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Took my time - composed, used the light meter, got it.
Unretouched - no post processing. http://www.swsports.org/Photography/_C060213.bmp Shot this morning while walking through my 100 Acre Woods. -- "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats." H. L. Mencken |
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"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in message ... Took my time - composed, used the light meter, got it. Unretouched - no post processing. http://www.swsports.org/Photography/_C060213.bmp Shot this morning while walking through my 100 Acre Woods. -- Very, very nice. But why does it load from the bottom up instead of the top down? I resisted an urge to turn my monitor upside down as it loaded. Eisboch |
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On Dec 6, 3:23*pm, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote: Took my time - composed, used the light meter, got it. Unretouched - no post processing. http://www.swsports.org/Photography/_C060213.bmp Shot this morning *while walking through my 100 Acre Woods. -- "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats." H. L. Mencken I must be missing something Tom, with the exception of your typical monster holding a stick just off-center to the right, i can't see the forest for the trees. |
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"Eisboch" wrote in message ... "Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in message ... Took my time - composed, used the light meter, got it. Unretouched - no post processing. http://www.swsports.org/Photography/_C060213.bmp Shot this morning while walking through my 100 Acre Woods. -- Very, very nice. But why does it load from the bottom up instead of the top down? I resisted an urge to turn my monitor upside down as it loaded. Eisboch Bitmap format, it is based as cooardiantes of 0,0 being the bottom left. Many others like jpg are based on top left. Browers will show partial files as they download in the order recieved so from bottom up the .bmp files go. |
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"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in message ... Took my time - composed, used the light meter, got it. Unretouched - no post processing. http://www.swsports.org/Photography/_C060213.bmp Shot this morning while walking through my 100 Acre Woods. Terrific side lighting, great tonality. I like it. |
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On Sat, 6 Dec 2008 13:47:33 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:
On Dec 6, 3:23*pm, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: Took my time - composed, used the light meter, got it. Unretouched - no post processing. http://www.swsports.org/Photography/_C060213.bmp Shot this morning *while walking through my 100 Acre Woods. -- "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats." H. L. Mencken I must be missing something Tom, with the exception of your typical monster holding a stick just off-center to the right, i can't see the forest for the trees. You didn't see the squirrel? -- John H. |
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On Dec 6, 6:52*pm, JohnH wrote:
On Sat, 6 Dec 2008 13:47:33 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: On Dec 6, 3:23*pm, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: Took my time - composed, used the light meter, got it. Unretouched - no post processing. http://www.swsports.org/Photography/_C060213.bmp Shot this morning *while walking through my 100 Acre Woods. -- "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats." H. L. Mencken I must be missing something Tom, with the exception of your typical monster holding a stick just off-center to the right, i can't see the forest for the trees. You didn't see the squirrel? -- John H. You mean there's a squirrel in there? |
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On Sat, 6 Dec 2008 16:32:32 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote: "Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in message ... Took my time - composed, used the light meter, got it. Unretouched - no post processing. http://www.swsports.org/Photography/_C060213.bmp Shot this morning while walking through my 100 Acre Woods. Very, very nice. But why does it load from the bottom up instead of the top down? I resisted an urge to turn my monitor upside down as it loaded. It's a bit map which I think starts at 0,0 - which is at the bottom. Although it doens't do that on my computer. Hmmmm.... -- "Do what you can, with what you have, where you are." Theodore Roosevelt. |
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"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in message ... Took my time - composed, used the light meter, got it. Unretouched - no post processing. http://www.swsports.org/Photography/_C060213.bmp Shot this morning while walking through my 100 Acre Woods. -- "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats." H. L. Mencken I figured the Martian trees to be bigger. |
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On Sat, 6 Dec 2008 17:49:54 -0700, "RG" wrote:
