Dodged a bullet...
 

For the 2nd time in a couple of years, I received a notice to report for
jury selection.
In my entire working life, I didn't hear a peep from them...and now that my
time is my own...twice.

Called the info line last week and found that the Dec 01 selection panel was
cancelled.
Just called tonight and they said the selection panel for Dec 08 is
cancelled and I'm off the hook.
I do have mixed feelings...after dealing with some of the motley crew that
lives here, I feel capable to judge wheat from chaff in a New York minute.
A nice warm spot to spend the winter, meeting new friends while being wined,
dined & paid also intrigued me.
Maybe they'll come calling again in a couple of years.

Dodged a bullet...
 

On Sat, 6 Dec 2008 23:51:20 -0400, "Don White"
wrote:

For the 2nd time in a couple of years, I received a notice to report for
jury selection.
In my entire working life, I didn't hear a peep from them...and now that my
time is my own...twice.

That's the way it's done down here too - they pick retired types
because it doesn't cost them any money.

A nice warm spot to spend the winter, meeting new friends while being wined,
dined & paid also intrigued me.

You get paid for jury duty?

Kewl.

Maybe they'll come calling again in a couple of years.

Every time I'm called, I show up, tell them I'm disqualified because I
have a son who is in law enforcement and I drive back home.

You would think they would keep track of that wouldn't you?

It's a PIA.
--

Happy Holidays and Merry Whatever It Is
That ****es Liberals Off.

Dodged a bullet...
 

On Dec 6, 10:01*pm, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:
On Sat, 6 Dec 2008 23:51:20 -0400, "Don White"

wrote:
For the 2nd time in a couple of years, I received a notice to report for
jury selection.
In my entire working life, I didn't hear a peep from them...and now that my
time is my own...twice.

That's the way it's done down here too - they pick retired types
because it doesn't cost them any money.

A nice warm spot to spend the winter, meeting new friends while being wined,
dined & paid also intrigued me.

You get paid for jury duty?

Kewl.

Maybe they'll come calling again in a couple of years.

Every time I'm called, I show up, tell them I'm disqualified because I
have a son who is in law enforcement and I drive back home.

You would think they would keep track of that wouldn't you?

It's a PIA.
--

Happy Holidays and Merry Whatever It Is
That ****es Liberals Off.

I served on a Grand Jury once.

an that was to determine if the case should go to trial.

It did. We let it go. full speed ahead.

Dodged a bullet...
 

Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Sat, 6 Dec 2008 23:51:20 -0400, "Don White"
wrote:

For the 2nd time in a couple of years, I received a notice to report for
jury selection.
In my entire working life, I didn't hear a peep from them...and now that my
time is my own...twice.

That's the way it's done down here too - they pick retired types
because it doesn't cost them any money.

A nice warm spot to spend the winter, meeting new friends while being wined,
dined & paid also intrigued me.

You get paid for jury duty?

Kewl.

Maybe they'll come calling again in a couple of years.

Every time I'm called, I show up, tell them I'm disqualified because I
have a son who is in law enforcement and I drive back home.

You would think they would keep track of that wouldn't you?

It's a PIA.
--

Happy Holidays and Merry Whatever It Is
That ****es Liberals Off.

I provide answers to the attorney's questions that are as short as
humanly possible. I keep a straight face, my arms crossed as much as
possible and show no emotion, and never get past the first cut.

it is scary to see who the attorney's want on the jury.

Dodged a bullet...
 

On Sat, 06 Dec 2008 23:29:26 -0500, wrote:

On Sat, 06 Dec 2008 23:01:43 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

On Sat, 6 Dec 2008 23:51:20 -0400, "Don White"
wrote:

For the 2nd time in a couple of years, I received a notice to report for
jury selection.
In my entire working life, I didn't hear a peep from them...and now that my
time is my own...twice.

That's the way it's done down here too - they pick retired types
because it doesn't cost them any money.

A nice warm spot to spend the winter, meeting new friends while being wined,
dined & paid also intrigued me.

You get paid for jury duty?

Kewl.

Maybe they'll come calling again in a couple of years.

Every time I'm called, I show up, tell them I'm disqualified because I
have a son who is in law enforcement and I drive back home.

You would think they would keep track of that wouldn't you?

It's a PIA.

They pay us a few bucks a day here too.

In CT, the employer is bound to pay for the selection process -
meaning that if you are there for a week, you get paid by your
employer. More than that, it's a sliding scale, the State pays a
certain percentage and the employer pays a certain percentage up to
two weeks at which point the State takes over. If you are selected
for a trial, it's a little different - I'm not sure exactly.

So it's in the State's interest to obtain retired citizens as they
don't cost the state that much. Also, there is a large percentage of
unemployed in jury pools or self-employed - costs them less money.

The hitch is this - if you are retired, the State only pays a flat fee
per diem. Get this - it's $$20. And you have to file for it. And,
this is even funnier, secure parking (which is required for our local
Superior Court) costs $12 and it's not a "you are on a jury and exempt
from parking fee" thing - you have to pay the $12. So your net for
the day spent sitting on your tush waiting to be called is $8.

I also heard just recently from one of my friends who was called up
that the State is reluctant to even let go of the $20. She said that
the administrative court told the jury pool that unless you were
totally on Social Security (no other income pension or otherwise),
don't even bother applying.

I was black listed for a while, I think because during selection in a
case of lawyer v. doctor I told them "I think doctors, lawyers and
insurance companies are a financial perpetual motion money machine
that raises the cost of everything we do".
The other jurors were nodding their heads, all the lawyers were
scribbling on their legal pads and I was out of there in time to still
get a sausage McMuffin. They haven't called me since.

Our local Superior Court only handles criminal cases and the very rare
civil case transferred from another court. The chances of me getting
on a criminal jury is exactly zero. While I know I can be fair,
impartial and evaluate only the evidence presented, I have a kid who
is in law enforcement and that automatically disqualifies me in the
eyes of the attorneys.

