Went to pick up my new(ish) tow vehicle, a 2007 Nissan 4wd Frontier
with 15,000 miles. After driving my old Nissan 4wd for 23 yrs, I
suppose I was not really prepared for modern tech. I got in, looked
around and declared angrily, "This thing isn't 4WD, where's the other
shift lever?". Salesman: "Uh, sir, new trucks have this switch here
to put it in 4H or 4L". Me: " A switch, thats all?". I really dont
know what to think of it, no shift lever to seem macho when its time
to climb up something. Am not really sure what to think of the auto
tranny either. After driving the old Nissan with 320,000 and the old
Dodge with an undertermined number of miles, ANYTHING else drives like
a car and it just doesnt FEEL TRUCKLIKE. Will just have to get used
to it. Maybe throw a buncha tools in the back to roll around and some
empty oil cans and it'll feel right.

On Dec 17, 10:00*pm, Frogwatch wrote:
Went to pick up my new(ish) tow vehicle, a 2007 Nissan 4wd Frontier
with 15,000 miles. *After driving my old Nissan 4wd for 23 yrs, I
suppose I was not really prepared for modern tech. *I got in, looked
around and declared angrily, "This thing isn't 4WD, where's the other
shift lever?". *Salesman: *"Uh, sir, new trucks have this switch here
to put it in 4H or 4L". *Me: *" A switch, thats all?". *I really dont
know what to think of it, no shift lever to seem macho when its time
to climb up something. *Am not really sure what to think of the auto
tranny either. *After driving the old Nissan with 320,000 and the old
Dodge with an undertermined number of miles, ANYTHING else drives like
a car and it just doesnt FEEL TRUCKLIKE. *Will just have to get used
to it. *Maybe throw a buncha tools in the back to roll around and some
empty oil cans and it'll feel right.

I don't think anybody makes a real truck anymore.. The last truck I
had that felt like a truck was my old Jeep CJ.. and you are right, two
shifters and you had to go outside to lock in the hubs... The Chevy
Blazer I drive now has less than 100,000 miles and because I have used
it like a truck, it's falling apart, literally...

On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 19:20:22 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

The Chevy
Blazer I drive now has less than 100,000 miles and because I have used
it like a truck, it's falling apart, literally...

It's not falling apart because you used it like a truck. It's
falling apart because the corporation that built it could give two
****z about quality and durability. That is why they are where they
are.

On Dec 17, 11:30*pm, Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 19:20:22 -0800 (PST),

wrote:
The Chevy
Blazer I drive now has less than 100,000 miles and because I have used
it like a truck, it's falling apart, literally...

It's not falling apart because you used it like a truck. * It's
falling apart because the corporation that built it could give two
****z about quality and durability. * That is why they are where they
are.

We are both right. I should be able to use a truck like a truck. ****,
the trailer I tow doesn't weigh 750 pounds loaded with the two bikes.
My boat and trailer only weighs less than 1000... The "truck" we
bought originally for the wife is really just a glorified car with bad
gas mileage... After 35 years of driving, I am looking at foreign
trucks for the first time ever. I just can't watch another American
car fall apart after 7 years... My Blazer is an 01 with less than
100,000, closer to 80,000. It's only been used as a truck for the last
15,000 or so. The doors are falling off the thing, the windshield is
falling out. Every contact point on the roof rack is leaking and
around the side windows, sunroof, the back gate won't stay open.. it
is a piece of ****... No more GM for me, and I used to work for them...

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On Dec 17, 11:30 pm, Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 19:20:22 -0800 (PST),

wrote:
The Chevy
Blazer I drive now has less than 100,000 miles and because I have used
it like a truck, it's falling apart, literally...

It's not falling apart because you used it like a truck. It's
falling apart because the corporation that built it could give two
****z about quality and durability. That is why they are where they
are.

We are both right. I should be able to use a truck like a truck. ****,
the trailer I tow doesn't weigh 750 pounds loaded with the two bikes.
My boat and trailer only weighs less than 1000... The "truck" we
bought originally for the wife is really just a glorified car with bad
gas mileage... After 35 years of driving, I am looking at foreign
trucks for the first time ever. I just can't watch another American
car fall apart after 7 years... My Blazer is an 01 with less than
100,000, closer to 80,000. It's only been used as a truck for the last
15,000 or so. The doors are falling off the thing, the windshield is
falling out. Every contact point on the roof rack is leaking and
around the side windows, sunroof, the back gate won't stay open.. it
is a piece of ****... No more GM for me, and I used to work for them...

My wife's 1996 Blazer still runs good, seat leather is split, and looking to
replace it. 142k miles. Seems as if the quality was good on hers.

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The doors are falling off the thing, the windshield is
falling out. Every contact point on the roof rack is leaking and
around the side windows, sunroof, the back gate won't stay open.. it
is a piece of ****... No more GM for me, and I used to work for them...


I could never figure out why GM has such a tough time designing window seals
that don't leak, particularly the rear window on cars. I've seen rust and
rot in those areas in all of the manufacturer's offerings, but for some
reason the ones built by GM seem to be far more prone to failure.

Eisboch

On Thu, 18 Dec 2008 02:47:22 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote:


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The doors are falling off the thing, the windshield is
falling out. Every contact point on the roof rack is leaking and
around the side windows, sunroof, the back gate won't stay open.. it
is a piece of ****... No more GM for me, and I used to work for them...


I could never figure out why GM has such a tough time designing window seals
that don't leak, particularly the rear window on cars. I've seen rust and
rot in those areas in all of the manufacturer's offerings, but for some
reason the ones built by GM seem to be far more prone to failure.

