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Boater[_3_] December 21st 08 02:21 PM

Illinois or Louisiana?
 
Salmonbait wrote:
On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 08:58:24 -0500, Boater wrote:

BAR wrote:
Gunner Asch wrote:
On Thu, 18 Dec 2008 07:07:56 -0500, BAR wrote:

Ed Huntress wrote:
"spaco" wrote in message
.. .
Oh, I thought he meant the State Government.
I don't know about La., but my home state is Il. and it was
pretty crooked when the first Daly ran it from Chicago, and for a
long time before that. I wonder if "getting caught" is all that
separates one state from another that way?

Pete Stanaitis
We're ****ed here in NJ because we always prided ourselves in having
the most corrupt government in the land. Now the FBI tells us we're
only third.

Damn.
Has the City of Newark ever had a Mayor complete his term in office,
outside of the home for wayward government employees in Rahway?

Whats Marion Barry doing these days?
Mayor "Crackhead" Barry or Mayor "The bitch set me up" Barry? He is
serving on the city council in Washington DC
(http://www.dccouncil.us/BARRY/default.htm). He is the cat with 9 lives.


Barry as a criminal is a piker in comparison to Dick Cheney and his
gaggle of goons.


Why do you find it necessary to cross post, Harry? You complain that people
here are insulting you, yet you do things like that which invite negative
criticism.

Barry broke laws. Cheney did not.
--

Salmonbait


Ha!

Cheney simply ignored the laws he wanted to break. Cheney has done this
country great harm. Barry mostly harmed himself. It's too bad Obama has
taken payback off the table; I'd love to see a long, nasty trial of
Cheney and his cohorts, followed by some hard time for some of them.


Salmonbait December 21st 08 02:31 PM

Illinois or Louisiana?
 
On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 09:21:40 -0500, Boater wrote:

Salmonbait wrote:
On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 08:58:24 -0500, Boater wrote:

BAR wrote:
Gunner Asch wrote:
On Thu, 18 Dec 2008 07:07:56 -0500, BAR wrote:

Ed Huntress wrote:
"spaco" wrote in message
.. .
Oh, I thought he meant the State Government.
I don't know about La., but my home state is Il. and it was
pretty crooked when the first Daly ran it from Chicago, and for a
long time before that. I wonder if "getting caught" is all that
separates one state from another that way?

Pete Stanaitis
We're ****ed here in NJ because we always prided ourselves in having
the most corrupt government in the land. Now the FBI tells us we're
only third.

Damn.
Has the City of Newark ever had a Mayor complete his term in office,
outside of the home for wayward government employees in Rahway?

Whats Marion Barry doing these days?
Mayor "Crackhead" Barry or Mayor "The bitch set me up" Barry? He is
serving on the city council in Washington DC
(http://www.dccouncil.us/BARRY/default.htm). He is the cat with 9 lives.


Barry as a criminal is a piker in comparison to Dick Cheney and his
gaggle of goons.


Why do you find it necessary to cross post, Harry? You complain that people
here are insulting you, yet you do things like that which invite negative
criticism.

Barry broke laws. Cheney did not.
--

Salmonbait


Ha!

Cheney simply ignored the laws he wanted to break. Cheney has done this
country great harm. Barry mostly harmed himself. It's too bad Obama has
taken payback off the table; I'd love to see a long, nasty trial of
Cheney and his cohorts, followed by some hard time for some of them.


Why do you find it necessary to cross post, Harry? You complain that people
here are insulting you, yet you do things like that which invite negative
criticism.

BTW, you missed the second half of my post: Now, what about personal
insults and name-calling, don't you think it's time to quit?

Cheney and Bush, by getting rid of Saddam, instituting a democracy in Iraq,
and highly damaged Al Qaeda have done the world a great service.

Now, show some courage and respond to the first two paragraphs.
--

Salmonbait

BAR[_3_] December 21st 08 02:49 PM

Illinois or Louisiana?
 
Boater wrote:
Salmonbait wrote:
On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 08:58:24 -0500, Boater
wrote:

BAR wrote:
Gunner Asch wrote:
On Thu, 18 Dec 2008 07:07:56 -0500, BAR wrote:

Ed Huntress wrote:
"spaco" wrote in message
.. .
Oh, I thought he meant the State Government.
I don't know about La., but my home state is Il. and it was
pretty crooked when the first Daly ran it from Chicago, and for
a long time before that. I wonder if "getting caught" is all
that separates one state from another that way?

Pete Stanaitis
We're ****ed here in NJ because we always prided ourselves in
having the most corrupt government in the land. Now the FBI tells
us we're only third.

Damn.
Has the City of Newark ever had a Mayor complete his term in
office, outside of the home for wayward government employees in
Rahway?

Whats Marion Barry doing these days?
Mayor "Crackhead" Barry or Mayor "The bitch set me up" Barry? He is
serving on the city council in Washington DC
(http://www.dccouncil.us/BARRY/default.htm). He is the cat with 9
lives.


Barry as a criminal is a piker in comparison to Dick Cheney and his
gaggle of goons.


Why do you find it necessary to cross post, Harry? You complain that
people
here are insulting you, yet you do things like that which invite negative
criticism.
Barry broke laws. Cheney did not. --

Salmonbait


Ha!

Cheney simply ignored the laws he wanted to break. Cheney has done this
country great harm. Barry mostly harmed himself. It's too bad Obama has
taken payback off the table; I'd love to see a long, nasty trial of
Cheney and his cohorts, followed by some hard time for some of them.


Which articles of the Constitution did Cheney break?

atlas bugged December 21st 08 04:46 PM

OT Illinois or Louisiana?
 
"Ed" wrote in message
.. .
, 18 Dec 2008 07:07:56 -0500, BAR wrote:

Ed Huntress wrote:
"spaco" wrote in message
.. .
Oh, I thought he meant the State Government.
I don't know about La., but my home state is Il. and it was pretty
crooked when the first Daly ran it from Chicago, and for a long time
before that. I wonder if "getting caught" is all that separates one
state
from another that way?





I always hate OT but since I grew up in IL and went to undergrad in LA
(Tulane) I couldn't resist

IL (Actually Chicago) has ALWAYS been more corrupt than LA... since the
days of Cappone and then the first mayor Daly. They were always just
much smarter about not getting caught until the more recent years.
BTW.. the city (Chicago) always runs BETTER and more efficiently with a
corrupt mayor.

Also interesting fact (I use the word fact lightly) According to the FBI
only 48% of the murderers in the US ever serve time.... in recent history
50% of the IL Gov's will serve time.. so... you are more likely to go to
prison if you are elected as Gov of IL than if you committ MURDER!!!!
:-)

I am glad I now live in South Florida... a beautiful little Banana
republic where we expect our politicians to be on the take.... Look out
NJ... we are coming up fast in the outer lane!!! you could be #4.


nail on head

True! I am so mortified that my proud home state of NJ is getting eclipsed
by places like Illinois.

We need a PR firm for our corruption. We need better and more newsworthy
corruption.

But how do you compete when your closest neighbor elects a governor who made
his name tracking down prostitution rings, then gets caught in bed with a
skanky $1000/hour hooker?


Cujo DeSockpuppet[_2_] December 21st 08 05:12 PM

OT Illinois or Louisiana?
 
"atlas bugged" wrote in
:

"Ed" wrote in message
.. .
, 18 Dec 2008 07:07:56 -0500, BAR wrote:

Ed Huntress wrote:
"spaco" wrote in message
.. .
Oh, I thought he meant the State Government.
I don't know about La., but my home state is Il. and it was
pretty
crooked when the first Daly ran it from Chicago, and for a long
time before that. I wonder if "getting caught" is all that
separates one state
from another that way?





I always hate OT but since I grew up in IL and went to undergrad in
LA (Tulane) I couldn't resist

IL (Actually Chicago) has ALWAYS been more corrupt than LA... since
the days of Cappone and then the first mayor Daly. They were
always just much smarter about not getting caught until the more
recent years. BTW.. the city (Chicago) always runs BETTER and more
efficiently with a corrupt mayor.

Also interesting fact (I use the word fact lightly) According to
the FBI only 48% of the murderers in the US ever serve time.... in
recent history 50% of the IL Gov's will serve time.. so... you are
more likely to go to prison if you are elected as Gov of IL than if
you committ MURDER!!!!
:-)

I am glad I now live in South Florida... a beautiful little Banana
republic where we expect our politicians to be on the take.... Look
out NJ... we are coming up fast in the outer lane!!! you could be #4.


nail on head

True! I am so mortified that my proud home state of NJ is getting
eclipsed by places like Illinois.

We need a PR firm for our corruption. We need better and more
newsworthy corruption.

But how do you compete when your closest neighbor elects a governor
who made his name tracking down prostitution rings, then gets caught
in bed with a skanky $1000/hour hooker?


You could try butt****ing yourself with an electrified garden weasel on
national TV. Get back to us (tinu) when you've tried it. I'd suggest you
do so before R. Budd Dwyer[1] comes back and beats you to it.

[1] His method is a nice option for you too!

--
Cujo - The Official Overseer of Kooks and Trolls in dfw.*,
alt.paranormal, alt.astrology and alt.astrology.metapsych. Supreme Holy
Overlord of alt.****nozzles. Winner of the 8/2000, 2/2003 & 4/2007 HL&S
award. July 2005 Hammer of Thor. Winning Trainer - Barbara Woodhouse
Memorial Dog Whistle - 12/2005 & 4/2008. COOSN-266-06-01895.
"Hence, because of the book I wrote, my credibility is etched
in history." - Edmo the self-published fool.

Ed Huntress December 21st 08 07:31 PM

OT Illinois or Louisiana?
 

"john" wrote in message
...


Ed Huntress wrote:

"atlas bugged" wrote in message
...

"Ed" wrote in message
t...

, 18 Dec 2008 07:07:56 -0500, BAR wrote:

Ed Huntress wrote:

"spaco" wrote in message
news:4ZOdnbfJIsqxp9TUnZ2dnUVZ_vednZ2d@brigh t.net...

Oh, I thought he meant the State Government.
I don't know about La., but my home state is Il. and it was
pretty
crooked when the first Daly ran it from Chicago, and for a long time
before that. I wonder if "getting caught" is all that separates one
state
from another that way?


I always hate OT but since I grew up in IL and went to undergrad in LA
(Tulane) I couldn't resist

IL (Actually Chicago) has ALWAYS been more corrupt than LA... since the
days of Cappone and then the first mayor Daly. They were always just
much smarter about not getting caught until the more recent years. BTW..
the city (Chicago) always runs BETTER and more efficiently with a
corrupt mayor.

Also interesting fact (I use the word fact lightly) According to the
FBI only 48% of the murderers in the US ever serve time.... in recent
history 50% of the IL Gov's will serve time.. so... you are more likely
to go to prison if you are elected as Gov of IL than if you committ
MURDER!!!! :-)

I am glad I now live in South Florida... a beautiful little Banana
republic where we expect our politicians to be on the take.... Look out
NJ... we are coming up fast in the outer lane!!! you could be #4.

nail on head

True! I am so mortified that my proud home state of NJ is getting
eclipsed by places like Illinois.

We need a PR firm for our corruption. We need better and more newsworthy
corruption.

But how do you compete when your closest neighbor elects a governor who
made his name tracking down prostitution rings, then gets caught in bed
with a skanky $1000/hour hooker?



We have our work cut out for us, all right. The trouble is that our
corrupt politicians don't think big enough. We've become small-timers in
the bigger scheme of things. Our guys think that a new cabin cruiser,
season Jets tickets, and a couple of bimbos serving drinks in the luxury
suites at Yankee Stadium is living in corrupt luxury.