Also, I used to volunteer as a 911 dispatcher, active FD/EMS
volunteer, worked with the SP dog team occasionally, worked with the
SP dive team, know half the local troopers personally including the CO
and First Sergeant who are neighbors, etc. Two of the troopers are
high school class mates of my son and three of the local cops plus two
additional troopers were elementary school classmates who I coached in
youth baseball and basketball and baseball in high scool.

There is no way in hell I'd ever get on a criminal jury. :)

--

"An idealist is one who, on noticing that
a rose smells better than a cabbage, concludes
that it will also make better soup."

H.L. Mencken

Dodged a bullet...
 

On Sun, 07 Dec 2008 00:52:58 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Sat, 6 Dec 2008 23:51:20 -0400, "Don White"
wrote:

For the 2nd time in a couple of years, I received a notice to report for
jury selection.
In my entire working life, I didn't hear a peep from them...and now that my
time is my own...twice.

That's the way it's done down here too - they pick retired types
because it doesn't cost them any money.

A nice warm spot to spend the winter, meeting new friends while being wined,
dined & paid also intrigued me.

You get paid for jury duty?

Kewl.

Maybe they'll come calling again in a couple of years.

Every time I'm called, I show up, tell them I'm disqualified because I
have a son who is in law enforcement and I drive back home.

You would think they would keep track of that wouldn't you?

It's a PIA.
--

Happy Holidays and Merry Whatever It Is
That ****es Liberals Off.

I provide answers to the attorney's questions that are as short as
humanly possible. I keep a straight face, my arms crossed as much as
possible and show no emotion, and never get past the first cut.

it is scary to see who the attorney's want on the jury.

They don't seem to fond of military types either, especially with two
brothers who were cops.
--
John H.

Dodged a bullet...
 

JohnH wrote:
On Sun, 07 Dec 2008 00:52:58 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Sat, 6 Dec 2008 23:51:20 -0400, "Don White"
wrote:

For the 2nd time in a couple of years, I received a notice to report for
jury selection.
In my entire working life, I didn't hear a peep from them...and now that my
time is my own...twice.
That's the way it's done down here too - they pick retired types
because it doesn't cost them any money.

A nice warm spot to spend the winter, meeting new friends while being wined,
dined & paid also intrigued me.
You get paid for jury duty?

Kewl.

Maybe they'll come calling again in a couple of years.
Every time I'm called, I show up, tell them I'm disqualified because I
have a son who is in law enforcement and I drive back home.

You would think they would keep track of that wouldn't you?

It's a PIA.
--

Happy Holidays and Merry Whatever It Is
That ****es Liberals Off.
I provide answers to the attorney's questions that are as short as
humanly possible. I keep a straight face, my arms crossed as much as
possible and show no emotion, and never get past the first cut.

it is scary to see who the attorney's want on the jury.

They don't seem to fond of military types either, especially with two
brothers who were cops.


Nice to see folks working so hard to avoid civic duty.

Dodged a bullet...
 

On Sun, 07 Dec 2008 07:51:05 -0500, Boater wrote:

JohnH wrote:
On Sun, 07 Dec 2008 00:52:58 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Sat, 6 Dec 2008 23:51:20 -0400, "Don White"
wrote:

For the 2nd time in a couple of years, I received a notice to report for
jury selection.
In my entire working life, I didn't hear a peep from them...and now that my
time is my own...twice.
That's the way it's done down here too - they pick retired types
because it doesn't cost them any money.

A nice warm spot to spend the winter, meeting new friends while being wined,
dined & paid also intrigued me.
You get paid for jury duty?

Kewl.

Maybe they'll come calling again in a couple of years.
Every time I'm called, I show up, tell them I'm disqualified because I
have a son who is in law enforcement and I drive back home.

You would think they would keep track of that wouldn't you?

It's a PIA.
--

Happy Holidays and Merry Whatever It Is
That ****es Liberals Off.
I provide answers to the attorney's questions that are as short as
humanly possible. I keep a straight face, my arms crossed as much as
possible and show no emotion, and never get past the first cut.

it is scary to see who the attorney's want on the jury.

They don't seem to fond of military types either, especially with two
brothers who were cops.


Nice to see folks working so hard to avoid civic duty.

Who? Donnie? Sounds like everyone showed up and got booted. Would you
recommend lying so as to get selected?
--
John H.

Dodged a bullet...
 

JohnH wrote:
On Sun, 07 Dec 2008 07:51:05 -0500, Boater wrote:

JohnH wrote:
On Sun, 07 Dec 2008 00:52:58 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Sat, 6 Dec 2008 23:51:20 -0400, "Don White"
wrote:

For the 2nd time in a couple of years, I received a notice to report for
jury selection.
In my entire working life, I didn't hear a peep from them...and now that my
time is my own...twice.
That's the way it's done down here too - they pick retired types
because it doesn't cost them any money.

A nice warm spot to spend the winter, meeting new friends while being wined,
dined & paid also intrigued me.
You get paid for jury duty?

Kewl.

Maybe they'll come calling again in a couple of years.
Every time I'm called, I show up, tell them I'm disqualified because I
have a son who is in law enforcement and I drive back home.

You would think they would keep track of that wouldn't you?

It's a PIA.
--

Happy Holidays and Merry Whatever It Is
That ****es Liberals Off.
I provide answers to the attorney's questions that are as short as
humanly possible. I keep a straight face, my arms crossed as much as
possible and show no emotion, and never get past the first cut.

it is scary to see who the attorney's want on the jury.
They don't seem to fond of military types either, especially with two
brothers who were cops.

Nice to see folks working so hard to avoid civic duty.

Who? Donnie? Sounds like everyone showed up and got booted. Would you
recommend lying so as to get selected?


Nice to see folks who are so smug about the games they play to avoid
civic duty.

Dodged a bullet...
 

On Sun, 07 Dec 2008 08:04:26 -0500, Boater wrote:

JohnH wrote:
On Sun, 07 Dec 2008 07:51:05 -0500, Boater wrote:

JohnH wrote:
On Sun, 07 Dec 2008 00:52:58 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Sat, 6 Dec 2008 23:51:20 -0400, "Don White"
wrote:

For the 2nd time in a couple of years, I received a notice to report for
jury selection.
In my entire working life, I didn't hear a peep from them...and now that my
time is my own...twice.
That's the way it's done down here too - they pick retired types
because it doesn't cost them any money.