"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in message ... Took my time - composed, used the light meter, got it. Unretouched - no post processing. http://www.swsports.org/Photography/_C060213.bmp Shot this morning while walking through my 100 Acre Woods. Terrific side lighting, great tonality. I like it. Yeah - I really liked the way that one turned out. Here's the color version if you are interested. http://www.swsports.org/Photography/_C060213.JPG -- "Do what you can, with what you have, where you are." Theodore Roosevelt. |
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"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in message ... On Sat, 6 Dec 2008 17:49:54 -0700, "RG" wrote: "Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in message ... Took my time - composed, used the light meter, got it. Unretouched - no post processing. http://www.swsports.org/Photography/_C060213.bmp Shot this morning while walking through my 100 Acre Woods. Terrific side lighting, great tonality. I like it. Yeah - I really liked the way that one turned out. Here's the color version if you are interested. http://www.swsports.org/Photography/_C060213.JPG -- I think due to the subdued light and pale colors, it's more successful in grayscale. Luminosity trumps chroma on this one. |
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On Dec 6, 7:29*pm, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote: On Sat, 6 Dec 2008 17:49:54 -0700, "RG" wrote: "Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in messagenews:34rlj4l1uebal3lmnn4l56r5o6pgjn099j@4a x.com... Took my time - composed, used the light meter, got it. Unretouched - no post processing. http://www.swsports.org/Photography/_C060213.bmp Shot this morning *while walking through my 100 Acre Woods. Terrific side lighting, great tonality. *I like it. Yeah - I really liked the way that one turned out. Here's the color version if you are interested. http://www.swsports.org/Photography/_C060213.JPG -- "Do what you can, with what you have, where you are." Theodore Roosevelt. Well, I like the colorized one a bit better, but the squinty-eyed monster is still there. Is that the squirrel that John was talking about? |
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On Sat, 6 Dec 2008 17:08:26 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:
On Dec 6, 6:52*pm, JohnH wrote: On Sat, 6 Dec 2008 13:47:33 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: On Dec 6, 3:23*pm, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: Took my time - composed, used the light meter, got it. Unretouched - no post processing. http://www.swsports.org/Photography/_C060213.bmp Shot this morning *while walking through my 100 Acre Woods. -- "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats." H. L. Mencken I must be missing something Tom, with the exception of your typical monster holding a stick just off-center to the right, i can't see the forest for the trees. You didn't see the squirrel? -- John H. You mean there's a squirrel in there? Well, maybe it left before you had a chance to view it. Digital wonders, you know. -- John H. |
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On Sat, 6 Dec 2008 18:39:15 -0700, "RG" wrote:
"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in message ... On Sat, 6 Dec 2008 17:49:54 -0700, "RG" wrote: "Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in message ... Took my time - composed, used the light meter, got it. Unretouched - no post processing. http://www.swsports.org/Photography/_C060213.bmp Shot this morning while walking through my 100 Acre Woods. Terrific side lighting, great tonality. I like it. Yeah - I really liked the way that one turned out. Here's the color version if you are interested. http://www.swsports.org/Photography/_C060213.JPG I think due to the subdued light and pale colors, it's more successful in grayscale. Luminosity trumps chroma on this one. I just processed the hell out of it - everything except sharpness. Not sure if it's any better or not. Certainly looks different than it did when I shot it - not at all what I saw. What do you think? http://www.swsports.org/Photography/..._processed.jpg |
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On Dec 6, 8:38*pm, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote: On Sat, 6 Dec 2008 18:39:15 -0700, "RG" wrote: "Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in messagenews:ef9mj4t37dqpcgife9q615gisvs4ftq277@4a x.com... On Sat, 6 Dec 2008 17:49:54 -0700, "RG" wrote: "Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in messagenews:34rlj4l1uebal3lmnn4l56r5o6pgjn099j@ 4ax.com... Took my time - composed, used the light meter, got it. Unretouched - no post processing. http://www.swsports.org/Photography/_C060213.bmp Shot this morning *while walking through my 100 Acre Woods. Terrific side lighting, great tonality. *I like it. Yeah - I really liked the way that one turned out. Here's the color version if you are interested. http://www.swsports.org/Photography/_C060213.JPG I think due to the subdued light and pale colors, it's more successful in grayscale. *Luminosity trumps chroma on this one. I just processed the hell out of it - everything except sharpness. Not sure if it's any better or not. Certainly looks different than it did when I shot it - not at all what I saw. What do you think? http://www.swsports.org/Photography/..._processed.jpg looking like a really ice fall scene. I really like that one. (BTW, even though it's now more transparent, I can still make out the image of the monster) |
