e=mc2: 103 years later, Einstein's proven right
 

"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
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On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 13:52:11 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 06:35:43 -0500, Boater
wrote:

In other words, energy and mass are equivalent, as Einstein proposed in
his Special Theory of Relativity in 1905.

Which is true as far as it goes. In this universe anyway.

There have been recent experiments that prove we may live in more than
one universe and up to as many as six at the same time.

Einstein never accounted for those rules. :)

I think Quantum Mechanics says there are an infinite number of universes.

The fact that Einstein General Theory of Relativity does not agree with
QM's is the reason physicists are looking for a Unified theory that
would work on the grand scale and the atomic scale.

I know the answer, but i am not telling.

Newtonian physics exists in a two dimensional world - what Einstein
did was extend Newtonian physics into three dimensions the third being
time. In the Newtonian world, the laws were considered the same at
any reference point in terms of time - it takes X time for Object A to
travel to Object B or to put it another way, time is the same for all
observers of an event no matter at which end of the observational
platform one is observing from. Einstein proved that in fact,
observers will and can experience time dilation depending on where the
event is being observed from (think Doppler Shift) and a couple of
other interesting effects such as length contraction and simultaneous
relatively.

Einstein didn't account for the possibility that instead of living in
a three dimensional universe, we may actually live in a
muti-dimensional universe. There have been several published
experiments in which particles have been in two places at the same
time and one of the more interesting ones, which has been duplicated,
the particle appeared at it's destination before it left it's origin
point.

This would seem to indicate that there are more universes operating
under more than Newtonian/Einsteinian laws than thought.

Next time you want to ponder the universe, ponder this. Wormholes are
theoritically possible -given enough power that is. It's pretty much
strictly an engineering problem, not a problem with the theory.

So, let's say you want to establish a worm hole from your living room
to a high plateau on Omicron Persei 8 - a distance of one million
light years.

Now think about this - once the worm hole is established and you look
through it, are you looking at the future or at the past?

I'll wait. :)


BTW, speaking Newton, how did the golf ball/base ball bat experiment go?
8)

e=mc2: 103 years later, Einstein's proven right
 

On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 17:01:18 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:


"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
message ...
On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 13:52:11 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 06:35:43 -0500, Boater
wrote:

In other words, energy and mass are equivalent, as Einstein proposed in
his Special Theory of Relativity in 1905.

Which is true as far as it goes. In this universe anyway.

There have been recent experiments that prove we may live in more than
one universe and up to as many as six at the same time.

Einstein never accounted for those rules. :)

I think Quantum Mechanics says there are an infinite number of universes.

The fact that Einstein General Theory of Relativity does not agree with
QM's is the reason physicists are looking for a Unified theory that
would work on the grand scale and the atomic scale.

I know the answer, but i am not telling.

Newtonian physics exists in a two dimensional world - what Einstein
did was extend Newtonian physics into three dimensions the third being
time. In the Newtonian world, the laws were considered the same at
any reference point in terms of time - it takes X time for Object A to
travel to Object B or to put it another way, time is the same for all
observers of an event no matter at which end of the observational
platform one is observing from. Einstein proved that in fact,
observers will and can experience time dilation depending on where the
event is being observed from (think Doppler Shift) and a couple of
other interesting effects such as length contraction and simultaneous
relatively.

Einstein didn't account for the possibility that instead of living in
a three dimensional universe, we may actually live in a
muti-dimensional universe. There have been several published
experiments in which particles have been in two places at the same
time and one of the more interesting ones, which has been duplicated,
the particle appeared at it's destination before it left it's origin
point.

This would seem to indicate that there are more universes operating
under more than Newtonian/Einsteinian laws than thought.

Next time you want to ponder the universe, ponder this. Wormholes are
theoritically possible -given enough power that is. It's pretty much
strictly an engineering problem, not a problem with the theory.

So, let's say you want to establish a worm hole from your living room
to a high plateau on Omicron Persei 8 - a distance of one million
light years.

Now think about this - once the worm hole is established and you look
through it, are you looking at the future or at the past?