A nice warm spot to spend the winter, meeting new friends while being wined,
dined & paid also intrigued me.
You get paid for jury duty?

Kewl.

Maybe they'll come calling again in a couple of years.
Every time I'm called, I show up, tell them I'm disqualified because I
have a son who is in law enforcement and I drive back home.

You would think they would keep track of that wouldn't you?

It's a PIA.
--

Happy Holidays and Merry Whatever It Is
That ****es Liberals Off.
I provide answers to the attorney's questions that are as short as
humanly possible. I keep a straight face, my arms crossed as much as
possible and show no emotion, and never get past the first cut.

it is scary to see who the attorney's want on the jury.
They don't seem to fond of military types either, especially with two
brothers who were cops.

Nice to see folks working so hard to avoid civic duty.

Who? Donnie? Sounds like everyone showed up and got booted. Would you
recommend lying so as to get selected?


Nice to see folks who are so smug about the games they play to avoid
civic duty.

What games, Harry? You're obviously suggesting we made an attempt to avoid
duty. How?

Your innuendoes are inept, at best. Go back to bed.
--
John H.

Dodged a bullet...
 

Boater wrote:
JohnH wrote:
On Sun, 07 Dec 2008 07:51:05 -0500, Boater
wrote:

JohnH wrote:
On Sun, 07 Dec 2008 00:52:58 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Sat, 6 Dec 2008 23:51:20 -0400, "Don White"
wrote:

For the 2nd time in a couple of years, I received a notice to
report for jury selection.
In my entire working life, I didn't hear a peep from them...and
now that my time is my own...twice.
That's the way it's done down here too - they pick retired types
because it doesn't cost them any money.

A nice warm spot to spend the winter, meeting new friends while
being wined, dined & paid also intrigued me.
You get paid for jury duty?

Kewl.

Maybe they'll come calling again in a couple of years.
Every time I'm called, I show up, tell them I'm disqualified
because I
have a son who is in law enforcement and I drive back home.

You would think they would keep track of that wouldn't you?

It's a PIA.
--

Happy Holidays and Merry Whatever It Is That ****es Liberals Off.
I provide answers to the attorney's questions that are as short as
humanly possible. I keep a straight face, my arms crossed as much
as possible and show no emotion, and never get past the first cut.

it is scary to see who the attorney's want on the jury.
They don't seem to fond of military types either, especially with two
brothers who were cops.

Nice to see folks working so hard to avoid civic duty.

Who? Donnie? Sounds like everyone showed up and got booted. Would you
recommend lying so as to get selected?


Nice to see folks who are so smug about the games they play to avoid
civic duty.

Maybe their mothers didn't raise no stupid boys. Sound familiar, asshole.

Dodged a bullet...
 

On Sun, 07 Dec 2008 07:14:39 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

On Sat, 06 Dec 2008 23:29:26 -0500, wrote:

On Sat, 06 Dec 2008 23:01:43 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

On Sat, 6 Dec 2008 23:51:20 -0400, "Don White"
wrote:

For the 2nd time in a couple of years, I received a notice to report for
jury selection.
In my entire working life, I didn't hear a peep from them...and now that my
time is my own...twice.

That's the way it's done down here too - they pick retired types
because it doesn't cost them any money.

A nice warm spot to spend the winter, meeting new friends while being wined,
dined & paid also intrigued me.

You get paid for jury duty?

Kewl.

Maybe they'll come calling again in a couple of years.

Every time I'm called, I show up, tell them I'm disqualified because I
have a son who is in law enforcement and I drive back home.

You would think they would keep track of that wouldn't you?

It's a PIA.

They pay us a few bucks a day here too.

In CT, the employer is bound to pay for the selection process -
meaning that if you are there for a week, you get paid by your
employer. More than that, it's a sliding scale, the State pays a
certain percentage and the employer pays a certain percentage up to
two weeks at which point the State takes over. If you are selected
for a trial, it's a little different - I'm not sure exactly.

So it's in the State's interest to obtain retired citizens as they
don't cost the state that much. Also, there is a large percentage of
unemployed in jury pools or self-employed - costs them less money.

The hitch is this - if you are retired, the State only pays a flat fee
per diem. Get this - it's $$20. And you have to file for it. And,
this is even funnier, secure parking (which is required for our local
Superior Court) costs $12 and it's not a "you are on a jury and exempt
from parking fee" thing - you have to pay the $12. So your net for
the day spent sitting on your tush waiting to be called is $8.

I also heard just recently from one of my friends who was called up
that the State is reluctant to even let go of the $20. She said that
the administrative court told the jury pool that unless you were
totally on Social Security (no other income pension or otherwise),
don't even bother applying.

I was black listed for a while, I think because during selection in a
case of lawyer v. doctor I told them "I think doctors, lawyers and
insurance companies are a financial perpetual motion money machine
that raises the cost of everything we do".
The other jurors were nodding their heads, all the lawyers were
scribbling on their legal pads and I was out of there in time to still
get a sausage McMuffin. They haven't called me since.

Our local Superior Court only handles criminal cases and the very rare
civil case transferred from another court. The chances of me getting
on a criminal jury is exactly zero. While I know I can be fair,
impartial and evaluate only the evidence presented, I have a kid who
is in law enforcement and that automatically disqualifies me in the
eyes of the attorneys.

Also, I used to volunteer as a 911 dispatcher, active FD/EMS
volunteer, worked with the SP dog team occasionally, worked with the
SP dive team, know half the local troopers personally including the CO
and First Sergeant who are neighbors, etc. Two of the troopers are
high school class mates of my son and three of the local cops plus two
additional troopers were elementary school classmates who I coached in
youth baseball and basketball and baseball in high scool.

There is no way in hell I'd ever get on a criminal jury. :)

Sounds to Harry like you're playing games to avoid your civic duty.
--
John H.

