"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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On Sat, 22 Nov 2008 08:01:02 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch
wrote:

I have read tha Madison is very liberal yet they must be doing
something right. Please allow me a comparison.
Madison: State capitol, large university, educated population, some
high tech industries, job opportunity, nice old buildings.
Tallahassee: State capitol, 2 large universities, educated
population, NO high tech industries, very few job opportunities, all
the old buildings have been razed.
Now, I am a 5 generation native N. Florida redneck so I am inclined to
defend my culture but even I see a problem here.
Looking over the UW campus, I saw a 12 story bldg dedicated to
licensing technologies developed at UW, FSU might have a cubicle
dedicated to the same.

I believe it is the cold climate. Bad weather keeps people in doors
and they are more industrious.


When I took a sabbatical years ago with the family in a motorhome, we stayed
at Turtle Creek Campground near Madison. they even stay inside in nice
weather. All the bug zappers by the campers and only thing they are zapping
are lightning bugs, and nobody but us is outside.

On Nov 22, 2:46 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
"Wayne.B" wrote in message

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On Sat, 22 Nov 2008 08:01:02 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch
wrote:

I have read tha Madison is very liberal yet they must be doing
something right. Please allow me a comparison.
Madison: State capitol, large university, educated population, some
high tech industries, job opportunity, nice old buildings.
Tallahassee: State capitol, 2 large universities, educated
population, NO high tech industries, very few job opportunities, all
the old buildings have been razed.
Now, I am a 5 generation native N. Florida redneck so I am inclined to
defend my culture but even I see a problem here.
Looking over the UW campus, I saw a 12 story bldg dedicated to
licensing technologies developed at UW, FSU might have a cubicle
dedicated to the same.

I believe it is the cold climate. Bad weather keeps people in doors
and they are more industrious.

When I took a sabbatical years ago with the family in a motorhome, we stayed
at Turtle Creek Campground near Madison. they even stay inside in nice
weather. All the bug zappers by the campers and only thing they are zapping
are lightning bugs, and nobody but us is outside.

OTOH, yankees are usually kinda dull people, sure they are industrious
and they do well but "YAWN". Southerners have real craziness in their
culture and it sure makes life interesting. Compare yank writers and
southern writers and you get the impression the yanks rarely venture
beyond their comfort zone. Sure stereotypes make southerners look like
uneducated morons but would anybody bother watching a show about
hijinks of people in Wisconsin like they do "Dukes of Hazzard".

On Sat, 22 Nov 2008 15:49:30 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch
wrote:

On Nov 22, 2:46 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
"Wayne.B" wrote in message

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On Sat, 22 Nov 2008 08:01:02 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch
wrote:

I have read tha Madison is very liberal yet they must be doing
something right. Please allow me a comparison.
Madison: State capitol, large university, educated population, some
high tech industries, job opportunity, nice old buildings.
Tallahassee: State capitol, 2 large universities, educated
population, NO high tech industries, very few job opportunities, all
the old buildings have been razed.
Now, I am a 5 generation native N. Florida redneck so I am inclined to
defend my culture but even I see a problem here.
Looking over the UW campus, I saw a 12 story bldg dedicated to
licensing technologies developed at UW, FSU might have a cubicle
dedicated to the same.

I believe it is the cold climate. Bad weather keeps people in doors
and they are more industrious.

When I took a sabbatical years ago with the family in a motorhome, we stayed
at Turtle Creek Campground near Madison. they even stay inside in nice
weather. All the bug zappers by the campers and only thing they are zapping
are lightning bugs, and nobody but us is outside.

OTOH, yankees are usually kinda dull people, sure they are industrious
and they do well but "YAWN". Southerners have real craziness in their
culture and it sure makes life interesting. Compare yank writers and
southern writers and you get the impression the yanks rarely venture
beyond their comfort zone. Sure stereotypes make southerners look like
uneducated morons but would anybody bother watching a show about
hijinks of people in Wisconsin like they do "Dukes of Hazzard".

What the hell is "Dukes of Hazzard?"
Wait......Bach? Catherine?

--Vic

On Nov 22, 6:55 pm, Vic Smith wrote:
On Sat, 22 Nov 2008 15:49:30 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch



wrote:
On Nov 22, 2:46 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
"Wayne.B" wrote in message

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On Sat, 22 Nov 2008 08:01:02 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch
wrote:

I have read tha Madison is very liberal yet they must be doing
something right. Please allow me a comparison.
Madison: State capitol, large university, educated population, some
high tech industries, job opportunity, nice old buildings.
Tallahassee: State capitol, 2 large universities, educated
population, NO high tech industries, very few job opportunities, all
the old buildings have been razed.
Now, I am a 5 generation native N. Florida redneck so I am inclined to
defend my culture but even I see a problem here.
Looking over the UW campus, I saw a 12 story bldg dedicated to
licensing technologies developed at UW, FSU might have a cubicle
dedicated to the same.

I believe it is the cold climate. Bad weather keeps people in doors
and they are more industrious.