What we need is politicians who know what they can command in the
marketplace. Maybe we can get them some help from MLB players' agents.

--
Ed Huntress


Ed, I think you have come up with a new profession, a corruption and take
manager for politicans. The cover name for the office is political
expiditer. Politicians themselves seem to blow it when it comes to being
on the take.


John


I still think that hiring them from the ranks of MLB players' agents is the
way to go. If they can get $82.5 million for A.J. Burnett, they can
revolutionize New Jersey's political corruption.

--
Ed Huntress



Boater[_3_] December 21st 08 07:39 PM

OT Illinois or Louisiana?
 
Ed Huntress wrote:
"john" wrote in message
...

Ed Huntress wrote:

"atlas bugged" wrote in message
...

"Ed" wrote in message
.. .

, 18 Dec 2008 07:07:56 -0500, BAR wrote:

Ed Huntress wrote:

"spaco" wrote in message
.. .

Oh, I thought he meant the State Government.
I don't know about La., but my home state is Il. and it was
pretty
crooked when the first Daly ran it from Chicago, and for a long time
before that. I wonder if "getting caught" is all that separates one
state
from another that way?
I always hate OT but since I grew up in IL and went to undergrad in LA
(Tulane) I couldn't resist

IL (Actually Chicago) has ALWAYS been more corrupt than LA... since the
days of Cappone and then the first mayor Daly. They were always just
much smarter about not getting caught until the more recent years. BTW..
the city (Chicago) always runs BETTER and more efficiently with a
corrupt mayor.

Also interesting fact (I use the word fact lightly) According to the
FBI only 48% of the murderers in the US ever serve time.... in recent
history 50% of the IL Gov's will serve time.. so... you are more likely
to go to prison if you are elected as Gov of IL than if you committ
MURDER!!!! :-)

I am glad I now live in South Florida... a beautiful little Banana
republic where we expect our politicians to be on the take.... Look out
NJ... we are coming up fast in the outer lane!!! you could be #4.
nail on head

True! I am so mortified that my proud home state of NJ is getting
eclipsed by places like Illinois.

We need a PR firm for our corruption. We need better and more newsworthy
corruption.

But how do you compete when your closest neighbor elects a governor who
made his name tracking down prostitution rings, then gets caught in bed
with a skanky $1000/hour hooker?

We have our work cut out for us, all right. The trouble is that our
corrupt politicians don't think big enough. We've become small-timers in
the bigger scheme of things. Our guys think that a new cabin cruiser,
season Jets tickets, and a couple of bimbos serving drinks in the luxury
suites at Yankee Stadium is living in corrupt luxury.

What we need is politicians who know what they can command in the
marketplace. Maybe we can get them some help from MLB players' agents.

--
Ed Huntress

Ed, I think you have come up with a new profession, a corruption and take
manager for politicans. The cover name for the office is political
expiditer. Politicians themselves seem to blow it when it comes to being
on the take.


John


I still think that hiring them from the ranks of MLB players' agents is the
way to go. If they can get $82.5 million for A.J. Burnett, they can
revolutionize New Jersey's political corruption.

--
Ed Huntress




I wouldn't bet my last dollar on Illinois or Lousiana being the "most
corrupt" states.

Ed Huntress December 21st 08 07:53 PM

OT Illinois or Louisiana?
 

"Boater" wrote in message
...
Ed Huntress wrote:
"john" wrote in message
...

Ed Huntress wrote:

"atlas bugged" wrote in message
...

"Ed" wrote in message
.. .

, 18 Dec 2008 07:07:56 -0500, BAR wrote:

Ed Huntress wrote:

"spaco" wrote in message
.. .

Oh, I thought he meant the State Government.
I don't know about La., but my home state is Il. and it was
pretty
crooked when the first Daly ran it from Chicago, and for a long
time
before that. I wonder if "getting caught" is all that separates
one state
from another that way?
I always hate OT but since I grew up in IL and went to undergrad in
LA (Tulane) I couldn't resist

IL (Actually Chicago) has ALWAYS been more corrupt than LA... since
the days of Cappone and then the first mayor Daly. They were
always just much smarter about not getting caught until the more
recent years. BTW.. the city (Chicago) always runs BETTER and more
efficiently with a corrupt mayor.

Also interesting fact (I use the word fact lightly) According to
the FBI only 48% of the murderers in the US ever serve time.... in
recent history 50% of the IL Gov's will serve time.. so... you are
more likely to go to prison if you are elected as Gov of IL than if
you committ MURDER!!!! :-)

I am glad I now live in South Florida... a beautiful little Banana
republic where we expect our politicians to be on the take.... Look
out NJ... we are coming up fast in the outer lane!!! you could be #4.
nail on head

True! I am so mortified that my proud home state of NJ is getting
eclipsed by places like Illinois.

We need a PR firm for our corruption. We need better and more
newsworthy corruption.

But how do you compete when your closest neighbor elects a governor
who made his name tracking down prostitution rings, then gets caught
in bed with a skanky $1000/hour hooker?

We have our work cut out for us, all right. The trouble is that our
corrupt politicians don't think big enough. We've become small-timers
in the bigger scheme of things. Our guys think that a new cabin
cruiser, season Jets tickets, and a couple of bimbos serving drinks in
the luxury suites at Yankee Stadium is living in corrupt luxury.

What we need is politicians who know what they can command in the
marketplace. Maybe we can get them some help from MLB players' agents.

--
Ed Huntress
Ed, I think you have come up with a new profession, a corruption and
take manager for politicans. The cover name for the office is political
expiditer. Politicians themselves seem to blow it when it comes to
being on the take.


John


I still think that hiring them from the ranks of MLB players' agents is
the way to go. If they can get $82.5 million for A.J. Burnett, they can
revolutionize New Jersey's political corruption.

--
Ed Huntress



I wouldn't bet my last dollar on Illinois or Lousiana being the "most
corrupt" states.


I dunno. I'm still cheering for NJ. But the FBI must have some basis for
making the judgment. We'll have to ask them.

--
Ed Huntress



Boater[_3_] December 21st 08 08:02 PM

OT Illinois or Louisiana?
 
Ed Huntress wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...
Ed Huntress wrote:
"john" wrote in message
...
Ed Huntress wrote:

"atlas bugged" wrote in message
...

"Ed" wrote in message
.. .

, 18 Dec 2008 07:07:56 -0500, BAR wrote:

Ed Huntress wrote:

"spaco" wrote in message
.. .

Oh, I thought he meant the State Government.
I don't know about La., but my home state is Il. and it was
pretty
crooked when the first Daly ran it from Chicago, and for a long
time
before that. I wonder if "getting caught" is all that separates
one state
from another that way?
I always hate OT but since I grew up in IL and went to undergrad in
LA (Tulane) I couldn't resist

IL (Actually Chicago) has ALWAYS been more corrupt than LA... since
the days of Cappone and then the first mayor Daly. They were
always just much smarter about not getting caught until the more
recent years. BTW.. the city (Chicago) always runs BETTER and more
efficiently with a corrupt mayor.

Also interesting fact (I use the word fact lightly) According to
the FBI only 48% of the murderers in the US ever serve time.... in
recent history 50% of the IL Gov's will serve time.. so... you are
more likely to go to prison if you are elected as Gov of IL than if
you committ MURDER!!!! :-)

I am glad I now live in South Florida... a beautiful little Banana
republic where we expect our politicians to be on the take.... Look
out NJ... we are coming up fast in the outer lane!!! you could be #4.
nail on head

True! I am so mortified that my proud home state of NJ is getting
eclipsed by places like Illinois.

We need a PR firm for our corruption. We need better and more
newsworthy corruption.

But how do you compete when your closest neighbor elects a governor
who made his name tracking down prostitution rings, then gets caught
in bed with a skanky $1000/hour hooker?
We have our work cut out for us, all right. The trouble is that our
corrupt politicians don't think big enough. We've become small-timers
in the bigger scheme of things. Our guys think that a new cabin
cruiser, season Jets tickets, and a couple of bimbos serving drinks in
the luxury suites at Yankee Stadium is living in corrupt luxury.

What we need is politicians who know what they can command in the
marketplace. Maybe we can get them some help from MLB players' agents.

--
Ed Huntress
Ed, I think you have come up with a new profession, a corruption and
take manager for politicans. The cover name for the office is political
expiditer. Politicians themselves seem to blow it when it comes to
being on the take.


John
I still think that hiring them from the ranks of MLB players' agents is
the way to go. If they can get $82.5 million for A.J. Burnett, they can
revolutionize New Jersey's political corruption.

--
Ed Huntress


I wouldn't bet my last dollar on Illinois or Lousiana being the "most
corrupt" states.


I dunno. I'm still cheering for NJ. But the FBI must have some basis for
making the judgment. We'll have to ask them.

--
Ed Huntress




I see no reason to trust any agency connected to the Bush Administration
Justice Department. Which is not to say I think Blago should remain in
office.

Cliff December 21st 08 08:28 PM

OT Illinois or Louisiana?
 
On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 11:46:48 -0500, "atlas bugged"
wrote:

"Ed" wrote in message
. ..
, 18 Dec 2008 07:07:56 -0500, BAR wrote:

Ed Huntress wrote:
"spaco" wrote in message
.. .
Oh, I thought he meant the State Government.
I don't know about La., but my home state is Il. and it was pretty
crooked when the first Daly ran it from Chicago, and for a long time
before that. I wonder if "getting caught" is all that separates one
state
from another that way?





I always hate OT but since I grew up in IL and went to undergrad in LA
(Tulane) I couldn't resist

IL (Actually Chicago) has ALWAYS been more corrupt than LA... since the
days of Cappone and then the first mayor Daly. They were always just
much smarter about not getting caught until the more recent years.
BTW.. the city (Chicago) always runs BETTER and more efficiently with a
corrupt mayor.

Also interesting fact (I use the word fact lightly) According to the FBI
only 48% of the murderers in the US ever serve time.... in recent history
50% of the IL Gov's will serve time.. so... you are more likely to go to
prison if you are elected as Gov of IL than if you committ MURDER!!!!
:-)

I am glad I now live in South Florida... a beautiful little Banana
republic where we expect our politicians to be on the take.... Look out
NJ... we are coming up fast in the outer lane!!! you could be #4.


nail on head

True! I am so mortified that my proud home state of NJ is getting eclipsed
by places like Illinois.

We need a PR firm for our corruption. We need better and more newsworthy
corruption.

But how do you compete when your closest neighbor elects a governor who made
his name tracking down prostitution rings, then gets caught in bed with a
skanky $1000/hour hooker?


http://www.nesfa.org/press/Books/Lew...ordance-R.html
[
Raumsog, Lord

Ruler of the planet Raumsog's World. He tried to attack Old Earth, bribed the
Instrumentality (this never works), imprisoned the Go-Captains, killed the
pinlighters [but, one hopes, not the partners]; he was defeated by the golden
ship. Killed on his planet.
]

[
On Earth the lords of the Instrumentality met. The presiding chairman
looked about and said, "Well, gentlemen, all of us have been bribed by
Raumsog. We have all been paid off individually. I myself received six
ounces of stroon in pure form. Will the rest of you show better bargains?"

Around the room, the councilors announced the amount of their bribes.

The chairman turned to the secretary. "Enter the bribes in the record and
then mark the record off-the-record."

The others nodded gravely.