Dodged a bullet...
 

"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
message ...
snip..
You get paid for jury duty?

Kewl.

snip..

Yes sir...$40. CDN a day. A year ago that was worth something.

Dodged a bullet...
 

Boater wrote:
JohnH wrote:
On Sun, 07 Dec 2008 00:52:58 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Sat, 6 Dec 2008 23:51:20 -0400, "Don White"
wrote:

For the 2nd time in a couple of years, I received a notice to
report for jury selection.
In my entire working life, I didn't hear a peep from them...and now
that my time is my own...twice.
That's the way it's done down here too - they pick retired types
because it doesn't cost them any money.

A nice warm spot to spend the winter, meeting new friends while
being wined, dined & paid also intrigued me.
You get paid for jury duty?

Kewl.

Maybe they'll come calling again in a couple of years.
Every time I'm called, I show up, tell them I'm disqualified because I
have a son who is in law enforcement and I drive back home.

You would think they would keep track of that wouldn't you?

It's a PIA.
--

Happy Holidays and Merry Whatever It Is That ****es Liberals Off.
I provide answers to the attorney's questions that are as short as
humanly possible. I keep a straight face, my arms crossed as much as
possible and show no emotion, and never get past the first cut.

it is scary to see who the attorney's want on the jury.

They don't seem to fond of military types either, especially with two
brothers who were cops.


Nice to see folks working so hard to avoid civic duty.

Are you suggesting that one should pretend to be make judgments based
upon emotions and not fact? The attorneys want to have a jury they can
manipulate, and to play with their emotions. I could pretend to be a
very emotional, lie to give them the answers they want etc, but that
would be illegal.

The personality I portray during the jury selection, is representative
of the way i would deliberate any case. I never lie, I never pretend to
be something i am not, just so I can get on a jury. It is possible that
i could get by the first cut, but I am not the kind of jurist, that
either the defense or prospecting attorney want. It is very obvious by
the questions they ask, who they prefer to have on the jury.

Dodged a bullet...
 

Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:
Boater wrote:
JohnH wrote:
On Sun, 07 Dec 2008 00:52:58 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Sat, 6 Dec 2008 23:51:20 -0400, "Don White"
wrote:

For the 2nd time in a couple of years, I received a notice to
report for jury selection.
In my entire working life, I didn't hear a peep from them...and
now that my time is my own...twice.
That's the way it's done down here too - they pick retired types
because it doesn't cost them any money.

A nice warm spot to spend the winter, meeting new friends while
being wined, dined & paid also intrigued me.
You get paid for jury duty?

Kewl.

Maybe they'll come calling again in a couple of years.
Every time I'm called, I show up, tell them I'm disqualified because I
have a son who is in law enforcement and I drive back home.

You would think they would keep track of that wouldn't you?

It's a PIA.
--

Happy Holidays and Merry Whatever It Is That ****es Liberals Off.
I provide answers to the attorney's questions that are as short as
humanly possible. I keep a straight face, my arms crossed as much
as possible and show no emotion, and never get past the first cut.

it is scary to see who the attorney's want on the jury.

They don't seem to fond of military types either, especially with two
brothers who were cops.


Nice to see folks working so hard to avoid civic duty.

Are you suggesting that one should pretend to be make judgments based
upon emotions and not fact? The attorneys want to have a jury they can
manipulate, and to play with their emotions. I could pretend to be a
very emotional, lie to give them the answers they want etc, but that
would be illegal.

The personality I portray during the jury selection, is representative
of the way i would deliberate any case. I never lie, I never pretend to
be something i am not, just so I can get on a jury. It is possible that
i could get by the first cut, but I am not the kind of jurist, that
either the defense or prospecting attorney want. It is very obvious by
the questions they ask, who they prefer to have on the jury.



You do realize you have to show up with your real name.
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Dodged a bullet...
 

hk wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:
Boater wrote:
JohnH wrote:
On Sun, 07 Dec 2008 00:52:58 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Sat, 6 Dec 2008 23:51:20 -0400, "Don White"
wrote:

For the 2nd time in a couple of years, I received a notice to
report for jury selection.
In my entire working life, I didn't hear a peep from them...and
now that my time is my own...twice.
That's the way it's done down here too - they pick retired types
because it doesn't cost them any money.

A nice warm spot to spend the winter, meeting new friends while
being wined, dined & paid also intrigued me.
You get paid for jury duty?

Kewl.

Maybe they'll come calling again in a couple of years.
Every time I'm called, I show up, tell them I'm disqualified
because I
have a son who is in law enforcement and I drive back home.

You would think they would keep track of that wouldn't you?

It's a PIA.
--

Happy Holidays and Merry Whatever It Is That ****es Liberals Off.
I provide answers to the attorney's questions that are as short as
humanly possible. I keep a straight face, my arms crossed as much
as possible and show no emotion, and never get past the first cut.

it is scary to see who the attorney's want on the jury.

They don't seem to fond of military types either, especially with two
brothers who were cops.


Nice to see folks working so hard to avoid civic duty.

Are you suggesting that one should pretend to be make judgments based
upon emotions and not fact? The attorneys want to have a jury they
can manipulate, and to play with their emotions. I could pretend to
be a very emotional, lie to give them the answers they want etc, but
that would be illegal.

The personality I portray during the jury selection, is representative
of the way i would deliberate any case. I never lie, I never pretend
to be something i am not, just so I can get on a jury. It is possible
that i could get by the first cut, but I am not the kind of jurist,
that either the defense or prospecting attorney want. It is very
obvious by the questions they ask, who they prefer to have on the jury.



You do realize you have to show up with your real name.
-----------------
www.Newsgroup-Binaries.com - *Completion*Retention*Speed*
Access your favorite newsgroups from home or on the road
-----------------

I do, and I do.

Dodged a bullet...
 

Someone I know got out of jury duty, because during selection he was
asked a hypothetical question about capital punishment. His answer was
something flowerdy, like.

