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Just heard something interesting...
On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 12:21:23 -0500, wrote:
On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 12:08:47 -0500, BAR wrote: wrote: On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 11:50:41 -0500, wrote: On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 11:35:04 -0500, wrote: On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 11:27:36 -0500, wrote: On Wed, 10 Dec 2008 16:42:56 -0500, wrote: Maybe they'll even get around to dredging the ICW properly. They could start tomorrow. They could start applying for the permits tomorrow but I doubt any muck will move for a couple years ... at last around here. Nope, they could start VERY quickly. All they lack is funding. As the trickle of money comes in, they have been doing what they can. You must not have Department of Environmental Protection there. You can't do anything in the water here without a permit and that process drags on forever. If you dig up the bottom somewhere they usually want some kind of mitigation somewhere else. Dredging projects usually get coupled to sea grass restoration or something. All of that negotiation takes a lot of time. Army Corps of Engineers is not a private party wanting to do some new development. Dredging the ICW is part of their REGULAR functions whenever they have the resources to go and do it. There is no permitting delay, as this is ongoing maintenance that is already cleared. In fact, it's federally mandated work. The highway department similarly does not need any permits to fill pot holes or replace damaged stop signs. But, the Corps needs a permit to deposit the dredgings someplace. And, they don't get permits with open ended dates. Besides every environmental organization will take any and every opportunity to stop the dredging to save any and all wild life. They have been doing this for decades with no serious problems. It's ongoing scheduled maintenance, mandated by congress. See if you can wrap your puny mind around that and figure out what it means. They could start this work TOMORROW. ....puny little mind...?? From you??? The same Salty who wrote: ************************************************** ***************************** On Wed, 15 Oct 2008 17:34:09 -0400, wrote: Lets hear some more about how you like to f**k your grandson in the a$$ in exchange for a ride on grampys motorcycle. ************************************************** ***************************** Of course, you didn't change any spellings, and Donnie didn't even complain about the language! -- John |
Just heard something interesting...
John wrote:
On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 12:21:23 -0500, wrote: On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 12:08:47 -0500, BAR wrote: wrote: On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 11:50:41 -0500, wrote: On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 11:35:04 -0500, wrote: On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 11:27:36 -0500, wrote: On Wed, 10 Dec 2008 16:42:56 -0500, wrote: Maybe they'll even get around to dredging the ICW properly. They could start tomorrow. They could start applying for the permits tomorrow but I doubt any muck will move for a couple years ... at last around here. Nope, they could start VERY quickly. All they lack is funding. As the trickle of money comes in, they have been doing what they can. You must not have Department of Environmental Protection there. You can't do anything in the water here without a permit and that process drags on forever. If you dig up the bottom somewhere they usually want some kind of mitigation somewhere else. Dredging projects usually get coupled to sea grass restoration or something. All of that negotiation takes a lot of time. Army Corps of Engineers is not a private party wanting to do some new development. Dredging the ICW is part of their REGULAR functions whenever they have the resources to go and do it. There is no permitting delay, as this is ongoing maintenance that is already cleared. In fact, it's federally mandated work. The highway department similarly does not need any permits to fill pot holes or replace damaged stop signs. But, the Corps needs a permit to deposit the dredgings someplace. And, they don't get permits with open ended dates. Besides every environmental organization will take any and every opportunity to stop the dredging to save any and all wild life. They have been doing this for decades with no serious problems. It's ongoing scheduled maintenance, mandated by congress. See if you can wrap your puny mind around that and figure out what it means. They could start this work TOMORROW. ...puny little mind...?? From you??? The same Salty who wrote: ************************************************** ***************************** On Wed, 15 Oct 2008 17:34:09 -0400, wrote: Lets hear some more about how you like to f**k your grandson in the a$$ in exchange for a ride on grampys motorcycle. ************************************************** ***************************** Of course, you didn't change any spellings, and Donnie didn't even complain about the language! You still doing that? |
Just heard something interesting...
On Dec 10, 3:22*pm, Boater wrote:
wrote: On Wed, 10 Dec 2008 14:49:31 -0500, Eisboch wrote: "Boater" wrote in message ... I'm looking forward to the $700 billion to $1 trillion we'll be spending on infrastructure and other improvements. I wish I shared your confidence and enthusiasm. I see the very real probability of a trillion dollars worth of over-budget, behind schedule major projects, laced with bribes, corruption and kickbacks. Well, we have been neglecting our infrastructure. *Properly managed, this program could kill two birds, kick starting the economy, and, bringing our roads, bridges, and schools, up to snuff. *I don't know about you, but I find collapsing bridges down right embarrassing. ;-) Not properly managed, well, that would be pretty much business as usual.. * I have considerable hope Obama can properly manage. Every commercial construction job provides jobs for seven to 10 other workers.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Every Union job provides for seven to 10 watchers... |
Just heard something interesting...
On Dec 10, 1:49*pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message ... I'm looking forward to the $700 billion to $1 trillion we'll be spending on infrastructure and other improvements. I wish I shared your confidence and enthusiasm. I see the very real probability of a trillion dollars worth of over-budget, behind schedule major projects, laced with bribes, corruption and kickbacks. Eisboch Oh man, you can go to Springfield Illinois and see that all you want. |
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