 1:36 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
wrote in message

...

On Jan 9, 1:02 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:





wrote in message
...

On Jan 9, 12:47 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
wrote in message
...

On Jan 9, 12:29 pm, hk wrote:
http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.t12.htm
Good thing it was nothing but a googled cut and paste, because we
all
know YOU never post anything "real". Right, Mr. Lobster boat owner?
===============
If he stated the 13% number WITHOUT a valid source, you'd say he was
inventing the number. He provided a source, and you're complaining.
Make up your mind. Source or no source?
Where did I complain about the "valid source"????
Does this **** just pop into your brain, or do you have a legitimate
comprehension problem?
=============
What if YOU had run across the same interesting information and
wanted to
present it here? Show us how you would've presented it differently
than
Harry did.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Oh, holy hell, you really DON'T comprehend what I said to Harry, do
you??????
Let me try one more time, perhaps you can clear up your addled mind
just a tad.........
1. Harry has been known, and caught in numerous lies here.
2. Harry is also the newsgroup king of political cut and paste
articles.
3. Harry titled the thread "REAL Unemployment Rates"
4. I stated that it's a good thing it was a googled cut and paste,
because we all know Harry wouldn't post anything REAL on his own
(see #1)
5. That would make any SANE person comprehend this just as it was, a
reply stating that Harry lies constantly, so anything he posts that is
REAL must be a googled cut and paste.
6. You are the only one here that doesn't understand that. Does that
tell you anything?

================

And Tom posts online games. Either be consistent and complain about
everyone's cut & paste jobs, or stop complaining about any of them.
There's
no middle allowed.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
What in HELL does Tom posting online games have to do with the FACT
that Harry is a chronic liar????????
(See #1).
Are you really so thick headed that you don't comprehend that the meat
of MY reply is that Harry is a chronic liar, and no one would have
believed him if it weren't for a google cut and paste?

Wheeewww.......

LIAR!



If there is anything in usenet easier than making Loogy twitter on the
end of a string, I haven't found it.


Harry,
You really are pretty easy.


I had to steal Canuck's sig file. Sorry.

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