"I wish to be a fair person and I believe in jurisprudence, And to
uphold the integrity of this honored court. I also believe that if the
evidence would weigh heavily against the defendant I would move that
we hang the little B*st*rd and get on with life.

"Thank you, you are dismissed"

Dodged a bullet...
 

On Dec 7, 8:04*am, Boater wrote:
JohnH wrote:
On Sun, 07 Dec 2008 07:51:05 -0500, Boater wrote:

JohnH wrote:
On Sun, 07 Dec 2008 00:52:58 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Sat, 6 Dec 2008 23:51:20 -0400, "Don White"
wrote:

For the 2nd time in a couple of years, I received a notice to report for
jury selection.
In my entire working life, I didn't hear a peep from them...and now that my
time is my own...twice.
That's the way it's done down here too - they pick retired types
because it doesn't cost them any money.

A nice warm spot to spend the winter, meeting new friends while being wined,
dined & paid also intrigued me.
You get paid for jury duty?

Kewl.

Maybe they'll come calling again in a couple of years.
Every time I'm called, I show up, tell them I'm disqualified because I
have a son who is in law enforcement and I drive back home.

You would think they would keep track of that wouldn't you?

It's a PIA.
--

Happy Holidays and Merry Whatever It Is
That ****es Liberals Off.
I provide answers to the attorney's questions that are as short as
humanly possible. *I keep a straight face, my arms crossed as much as
possible and show no emotion, and never get past the first cut.

it is scary to see who the attorney's want on the jury.
They don't seem to fond of military types either, especially with two
brothers who were cops.

Nice to see folks working so hard to avoid civic duty.

Who? Donnie? Sounds like everyone showed up and got booted. Would you
recommend lying so as to get selected?

Nice to see folks who are so smug about the games they play to avoid
civic duty.- Hide quoted text -

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Uh, dummy, the lawyers involved are the ones who either put someone in
the jury pool, or not. The individual just answers questions.
Hopefully honestly.

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"Jim" wrote in message
...
Boater wrote:
JohnH wrote:
On Sun, 07 Dec 2008 07:51:05 -0500, Boater
wrote:

JohnH wrote:
On Sun, 07 Dec 2008 00:52:58 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Sat, 6 Dec 2008 23:51:20 -0400, "Don White"
wrote:

For the 2nd time in a couple of years, I received a notice to
report for jury selection.
In my entire working life, I didn't hear a peep from them...and now
that my time is my own...twice.
That's the way it's done down here too - they pick retired types
because it doesn't cost them any money.

A nice warm spot to spend the winter, meeting new friends while
being wined, dined & paid also intrigued me.
You get paid for jury duty?

Kewl.

Maybe they'll come calling again in a couple of years.
Every time I'm called, I show up, tell them I'm disqualified because
I
have a son who is in law enforcement and I drive back home.

You would think they would keep track of that wouldn't you?

It's a PIA.
--

Happy Holidays and Merry Whatever It Is That ****es Liberals Off.
I provide answers to the attorney's questions that are as short as
humanly possible. I keep a straight face, my arms crossed as much as
possible and show no emotion, and never get past the first cut.

it is scary to see who the attorney's want on the jury.
They don't seem to fond of military types either, especially with two
brothers who were cops.

Nice to see folks working so hard to avoid civic duty.

Who? Donnie? Sounds like everyone showed up and got booted. Would you
recommend lying so as to get selected?


Nice to see folks who are so smug about the games they play to avoid
civic duty.

Maybe their mothers didn't raise no stupid boys. Sound familiar, asshole.


Isn't that a double negative?
Are you saying their mothers *did* raise stupid boys?

Dodged a bullet...
 

Don White wrote:
"Jim" wrote in message
...
Boater wrote:
JohnH wrote:
On Sun, 07 Dec 2008 07:51:05 -0500, Boater
wrote:

JohnH wrote:
On Sun, 07 Dec 2008 00:52:58 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Sat, 6 Dec 2008 23:51:20 -0400, "Don White"
wrote:

For the 2nd time in a couple of years, I received a notice to
report for jury selection.
In my entire working life, I didn't hear a peep from them...and now
that my time is my own...twice.
That's the way it's done down here too - they pick retired types
because it doesn't cost them any money.

A nice warm spot to spend the winter, meeting new friends while
being wined, dined & paid also intrigued me.
You get paid for jury duty?

Kewl.

Maybe they'll come calling again in a couple of years.
Every time I'm called, I show up, tell them I'm disqualified because
I
have a son who is in law enforcement and I drive back home.

You would think they would keep track of that wouldn't you?

It's a PIA.
--

Happy Holidays and Merry Whatever It Is That ****es Liberals Off.
I provide answers to the attorney's questions that are as short as
humanly possible. I keep a straight face, my arms crossed as much as
possible and show no emotion, and never get past the first cut.

it is scary to see who the attorney's want on the jury.
They don't seem to fond of military types either, especially with two
brothers who were cops.
Nice to see folks working so hard to avoid civic duty.
Who? Donnie? Sounds like everyone showed up and got booted. Would you
recommend lying so as to get selected?

Nice to see folks who are so smug about the games they play to avoid
civic duty.
Maybe their mothers didn't raise no stupid boys. Sound familiar, asshole.


Isn't that a double negative?
Are you saying their mothers *did* raise stupid boys?



FloridaJim has brothers?

Dodged a bullet...
 

Don White wrote:
"Jim" wrote in message
...
Boater wrote:
JohnH wrote:
On Sun, 07 Dec 2008 07:51:05 -0500, Boater
wrote:

JohnH wrote:
On Sun, 07 Dec 2008 00:52:58 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Sat, 6 Dec 2008 23:51:20 -0400, "Don White"
wrote:

For the 2nd time in a couple of years, I received a notice to
report for jury selection.
In my entire working life, I didn't hear a peep from them...and now
that my time is my own...twice.
That's the way it's done down here too - they pick retired types
because it doesn't cost them any money.

A nice warm spot to spend the winter, meeting new friends while
being wined, dined & paid also intrigued me.
You get paid for jury duty?

Kewl.