I'll wait. :)

BTW, speaking Newton, how did the golf ball/base ball bat experiment go?
8)

Well, as long as you asked, it went quite well.

I proved conclusively that I can hit a golf ball further wtih a
baseball bat than I can with a golf club.

e=mc2: 103 years later, Einstein's proven right
 

Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 15:59:35 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 13:52:11 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 06:35:43 -0500, Boater
wrote:

In other words, energy and mass are equivalent, as Einstein proposed in
his Special Theory of Relativity in 1905.
Which is true as far as it goes. In this universe anyway.

There have been recent experiments that prove we may live in more than
one universe and up to as many as six at the same time.

Einstein never accounted for those rules. :)
I think Quantum Mechanics says there are an infinite number of universes.

The fact that Einstein General Theory of Relativity does not agree with
QM's is the reason physicists are looking for a Unified theory that
would work on the grand scale and the atomic scale.

I know the answer, but i am not telling.
Newtonian physics exists in a two dimensional world - what Einstein
did was extend Newtonian physics into three dimensions the third being
time. In the Newtonian world, the laws were considered the same at
any reference point in terms of time - it takes X time for Object A to
travel to Object B or to put it another way, time is the same for all
observers of an event no matter at which end of the observational
platform one is observing from. Einstein proved that in fact,
observers will and can experience time dilation depending on where the
event is being observed from (think Doppler Shift) and a couple of
other interesting effects such as length contraction and simultaneous
relatively.

Einstein didn't account for the possibility that instead of living in
a three dimensional universe, we may actually live in a
muti-dimensional universe. There have been several published
experiments in which particles have been in two places at the same
time and one of the more interesting ones, which has been duplicated,
the particle appeared at it's destination before it left it's origin
point.

This would seem to indicate that there are more universes operating
under more than Newtonian/Einsteinian laws than thought.

Next time you want to ponder the universe, ponder this. Wormholes are
theoritically possible -given enough power that is. It's pretty much
strictly an engineering problem, not a problem with the theory.

So, let's say you want to establish a worm hole from your living room
to a high plateau on Omicron Persei 8 - a distance of one million
light years.

Now think about this - once the worm hole is established and you look
through it, are you looking at the future or at the past?

I'll wait. :)
I think you are trying to fool me. ;)

If you have bent the time/space continuum to form the wormhole, you
would be looking at the present.

You'd think so wouldn't you?

Guess again. :)

Ok, I keep trying to think this through, and I keep coming up with is I
am married to my Grandmother.

e=mc2: 103 years later, Einstein's proven right
 

On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 19:03:34 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 15:59:35 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 13:52:11 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 06:35:43 -0500, Boater
wrote:

In other words, energy and mass are equivalent, as Einstein proposed in
his Special Theory of Relativity in 1905.
Which is true as far as it goes. In this universe anyway.

There have been recent experiments that prove we may live in more than
one universe and up to as many as six at the same time.

Einstein never accounted for those rules. :)
I think Quantum Mechanics says there are an infinite number of universes.

The fact that Einstein General Theory of Relativity does not agree with
QM's is the reason physicists are looking for a Unified theory that
would work on the grand scale and the atomic scale.

I know the answer, but i am not telling.
Newtonian physics exists in a two dimensional world - what Einstein
did was extend Newtonian physics into three dimensions the third being
time. In the Newtonian world, the laws were considered the same at
any reference point in terms of time - it takes X time for Object A to
travel to Object B or to put it another way, time is the same for all
observers of an event no matter at which end of the observational
platform one is observing from. Einstein proved that in fact,
observers will and can experience time dilation depending on where the
event is being observed from (think Doppler Shift) and a couple of
other interesting effects such as length contraction and simultaneous
relatively.

Einstein didn't account for the possibility that instead of living in
a three dimensional universe, we may actually live in a
muti-dimensional universe. There have been several published
experiments in which particles have been in two places at the same
time and one of the more interesting ones, which has been duplicated,
the particle appeared at it's destination before it left it's origin
point.

This would seem to indicate that there are more universes operating
under more than Newtonian/Einsteinian laws than thought.

