On Dec 28, 11:27*am, wrote:
On Sun, 28 Dec 2008 11:11:01 -0500, BAR wrote:
wrote:
On Sun, 28 Dec 2008 10:35:47 -0500, BAR wrote:

At best, Bush will be remembered by history as a mediocre President,
more likely, he will be remembered as one of the worst.
It will take 20 to 40 years to find out.

I'm just curious, what do you consider will be his successes?

He did rather than talked. When action was required he took action.

A trait of leadership is being able to make a decision. It may be the
wrong decision but at least it was a decision. Contrast this with Bush's
predecessor and follower who are afraid to make decisions when the
decision need to be made. Both Clinton and Obama will wait and wait and
then they may make the decision.

Decisiveness is only one trait of leadership, and it definitely helps if
you are right, but I was asking a serious question. *I personally think
Bush is the worst President in my lifetime,

So, you are just a pup, born after the Carter administration? I
thought you were older. As to Clinton, he only made decisions based on
polls and getting re-elected and later financed into a nice rich
jetset lifestyle by the likes of Marc Rich, George Soros and earlier
the Chinese Military...

but you obviously don't. *I
was seriously asking what you think his successes will be. *I'll give you
Iraq *could* eventually be a success, but what else has he done
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On Sun, 28 Dec 2008 08:50:59 -0800, justwaitafrekinminute wrote:


So, you are just a pup, born after the Carter administration? I thought
you were older. As to Clinton, he only made decisions based on polls and
getting re-elected and later financed into a nice rich jetset lifestyle
by the likes of Marc Rich, George Soros and earlier the Chinese
Military...

Not that much of a pup. ;-( I think Carter was mediocre at best, but,
personally, I think Bush is the worst. It may come as a surprise to you,
but I never much cared for Clinton. I thought "Slick Willie" was an apt
nickname. However, I do have to admit a grudging respect for his
Presidency. We all got fat, and it was a Presidency of relatively
tranquil times. I didn't like the man, but he was a competent President.

On Dec 28, 12:06*pm, wrote:
On Sun, 28 Dec 2008 08:50:59 -0800, justwaitafrekinminute wrote:
So, you are just a pup, born after the Carter administration? I thought
you were older. As to Clinton, he only made decisions based on polls and
getting re-elected and later financed into a nice rich jetset lifestyle
by the likes of Marc Rich, George Soros and earlier the Chinese
Military...

Not that much of a pup. ;-( *I think Carter was mediocre at best, but,
personally, I think Bush is the worst. *It may come as a surprise to you,
but I never much cared for Clinton. *I thought "Slick Willie" was an apt
nickname. *However, I do have to admit a grudging respect for his
Presidency. *We all got fat, and it was a Presidency of relatively
tranquil times. *I didn't like the man, but he was a competent President.

On Sun, 28 Dec 2008 09:13:20 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

On Dec 28, 12:06Â*pm, wrote:
On Sun, 28 Dec 2008 08:50:59 -0800, justwaitafrekinminute wrote:
So, you are just a pup, born after the Carter administration? I thought
you were older. As to Clinton, he only made decisions based on polls and
getting re-elected and later financed into a nice rich jetset lifestyle
by the likes of Marc Rich, George Soros and earlier the Chinese
Military...

Not that much of a pup. ;-( Â*I think Carter was mediocre at best, but,
personally, I think Bush is the worst. Â*It may come as a surprise to you,
but I never much cared for Clinton. Â*I thought "Slick Willie" was an apt
nickname. Â*However, I do have to admit a grudging respect for his
Presidency. Â*We all got fat, and it was a Presidency of relatively
tranquil times. Â*I didn't like the man, but he was a competent President.

We got rich on paper, it was more or less like a ponzi scheme, kind of
like the Y2K hoax which really led to the crash of the electronics
industry in 02-03...

Later, remember he (Clinton) said he didn't care if we were all making
potato chips.. Then of course low skill jobs weren't good enough for
us during the Bush admin...

BTW, I was only kidding about the Pup thing

Respectfully, Scotty..

You better be. You're probably the Pup here among these geezers.

--Vic

On Sun, 28 Dec 2008 11:06:38 -0600, wrote:

On Sun, 28 Dec 2008 08:50:59 -0800, justwaitafrekinminute wrote:


So, you are just a pup, born after the Carter administration? I thought
you were older. As to Clinton, he only made decisions based on polls and
getting re-elected and later financed into a nice rich jetset lifestyle
by the likes of Marc Rich, George Soros and earlier the Chinese
Military...

Not that much of a pup. ;-( I think Carter was mediocre at best, but,
personally, I think Bush is the worst. It may come as a surprise to you,
but I never much cared for Clinton. I thought "Slick Willie" was an apt
nickname. However, I do have to admit a grudging respect for his
Presidency. We all got fat, and it was a Presidency of relatively
tranquil times. I didn't like the man, but he was a competent President.

He's a big part of what got us where we are economically, along with
Reagan and the Bushes.
Dependent on foreigners to produce our goods, and deeply in hock.
We'll see how that works out shortly.
Personally I don't think it will be pretty.
But I'm often wrong.

--Vic