Maybe they'll come calling again in a couple of years.
Every time I'm called, I show up, tell them I'm disqualified because
I
have a son who is in law enforcement and I drive back home.

You would think they would keep track of that wouldn't you?

It's a PIA.
--

Happy Holidays and Merry Whatever It Is That ****es Liberals Off.
I provide answers to the attorney's questions that are as short as
humanly possible. I keep a straight face, my arms crossed as much as
possible and show no emotion, and never get past the first cut.

it is scary to see who the attorney's want on the jury.
They don't seem to fond of military types either, especially with two
brothers who were cops.
Nice to see folks working so hard to avoid civic duty.
Who? Donnie? Sounds like everyone showed up and got booted. Would you
recommend lying so as to get selected?

Nice to see folks who are so smug about the games they play to avoid
civic duty.
Maybe their mothers didn't raise no stupid boys. Sound familiar, asshole.


Isn't that a double negative?
Are you saying their mothers *did* raise stupid boys?


Nope.

Harry says something similar when confronted with the fact that he was
too much of a coward to accept his civic duty to enlist or allow himself
to be drafted. But you know that. Don't you Donnie?

Dodged a bullet...
 

On Dec 7, 5:34*pm, "Don White" wrote:
"Jim" wrote in message

...



Boater wrote:
JohnH wrote:
On Sun, 07 Dec 2008 07:51:05 -0500, Boater
wrote:

JohnH wrote:
On Sun, 07 Dec 2008 00:52:58 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Sat, 6 Dec 2008 23:51:20 -0400, "Don White"
wrote:

For the 2nd time in a couple of years, I received a notice to
report for jury selection.
In my entire working life, I didn't hear a peep from them...and now
that my time is my own...twice.
That's the way it's done down here too - they pick retired types
because it doesn't cost them any money.

A nice warm spot to spend the winter, meeting new friends while
being wined, dined & paid also intrigued me.
You get paid for jury duty?

Kewl.

Maybe they'll come calling again in a couple of years.
Every time I'm called, I show up, tell them I'm disqualified because
I
have a son who is in law enforcement and I drive back home.

You would think they would keep track of that wouldn't you?

It's a PIA.
--

Happy Holidays and Merry Whatever It Is That ****es Liberals Off.
I provide answers to the attorney's questions that are as short as
humanly possible. *I keep a straight face, my arms crossed as much as
possible and show no emotion, and never get past the first cut.

it is scary to see who the attorney's want on the jury.
They don't seem to fond of military types either, especially with two
brothers who were cops.

Nice to see folks working so hard to avoid civic duty.

Who? Donnie? Sounds like everyone showed up and got booted. Would you
recommend lying so as to get selected?

Nice to see folks who are so smug about the games they play to avoid
civic duty.

Maybe their mothers didn't raise no stupid boys. Sound familiar, asshole.

Isn't that a double negative?
Are you saying their mothers *did* raise stupid boys?

Donny, I'm sure the grammer isa bout as good as my proof reading
skills.

however, I don't use no bad grammers.

Dodged a bullet...
 

"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
message ...
On Sat, 06 Dec 2008 23:29:26 -0500, wrote:

On Sat, 06 Dec 2008 23:01:43 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

On Sat, 6 Dec 2008 23:51:20 -0400, "Don White"
wrote:

For the 2nd time in a couple of years, I received a notice to report for
jury selection.
In my entire working life, I didn't hear a peep from them...and now that
my
time is my own...twice.

That's the way it's done down here too - they pick retired types
because it doesn't cost them any money.

A nice warm spot to spend the winter, meeting new friends while being
wined,
dined & paid also intrigued me.

You get paid for jury duty?

Kewl.

Maybe they'll come calling again in a couple of years.

Every time I'm called, I show up, tell them I'm disqualified because I
have a son who is in law enforcement and I drive back home.

You would think they would keep track of that wouldn't you?

It's a PIA.

They pay us a few bucks a day here too.

In CT, the employer is bound to pay for the selection process -
meaning that if you are there for a week, you get paid by your
employer. More than that, it's a sliding scale, the State pays a
certain percentage and the employer pays a certain percentage up to
two weeks at which point the State takes over. If you are selected
for a trial, it's a little different - I'm not sure exactly.

So it's in the State's interest to obtain retired citizens as they
don't cost the state that much. Also, there is a large percentage of
unemployed in jury pools or self-employed - costs them less money.

The hitch is this - if you are retired, the State only pays a flat fee
per diem. Get this - it's $$20. And you have to file for it. And,
this is even funnier, secure parking (which is required for our local
Superior Court) costs $12 and it's not a "you are on a jury and exempt
from parking fee" thing - you have to pay the $12. So your net for
the day spent sitting on your tush waiting to be called is $8.

I also heard just recently from one of my friends who was called up
that the State is reluctant to even let go of the $20. She said that
the administrative court told the jury pool that unless you were
totally on Social Security (no other income pension or otherwise),
don't even bother applying.

I was black listed for a while, I think because during selection in a
case of lawyer v. doctor I told them "I think doctors, lawyers and
insurance companies are a financial perpetual motion money machine
that raises the cost of everything we do".
The other jurors were nodding their heads, all the lawyers were
scribbling on their legal pads and I was out of there in time to still
get a sausage McMuffin. They haven't called me since.

Our local Superior Court only handles criminal cases and the very rare
civil case transferred from another court. The chances of me getting
on a criminal jury is exactly zero. While I know I can be fair,
impartial and evaluate only the evidence presented, I have a kid who
is in law enforcement and that automatically disqualifies me in the
eyes of the attorneys.

Also, I used to volunteer as a 911 dispatcher, active FD/EMS
volunteer, worked with the SP dog team occasionally, worked with the
SP dive team, know half the local troopers personally including the CO
and First Sergeant who are neighbors, etc. Two of the troopers are
high school class mates of my son and three of the local cops plus two
additional troopers were elementary school classmates who I coached in
youth baseball and basketball and baseball in high scool.