Next time you want to ponder the universe, ponder this. Wormholes are
theoritically possible -given enough power that is. It's pretty much
strictly an engineering problem, not a problem with the theory.

So, let's say you want to establish a worm hole from your living room
to a high plateau on Omicron Persei 8 - a distance of one million
light years.

Now think about this - once the worm hole is established and you look
through it, are you looking at the future or at the past?

I'll wait. :)
I think you are trying to fool me. ;)

If you have bent the time/space continuum to form the wormhole, you
would be looking at the present.

You'd think so wouldn't you?

Guess again. :)

Ok, I keep trying to think this through, and I keep coming up with is I
am married to my Grandmother.

Well, that is one possibility - unlikely, but a possibility.

Here - I'll add to your confusion.

There are two types of theoritical wormholes - Lorentzian wormholes
and Einstein-Rosen bridges. The later is an unstable wormhole and
would collapse the instant it was formed.

Lorentzian wormholes are stable and theoritically possible. When
formed by exotic matter you get a type of wormhole developed by Mike
Morris for his PhD at Cal Tech. He and his supervisor, Kip Thorne
developed a theory (called, as you would expect) a Morris-Thorne
wormhole which are traversable (in theory) and there are theories
which propose traversable Lorentzian wormholes without the exotic
matter element.

What all these theories maintain in common is that they maintain the
rules of special relatively. While they allow faster than light
travel, the travel is not necessarily faster than light. (Puzzle that
one through - it does make sense when you parse the central idea.)

And here's another interesting feature of the Lorentzian wormhole -
while the individual traversing the wormhole would be traveling at
lower than the speed of light, light still travels at the same speed
meaning that any photon entering at the same time as the traveler
would traverse the wormhole and arrive considerably earlier.

Which begs the original question - are you seeing the future or the
past?

Side note: Just to really confuse things, if you accellerate one end
of the wormhole and rotate it, you can actually prove that time
travel is possible.

But I digress.

e=mc2: 103 years later, Einstein's proven right
 

"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
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On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 17:01:18 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:


"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
message ...
On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 13:52:11 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 06:35:43 -0500, Boater
wrote:

In other words, energy and mass are equivalent, as Einstein proposed
in
his Special Theory of Relativity in 1905.

Which is true as far as it goes. In this universe anyway.

There have been recent experiments that prove we may live in more than
one universe and up to as many as six at the same time.

Einstein never accounted for those rules. :)

I think Quantum Mechanics says there are an infinite number of
universes.

The fact that Einstein General Theory of Relativity does not agree with
QM's is the reason physicists are looking for a Unified theory that
would work on the grand scale and the atomic scale.

I know the answer, but i am not telling.

Newtonian physics exists in a two dimensional world - what Einstein
did was extend Newtonian physics into three dimensions the third being
time. In the Newtonian world, the laws were considered the same at
any reference point in terms of time - it takes X time for Object A to
travel to Object B or to put it another way, time is the same for all
observers of an event no matter at which end of the observational
platform one is observing from. Einstein proved that in fact,
observers will and can experience time dilation depending on where the
event is being observed from (think Doppler Shift) and a couple of
other interesting effects such as length contraction and simultaneous
relatively.

Einstein didn't account for the possibility that instead of living in
a three dimensional universe, we may actually live in a
muti-dimensional universe. There have been several published
experiments in which particles have been in two places at the same
time and one of the more interesting ones, which has been duplicated,
the particle appeared at it's destination before it left it's origin
point.

This would seem to indicate that there are more universes operating
under more than Newtonian/Einsteinian laws than thought.

Next time you want to ponder the universe, ponder this. Wormholes are
theoritically possible -given enough power that is. It's pretty much
strictly an engineering problem, not a problem with the theory.

So, let's say you want to establish a worm hole from your living room
to a high plateau on Omicron Persei 8 - a distance of one million
light years.

Now think about this - once the worm hole is established and you look
through it, are you looking at the future or at the past?

I'll wait. :)

BTW, speaking Newton, how did the golf ball/base ball bat experiment go?
8)

Well, as long as you asked, it went quite well.