Golden The Ship Was - Oh! Oh! Oh!:1-1 Paul Linebarger
]

[
On a very remote planet, the survivors of a Raumsog cruiser were released
from internment. By special orders, direct from Earth, their memories had
been discoordinated so that they would not reveal the pattern of defeat. An
obstinate reporter kept after one spaceman. After many hour of hard drinking
the survivor's answer was the same:

"Golden the ship was - oh! oh! oh! Golden the ship was - oh! oh! oh!"

9-1: Golden The Ship Was, Oh! Oh! Oh! by Paul Linebarger
]

Salmonbait December 21st 08 08:48 PM

OT Illinois or Louisiana?
 
On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 14:39:59 -0500, Boater wrote:

Ed Huntress wrote:
"john" wrote in message
...

Ed Huntress wrote:

"atlas bugged" wrote in message
...

"Ed" wrote in message
.. .

, 18 Dec 2008 07:07:56 -0500, BAR wrote:

Ed Huntress wrote:

"spaco" wrote in message
.. .

Oh, I thought he meant the State Government.
I don't know about La., but my home state is Il. and it was
pretty
crooked when the first Daly ran it from Chicago, and for a long time
before that. I wonder if "getting caught" is all that separates one
state
from another that way?
I always hate OT but since I grew up in IL and went to undergrad in LA
(Tulane) I couldn't resist

IL (Actually Chicago) has ALWAYS been more corrupt than LA... since the
days of Cappone and then the first mayor Daly. They were always just
much smarter about not getting caught until the more recent years. BTW..
the city (Chicago) always runs BETTER and more efficiently with a
corrupt mayor.

Also interesting fact (I use the word fact lightly) According to the
FBI only 48% of the murderers in the US ever serve time.... in recent
history 50% of the IL Gov's will serve time.. so... you are more likely
to go to prison if you are elected as Gov of IL than if you committ
MURDER!!!! :-)

I am glad I now live in South Florida... a beautiful little Banana
republic where we expect our politicians to be on the take.... Look out
NJ... we are coming up fast in the outer lane!!! you could be #4.
nail on head

True! I am so mortified that my proud home state of NJ is getting
eclipsed by places like Illinois.

We need a PR firm for our corruption. We need better and more newsworthy
corruption.

But how do you compete when your closest neighbor elects a governor who
made his name tracking down prostitution rings, then gets caught in bed
with a skanky $1000/hour hooker?

We have our work cut out for us, all right. The trouble is that our
corrupt politicians don't think big enough. We've become small-timers in
the bigger scheme of things. Our guys think that a new cabin cruiser,
season Jets tickets, and a couple of bimbos serving drinks in the luxury
suites at Yankee Stadium is living in corrupt luxury.

What we need is politicians who know what they can command in the
marketplace. Maybe we can get them some help from MLB players' agents.

--
Ed Huntress
Ed, I think you have come up with a new profession, a corruption and take
manager for politicans. The cover name for the office is political
expiditer. Politicians themselves seem to blow it when it comes to being
on the take.


John


I still think that hiring them from the ranks of MLB players' agents is the
way to go. If they can get $82.5 million for A.J. Burnett, they can
revolutionize New Jersey's political corruption.

--
Ed Huntress




I wouldn't bet my last dollar on Illinois or Lousiana being the "most
corrupt" states.


Why the crossposting, Harry. You get horribly upset when people insult you,
but you persist in this type behavior. You don't have to go to other groups
for support.
--

Salmonbait

Salmonbait December 21st 08 08:48 PM

OT Illinois or Louisiana?
 
On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 15:02:17 -0500, Boater wrote:

Ed Huntress wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...
Ed Huntress wrote:
"john" wrote in message
...
Ed Huntress wrote:

"atlas bugged" wrote in message
...

"Ed" wrote in message
.. .

, 18 Dec 2008 07:07:56 -0500, BAR wrote:

Ed Huntress wrote:

"spaco" wrote in message
.. .

Oh, I thought he meant the State Government.
I don't know about La., but my home state is Il. and it was
pretty
crooked when the first Daly ran it from Chicago, and for a long
time
before that. I wonder if "getting caught" is all that separates
one state
from another that way?
I always hate OT but since I grew up in IL and went to undergrad in
LA (Tulane) I couldn't resist

IL (Actually Chicago) has ALWAYS been more corrupt than LA... since
the days of Cappone and then the first mayor Daly. They were
always just much smarter about not getting caught until the more
recent years. BTW.. the city (Chicago) always runs BETTER and more
efficiently with a corrupt mayor.

Also interesting fact (I use the word fact lightly) According to
the FBI only 48% of the murderers in the US ever serve time.... in
recent history 50% of the IL Gov's will serve time.. so... you are
more likely to go to prison if you are elected as Gov of IL than if
you committ MURDER!!!! :-)

I am glad I now live in South Florida... a beautiful little Banana
republic where we expect our politicians to be on the take.... Look
out NJ... we are coming up fast in the outer lane!!! you could be #4.
nail on head

True! I am so mortified that my proud home state of NJ is getting
eclipsed by places like Illinois.

We need a PR firm for our corruption. We need better and more
newsworthy corruption.

But how do you compete when your closest neighbor elects a governor
who made his name tracking down prostitution rings, then gets caught
in bed with a skanky $1000/hour hooker?
We have our work cut out for us, all right. The trouble is that our
corrupt politicians don't think big enough. We've become small-timers
in the bigger scheme of things. Our guys think that a new cabin
cruiser, season Jets tickets, and a couple of bimbos serving drinks in
the luxury suites at Yankee Stadium is living in corrupt luxury.

What we need is politicians who know what they can command in the
marketplace. Maybe we can get them some help from MLB players' agents.

--
Ed Huntress
Ed, I think you have come up with a new profession, a corruption and
take manager for politicans. The cover name for the office is political
expiditer. Politicians themselves seem to blow it when it comes to
being on the take.


John
I still think that hiring them from the ranks of MLB players' agents is
the way to go. If they can get $82.5 million for A.J. Burnett, they can
revolutionize New Jersey's political corruption.

--
Ed Huntress

I wouldn't bet my last dollar on Illinois or Lousiana being the "most
corrupt" states.


I dunno. I'm still cheering for NJ. But the FBI must have some basis for
making the judgment. We'll have to ask them.

--
Ed Huntress




I see no reason to trust any agency connected to the Bush Administration
Justice Department. Which is not to say I think Blago should remain in
office.


Do you see any good reason to cross post?
--

Salmonbait

john December 21st 08 08:49 PM

OT Illinois or Louisiana?
 


Ed Huntress wrote:

"Boater" wrote in message
...

Ed Huntress wrote:

"john" wrote in message
news:NZadnevYEdHfEtPUnZ2dnUVZ_ovinZ2d@giganews. com...

Ed Huntress wrote:


"atlas bugged" wrote in message
...


"Ed" wrote in message
.net...


, 18 Dec 2008 07:07:56 -0500, BAR wrote:


Ed Huntress wrote:


"spaco" wrote in message
news:4ZOdnbfJIsqxp9TUnZ2dnUVZ_vednZ2d@br ight.net...


Oh, I thought he meant the State Government.
I don't know about La., but my home state is Il. and it was
pretty
crooked when the first Daly ran it from Chicago, and for a long
time
before that. I wonder if "getting caught" is all that separates
one state

from another that way?

I always hate OT but since I grew up in IL and went to undergrad in
LA (Tulane) I couldn't resist

IL (Actually Chicago) has ALWAYS been more corrupt than LA... since
the days of Cappone and then the first mayor Daly. They were
always just much smarter about not getting caught until the more
recent years. BTW.. the city (Chicago) always runs BETTER and more
efficiently with a corrupt mayor.

Also interesting fact (I use the word fact lightly) According to
the FBI only 48% of the murderers in the US ever serve time.... in
recent history 50% of the IL Gov's will serve time.. so... you are
more likely to go to prison if you are elected as Gov of IL than if
you committ MURDER!!!! :-)

I am glad I now live in South Florida... a beautiful little Banana
republic where we expect our politicians to be on the take.... Look
out NJ... we are coming up fast in the outer lane!!! you could be #4.

nail on head

True! I am so mortified that my proud home state of NJ is getting
eclipsed by places like Illinois.

We need a PR firm for our corruption. We need better and more
newsworthy corruption.

But how do you compete when your closest neighbor elects a governor
who made his name tracking down prostitution rings, then gets caught
in bed with a skanky $1000/hour hooker?

We have our work cut out for us, all right. The trouble is that our
corrupt politicians don't think big enough. We've become small-timers
in the bigger scheme of things. Our guys think that a new cabin
cruiser, season Jets tickets, and a couple of bimbos serving drinks in
the luxury suites at Yankee Stadium is living in corrupt luxury.

What we need is politicians who know what they can command in the
marketplace. Maybe we can get them some help from MLB players' agents.

--
Ed Huntress

Ed, I think you have come up with a new profession, a corruption and
take manager for politicans. The cover name for the office is political
expiditer. Politicians themselves seem to blow it when it comes to
being on the take.


John

I still think that hiring them from the ranks of MLB players' agents is
the way to go. If they can get $82.5 million for A.J. Burnett, they can
revolutionize New Jersey's political corruption.

--
Ed Huntress



I wouldn't bet my last dollar on Illinois or Lousiana being the "most
corrupt" states.



I dunno. I'm still cheering for NJ. But the FBI must have some basis for
making the judgment. We'll have to ask them.

--
Ed Huntress



Pennsylvania is in the running. Luzurne county is near the top as to
corrupt countys. They got caught using county credit cards for
personal use and only had to pay back the money they charged. This is
the least of all their transgressions.


John


Ed Huntress December 21st 08 09:01 PM

OT Illinois or Louisiana?
 

"john" wrote in message
...


Ed Huntress wrote:

"Boater" wrote in message
...

Ed Huntress wrote:

"john" wrote in message
news:NZadnevYEdHfEtPUnZ2dnUVZ_ovinZ2d@giganews .com...

Ed Huntress wrote:


"atlas bugged" wrote in message
...


"Ed" wrote in message
h.net...


, 18 Dec 2008 07:07:56 -0500, BAR wrote:


Ed Huntress wrote:


"spaco" wrote in message
news:4ZOdnbfJIsqxp9TUnZ2dnUVZ_vednZ2d@b right.net...


Oh, I thought he meant the State Government.
I don't know about La., but my home state is Il. and it was
pretty
crooked when the first Daly ran it from Chicago, and for a long
time
before that. I wonder if "getting caught" is all that separates
one state

from another that way?

I always hate OT but since I grew up in IL and went to undergrad in
LA (Tulane) I couldn't resist

IL (Actually Chicago) has ALWAYS been more corrupt than LA... since
the days of Cappone and then the first mayor Daly. They were
always just much smarter about not getting caught until the more
recent years. BTW.. the city (Chicago) always runs BETTER and more
efficiently with a corrupt mayor.

Also interesting fact (I use the word fact lightly) According to
the FBI only 48% of the murderers in the US ever serve time.... in
recent history 50% of the IL Gov's will serve time.. so... you are
more likely to go to prison if you are elected as Gov of IL than if
you committ MURDER!!!! :-)

I am glad I now live in South Florida... a beautiful little Banana
republic where we expect our politicians to be on the take.... Look
out NJ... we are coming up fast in the outer lane!!! you could be
#4.

nail on head

True! I am so mortified that my proud home state of NJ is getting
eclipsed by places like Illinois.

We need a PR firm for our corruption. We need better and more
newsworthy corruption.

But how do you compete when your closest neighbor elects a governor
who made his name tracking down prostitution rings, then gets caught
in bed with a skanky $1000/hour hooker?