That might be personal perception.
Never seen that on any of my GM cars, or noticed it on any of the many
I've maintained. Have replaced a couple power window motors over the
years, but I have nothing to compare it against other brands since I
don't work on any others. Hasn't been a big deal.
BTW, one of my kids works all day on truck suspensions, and drives
them as part of his shake-downs.
The lighter pickups have quite different front suspensions, and he
prefers the Fords, though he's pure GM with his cars.
I think he said the GM 1500 has struts, and don't even think of
putting a plow on it, as many disappointed buyers have done.
Can't remember all the details he spouts out sometimes.
Like anything, you have to get into a bit before you buy, and most
people just believe what the dealer tells them.
I've heard plenty of bad things about Blazers, but people buy them
anyway. Maybe the looks, or they cost less than the competition.
But then Bill says his wife has a good one.
Sometimes TLC rules, and I really don't believe some cars get the care
that others do. Cars are wrapped up in a lot of psychology, and
there's a lot of irrationality in the relationship.
"Ergonomics" is especially a gold mine for that. In many cases it
means as much as what kind of legs you like on your woman.
The internet is real useful in getting detailed problem info.
Better than limited personal anecdotes, yours or mine.
Just as good are mechanics who work on the vehicles all day all the
time.
Dealer mechanics can tell you anything you want to know about a
particular vehicle. But you have to get them away from the service
writer.
Some independent specialists are almost as good. I lucked onto a
local mechanic whose clientele was 95% grey-haired GM car owners.
He's retired now, but was around a long time. You could ask him
about any common GM car and he had seen everything that could go wrong
and tell you how to prevent it or just accept it.
Used him before my son started doing my work, and never
had to go back twice. He wasn't cheap, nor too expensive.

--Vic

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On Dec 17, 11:30 pm, Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 19:20:22 -0800 (PST),

wrote:
The Chevy
Blazer I drive now has less than 100,000 miles and because I have used
it like a truck, it's falling apart, literally...

It's not falling apart because you used it like a truck. It's
falling apart because the corporation that built it could give two
****z about quality and durability. That is why they are where they
are.

We are both right. I should be able to use a truck like a truck. ****,
the trailer I tow doesn't weigh 750 pounds loaded with the two bikes.
My boat and trailer only weighs less than 1000... The "truck" we
bought originally for the wife is really just a glorified car with bad
gas mileage... After 35 years of driving, I am looking at foreign
trucks for the first time ever. I just can't watch another American
car fall apart after 7 years... My Blazer is an 01 with less than
100,000, closer to 80,000. It's only been used as a truck for the last
15,000 or so. The doors are falling off the thing, the windshield is
falling out. Every contact point on the roof rack is leaking and
around the side windows, sunroof, the back gate won't stay open.. it
is a piece of ****... No more GM for me, and I used to work for them...

************************************************** *************

That's a scary thought...a bunch of 'JustHate clones' assembling your new
$30K vehicle.
Toyota, here I come!

Don White wrote:
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On Dec 17, 11:30 pm, Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 19:20:22 -0800 (PST),

wrote:
The Chevy
Blazer I drive now has less than 100,000 miles and because I have used
it like a truck, it's falling apart, literally...
It's not falling apart because you used it like a truck. It's
falling apart because the corporation that built it could give two
****z about quality and durability. That is why they are where they
are.

We are both right. I should be able to use a truck like a truck. ****,
the trailer I tow doesn't weigh 750 pounds loaded with the two bikes.
My boat and trailer only weighs less than 1000... The "truck" we
bought originally for the wife is really just a glorified car with bad
gas mileage... After 35 years of driving, I am looking at foreign
trucks for the first time ever. I just can't watch another American
car fall apart after 7 years... My Blazer is an 01 with less than
100,000, closer to 80,000. It's only been used as a truck for the last
15,000 or so. The doors are falling off the thing, the windshield is
falling out. Every contact point on the roof rack is leaking and
around the side windows, sunroof, the back gate won't stay open.. it
is a piece of ****... No more GM for me, and I used to work for them...

************************************************** *************

That's a scary thought...a bunch of 'JustHate clones' assembling your new
$30K vehicle.
Toyota, here I come!


Where's your union solidarity?

On Dec 17, 11:05*pm, wrote:
On Dec 17, 11:30*pm, Wayne.B wrote:

On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 19:20:22 -0800 (PST),

wrote:
The Chevy
Blazer I drive now has less than 100,000 miles and because I have used
it like a truck, it's falling apart, literally...

It's not falling apart because you used it like a truck. * It's
falling apart because the corporation that built it could give two
****z about quality and durability. * That is why they are where they
are.

We are both right. I should be able to use a truck like a truck. ****,
the trailer I tow doesn't weigh 750 pounds loaded with the two bikes.
My boat and trailer only weighs less than 1000... The "truck" we
bought originally for the wife is really just a glorified car with bad
gas mileage... *After 35 years of driving, I am looking at foreign
trucks for the first time ever. I just can't watch another American
car fall apart after 7 years... My Blazer is an 01 with less than
100,000, closer to 80,000. It's only been used as a truck for the last
15,000 or so. The doors are falling off the thing, the windshield is
falling out. Every contact point on the roof rack is leaking and
around the side windows, sunroof, the back gate won't stay open.. it
is a piece of ****... No more GM for me, and I used to work for them...

Simple solution. Get an old mercury stationwagon. It's a half ton ford
pickup with a camper shell already made on it.

Works for me....