On Sun, 28 Dec 2008 10:27:49 -0600, wrote:

On Sun, 28 Dec 2008 11:11:01 -0500, BAR wrote:

wrote:
On Sun, 28 Dec 2008 10:35:47 -0500, BAR wrote:


At best, Bush will be remembered by history as a mediocre President,
more likely, he will be remembered as one of the worst.
It will take 20 to 40 years to find out.

I'm just curious, what do you consider will be his successes?

He did rather than talked. When action was required he took action.

A trait of leadership is being able to make a decision. It may be the
wrong decision but at least it was a decision. Contrast this with Bush's
predecessor and follower who are afraid to make decisions when the
decision need to be made. Both Clinton and Obama will wait and wait and
then they may make the decision.

Decisiveness is only one trait of leadership, and it definitely helps if
you are right, but I was asking a serious question. I personally think
Bush is the worst President in my lifetime, but you obviously don't. I
was seriously asking what you think his successes will be. I'll give you
Iraq *could* eventually be a success, but what else has he done
successfully?

Iraq a success? Far too much blood and treasure just to kill one
relatively harmless [outside his borders, at least] asshole. They
should have sent about four gunsels and had done with him. They denied
his appeal and he swung in about three days. The guy who dragged
someone to death behind a pickup is still waiting to die after ten
years.

Casady

On Mon, 29 Dec 2008 12:46:00 +0000, Richard Casady wrote:


Iraq a success? Far too much blood and treasure just to kill one
relatively harmless [outside his borders, at least] asshole. They should
have sent about four gunsels and had done with him.

I can't disagree. We've shed as much American blood bringing democracy
to Iraq, as we shed during our own Revolutionary War. So far, there are
a little over 4,200 American KIA in Iraq. During the Revolutionary War,
there were 4,435 KIA.