When I took a sabbatical years ago with the family in a motorhome, we stayed
at Turtle Creek Campground near Madison. they even stay inside in nice
weather. All the bug zappers by the campers and only thing they are zapping
are lightning bugs, and nobody but us is outside.

OTOH, yankees are usually kinda dull people, sure they are industrious
and they do well but "YAWN". Southerners have real craziness in their
culture and it sure makes life interesting. Compare yank writers and
southern writers and you get the impression the yanks rarely venture
beyond their comfort zone. Sure stereotypes make southerners look like
uneducated morons but would anybody bother watching a show about
hijinks of people in Wisconsin like they do "Dukes of Hazzard".

What the hell is "Dukes of Hazzard?"
Wait......Bach? Catherine?

--Vic

I really only watched the show once and I bet Bach and the rest of
those fools on that show never got within 1000 miles of Georgia.

OK, wait, I take back my remark about nobody watching a show about
Wisconsin life. Isnt "That 70s Show" set in Wisconsin?

Frogwatch wrote:
On Nov 22, 6:55 pm, Vic Smith wrote:
On Sat, 22 Nov 2008 15:49:30 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch



wrote:
On Nov 22, 2:46 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 22 Nov 2008 08:01:02 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch
wrote:
I have read tha Madison is very liberal yet they must be doing
something right. Please allow me a comparison.
Madison: State capitol, large university, educated population, some
high tech industries, job opportunity, nice old buildings.
Tallahassee: State capitol, 2 large universities, educated
population, NO high tech industries, very few job opportunities, all
the old buildings have been razed.
Now, I am a 5 generation native N. Florida redneck so I am inclined to
defend my culture but even I see a problem here.
Looking over the UW campus, I saw a 12 story bldg dedicated to
licensing technologies developed at UW, FSU might have a cubicle
dedicated to the same.
I believe it is the cold climate. Bad weather keeps people in doors
and they are more industrious.
When I took a sabbatical years ago with the family in a motorhome, we stayed
at Turtle Creek Campground near Madison. they even stay inside in nice
weather. All the bug zappers by the campers and only thing they are zapping
are lightning bugs, and nobody but us is outside.
OTOH, yankees are usually kinda dull people, sure they are industrious
and they do well but "YAWN". Southerners have real craziness in their
culture and it sure makes life interesting. Compare yank writers and
southern writers and you get the impression the yanks rarely venture
beyond their comfort zone. Sure stereotypes make southerners look like
uneducated morons but would anybody bother watching a show about
hijinks of people in Wisconsin like they do "Dukes of Hazzard".
What the hell is "Dukes of Hazzard?"
Wait......Bach? Catherine?

--Vic

I really only watched the show once and I bet Bach and the rest of
those fools on that show never got within 1000 miles of Georgia.

Hard to blame them for that. The few times I was in Georgia other than
on the Atlantic coastline I didn't like it. But Savannah and the Golden
Isles I like. These days, if I even have to fly into Atlanta to get
somewhere else, I reroute so I can skip that airport entirely.

I like parts of Florida and southern Louisiana and the coast of Georgia.
The rest of the south...I don't like at all. When we drive I-95, I try
to avoid stopping anywhere in South Carolina for anything.

On Sat, 22 Nov 2008 22:05:11 -0500, Boater
wrote:

Frogwatch wrote:
On Nov 22, 6:55 pm, Vic Smith wrote:
On Sat, 22 Nov 2008 15:49:30 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch



wrote:
On Nov 22, 2:46 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 22 Nov 2008 08:01:02 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch
wrote:
I have read tha Madison is very liberal yet they must be doing
something right. Please allow me a comparison.
Madison: State capitol, large university, educated population, some
high tech industries, job opportunity, nice old buildings.
Tallahassee: State capitol, 2 large universities, educated
population, NO high tech industries, very few job opportunities, all
the old buildings have been razed.
Now, I am a 5 generation native N. Florida redneck so I am inclined to
defend my culture but even I see a problem here.
Looking over the UW campus, I saw a 12 story bldg dedicated to
licensing technologies developed at UW, FSU might have a cubicle
dedicated to the same.
I believe it is the cold climate. Bad weather keeps people in doors
and they are more industrious.
When I took a sabbatical years ago with the family in a motorhome, we stayed
at Turtle Creek Campground near Madison. they even stay inside in nice
weather. All the bug zappers by the campers and only thing they are zapping
are lightning bugs, and nobody but us is outside.
OTOH, yankees are usually kinda dull people, sure they are industrious
and they do well but "YAWN". Southerners have real craziness in their
culture and it sure makes life interesting. Compare yank writers and
southern writers and you get the impression the yanks rarely venture
beyond their comfort zone. Sure stereotypes make southerners look like
uneducated morons but would anybody bother watching a show about
hijinks of people in Wisconsin like they do "Dukes of Hazzard".
What the hell is "Dukes of Hazzard?"
Wait......Bach? Catherine?

--Vic

I really only watched the show once and I bet Bach and the rest of
those fools on that show never got within 1000 miles of Georgia.