We have our work cut out for us, all right. The trouble is that our
corrupt politicians don't think big enough. We've become small-timers
in the bigger scheme of things. Our guys think that a new cabin
cruiser, season Jets tickets, and a couple of bimbos serving drinks in
the luxury suites at Yankee Stadium is living in corrupt luxury.

What we need is politicians who know what they can command in the
marketplace. Maybe we can get them some help from MLB players' agents.

--
Ed Huntress

Ed, I think you have come up with a new profession, a corruption and
take manager for politicans. The cover name for the office is
political expiditer. Politicians themselves seem to blow it when it
comes to being on the take.


John

I still think that hiring them from the ranks of MLB players' agents is
the way to go. If they can get $82.5 million for A.J. Burnett, they can
revolutionize New Jersey's political corruption.

--
Ed Huntress


I wouldn't bet my last dollar on Illinois or Lousiana being the "most
corrupt" states.



I dunno. I'm still cheering for NJ. But the FBI must have some basis for
making the judgment. We'll have to ask them.

--
Ed Huntress


Pennsylvania is in the running. Luzurne county is near the top as to
corrupt countys. They got caught using county credit cards for personal
use and only had to pay back the money they charged. This is the least of
all their transgressions.


John


Is my old high-school gym teacher, Lou Biacchi, still mayor of Berwick? I
don't know if he's corrupt, but if he lived in NJ, he'd have been a made man
50 years ago. He looked, acted, and sounded like one of the lower-level
soldiers in "The Sopranos."

Such a nice, remote, semi-rural area it is, too. g

--
Ed Huntress



Boater[_3_] December 21st 08 09:04 PM

OT Illinois or Louisiana?
 
Salmonbait wrote:
On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 15:02:17 -0500, Boater wrote:

Ed Huntress wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...
Ed Huntress wrote:
"john" wrote in message
...
Ed Huntress wrote:

"atlas bugged" wrote in message
...

"Ed" wrote in message
.. .

, 18 Dec 2008 07:07:56 -0500, BAR wrote:

Ed Huntress wrote:

"spaco" wrote in message
.. .

Oh, I thought he meant the State Government.
I don't know about La., but my home state is Il. and it was
pretty
crooked when the first Daly ran it from Chicago, and for a long
time
before that. I wonder if "getting caught" is all that separates
one state
from another that way?
I always hate OT but since I grew up in IL and went to undergrad in
LA (Tulane) I couldn't resist

IL (Actually Chicago) has ALWAYS been more corrupt than LA... since
the days of Cappone and then the first mayor Daly. They were
always just much smarter about not getting caught until the more
recent years. BTW.. the city (Chicago) always runs BETTER and more
efficiently with a corrupt mayor.

Also interesting fact (I use the word fact lightly) According to
the FBI only 48% of the murderers in the US ever serve time.... in
recent history 50% of the IL Gov's will serve time.. so... you are
more likely to go to prison if you are elected as Gov of IL than if
you committ MURDER!!!! :-)

I am glad I now live in South Florida... a beautiful little Banana
republic where we expect our politicians to be on the take.... Look
out NJ... we are coming up fast in the outer lane!!! you could be #4.
nail on head

True! I am so mortified that my proud home state of NJ is getting
eclipsed by places like Illinois.

We need a PR firm for our corruption. We need better and more
newsworthy corruption.

But how do you compete when your closest neighbor elects a governor
who made his name tracking down prostitution rings, then gets caught
in bed with a skanky $1000/hour hooker?
We have our work cut out for us, all right. The trouble is that our
corrupt politicians don't think big enough. We've become small-timers
in the bigger scheme of things. Our guys think that a new cabin
cruiser, season Jets tickets, and a couple of bimbos serving drinks in
the luxury suites at Yankee Stadium is living in corrupt luxury.

What we need is politicians who know what they can command in the
marketplace. Maybe we can get them some help from MLB players' agents.

--
Ed Huntress
Ed, I think you have come up with a new profession, a corruption and
take manager for politicans. The cover name for the office is political
expiditer. Politicians themselves seem to blow it when it comes to
being on the take.


John
I still think that hiring them from the ranks of MLB players' agents is
the way to go. If they can get $82.5 million for A.J. Burnett, they can
revolutionize New Jersey's political corruption.

--
Ed Huntress
I wouldn't bet my last dollar on Illinois or Lousiana being the "most
corrupt" states.
I dunno. I'm still cheering for NJ. But the FBI must have some basis for
making the judgment. We'll have to ask them.

--
Ed Huntress



I see no reason to trust any agency connected to the Bush Administration
Justice Department. Which is not to say I think Blago should remain in
office.


Do you see any good reason to cross post?
--

Salmonbait


I'm crosspost neutral. Once in a while, though, it does bring in a new
poster more interesting than, say, the pack of jackals.

Boater[_3_] December 21st 08 09:25 PM

OT Illinois or Louisiana?
 
Salmonbait wrote:
On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 14:39:59 -0500, Boater wrote:

Ed Huntress wrote:
"john" wrote in message
...
Ed Huntress wrote:

"atlas bugged" wrote in message
...

"Ed" wrote in message
.. .

, 18 Dec 2008 07:07:56 -0500, BAR wrote:

Ed Huntress wrote:

"spaco" wrote in message
.. .

Oh, I thought he meant the State Government.
I don't know about La., but my home state is Il. and it was
pretty
crooked when the first Daly ran it from Chicago, and for a long time
before that. I wonder if "getting caught" is all that separates one
state
from another that way?
I always hate OT but since I grew up in IL and went to undergrad in LA
(Tulane) I couldn't resist

IL (Actually Chicago) has ALWAYS been more corrupt than LA... since the
days of Cappone and then the first mayor Daly. They were always just
much smarter about not getting caught until the more recent years. BTW..
the city (Chicago) always runs BETTER and more efficiently with a
corrupt mayor.

Also interesting fact (I use the word fact lightly) According to the
FBI only 48% of the murderers in the US ever serve time.... in recent
history 50% of the IL Gov's will serve time.. so... you are more likely
to go to prison if you are elected as Gov of IL than if you committ
MURDER!!!! :-)

I am glad I now live in South Florida... a beautiful little Banana
republic where we expect our politicians to be on the take.... Look out
NJ... we are coming up fast in the outer lane!!! you could be #4.
nail on head

True! I am so mortified that my proud home state of NJ is getting
eclipsed by places like Illinois.

We need a PR firm for our corruption. We need better and more newsworthy
corruption.

But how do you compete when your closest neighbor elects a governor who
made his name tracking down prostitution rings, then gets caught in bed
with a skanky $1000/hour hooker?
We have our work cut out for us, all right. The trouble is that our
corrupt politicians don't think big enough. We've become small-timers in
the bigger scheme of things. Our guys think that a new cabin cruiser,
season Jets tickets, and a couple of bimbos serving drinks in the luxury
suites at Yankee Stadium is living in corrupt luxury.

What we need is politicians who know what they can command in the
marketplace. Maybe we can get them some help from MLB players' agents.

--
Ed Huntress
Ed, I think you have come up with a new profession, a corruption and take
manager for politicans. The cover name for the office is political
expiditer. Politicians themselves seem to blow it when it comes to being
on the take.


John
I still think that hiring them from the ranks of MLB players' agents is the
way to go. If they can get $82.5 million for A.J. Burnett, they can
revolutionize New Jersey's political corruption.

--
Ed Huntress



I wouldn't bet my last dollar on Illinois or Lousiana being the "most
corrupt" states.


Why the crossposting, Harry. You get horribly upset when people insult you,
but you persist in this type behavior. You don't have to go to other groups
for support.
--

Salmonbait



Y-a-w-n.

Jim December 21st 08 10:03 PM

OT Illinois or Louisiana?
 
Salmonbait wrote:
On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 15:02:17 -0500, Boater wrote:

Ed Huntress wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...
Ed Huntress wrote:
"john" wrote in message
...
Ed Huntress wrote:

"atlas bugged" wrote in message
...

"Ed" wrote in message
.. .

, 18 Dec 2008 07:07:56 -0500, BAR wrote:

Ed Huntress wrote:

"spaco" wrote in message
.. .

Oh, I thought he meant the State Government.
I don't know about La., but my home state is Il. and it was
pretty
crooked when the first Daly ran it from Chicago, and for a long
time
before that. I wonder if "getting caught" is all that separates
one state
from another that way?
I always hate OT but since I grew up in IL and went to undergrad in
LA (Tulane) I couldn't resist

IL (Actually Chicago) has ALWAYS been more corrupt than LA... since
the days of Cappone and then the first mayor Daly. They were
always just much smarter about not getting caught until the more
recent years. BTW.. the city (Chicago) always runs BETTER and more
efficiently with a corrupt mayor.

Also interesting fact (I use the word fact lightly) According to
the FBI only 48% of the murderers in the US ever serve time.... in
recent history 50% of the IL Gov's will serve time.. so... you are
more likely to go to prison if you are elected as Gov of IL than if
you committ MURDER!!!! :-)

I am glad I now live in South Florida... a beautiful little Banana
republic where we expect our politicians to be on the take.... Look
out NJ... we are coming up fast in the outer lane!!! you could be #4.
nail on head

True! I am so mortified that my proud home state of NJ is getting
eclipsed by places like Illinois.

We need a PR firm for our corruption. We need better and more
newsworthy corruption.

But how do you compete when your closest neighbor elects a governor
who made his name tracking down prostitution rings, then gets caught
in bed with a skanky $1000/hour hooker?
We have our work cut out for us, all right. The trouble is that our
corrupt politicians don't think big enough. We've become small-timers
in the bigger scheme of things. Our guys think that a new cabin
cruiser, season Jets tickets, and a couple of bimbos serving drinks in
the luxury suites at Yankee Stadium is living in corrupt luxury.

What we need is politicians who know what they can command in the
marketplace. Maybe we can get them some help from MLB players' agents.

--
Ed Huntress
Ed, I think you have come up with a new profession, a corruption and
take manager for politicans. The cover name for the office is political
expiditer. Politicians themselves seem to blow it when it comes to
being on the take.


John
I still think that hiring them from the ranks of MLB players' agents is
the way to go. If they can get $82.5 million for A.J. Burnett, they can
revolutionize New Jersey's political corruption.

--
Ed Huntress
I wouldn't bet my last dollar on Illinois or Lousiana being the "most
corrupt" states.
I dunno. I'm still cheering for NJ. But the FBI must have some basis for
making the judgment. We'll have to ask them.

--
Ed Huntress



I see no reason to trust any agency connected to the Bush Administration
Justice Department. Which is not to say I think Blago should remain in
office.


Do you see any good reason to cross post?
--

Salmonbait


By crossposting, Krause is punishing the God loving folks in rec.boats
for not worshiping Krause.

D Murphy December 21st 08 10:43 PM

OT Illinois or Louisiana?
 
Boater wrote in
:

Ed Huntress wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...
Ed Huntress wrote:
"john" wrote in message
...
Ed Huntress wrote:

"atlas bugged" wrote in message
...

"Ed" wrote in message
.. .

, 18 Dec 2008 07:07:56 -0500, BAR wrote:

Ed Huntress wrote:

"spaco" wrote in message
.. .