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"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in message ... On Sat, 6 Dec 2008 18:39:15 -0700, "RG" wrote: "Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in message ... On Sat, 6 Dec 2008 17:49:54 -0700, "RG" wrote: "Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in message ... Took my time - composed, used the light meter, got it. Unretouched - no post processing. http://www.swsports.org/Photography/_C060213.bmp Shot this morning while walking through my 100 Acre Woods. Terrific side lighting, great tonality. I like it. Yeah - I really liked the way that one turned out. Here's the color version if you are interested. http://www.swsports.org/Photography/_C060213.JPG I think due to the subdued light and pale colors, it's more successful in grayscale. Luminosity trumps chroma on this one. I just processed the hell out of it - everything except sharpness. Not sure if it's any better or not. Certainly looks different than it did when I shot it - not at all what I saw. What do you think? http://www.swsports.org/Photography/..._processed.jpg As a photograph that shows me what your woods look like, I like the second color version. I think it's a better documentation of what the woods would look like on a given day, even though I've never been there. But as an object d'art, I prefer the grayscale image. It has major mood going for it. For me, this photo is all about light and shadow. And removing the chroma in this case removes all competition for attention to the luminosity. |
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On Sat, 6 Dec 2008 19:53:20 -0700, "RG" wrote:
"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in message ... On Sat, 6 Dec 2008 18:39:15 -0700, "RG" wrote: "Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in message ... On Sat, 6 Dec 2008 17:49:54 -0700, "RG" wrote: "Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in message ... Took my time - composed, used the light meter, got it. Unretouched - no post processing. http://www.swsports.org/Photography/_C060213.bmp Shot this morning while walking through my 100 Acre Woods. Terrific side lighting, great tonality. I like it. Yeah - I really liked the way that one turned out. Here's the color version if you are interested. http://www.swsports.org/Photography/_C060213.JPG I think due to the subdued light and pale colors, it's more successful in grayscale. Luminosity trumps chroma on this one. I just processed the hell out of it - everything except sharpness. Not sure if it's any better or not. Certainly looks different than it did when I shot it - not at all what I saw. What do you think? http://www.swsports.org/Photography/..._processed.jpg As a photograph that shows me what your woods look like, I like the second color version. I think it's a better documentation of what the woods would look like on a given day, even though I've never been there. But as an object d'art, I prefer the grayscale image. It has major mood going for it. For me, this photo is all about light and shadow. And removing the chroma in this case removes all competition for attention to the luminosity. That's a good way to describe it - I agree totally. I've also took some shots with my pond in the background - I'll work on those and see what you think of them. They will need some adjustment as they didn't quite come out the way I wanted them to. Needs some adjustment. |
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RG wrote:
"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in message ... Took my time - composed, used the light meter, got it. Unretouched - no post processing. http://www.swsports.org/Photography/_C060213.bmp Shot this morning while walking through my 100 Acre Woods. Terrific side lighting, great tonality. I like it. I liked it, as RG mentioned, nice tonaity and range, no blow highlights or lost low ligts. Not only that but if you look in the upper left corner you can see Sasquatch. |
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On Sat, 6 Dec 2008 19:53:20 -0700, "RG" wrote:
as an object d'art, I prefer the grayscale image Yes. |
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Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Sat, 6 Dec 2008 19:53:20 -0700, "RG" wrote: "Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in message ... On Sat, 6 Dec 2008 18:39:15 -0700, "RG" wrote: "Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in message ... On Sat, 6 Dec 2008 17:49:54 -0700, "RG" wrote: "Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in message ... Took my time - composed, used the light meter, got it. Unretouched - no post processing. http://www.swsports.org/Photography/_C060213.bmp Shot this morning while walking through my 100 Acre Woods. Terrific side lighting, great tonality. I like it. Yeah - I really liked the way that one turned out. Here's the color version if you are interested. http://www.swsports.org/Photography/_C060213.JPG I think due to the subdued light and pale colors, it's more successful in grayscale. Luminosity trumps chroma on this one. I just processed the hell out of it - everything except sharpness. Not sure if it's any better or not. Certainly looks different than it did when I shot it - not at all what I saw. What do you think? http://www.swsports.org/Photography/..._processed.jpg