There is no way in hell I'd ever get on a criminal jury. :)

--

"An idealist is one who, on noticing that
a rose smells better than a cabbage, concludes
that it will also make better soup."

H.L. Mencken

We get $15 a day after the first day, and I think 30 cents a mile one way
from home to the court house. Since we can go to about 4 different courts,
that part varies. Don just likes to shirk his civic duty. Sad.

Dodged a bullet...
 

wrote in message
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On Dec 7, 8:04 am, Boater wrote:
JohnH wrote:
On Sun, 07 Dec 2008 07:51:05 -0500, Boater
wrote:

JohnH wrote:
On Sun, 07 Dec 2008 00:52:58 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Sat, 6 Dec 2008 23:51:20 -0400, "Don White"
wrote:

For the 2nd time in a couple of years, I received a notice to
report for
jury selection.
In my entire working life, I didn't hear a peep from them...and now
that my
time is my own...twice.
That's the way it's done down here too - they pick retired types
because it doesn't cost them any money.

A nice warm spot to spend the winter, meeting new friends while
being wined,
dined & paid also intrigued me.
You get paid for jury duty?

Kewl.

Maybe they'll come calling again in a couple of years.
Every time I'm called, I show up, tell them I'm disqualified because
I
have a son who is in law enforcement and I drive back home.

You would think they would keep track of that wouldn't you?

It's a PIA.
--

Happy Holidays and Merry Whatever It Is
That ****es Liberals Off.
I provide answers to the attorney's questions that are as short as
humanly possible. I keep a straight face, my arms crossed as much as
possible and show no emotion, and never get past the first cut.

it is scary to see who the attorney's want on the jury.
They don't seem to fond of military types either, especially with two
brothers who were cops.

Nice to see folks working so hard to avoid civic duty.

Who? Donnie? Sounds like everyone showed up and got booted. Would you
recommend lying so as to get selected?

Nice to see folks who are so smug about the games they play to avoid
civic duty.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Uh, dummy, the lawyers involved are the ones who either put someone in
the jury pool, or not. The individual just answers questions.
Hopefully honestly.

The lawers get to pick the jury. The Jury commissioner picks the jury pool.
Here in Calif it comes from voter registration and drivers license lists.

Dodged a bullet...
 

"Tim" wrote in message
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Someone I know got out of jury duty, because during selection he was
asked a hypothetical question about capital punishment. His answer was
something flowerdy, like.

"I wish to be a fair person and I believe in jurisprudence, And to
uphold the integrity of this honored court. I also believe that if the
evidence would weigh heavily against the defendant I would move that
we hang the little B*st*rd and get on with life.

"Thank you, you are dismissed"

Last case I got called for was a murder 1, capital case. Asked my opinion
on the death penalty, I stated I can go either way. That we really do not
have a death penalty in this state as it takes years if ever to execute.
Costs 10 times the amount to keep them for life. So I am inclined to go for
life without parole, but I would have no problem with them getting a death
penalty. Was not the reason they did not like me for the jury,

Dodged a bullet...
 

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
m...


The lawers get to pick the jury. The Jury commissioner picks the jury
pool. Here in Calif it comes from voter registration and drivers license
lists.


Similar here in MA.

It's funny. I lived in a neighboring town for 18 years before moving to my
current address.
During that 18 years I was called for jury duty 7 or 8 times. Once or twice
I was called before the 2 year between duty period was up.

We moved to our current town 8 years ago. Haven't been called once.
My feeling on jury duty has changed. I know it's a "civic duty" and all
that, but I think 7 times is enough civic duty. I don't like playing god
with other people's lives.

Eisboch

Dodged a bullet...
 

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
m...

We get $15 a day after the first day, and I think 30 cents a mile one way
from home to the court house. Since we can go to about 4 different
courts, that part varies. Don just likes to shirk his civic duty. Sad.


What...are you Kalifornia Dreamin' again?
I did exactly as asked and was ready to report. They decided my group
wasn't needed.

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"Calif Bill" wrote in message
m...

"Tim" wrote in message
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Someone I know got out of jury duty, because during selection he was
asked a hypothetical question about capital punishment. His answer was
something flowerdy, like.

"I wish to be a fair person and I believe in jurisprudence, And to
uphold the integrity of this honored court. I also believe that if the
evidence would weigh heavily against the defendant I would move that
we hang the little B*st*rd and get on with life.

"Thank you, you are dismissed"

Last case I got called for was a murder 1, capital case. Asked my opinion
on the death penalty, I stated I can go either way. That we really do not
have a death penalty in this state as it takes years if ever to execute.
Costs 10 times the amount to keep them for life. So I am inclined to go
for life without parole, but I would have no problem with them getting a
death penalty. Was not the reason they did not like me for the jury,


What was the reason...... ?

Dodged a bullet...
 

Don White wrote:
"Calif Bill" wrote in message
m...
"Tim" wrote in message
...

Someone I know got out of jury duty, because during selection he was
asked a hypothetical question about capital punishment. His answer was
something flowerdy, like.

"I wish to be a fair person and I believe in jurisprudence, And to
uphold the integrity of this honored court. I also believe that if the
evidence would weigh heavily against the defendant I would move that
we hang the little B*st*rd and get on with life.

"Thank you, you are dismissed"
Last case I got called for was a murder 1, capital case. Asked my opinion
on the death penalty, I stated I can go either way. That we really do not
have a death penalty in this state as it takes years if ever to execute.
Costs 10 times the amount to keep them for life. So I am inclined to go
for life without parole, but I would have no problem with them getting a
death penalty. Was not the reason they did not like me for the jury,


What was the reason...... ?



Failure to bathe regularly? :)

Dodged a bullet...
 

"Tim" wrote in message
...
On Dec 7, 10:50 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
"Tim" wrote in message

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Someone I know got out of jury duty, because during selection he was
asked a hypothetical question about capital punishment. His answer was
something flowerdy, like.

"I wish to be a fair person and I believe in jurisprudence, And to
uphold the integrity of this honored court. I also believe that if the
evidence would weigh heavily against the defendant I would move that
we hang the little B*st*rd and get on with life.