Oh, I thought he meant the State Government.
I don't know about La., but my home state is Il. and it
was
pretty
crooked when the first Daly ran it from Chicago, and for a
long time
before that. I wonder if "getting caught" is all that
separates one state
from another that way?
I always hate OT but since I grew up in IL and went to
undergrad in LA (Tulane) I couldn't resist

IL (Actually Chicago) has ALWAYS been more corrupt than LA...
since the days of Cappone and then the first mayor Daly.
They were always just much smarter about not getting caught
until the more recent years. BTW.. the city (Chicago) always
runs BETTER and more efficiently with a corrupt mayor.

Also interesting fact (I use the word fact lightly) According
to the FBI only 48% of the murderers in the US ever serve
time.... in recent history 50% of the IL Gov's will serve
time.. so... you are more likely to go to prison if you are
elected as Gov of IL than if you committ MURDER!!!! :-)

I am glad I now live in South Florida... a beautiful little
Banana republic where we expect our politicians to be on the
take.... Look out NJ... we are coming up fast in the outer
lane!!! you could be #4.
nail on head

True! I am so mortified that my proud home state of NJ is
getting eclipsed by places like Illinois.

We need a PR firm for our corruption. We need better and more
newsworthy corruption.

But how do you compete when your closest neighbor elects a
governor who made his name tracking down prostitution rings,
then gets caught in bed with a skanky $1000/hour hooker?
We have our work cut out for us, all right. The trouble is that
our corrupt politicians don't think big enough. We've become
small-timers in the bigger scheme of things. Our guys think that
a new cabin cruiser, season Jets tickets, and a couple of bimbos
serving drinks in the luxury suites at Yankee Stadium is living
in corrupt luxury.

What we need is politicians who know what they can command in the
marketplace. Maybe we can get them some help from MLB players'
agents.

--
Ed Huntress
Ed, I think you have come up with a new profession, a corruption
and take manager for politicans. The cover name for the office is
political expiditer. Politicians themselves seem to blow it when
it comes to being on the take.


John
I still think that hiring them from the ranks of MLB players'
agents is the way to go. If they can get $82.5 million for A.J.
Burnett, they can revolutionize New Jersey's political corruption.

--
Ed Huntress

I wouldn't bet my last dollar on Illinois or Lousiana being the
"most corrupt" states.


I dunno. I'm still cheering for NJ. But the FBI must have some basis
for making the judgment. We'll have to ask them.

--
Ed Huntress




I see no reason to trust any agency connected to the Bush
Administration Justice Department. Which is not to say I think Blago
should remain in office.


Fitzgerald has thrown a number of Republicans in jail. Including the last
governer of Illinois.

--

Dan



john December 21st 08 11:01 PM

OT Illinois or Louisiana?
 


Ed Huntress wrote:
"john" wrote in message
...


Ed Huntress wrote:


"Boater" wrote in message
...


Ed Huntress wrote:


"john" wrote in message
news:NZadnevYEdHfEtPUnZ2dnUVZ_ovinZ2d@giganew s.com...


Ed Huntress wrote:



"atlas bugged" wrote in message
...



"Ed" wrote in message
th.net...



, 18 Dec 2008 07:07:56 -0500, BAR wrote:



Ed Huntress wrote:



"spaco" wrote in message
news:4ZOdnbfJIsqxp9TUnZ2dnUVZ_vednZ2d@ bright.net...



Oh, I thought he meant the State Government.
I don't know about La., but my home state is Il. and it was
pretty
crooked when the first Daly ran it from Chicago, and for a long
time
before that. I wonder if "getting caught" is all that separates
one state

from another that way?

I always hate OT but since I grew up in IL and went to undergrad in
LA (Tulane) I couldn't resist

IL (Actually Chicago) has ALWAYS been more corrupt than LA... since
the days of Cappone and then the first mayor Daly. They were
always just much smarter about not getting caught until the more
recent years. BTW.. the city (Chicago) always runs BETTER and more
efficiently with a corrupt mayor.

Also interesting fact (I use the word fact lightly) According to
the FBI only 48% of the murderers in the US ever serve time.... in
recent history 50% of the IL Gov's will serve time.. so... you are
more likely to go to prison if you are elected as Gov of IL than if
you committ MURDER!!!! :-)

I am glad I now live in South Florida... a beautiful little Banana
republic where we expect our politicians to be on the take.... Look
out NJ... we are coming up fast in the outer lane!!! you could be
#4.

nail on head

True! I am so mortified that my proud home state of NJ is getting
eclipsed by places like Illinois.

We need a PR firm for our corruption. We need better and more
newsworthy corruption.

But how do you compete when your closest neighbor elects a governor
who made his name tracking down prostitution rings, then gets caught
in bed with a skanky $1000/hour hooker?

We have our work cut out for us, all right. The trouble is that our
corrupt politicians don't think big enough. We've become small-timers
in the bigger scheme of things. Our guys think that a new cabin
cruiser, season Jets tickets, and a couple of bimbos serving drinks in
the luxury suites at Yankee Stadium is living in corrupt luxury.

What we need is politicians who know what they can command in the
marketplace. Maybe we can get them some help from MLB players' agents.

--
Ed Huntress

Ed, I think you have come up with a new profession, a corruption and
take manager for politicans. The cover name for the office is
political expiditer. Politicians themselves seem to blow it when it
comes to being on the take.


John

I still think that hiring them from the ranks of MLB players' agents is
the way to go. If they can get $82.5 million for A.J. Burnett, they can
revolutionize New Jersey's political corruption.

--
Ed Huntress


I wouldn't bet my last dollar on Illinois or Lousiana being the "most
corrupt" states.


I dunno. I'm still cheering for NJ. But the FBI must have some basis for
making the judgment. We'll have to ask them.

--
Ed Huntress


Pennsylvania is in the running. Luzurne county is near the top as to
corrupt countys. They got caught using county credit cards for personal
use and only had to pay back the money they charged. This is the least of
all their transgressions.


John



Is my old high-school gym teacher, Lou Biacchi, still mayor of Berwick? I
don't know if he's corrupt, but if he lived in NJ, he'd have been a made man
50 years ago. He looked, acted, and sounded like one of the lower-level
soldiers in "The Sopranos."

Such a nice, remote, semi-rural area it is, too. g

--
Ed Huntress

I don't know if he is still around but there sure are a lot of others.
Louis DeNaples is the guy in the news this last year.
He got the award for the gambling license for the Pocono Casino. There
was a big stink that he was connected so they ordered him to have
nothing to do with the Casino. Now that the casino is not making money
they want him to do a bail out.

I still remember the time I had to reposess the two way radios from the
Hudson County police dept. because someone didn't get greased. I was
young and nieve at the time and wondered why they sent me. :)


John


Gunner Asch December 22nd 08 01:54 AM

Illinois or Louisiana?
 
On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 08:58:24 -0500, Boater
wrote:

BAR wrote:
Gunner Asch wrote:
On Thu, 18 Dec 2008 07:07:56 -0500, BAR wrote:

Ed Huntress wrote:
"spaco" wrote in message
.. .
Oh, I thought he meant the State Government.
I don't know about La., but my home state is Il. and it was
pretty crooked when the first Daly ran it from Chicago, and for a
long time before that. I wonder if "getting caught" is all that
separates one state from another that way?

Pete Stanaitis
We're ****ed here in NJ because we always prided ourselves in having
the most corrupt government in the land. Now the FBI tells us we're
only third.

Damn.
Has the City of Newark ever had a Mayor complete his term in office,
outside of the home for wayward government employees in Rahway?


Whats Marion Barry doing these days?


Mayor "Crackhead" Barry or Mayor "The bitch set me up" Barry? He is
serving on the city council in Washington DC
(http://www.dccouncil.us/BARRY/default.htm). He is the cat with 9 lives.



Barry as a criminal is a piker in comparison to Dick Cheney and his
gaggle of goons.



Cheney and Co have been indicted on what charges?

Your twisted world view makes you look buffoonish.

Hummm..you ARE a buffoon, mea culpa

Gunner


Gunner Asch December 22nd 08 02:08 AM

OT Illinois or Louisiana?
 
On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 11:46:48 -0500, "atlas bugged"
wrote:

"Ed" wrote in message
. ..
, 18 Dec 2008 07:07:56 -0500, BAR wrote:

Ed Huntress wrote:
"spaco" wrote in message
.. .
Oh, I thought he meant the State Government.
I don't know about La., but my home state is Il. and it was pretty
crooked when the first Daly ran it from Chicago, and for a long time
before that. I wonder if "getting caught" is all that separates one
state
from another that way?





I always hate OT but since I grew up in IL and went to undergrad in LA
(Tulane) I couldn't resist

IL (Actually Chicago) has ALWAYS been more corrupt than LA... since the
days of Cappone and then the first mayor Daly. They were always just
much smarter about not getting caught until the more recent years.
BTW.. the city (Chicago) always runs BETTER and more efficiently with a
corrupt mayor.

Also interesting fact (I use the word fact lightly) According to the FBI
only 48% of the murderers in the US ever serve time.... in recent history
50% of the IL Gov's will serve time.. so... you are more likely to go to
prison if you are elected as Gov of IL than if you committ MURDER!!!!
:-)

I am glad I now live in South Florida... a beautiful little Banana
republic where we expect our politicians to be on the take.... Look out
NJ... we are coming up fast in the outer lane!!! you could be #4.


nail on head

True! I am so mortified that my proud home state of NJ is getting eclipsed
by places like Illinois.

We need a PR firm for our corruption. We need better and more newsworthy
corruption.

But how do you compete when your closest neighbor elects a governor who made
his name tracking down prostitution rings, then gets caught in bed with a
skanky $1000/hour hooker?



$1000 an hour hookers are NEVER skanky.

Gunner


Gunner Asch December 22nd 08 02:10 AM

OT Illinois or Louisiana?
 
On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 15:02:17 -0500, Boater
wrote:

Ed Huntress wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...
Ed Huntress wrote:
"john" wrote in message
...
Ed Huntress wrote:

"atlas bugged" wrote in message
...

"Ed" wrote in message
.. .

, 18 Dec 2008 07:07:56 -0500, BAR wrote:

Ed Huntress wrote:

"spaco" wrote in message
.. .

Oh, I thought he meant the State Government.
I don't know about La., but my home state is Il. and it was
pretty
crooked when the first Daly ran it from Chicago, and for a long
time
before that. I wonder if "getting caught" is all that separates
one state
from another that way?
I always hate OT but since I grew up in IL and went to undergrad in
LA (Tulane) I couldn't resist

IL (Actually Chicago) has ALWAYS been more corrupt than LA... since
the days of Cappone and then the first mayor Daly. They were
always just much smarter about not getting caught until the more
recent years. BTW.. the city (Chicago) always runs BETTER and more
efficiently with a corrupt mayor.

Also interesting fact (I use the word fact lightly) According to
the FBI only 48% of the murderers in the US ever serve time.... in
recent history 50% of the IL Gov's will serve time.. so... you are
more likely to go to prison if you are elected as Gov of IL than if
you committ MURDER!!!! :-)

I am glad I now live in South Florida... a beautiful little Banana
republic where we expect our politicians to be on the take.... Look
out NJ... we are coming up fast in the outer lane!!! you could be #4.
nail on head

True! I am so mortified that my proud home state of NJ is getting
eclipsed by places like Illinois.

We need a PR firm for our corruption. We need better and more
newsworthy corruption.

But how do you compete when your closest neighbor elects a governor
who made his name tracking down prostitution rings, then gets caught
in bed with a skanky $1000/hour hooker?
We have our work cut out for us, all right. The trouble is that our
corrupt politicians don't think big enough. We've become small-timers
in the bigger scheme of things. Our guys think that a new cabin
cruiser, season Jets tickets, and a couple of bimbos serving drinks in
the luxury suites at Yankee Stadium is living in corrupt luxury.