As a photograph that shows me what your woods look like, I like the second color version. I think it's a better documentation of what the woods would look like on a given day, even though I've never been there. But as an object d'art, I prefer the grayscale image. It has major mood going for it. For me, this photo is all about light and shadow. And removing the chroma in this case removes all competition for attention to the luminosity. That's a good way to describe it - I agree totally. I've also took some shots with my pond in the background - I'll work on those and see what you think of them. They will need some adjustment as they didn't quite come out the way I wanted them to. Needs some adjustment. Nice woods, good photos. One small quibble, if you compare the file sizes of the as shot and processed coluur images, you will see that the processed one is less than half the size. Visually comparing a limited portion of the image will show you how much detail you have lost. (e.g. There is a knot in the trunk at X,Y 560,180 (from top left) and the bark has noticably less texture in the processed version.) while I'm nitpicking, whats with the BMP file? Odd choice of format for either storage and processing (I tend to prefer TIFF for its lossless compression and good portability accross the rather dated tools I use) or internet use (non windows based browsers will probably choke on it). If you want a lossless compressable format that is web friendly, why not use PNG? |
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On Sun, 07 Dec 2008 11:27:19 +0000, IanM
wrote: Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: On Sat, 6 Dec 2008 19:53:20 -0700, "RG" wrote: "Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in message ... On Sat, 6 Dec 2008 18:39:15 -0700, "RG" wrote: "Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in message ... On Sat, 6 Dec 2008 17:49:54 -0700, "RG" wrote: "Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in message ... Took my time - composed, used the light meter, got it. Unretouched - no post processing. http://www.swsports.org/Photography/_C060213.bmp Shot this morning while walking through my 100 Acre Woods. Terrific side lighting, great tonality. I like it. Yeah - I really liked the way that one turned out. Here's the color version if you are interested. http://www.swsports.org/Photography/_C060213.JPG I think due to the subdued light and pale colors, it's more successful in grayscale. Luminosity trumps chroma on this one. I just processed the hell out of it - everything except sharpness. Not sure if it's any better or not. Certainly looks different than it did when I shot it - not at all what I saw. What do you think? http://www.swsports.org/Photography/..._processed.jpg As a photograph that shows me what your woods look like, I like the second color version. I think it's a better documentation of what the woods would look like on a given day, even though I've never been there. But as an object d'art, I prefer the grayscale image. It has major mood going for it. For me, this photo is all about light and shadow. And removing the chroma in this case removes all competition for attention to the luminosity. That's a good way to describe it - I agree totally. I've also took some shots with my pond in the background - I'll work on those and see what you think of them. They will need some adjustment as they didn't quite come out the way I wanted them to. Needs some adjustment. Nice woods, good photos. One small quibble, if you compare the file sizes of the as shot and processed coluur images, you will see that the processed one is less than half the size. Visually comparing a limited portion of the image will show you how much detail you have lost. (e.g. There is a knot in the trunk at X,Y 560,180 (from top left) and the bark has noticably less texture in the processed version.) I didn't convert the RAW version - I left it alone and just played with the .jpeg (I shoot RAW & jpeg @ 1/2.7 - amazing how many images you can stuff into a 4 gig compact flash card). Now that you mention it, I will convert the RAW file and see what happens. Plus, I'm working with a new program (to me - I have a very old version of Photoshop) - Photoshop CS4 Extended and I may have screwed up the conversion somehow. while I'm nitpicking, whats with the BMP file? Odd choice of format for either storage and processing (I tend to prefer TIFF for its lossless compression and good portability accross the rather dated tools I use) or internet use (non windows based browsers will probably choke on it). If you want a lossless compressable format that is web friendly, why not use PNG? All good points - thank you. I'm just experimenting - rediscovering my "muse" if you will - having some fun and posting something that isn't post-election liberal angst about Sarah Palin. :) Thanks again - your comments were a great help. -- "An idealist is one who, on noticing that a rose smells better than a cabbage, concludes that it will also make better soup." H.L. Mencken |
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I liked it, as RG mentioned, nice tonaity and range, no blow highlights or lost low ligts. Not only that but if you look in the upper left corner you can see Sasquatch. That's not Sasquatch. That's Spiny Norman. |