I proved conclusively that I can hit a golf ball further wtih a
baseball bat than I can with a golf club.

Film at 11:00?

e=mc2: 103 years later, Einstein's proven right
 

On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 20:42:45 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:


"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
message ...
On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 17:01:18 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:


"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
message ...
On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 13:52:11 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 06:35:43 -0500, Boater
wrote:

In other words, energy and mass are equivalent, as Einstein proposed
in
his Special Theory of Relativity in 1905.

Which is true as far as it goes. In this universe anyway.

There have been recent experiments that prove we may live in more than
one universe and up to as many as six at the same time.

Einstein never accounted for those rules. :)

I think Quantum Mechanics says there are an infinite number of
universes.

The fact that Einstein General Theory of Relativity does not agree with
QM's is the reason physicists are looking for a Unified theory that
would work on the grand scale and the atomic scale.

I know the answer, but i am not telling.

Newtonian physics exists in a two dimensional world - what Einstein
did was extend Newtonian physics into three dimensions the third being
time. In the Newtonian world, the laws were considered the same at
any reference point in terms of time - it takes X time for Object A to
travel to Object B or to put it another way, time is the same for all
observers of an event no matter at which end of the observational
platform one is observing from. Einstein proved that in fact,
observers will and can experience time dilation depending on where the
event is being observed from (think Doppler Shift) and a couple of
other interesting effects such as length contraction and simultaneous
relatively.

Einstein didn't account for the possibility that instead of living in
a three dimensional universe, we may actually live in a
muti-dimensional universe. There have been several published
experiments in which particles have been in two places at the same
time and one of the more interesting ones, which has been duplicated,
the particle appeared at it's destination before it left it's origin
point.

This would seem to indicate that there are more universes operating
under more than Newtonian/Einsteinian laws than thought.

Next time you want to ponder the universe, ponder this. Wormholes are
theoritically possible -given enough power that is. It's pretty much
strictly an engineering problem, not a problem with the theory.

So, let's say you want to establish a worm hole from your living room
to a high plateau on Omicron Persei 8 - a distance of one million
light years.

Now think about this - once the worm hole is established and you look
through it, are you looking at the future or at the past?

I'll wait. :)

BTW, speaking Newton, how did the golf ball/base ball bat experiment go?
8)

Well, as long as you asked, it went quite well.

I proved conclusively that I can hit a golf ball further wtih a
baseball bat than I can with a golf club.

Film at 11:00?

You missed the concept- I can do it.

That means that I can't hit a golf ball with a golf club.

I can hit a golf ball with a baseball bat.

Thus, I can hit a golf ball further with a bat than a club. :)

e=mc2: 103 years later, Einstein's proven right
 

"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
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On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 20:42:45 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:


"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
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On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 17:01:18 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:


"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
message ...
On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 13:52:11 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 06:35:43 -0500, Boater
wrote:

In other words, energy and mass are equivalent, as Einstein
proposed
in
his Special Theory of Relativity in 1905.

Which is true as far as it goes. In this universe anyway.

There have been recent experiments that prove we may live in more
than
one universe and up to as many as six at the same time.

Einstein never accounted for those rules. :)

I think Quantum Mechanics says there are an infinite number of
universes.

The fact that Einstein General Theory of Relativity does not agree
with
QM's is the reason physicists are looking for a Unified theory that
would work on the grand scale and the atomic scale.

I know the answer, but i am not telling.

Newtonian physics exists in a two dimensional world - what Einstein
did was extend Newtonian physics into three dimensions the third being
time. In the Newtonian world, the laws were considered the same at
any reference point in terms of time - it takes X time for Object A to
travel to Object B or to put it another way, time is the same for all
observers of an event no matter at which end of the observational
platform one is observing from. Einstein proved that in fact,
observers will and can experience time dilation depending on where the
event is being observed from (think Doppler Shift) and a couple of
other interesting effects such as length contraction and simultaneous
relatively.