What we need is politicians who know what they can command in the
marketplace. Maybe we can get them some help from MLB players' agents.

--
Ed Huntress
Ed, I think you have come up with a new profession, a corruption and
take manager for politicans. The cover name for the office is political
expiditer. Politicians themselves seem to blow it when it comes to
being on the take.


John
I still think that hiring them from the ranks of MLB players' agents is
the way to go. If they can get $82.5 million for A.J. Burnett, they can
revolutionize New Jersey's political corruption.

--
Ed Huntress

I wouldn't bet my last dollar on Illinois or Lousiana being the "most
corrupt" states.


I dunno. I'm still cheering for NJ. But the FBI must have some basis for
making the judgment. We'll have to ask them.

--
Ed Huntress




I see no reason to trust any agency connected to the Bush Administration
Justice Department. Which is not to say I think Blago should remain in
office.



Of course not. Simply because most of the corrupt politicians are
Democrats...you give them a pass.

After all...Democrats are expected to be corrupt.

Gunner


Salmonbait December 22nd 08 02:29 AM

OT Illinois or Louisiana?
 
On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 16:04:37 -0500, Boater wrote:

Salmonbait wrote:
On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 15:02:17 -0500, Boater wrote:

Ed Huntress wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...
Ed Huntress wrote:
"john" wrote in message
...
Ed Huntress wrote:

"atlas bugged" wrote in message
...

"Ed" wrote in message
.. .

, 18 Dec 2008 07:07:56 -0500, BAR wrote:

Ed Huntress wrote:

"spaco" wrote in message
.. .

Oh, I thought he meant the State Government.
I don't know about La., but my home state is Il. and it was
pretty
crooked when the first Daly ran it from Chicago, and for a long
time
before that. I wonder if "getting caught" is all that separates
one state
from another that way?
I always hate OT but since I grew up in IL and went to undergrad in
LA (Tulane) I couldn't resist

IL (Actually Chicago) has ALWAYS been more corrupt than LA... since
the days of Cappone and then the first mayor Daly. They were
always just much smarter about not getting caught until the more
recent years. BTW.. the city (Chicago) always runs BETTER and more
efficiently with a corrupt mayor.

Also interesting fact (I use the word fact lightly) According to
the FBI only 48% of the murderers in the US ever serve time.... in
recent history 50% of the IL Gov's will serve time.. so... you are
more likely to go to prison if you are elected as Gov of IL than if
you committ MURDER!!!! :-)

I am glad I now live in South Florida... a beautiful little Banana
republic where we expect our politicians to be on the take.... Look
out NJ... we are coming up fast in the outer lane!!! you could be #4.
nail on head

True! I am so mortified that my proud home state of NJ is getting
eclipsed by places like Illinois.

We need a PR firm for our corruption. We need better and more
newsworthy corruption.

But how do you compete when your closest neighbor elects a governor
who made his name tracking down prostitution rings, then gets caught
in bed with a skanky $1000/hour hooker?
We have our work cut out for us, all right. The trouble is that our
corrupt politicians don't think big enough. We've become small-timers
in the bigger scheme of things. Our guys think that a new cabin
cruiser, season Jets tickets, and a couple of bimbos serving drinks in
the luxury suites at Yankee Stadium is living in corrupt luxury.

What we need is politicians who know what they can command in the
marketplace. Maybe we can get them some help from MLB players' agents.

--
Ed Huntress
Ed, I think you have come up with a new profession, a corruption and
take manager for politicans. The cover name for the office is political
expiditer. Politicians themselves seem to blow it when it comes to
being on the take.


John
I still think that hiring them from the ranks of MLB players' agents is
the way to go. If they can get $82.5 million for A.J. Burnett, they can
revolutionize New Jersey's political corruption.

--
Ed Huntress
I wouldn't bet my last dollar on Illinois or Lousiana being the "most
corrupt" states.
I dunno. I'm still cheering for NJ. But the FBI must have some basis for
making the judgment. We'll have to ask them.

--
Ed Huntress



I see no reason to trust any agency connected to the Bush Administration
Justice Department. Which is not to say I think Blago should remain in
office.


Do you see any good reason to cross post?
--

Salmonbait


I'm crosspost neutral. Once in a while, though, it does bring in a new
poster more interesting than, say, the pack of jackals.


How can you say you're 'crosspost neutral' if you do it? Or was that
supposed to be a joke?

It seems as though you try your hardest to insure you receive more than
your share of insults, derogatory comments, and anger from others. That
would tend to make your complaints somewhat meaningless, no?
--

Salmonbait

atlas bugged December 22nd 08 02:45 AM

OT Illinois or Louisiana?
 

"Gunner Asch" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 11:46:48 -0500, "atlas bugged"
wrote:

"Ed" wrote in message
...
, 18 Dec 2008 07:07:56 -0500, BAR wrote:

Ed Huntress wrote:
"spaco" wrote in message
.. .
Oh, I thought he meant the State Government.
I don't know about La., but my home state is Il. and it was
pretty
crooked when the first Daly ran it from Chicago, and for a long time
before that. I wonder if "getting caught" is all that separates one
state
from another that way?




I always hate OT but since I grew up in IL and went to undergrad in LA
(Tulane) I couldn't resist

IL (Actually Chicago) has ALWAYS been more corrupt than LA... since the
days of Cappone and then the first mayor Daly. They were always just
much smarter about not getting caught until the more recent years.
BTW.. the city (Chicago) always runs BETTER and more efficiently with a
corrupt mayor.

Also interesting fact (I use the word fact lightly) According to the
FBI
only 48% of the murderers in the US ever serve time.... in recent
history
50% of the IL Gov's will serve time.. so... you are more likely to go to
prison if you are elected as Gov of IL than if you committ MURDER!!!!
:-)

I am glad I now live in South Florida... a beautiful little Banana
republic where we expect our politicians to be on the take.... Look out
NJ... we are coming up fast in the outer lane!!! you could be #4.


nail on head

True! I am so mortified that my proud home state of NJ is getting
eclipsed
by places like Illinois.

We need a PR firm for our corruption. We need better and more newsworthy
corruption.

But how do you compete when your closest neighbor elects a governor who
made
his name tracking down prostitution rings, then gets caught in bed with a
skanky $1000/hour hooker?



$1000 an hour hookers are NEVER skanky.


*One* was! That's the point - Spitzer's hooker was outed and we saw her.
Yechhhh! He wasn't just a ****ty hypocrite, he also overpaid and had lousy
taste in women.


Jim December 22nd 08 02:46 AM

OT Illinois or Louisiana?
 
Salmonbait wrote:
On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 16:04:37 -0500, Boater wrote:

Salmonbait wrote:
On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 15:02:17 -0500, Boater wrote:

Ed Huntress wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...
Ed Huntress wrote:
"john" wrote in message
...
Ed Huntress wrote:

"atlas bugged" wrote in message
...

"Ed" wrote in message
.. .

, 18 Dec 2008 07:07:56 -0500, BAR wrote:

Ed Huntress wrote:

"spaco" wrote in message
.. .

Oh, I thought he meant the State Government.
I don't know about La., but my home state is Il. and it was
pretty
crooked when the first Daly ran it from Chicago, and for a long
time
before that. I wonder if "getting caught" is all that separates
one state
from another that way?
I always hate OT but since I grew up in IL and went to undergrad in
LA (Tulane) I couldn't resist

IL (Actually Chicago) has ALWAYS been more corrupt than LA... since
the days of Cappone and then the first mayor Daly. They were
always just much smarter about not getting caught until the more
recent years. BTW.. the city (Chicago) always runs BETTER and more
efficiently with a corrupt mayor.

Also interesting fact (I use the word fact lightly) According to
the FBI only 48% of the murderers in the US ever serve time.... in
recent history 50% of the IL Gov's will serve time.. so... you are
more likely to go to prison if you are elected as Gov of IL than if
you committ MURDER!!!! :-)

I am glad I now live in South Florida... a beautiful little Banana
republic where we expect our politicians to be on the take.... Look
out NJ... we are coming up fast in the outer lane!!! you could be #4.
nail on head

True! I am so mortified that my proud home state of NJ is getting
eclipsed by places like Illinois.

We need a PR firm for our corruption. We need better and more
newsworthy corruption.

But how do you compete when your closest neighbor elects a governor
who made his name tracking down prostitution rings, then gets caught
in bed with a skanky $1000/hour hooker?
We have our work cut out for us, all right. The trouble is that our
corrupt politicians don't think big enough. We've become small-timers
in the bigger scheme of things. Our guys think that a new cabin
cruiser, season Jets tickets, and a couple of bimbos serving drinks in
the luxury suites at Yankee Stadium is living in corrupt luxury.

What we need is politicians who know what they can command in the
marketplace. Maybe we can get them some help from MLB players' agents.

--
Ed Huntress
Ed, I think you have come up with a new profession, a corruption and
take manager for politicans. The cover name for the office is political
expiditer. Politicians themselves seem to blow it when it comes to
being on the take.


John
I still think that hiring them from the ranks of MLB players' agents is
the way to go. If they can get $82.5 million for A.J. Burnett, they can
revolutionize New Jersey's political corruption.

--
Ed Huntress
I wouldn't bet my last dollar on Illinois or Lousiana being the "most
corrupt" states.
I dunno. I'm still cheering for NJ. But the FBI must have some basis for
making the judgment. We'll have to ask them.

--
Ed Huntress


I see no reason to trust any agency connected to the Bush Administration
Justice Department. Which is not to say I think Blago should remain in
office.
Do you see any good reason to cross post?
--

Salmonbait

I'm crosspost neutral. Once in a while, though, it does bring in a new
poster more interesting than, say, the pack of jackals.


How can you say you're 'crosspost neutral' if you do it? Or was that
supposed to be a joke?

It seems as though you try your hardest to insure you receive more than
your share of insults, derogatory comments, and anger from others. That
would tend to make your complaints somewhat meaningless, no?
--

Salmonbait


Krause has 50 people here calling him an asshole. I would say that's
pretty conclusive, wouldn't you, John?

Boater[_3_] December 22nd 08 02:51 AM

OT Illinois or Louisiana?
 
Salmonbait wrote:
On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 16:04:37 -0500, Boater wrote:


Do you see any good reason to cross post?
--

Salmonbait

I'm crosspost neutral. Once in a while, though, it does bring in a new
poster more interesting than, say, the pack of jackals.


How can you say you're 'crosspost neutral' if you do it? Or was that
supposed to be a joke?

It seems as though you try your hardest to insure you receive more than
your share of insults, derogatory comments, and anger from others. That
would tend to make your complaints somewhat meaningless, no?
--

Salmonbait



What it means is that I don't care if crossposters show up or not. Some
of them have far more interesting things to say here than, say, the
jackals. It's not as if this is a newsgroup about boats.

[email protected] December 22nd 08 04:42 AM

Illinois or Louisiana?
 
On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 17:54:23 -0800, Gunner Asch wrote:

Cheney and Co have been indicted on what charges?


http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/11/...ales.indicted/



Your twisted world view makes you look buffoonish.

Hummm..you ARE a buffoon, mea culpa

Gunner



Gunner Asch December 22nd 08 05:04 AM

Illinois or Louisiana?
 
On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 22:42:55 -0600, wrote:

On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 17:54:23 -0800, Gunner Asch wrote:

Cheney and Co have been indicted on what charges?


http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/11/...ales.indicted/

Page not found.





Your twisted world view makes you look buffoonish.