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All good points - thank you. I'm just experimenting - rediscovering my "muse" if you will - I always enjoy experimenting, trying to capture a mood. Since it was a cloudy day yesterday, my wife wanted to go to an old cometary in Atlanta, Oakwood Cometary. I took a photo of a the reflection of a statue in a fountain. I played with two methods of converting to Black and White. I was trying to capture the moods of kids lost in the woods being surrounded by the evil forest. Let me know if you have a preference or if you think they both suck equally as bad. Option A http://i339.photobucket.com/albums/n...tWoodsSoft.jpg Option B http://i339.photobucket.com/albums/n.../LostWoods.jpg |
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"Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq." wrote in message ... Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: All good points - thank you. I'm just experimenting - rediscovering my "muse" if you will - I always enjoy experimenting, trying to capture a mood. Since it was a cloudy day yesterday, my wife wanted to go to an old cometary in Atlanta, Oakwood Cometary. I took a photo of a the reflection of a statue in a fountain. I played with two methods of converting to Black and White. I was trying to capture the moods of kids lost in the woods being surrounded by the evil forest. Let me know if you have a preference or if you think they both suck equally as bad. Option A http://i339.photobucket.com/albums/n...tWoodsSoft.jpg Option B http://i339.photobucket.com/albums/n.../LostWoods.jpg Option B. Eisboch |
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On Dec 7, 10:12*am, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote: Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: All good points - thank you. I'm just experimenting - rediscovering my "muse" if you will - I always enjoy experimenting, trying to capture a mood. *Since it was a cloudy day yesterday, my wife wanted to go to an old cometary in Atlanta, Oakwood Cometary. I took a photo of a the reflection of a statue in a fountain. *I played with two methods of converting to Black and White. *I was trying to capture the moods of kids lost in the woods being surrounded by the evil forest. Let me know if you have a preference or if you think they both suck equally as bad. Option Ahttp://i339.photobucket.com/albums/n451/AtlantaShots/LostWoodsSoft.jpg Option Bhttp://i339.photobucket.com/albums/n451/AtlantaShots/LostWoods.jpg Either. honestly, i can't tell much difference. The sharpness of the statue is clear yet really dark on the features. and I'm not sure what to make of the tree limbs in the background. fuzzy doesn't describe them. I won't say they suck, because you don't know what "suck" is until you've seen my work. |
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Eisboch wrote:
"Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq." wrote in message ... Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: All good points - thank you. I'm just experimenting - rediscovering my "muse" if you will - I always enjoy experimenting, trying to capture a mood. Since it was a cloudy day yesterday, my wife wanted to go to an old cometary in Atlanta, Oakwood Cometary. I took a photo of a the reflection of a statue in a fountain. I played with two methods of converting to Black and White. I was trying to capture the moods of kids lost in the woods being surrounded by the evil forest. Let me know if you have a preference or if you think they both suck equally as bad. Option A http://i339.photobucket.com/albums/n...tWoodsSoft.jpg Option B http://i339.photobucket.com/albums/n.../LostWoods.jpg Option B. Eisboch That is the same one I thought sucked less than the other one. |
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On Sun, 07 Dec 2008 11:12:41 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote: Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: All good points - thank you. I'm just experimenting - rediscovering my "muse" if you will - I always enjoy experimenting, trying to capture a mood. Since it was a cloudy day yesterday, my wife wanted to go to an old cometary in Atlanta, Oakwood Cometary. I took a photo of a the reflection of a statue in a fountain. I played with two methods of converting to Black and White. I was trying to capture the moods of kids lost in the woods being surrounded by the evil forest. Let me know if you have a preference or if you think they both suck equally as bad. Option A http://i339.photobucket.com/albums/n...tWoodsSoft.jpg Option B http://i339.photobucket.com/albums/n.../LostWoods.jpg When I first read your post, I did so quickly and missed the fact that they were reflections. So I viewed them thinking that you had crouched in front of the statue and taken the picture looking up at the kids. My thought was, "Damn, neither of those are in focus worth a ****. He must have gotten some drops of water on his lens." But, in comparing the two side by side, I liked the sharper picture better (Option B). If I were to give any advice, it would be to show a little of the border of the fountain, just so the context will be obvious. Otherwise, they look like a photo taken looking up at the statue with poor focus, or water on the lens. Amateurish comment, I suppose, but there you go. -- John H. |
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