"Thank you, you are dismissed"

Last case I got called for was a murder 1, capital case. Asked my opinion
on the death penalty, I stated I can go either way. That we really do not
have a death penalty in this state as it takes years if ever to execute.
Costs 10 times the amount to keep them for life. So I am inclined to go
for
life without parole, but I would have no problem with them getting a death
penalty. Was not the reason they did not like me for the jury,

But I doubt that you used that phrase either:

"...I would move that we hang the little B*st*rd and get on with life.
"

He was a big B*st*rd.

Dodged a bullet...
 

"Boater" wrote in message
...
Don White wrote:
"Calif Bill" wrote in message
m...
"Tim" wrote in message
...

Someone I know got out of jury duty, because during selection he was
asked a hypothetical question about capital punishment. His answer was
something flowerdy, like.

"I wish to be a fair person and I believe in jurisprudence, And to
uphold the integrity of this honored court. I also believe that if the
evidence would weigh heavily against the defendant I would move that
we hang the little B*st*rd and get on with life.

"Thank you, you are dismissed"
Last case I got called for was a murder 1, capital case. Asked my
opinion on the death penalty, I stated I can go either way. That we
really do not have a death penalty in this state as it takes years if
ever to execute. Costs 10 times the amount to keep them for life. So I
am inclined to go for life without parole, but I would have no problem
with them getting a death penalty. Was not the reason they did not like
me for the jury,


What was the reason...... ?

Failure to bathe regularly? :)

I keep telling you to not judge others by yourself.

Dodged a bullet...
 

"Don White" wrote in message
...

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
m...

"Tim" wrote in message
...


Someone I know got out of jury duty, because during selection he was
asked a hypothetical question about capital punishment. His answer was
something flowerdy, like.

"I wish to be a fair person and I believe in jurisprudence, And to
uphold the integrity of this honored court. I also believe that if the
evidence would weigh heavily against the defendant I would move that
we hang the little B*st*rd and get on with life.

"Thank you, you are dismissed"

Last case I got called for was a murder 1, capital case. Asked my
opinion on the death penalty, I stated I can go either way. That we
really do not have a death penalty in this state as it takes years if
ever to execute. Costs 10 times the amount to keep them for life. So I
am inclined to go for life without parole, but I would have no problem
with them getting a death penalty. Was not the reason they did not like
me for the jury,


What was the reason...... ?


Gun crime penalty stance. I support the Richmond Virginia stance of exile
for a long time if you use a gun in a robbery. Judge loved me. Attorneys
did also. Just that the defense atty saw bad things for his clients. Judge
asked my stance on guns and gun crimes. I mentioned Richmond and he
informed me that we just got to say if the perp was guilty, he got to
sentence them. I informed him I took civics and did know that, but I could
hope he sent them away for a long time. Judge and attorneys completely lost
it in laughing. That is when the defense atty excused me.

Dodged a bullet...
 

Don White wrote:
"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
message ...
snip..
You get paid for jury duty?

Kewl.

snip..

Yes sir...$40. CDN a day. A year ago that was worth something.



It's more than you make now.

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Boater wrote:
JohnH wrote:
On Sun, 07 Dec 2008 00:52:58 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Sat, 6 Dec 2008 23:51:20 -0400, "Don White"
wrote:

For the 2nd time in a couple of years, I received a notice to
report for jury selection.
In my entire working life, I didn't hear a peep from them...and now
that my time is my own...twice.
That's the way it's done down here too - they pick retired types
because it doesn't cost them any money.

A nice warm spot to spend the winter, meeting new friends while
being wined, dined & paid also intrigued me.
You get paid for jury duty?

Kewl.

Maybe they'll come calling again in a couple of years.
Every time I'm called, I show up, tell them I'm disqualified because I
have a son who is in law enforcement and I drive back home.

You would think they would keep track of that wouldn't you?

It's a PIA.
--

Happy Holidays and Merry Whatever It Is That ****es Liberals Off.
I provide answers to the attorney's questions that are as short as
humanly possible. I keep a straight face, my arms crossed as much as
possible and show no emotion, and never get past the first cut.

it is scary to see who the attorney's want on the jury.

They don't seem to fond of military types either, especially with two
brothers who were cops.


Nice to see folks working so hard to avoid civic duty.

Like draft dodgers...

Dodged a bullet...
 

Don White wrote:
"Jim" wrote in message
...
Boater wrote:
JohnH wrote:
On Sun, 07 Dec 2008 07:51:05 -0500, Boater
wrote:

JohnH wrote:
On Sun, 07 Dec 2008 00:52:58 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Sat, 6 Dec 2008 23:51:20 -0400, "Don White"
wrote:

For the 2nd time in a couple of years, I received a notice to
report for jury selection.
In my entire working life, I didn't hear a peep from them...and now
that my time is my own...twice.
That's the way it's done down here too - they pick retired types
because it doesn't cost them any money.

A nice warm spot to spend the winter, meeting new friends while
being wined, dined & paid also intrigued me.
You get paid for jury duty?

Kewl.

Maybe they'll come calling again in a couple of years.
Every time I'm called, I show up, tell them I'm disqualified because
I
have a son who is in law enforcement and I drive back home.

You would think they would keep track of that wouldn't you?

It's a PIA.
--

Happy Holidays and Merry Whatever It Is That ****es Liberals Off.
I provide answers to the attorney's questions that are as short as
humanly possible. I keep a straight face, my arms crossed as much as
possible and show no emotion, and never get past the first cut.

it is scary to see who the attorney's want on the jury.
They don't seem to fond of military types either, especially with two
brothers who were cops.
Nice to see folks working so hard to avoid civic duty.
Who? Donnie? Sounds like everyone showed up and got booted. Would you
recommend lying so as to get selected?

Nice to see folks who are so smug about the games they play to avoid
civic duty.
Maybe their mothers didn't raise no stupid boys. Sound familiar, asshole.


Isn't that a double negative?
Are you saying their mothers *did* raise stupid boys?



The jury's still out on yours, dummy.