Hummm..you ARE a buffoon, mea culpa

Gunner

BROWNSVILLE — A district attorney with a reputation for wackiness and
little time left in office has stunned observers by securing indictments
against Vice President Dick Cheney, former Attorney General Alberto
Gonzales and Brownsville Sen. Eddie Lucio Jr., among others.

Is this reality TV or something that will prove real?

At least for now, the White House isn't saying. But Lucio's lawyer
described outgoing Willacy County District Attorney Juan Angel Guerra as
a circus act.

Guerra, a 53-year-old Rio Grande Valley prosecutor who drew national
attention for suing counterparts in the county justice system and
staging a protest with barnyard animals, long has alleged high-ranking
corruption in the deals that brought the impoverished county a $60
million immigration detention center.

On Monday, he got a grand jury to sign off on a slew of indictments
including an acceptance of honorarium charge against Lucio and an
engaging in organized criminal activity charge against Cheney and
Gonzales.

“I didn't intend to go after the vice president. That was not my
intention,” said Guerra, who dubbed the investigation Operation Goliath.
“We just followed the money, followed the corruption. It just happened
that it just took us all the way to Washington.”

Lucio's lawyer, Michael Cowan, fired back Tuesday with a news release
trumpeting Guerra's continued “one-man circus.”

“Having been voted out of office, Willacy County DA commits one last act
of political revenge,” Cowan said. “With only a few weeks left in his
term, Mr. Guerra has again chosen to misuse his position in an attempt
to seek revenge on those who he sees as political enemies.”

Cheney is accused of contributing to the neglect of federal immigration
detainees by contracting for-profit prisons.

“By working through corporations as prisons for profit, Defendant
Richard Cheney has committed at least misdemeanor assaults of our
inmates and/or detainees,” the indictment reads, adding that a “money
trail” can be traced to Cheney's substantial investments in the Vanguard
Group, which invests in privately run prisons.

Megan Mitchell, spokeswoman for Cheney, said: “We have not received an
indictment. We haven't received a call from the district attorney's
office. ... We haven't heard anything from the district attorney.”

Guerra said he kept Operation Goliath secret for four months over
concern that pressure would be brought to bear to stop it.

He said “everything was being worked out of my house” and only one
trusted member of his staff knew about it. He said he enlisted the help
of people all over the country and talked to witnesses all over the
country. Everyone who helped was assigned a biblical name. Guerra was
known as David.

He said the investigation continues and that when he leaves office,
he'll probably ask for a special prosecutor to be named.

Cowan said he was working on a motion to quash the indictment against
Lucio, which is based on allegations Lucio misused his contacts and
influence as a senator in his consulting work. Guerra has said another
company could have built the facility for half the cost.

“There's no crime here,” Cowan said. “The senator's done nothing wrong.
Being a senator is not a fulltime job — you're allowed to have outside
employment.”

Also named in at least eight separate indictments:

?GEO Group, Inc., formerly Wackenhut Corrections Corp., and David
Forrest, a warden, for murder and manslaughter of an inmate in 2001.

?District Clerk Gilbert Lozano for official abuse of official capacity
and official oppression.

?Special prosecutor Gustavo Garza for official abuse of official
capacity and official oppression.

?Special prosecutor Mervyn Mosbacker for official abuse of official
capacity and official oppression.

?District Judge Migdalia Lopez for official abuse of official capacity
and official oppression

?District Judge Janet Leal for official abuse of official capacity and
official oppression.

Guerra said he has requested that those indicted be given a summons to
appear.

Guerra himself has faced indictment before and has defended himself in a
colorful fashion while claiming to be the target of political vendettas.

In 2007, after being indicted on public theft charges, he camped in
front of the county jail with goats, roosters and a horse to symbolize
what he called a “circus” against him. Those charges were dismissed, as
more recently were other indictments accusing him of corruption
including tampering with government records and abusing his office.

Guerra later sued the county judge, county sheriff, county clerks, and
others.

Guerra has contended the indictments against him were meant to keep him
from being re-elected. He lost in the March primary election.

Regarding Lucio's comment that the indictments are a circus act, he
said, “This was a grand jury that had been looking into this for the
past four months. That's belittling the grand jury.”


Laugh laugh laugh...the old adage IS true...a nutcase can indict a ham
sandwich. Looks like he forgot the sandwich, but he got everyone
else....even the court clerk.

ROFLMAO!

He must be a Democrat, based on his lunacy.

Gunner


Gunner Asch December 22nd 08 05:04 AM

OT Illinois or Louisiana?
 
On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 21:45:44 -0500, "atlas bugged"
wrote:


"Gunner Asch" wrote in message
.. .
On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 11:46:48 -0500, "atlas bugged"
wrote:

"Ed" wrote in message
t...
, 18 Dec 2008 07:07:56 -0500, BAR wrote:

Ed Huntress wrote:
"spaco" wrote in message
.. .
Oh, I thought he meant the State Government.
I don't know about La., but my home state is Il. and it was
pretty
crooked when the first Daly ran it from Chicago, and for a long time
before that. I wonder if "getting caught" is all that separates one
state
from another that way?




I always hate OT but since I grew up in IL and went to undergrad in LA
(Tulane) I couldn't resist

IL (Actually Chicago) has ALWAYS been more corrupt than LA... since the
days of Cappone and then the first mayor Daly. They were always just
much smarter about not getting caught until the more recent years.
BTW.. the city (Chicago) always runs BETTER and more efficiently with a
corrupt mayor.

Also interesting fact (I use the word fact lightly) According to the
FBI
only 48% of the murderers in the US ever serve time.... in recent
history
50% of the IL Gov's will serve time.. so... you are more likely to go to
prison if you are elected as Gov of IL than if you committ MURDER!!!!
:-)

I am glad I now live in South Florida... a beautiful little Banana
republic where we expect our politicians to be on the take.... Look out
NJ... we are coming up fast in the outer lane!!! you could be #4.

nail on head

True! I am so mortified that my proud home state of NJ is getting
eclipsed
by places like Illinois.

We need a PR firm for our corruption. We need better and more newsworthy
corruption.

But how do you compete when your closest neighbor elects a governor who
made
his name tracking down prostitution rings, then gets caught in bed with a
skanky $1000/hour hooker?



$1000 an hour hookers are NEVER skanky.


*One* was! That's the point - Spitzer's hooker was outed and we saw her.
Yechhhh! He wasn't just a ****ty hypocrite, he also overpaid and had lousy
taste in women.



Catch her at a really bad time? Or she can suck start a Harley...a
croquet ball through a half mile of garden hose....G

She has to have some kink she is good at that earns her that kind of
money.

Gunner


atlas bugged December 22nd 08 06:31 AM

OT Illinois or Louisiana?
 
"Gunner Asch" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 21:45:44 -0500, "atlas bugged"
wrote:
But how do you compete when your closest neighbor elects a governor who
made
his name tracking down prostitution rings, then gets caught in bed with
a
skanky $1000/hour hooker?


$1000 an hour hookers are NEVER skanky.


*One* was! That's the point - Spitzer's hooker was outed and we saw her.
Yechhhh! He wasn't just a ****ty hypocrite, he also overpaid and had
lousy
taste in women.



Catch her at a really bad time? Or she can suck start a Harley...a
croquet ball through a half mile of garden hose....G

She has to have some kink she is good at that earns her that kind of
money.


That's actually correct and perceptive.

The laws of supply and demand don't go away, no matter how much and how many
wish it.

Still, not my cup of tea. Have a look:
http://images.huffingtonpost.com/gen/15422/original.jpg


Gunner Asch December 22nd 08 11:22 AM

OT Illinois or Louisiana?
 
On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 01:31:42 -0500, "atlas bugged"
wrote:

"Gunner Asch" wrote in message
.. .
On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 21:45:44 -0500, "atlas bugged"
wrote:
But how do you compete when your closest neighbor elects a governor who
made
his name tracking down prostitution rings, then gets caught in bed with
a
skanky $1000/hour hooker?


$1000 an hour hookers are NEVER skanky.

*One* was! That's the point - Spitzer's hooker was outed and we saw her.
Yechhhh! He wasn't just a ****ty hypocrite, he also overpaid and had
lousy
taste in women.



Catch her at a really bad time? Or she can suck start a Harley...a
croquet ball through a half mile of garden hose....G

She has to have some kink she is good at that earns her that kind of
money.


That's actually correct and perceptive.

The laws of supply and demand don't go away, no matter how much and how many
wish it.

Still, not my cup of tea. Have a look:
http://images.huffingtonpost.com/gen/15422/original.jpg



You consider THAT a skank?????

tch tch tch....I take it you either like men, or have been poreing over
the airbrushed goddesses in Playboy.

Thats pretty good looking. Even by california standards.

Now I can understand if she isnt your "type" even if you did like girls,
different strokes for different folks as they say.

Gunner


Salmonbait December 22nd 08 12:48 PM

Illinois or Louisiana?
 
On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 22:42:55 -0600, wrote:

On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 17:54:23 -0800, Gunner Asch wrote:

Cheney and Co have been indicted on what charges?


http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/11/...ales.indicted/



Your twisted world view makes you look buffoonish.

Hummm..you ARE a buffoon, mea culpa

Gunner


Wow, Thunder. You sure come up with some relevant cites.

http://tinyurl.com/6db3mk

"indicted on state charges involving federal prisons in a South Texas
county that has been a source of bizarre legal and political battles..."

PS. Why the crossposting? I know you have better manners than that.
--

Salmonbait

Salmonbait December 22nd 08 01:01 PM

OT Illinois or Louisiana?
 
On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 21:46:14 -0500, Jim wrote:

Salmonbait wrote:
On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 16:04:37 -0500, Boater wrote:

Salmonbait wrote:
On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 15:02:17 -0500, Boater wrote:

Ed Huntress wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...
Ed Huntress wrote:
"john" wrote in message
...
Ed Huntress wrote:

"atlas bugged" wrote in message
...

"Ed" wrote in message
.. .

, 18 Dec 2008 07:07:56 -0500, BAR wrote:

Ed Huntress wrote:

"spaco" wrote in message
.. .

Oh, I thought he meant the State Government.
I don't know about La., but my home state is Il. and it was
pretty
crooked when the first Daly ran it from Chicago, and for a long
time
before that. I wonder if "getting caught" is all that separates
one state
from another that way?
I always hate OT but since I grew up in IL and went to undergrad in
LA (Tulane) I couldn't resist

IL (Actually Chicago) has ALWAYS been more corrupt than LA... since
the days of Cappone and then the first mayor Daly. They were
always just much smarter about not getting caught until the more
recent years. BTW.. the city (Chicago) always runs BETTER and more
efficiently with a corrupt mayor.

Also interesting fact (I use the word fact lightly) According to
the FBI only 48% of the murderers in the US ever serve time.... in
recent history 50% of the IL Gov's will serve time.. so... you are
more likely to go to prison if you are elected as Gov of IL than if
you committ MURDER!!!! :-)

I am glad I now live in South Florida... a beautiful little Banana
republic where we expect our politicians to be on the take.... Look
out NJ... we are coming up fast in the outer lane!!! you could be #4.
nail on head

True! I am so mortified that my proud home state of NJ is getting
eclipsed by places like Illinois.

We need a PR firm for our corruption. We need better and more
newsworthy corruption.

But how do you compete when your closest neighbor elects a governor
who made his name tracking down prostitution rings, then gets caught
in bed with a skanky $1000/hour hooker?
We have our work cut out for us, all right. The trouble is that our
corrupt politicians don't think big enough. We've become small-timers
in the bigger scheme of things. Our guys think that a new cabin
cruiser, season Jets tickets, and a couple of bimbos serving drinks in
the luxury suites at Yankee Stadium is living in corrupt luxury.