Einstein didn't account for the possibility that instead of living in
a three dimensional universe, we may actually live in a
muti-dimensional universe. There have been several published
experiments in which particles have been in two places at the same
time and one of the more interesting ones, which has been duplicated,
the particle appeared at it's destination before it left it's origin
point.

This would seem to indicate that there are more universes operating
under more than Newtonian/Einsteinian laws than thought.

Next time you want to ponder the universe, ponder this. Wormholes are
theoritically possible -given enough power that is. It's pretty much
strictly an engineering problem, not a problem with the theory.

So, let's say you want to establish a worm hole from your living room
to a high plateau on Omicron Persei 8 - a distance of one million
light years.

Now think about this - once the worm hole is established and you look
through it, are you looking at the future or at the past?

I'll wait. :)

BTW, speaking Newton, how did the golf ball/base ball bat experiment go?
8)

Well, as long as you asked, it went quite well.

I proved conclusively that I can hit a golf ball further wtih a
baseball bat than I can with a golf club.

Film at 11:00?

You missed the concept- I can do it.

That means that I can't hit a golf ball with a golf club.

I can hit a golf ball with a baseball bat.

Thus, I can hit a golf ball further with a bat than a club. :)

Oh I got the concept alright, just interested in the film.

e=mc2: 103 years later, Einstein's proven right
 

On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 17:48:42 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 17:01:18 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:


"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
message ...
On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 13:52:11 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 06:35:43 -0500, Boater
wrote:

In other words, energy and mass are equivalent, as Einstein proposed in
his Special Theory of Relativity in 1905.

Which is true as far as it goes. In this universe anyway.

There have been recent experiments that prove we may live in more than
one universe and up to as many as six at the same time.

Einstein never accounted for those rules. :)

I think Quantum Mechanics says there are an infinite number of universes.

The fact that Einstein General Theory of Relativity does not agree with
QM's is the reason physicists are looking for a Unified theory that
would work on the grand scale and the atomic scale.

I know the answer, but i am not telling.

Newtonian physics exists in a two dimensional world - what Einstein
did was extend Newtonian physics into three dimensions the third being
time. In the Newtonian world, the laws were considered the same at
any reference point in terms of time - it takes X time for Object A to
travel to Object B or to put it another way, time is the same for all
observers of an event no matter at which end of the observational
platform one is observing from. Einstein proved that in fact,
observers will and can experience time dilation depending on where the
event is being observed from (think Doppler Shift) and a couple of
other interesting effects such as length contraction and simultaneous
relatively.

Einstein didn't account for the possibility that instead of living in
a three dimensional universe, we may actually live in a
muti-dimensional universe. There have been several published
experiments in which particles have been in two places at the same
time and one of the more interesting ones, which has been duplicated,
the particle appeared at it's destination before it left it's origin
point.

This would seem to indicate that there are more universes operating
under more than Newtonian/Einsteinian laws than thought.

Next time you want to ponder the universe, ponder this. Wormholes are
theoritically possible -given enough power that is. It's pretty much
strictly an engineering problem, not a problem with the theory.

So, let's say you want to establish a worm hole from your living room
to a high plateau on Omicron Persei 8 - a distance of one million
light years.

Now think about this - once the worm hole is established and you look
through it, are you looking at the future or at the past?

I'll wait. :)

BTW, speaking Newton, how did the golf ball/base ball bat experiment go?
8)

Well, as long as you asked, it went quite well.

I proved conclusively that I can hit a golf ball further wtih a
baseball bat than I can with a golf club.

LOL! Most of the time I could also.
--
A Harry Krause truism:

"It's not a *baby* kicking, beautiful bride, it's just a fetus!"

e=mc2: 103 years later, Einstein's proven right
 

On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 06:58:23 -0800 (PST), wrote:

Harry, I understand more about Einstein's theories than you ever will.
All you did is google and paste. Any little kid can do that.

Einstein was a pretty good writer, and his popular audience book
explaining them is about as good as any.

Casady

e=mc2: 103 years later, Einstein's proven right
 

On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 15:40:27 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:


Newtonian physics exists in a two dimensional world

That's just plain nuts.

Casady