What we need is politicians who know what they can command in the
marketplace. Maybe we can get them some help from MLB players' agents.

--
Ed Huntress
Ed, I think you have come up with a new profession, a corruption and
take manager for politicans. The cover name for the office is political
expiditer. Politicians themselves seem to blow it when it comes to
being on the take.


John
I still think that hiring them from the ranks of MLB players' agents is
the way to go. If they can get $82.5 million for A.J. Burnett, they can
revolutionize New Jersey's political corruption.

--
Ed Huntress
I wouldn't bet my last dollar on Illinois or Lousiana being the "most
corrupt" states.
I dunno. I'm still cheering for NJ. But the FBI must have some basis for
making the judgment. We'll have to ask them.

--
Ed Huntress


I see no reason to trust any agency connected to the Bush Administration
Justice Department. Which is not to say I think Blago should remain in
office.
Do you see any good reason to cross post?
--

Salmonbait
I'm crosspost neutral. Once in a while, though, it does bring in a new
poster more interesting than, say, the pack of jackals.


How can you say you're 'crosspost neutral' if you do it? Or was that
supposed to be a joke?

It seems as though you try your hardest to insure you receive more than
your share of insults, derogatory comments, and anger from others. That
would tend to make your complaints somewhat meaningless, no?
--

Salmonbait


Krause has 50 people here calling him an asshole. I would say that's
pretty conclusive, wouldn't you, John?


I refuse to be the fifty-first. Let someone else have that honor.

I'm just trying to help Harry out a little. He complains that he's picked
on and therefore can't stop the insults and name-calling. I think he has at
least the willpower I do.
--

Salmonbait

Salmonbait December 22nd 08 01:05 PM

OT Illinois or Louisiana?
 
On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 21:51:06 -0500, Boater wrote:

Salmonbait wrote:
On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 16:04:37 -0500, Boater wrote:


Do you see any good reason to cross post?
--

Salmonbait
I'm crosspost neutral. Once in a while, though, it does bring in a new
poster more interesting than, say, the pack of jackals.


How can you say you're 'crosspost neutral' if you do it? Or was that
supposed to be a joke?

It seems as though you try your hardest to insure you receive more than
your share of insults, derogatory comments, and anger from others. That
would tend to make your complaints somewhat meaningless, no?
--

Salmonbait



What it means is that I don't care if crossposters show up or not. Some
of them have far more interesting things to say here than, say, the
jackals. It's not as if this is a newsgroup about boats.


If you find them more interesting, why do you not go to their groups and
join them. I'm sure you'd be more appreciated than you are here, and your
knowledge of politics would put you at the head of the pack (not to imply
that they are jackals...don't get me wrong).
--

Salmonbait

atlas bugged December 22nd 08 02:17 PM

OT Illinois or Louisiana?
 

"Gunner Asch" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 01:31:42 -0500, "atlas bugged"
wrote:

"Gunner Asch" wrote in message
. ..
On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 21:45:44 -0500, "atlas bugged"
wrote:
But how do you compete when your closest neighbor elects a governor
who
made
his name tracking down prostitution rings, then gets caught in bed
with
a
skanky $1000/hour hooker?


$1000 an hour hookers are NEVER skanky.

*One* was! That's the point - Spitzer's hooker was outed and we saw
her.
Yechhhh! He wasn't just a ****ty hypocrite, he also overpaid and had
lousy
taste in women.


Catch her at a really bad time? Or she can suck start a Harley...a
croquet ball through a half mile of garden hose....G

She has to have some kink she is good at that earns her that kind of
money.


That's actually correct and perceptive.

The laws of supply and demand don't go away, no matter how much and how
many
wish it.

Still, not my cup of tea. Have a look:
http://images.huffingtonpost.com/gen/15422/original.jpg



You consider THAT a skank?????

tch tch tch....I take it you either like men, or have been poreing over
the airbrushed goddesses in Playboy.

Thats pretty good looking. Even by california standards.


$1000/hour good-looking? Really? Ooooooookay!

Now I can understand if she isnt your "type" even if you did like girls,
different strokes for different folks as they say.


Maybe at 10 bucks/hour, but they don't make antibiotics that strong yet, so
no way!


Kali[_2_] December 22nd 08 07:34 PM

OT Illinois or Louisiana?
 
In article ,
says...
On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 15:02:17 -0500, Boater
wrote:

Ed Huntress wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...
Ed Huntress wrote:
"john" wrote in message
...
Ed Huntress wrote:

"atlas bugged" wrote in message
...

"Ed" wrote in message
.. .

, 18 Dec 2008 07:07:56 -0500, BAR wrote:

Ed Huntress wrote:

"spaco" wrote in message
.. .

Oh, I thought he meant the State Government.
I don't know about La., but my home state is Il. and it was
pretty
crooked when the first Daly ran it from Chicago, and for a long
time
before that. I wonder if "getting caught" is all that separates
one state
from another that way?
I always hate OT but since I grew up in IL and went to undergrad in
LA (Tulane) I couldn't resist

IL (Actually Chicago) has ALWAYS been more corrupt than LA... since
the days of Cappone and then the first mayor Daly. They were
always just much smarter about not getting caught until the more
recent years. BTW.. the city (Chicago) always runs BETTER and more
efficiently with a corrupt mayor.

Also interesting fact (I use the word fact lightly) According to
the FBI only 48% of the murderers in the US ever serve time.... in
recent history 50% of the IL Gov's will serve time.. so... you are
more likely to go to prison if you are elected as Gov of IL than if
you committ MURDER!!!! :-)

I am glad I now live in South Florida... a beautiful little Banana
republic where we expect our politicians to be on the take.... Look
out NJ... we are coming up fast in the outer lane!!! you could be #4.
nail on head

True! I am so mortified that my proud home state of NJ is getting
eclipsed by places like Illinois.

We need a PR firm for our corruption. We need better and more
newsworthy corruption.

But how do you compete when your closest neighbor elects a governor
who made his name tracking down prostitution rings, then gets caught
in bed with a skanky $1000/hour hooker?
We have our work cut out for us, all right. The trouble is that our
corrupt politicians don't think big enough. We've become small-timers
in the bigger scheme of things. Our guys think that a new cabin
cruiser, season Jets tickets, and a couple of bimbos serving drinks in
the luxury suites at Yankee Stadium is living in corrupt luxury.

What we need is politicians who know what they can command in the
marketplace. Maybe we can get them some help from MLB players' agents.

--
Ed Huntress
Ed, I think you have come up with a new profession, a corruption and
take manager for politicans. The cover name for the office is political
expiditer. Politicians themselves seem to blow it when it comes to
being on the take.


John
I still think that hiring them from the ranks of MLB players' agents is
the way to go. If they can get $82.5 million for A.J. Burnett, they can
revolutionize New Jersey's political corruption.

--
Ed Huntress

I wouldn't bet my last dollar on Illinois or Lousiana being the "most
corrupt" states.

I dunno. I'm still cheering for NJ. But the FBI must have some basis for
making the judgment. We'll have to ask them.

--
Ed Huntress




I see no reason to trust any agency connected to the Bush Administration
Justice Department. Which is not to say I think Blago should remain in
office.



Of course not. Simply because most of the corrupt politicians are
Democrats...you give them a pass.

After all...Democrats are expected to be corrupt.


This is silly. Power corrupts.

Gunner



--
Kali

Gunner Asch December 23rd 08 12:31 AM

OT Illinois or Louisiana?
 
On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 09:17:46 -0500, "atlas bugged"
wrote:


"Gunner Asch" wrote in message
.. .
On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 01:31:42 -0500, "atlas bugged"
wrote:

"Gunner Asch" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 21:45:44 -0500, "atlas bugged"
wrote:
But how do you compete when your closest neighbor elects a governor
who
made
his name tracking down prostitution rings, then gets caught in bed
with
a
skanky $1000/hour hooker?


$1000 an hour hookers are NEVER skanky.

*One* was! That's the point - Spitzer's hooker was outed and we saw
her.
Yechhhh! He wasn't just a ****ty hypocrite, he also overpaid and had
lousy
taste in women.


Catch her at a really bad time? Or she can suck start a Harley...a
croquet ball through a half mile of garden hose....G

She has to have some kink she is good at that earns her that kind of
money.

That's actually correct and perceptive.

The laws of supply and demand don't go away, no matter how much and how
many
wish it.

Still, not my cup of tea. Have a look:
http://images.huffingtonpost.com/gen/15422/original.jpg



You consider THAT a skank?????

tch tch tch....I take it you either like men, or have been poreing over
the airbrushed goddesses in Playboy.

Thats pretty good looking. Even by california standards.


$1000/hour good-looking? Really? Ooooooookay!


Since you seem to be the Authority on good looks and services, whats her
speciality?

Now I can understand if she isnt your "type" even if you did like girls,
different strokes for different folks as they say.


Maybe at 10 bucks/hour, but they don't make antibiotics that strong yet, so
no way!


Like I said...you been looking at too many of the airbrushed girls in
playboy. Heads up....they have been airbrushed. They arent real

Gunner


Gunner Asch December 23rd 08 12:33 AM

OT Illinois or Louisiana?
 
On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 14:34:55 -0500, Kali wrote:


Of course not. Simply because most of the corrupt politicians are
Democrats...you give them a pass.

After all...Democrats are expected to be corrupt.


This is silly. Power corrupts.

And Democrats in power are absolutely corrupt.



Dick 'Tater December 23rd 08 03:07 AM

OT Illinois or Louisiana?
 
Gunner Asch wrote:
On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 09:17:46 -0500, "atlas bugged"
wrote:


"Gunner Asch" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 01:31:42 -0500, "atlas bugged"
wrote:

"Gunner Asch" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 21:45:44 -0500, "atlas bugged"
wrote:
But how do you compete when your closest neighbor elects a
governor who
made
his name tracking down prostitution rings, then gets caught in
bed with
a
skanky $1000/hour hooker?


$1000 an hour hookers are NEVER skanky.

*One* was! That's the point - Spitzer's hooker was outed and we
saw her.
Yechhhh! He wasn't just a ****ty hypocrite, he also overpaid
and had lousy
taste in women.


Catch her at a really bad time? Or she can suck start a
Harley...a croquet ball through a half mile of garden hose....G

She has to have some kink she is good at that earns her that kind
of money.

That's actually correct and perceptive.

The laws of supply and demand don't go away, no matter how much
and how many
wish it.

Still, not my cup of tea. Have a look:
http://images.huffingtonpost.com/gen/15422/original.jpg


You consider THAT a skank?????

tch tch tch....I take it you either like men, or have been poreing
over the airbrushed goddesses in Playboy.

Thats pretty good looking. Even by california standards.


$1000/hour good-looking? Really? Ooooooookay!


Since you seem to be the Authority on good looks and services, whats
her speciality?


She's a dog strangler, like you.


--

Dick



Dan December 23rd 08 07:34 AM

OT Illinois or Louisiana?
 
Gunner Asch wrote:
On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 14:34:55 -0500, Kali wrote:

Of course not. Simply because most of the corrupt politicians are
Democrats...you give them a pass.

After all...Democrats are expected to be corrupt.

This is silly. Power corrupts.

And Democrats in power are absolutely corrupt.


Some. Seems to be a larger percentage of Republicans are corrupt,
however. And even the Republicans who are not corrupt wish to corrupt
the nation.

Dan


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