Hard to blame them for that. The few times I was in Georgia other than
on the Atlantic coastline I didn't like it. But Savannah and the Golden
Isles I like. These days, if I even have to fly into Atlanta to get
somewhere else, I reroute so I can skip that airport entirely.

I like parts of Florida and southern Louisiana and the coast of Georgia.
The rest of the south...I don't like at all. When we drive I-95, I try
to avoid stopping anywhere in South Carolina for anything.

All that probably makes some here pretty happy (-:

--Vic

On Nov 22, 10:05 pm, Boater wrote:
Frogwatch wrote:
On Nov 22, 6:55 pm, Vic Smith wrote:
On Sat, 22 Nov 2008 15:49:30 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch

wrote:
On Nov 22, 2:46 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
"Wayne.B" wrote in message
m...
On Sat, 22 Nov 2008 08:01:02 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch
wrote:
I have read tha Madison is very liberal yet they must be doing
something right. Please allow me a comparison.
Madison: State capitol, large university, educated population, some
high tech industries, job opportunity, nice old buildings.
Tallahassee: State capitol, 2 large universities, educated
population, NO high tech industries, very few job opportunities, all
the old buildings have been razed.
Now, I am a 5 generation native N. Florida redneck so I am inclined to
defend my culture but even I see a problem here.
Looking over the UW campus, I saw a 12 story bldg dedicated to
licensing technologies developed at UW, FSU might have a cubicle
dedicated to the same.
I believe it is the cold climate. Bad weather keeps people in doors
and they are more industrious.
When I took a sabbatical years ago with the family in a motorhome, we stayed
at Turtle Creek Campground near Madison. they even stay inside in nice
weather. All the bug zappers by the campers and only thing they are zapping
are lightning bugs, and nobody but us is outside.
OTOH, yankees are usually kinda dull people, sure they are industrious
and they do well but "YAWN". Southerners have real craziness in their
culture and it sure makes life interesting. Compare yank writers and
southern writers and you get the impression the yanks rarely venture
beyond their comfort zone. Sure stereotypes make southerners look like
uneducated morons but would anybody bother watching a show about
hijinks of people in Wisconsin like they do "Dukes of Hazzard".
What the hell is "Dukes of Hazzard?"
Wait......Bach? Catherine?

--Vic

I really only watched the show once and I bet Bach and the rest of
those fools on that show never got within 1000 miles of Georgia.

Hard to blame them for that. The few times I was in Georgia other than
on the Atlantic coastline I didn't like it. But Savannah and the Golden
Isles I like. These days, if I even have to fly into Atlanta to get
somewhere else, I reroute so I can skip that airport entirely.

I like parts of Florida and southern Louisiana and the coast of Georgia.
The rest of the south...I don't like at all. When we drive I-95, I try
to avoid stopping anywhere in South Carolina for anything.

Good lord, yur ability to handle any culture except your own is
seriously limited, talk about the "Ugly American", you epitomize it.
What a doofus.

Frogwatch wrote:
On Nov 22, 10:05 pm, Boater wrote:
Frogwatch wrote:
On Nov 22, 6:55 pm, Vic Smith wrote:
On Sat, 22 Nov 2008 15:49:30 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch
wrote:
On Nov 22, 2:46 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 22 Nov 2008 08:01:02 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch
wrote:
I have read tha Madison is very liberal yet they must be doing
something right. Please allow me a comparison.
Madison: State capitol, large university, educated population, some
high tech industries, job opportunity, nice old buildings.
Tallahassee: State capitol, 2 large universities, educated
population, NO high tech industries, very few job opportunities, all
the old buildings have been razed.
Now, I am a 5 generation native N. Florida redneck so I am inclined to
defend my culture but even I see a problem here.
Looking over the UW campus, I saw a 12 story bldg dedicated to
licensing technologies developed at UW, FSU might have a cubicle
dedicated to the same.
I believe it is the cold climate. Bad weather keeps people in doors
and they are more industrious.
When I took a sabbatical years ago with the family in a motorhome, we stayed
at Turtle Creek Campground near Madison. they even stay inside in nice
weather. All the bug zappers by the campers and only thing they are zapping
are lightning bugs, and nobody but us is outside.
OTOH, yankees are usually kinda dull people, sure they are industrious
and they do well but "YAWN". Southerners have real craziness in their
culture and it sure makes life interesting. Compare yank writers and
southern writers and you get the impression the yanks rarely venture
beyond their comfort zone. Sure stereotypes make southerners look like
uneducated morons but would anybody bother watching a show about
hijinks of people in Wisconsin like they do "Dukes of Hazzard".
What the hell is "Dukes of Hazzard?"
Wait......Bach? Catherine?
--Vic
I really only watched the show once and I bet Bach and the rest of
those fools on that show never got within 1000 miles of Georgia.
Hard to blame them for that. The few times I was in Georgia other than
on the Atlantic coastline I didn't like it. But Savannah and the Golden
Isles I like. These days, if I even have to fly into Atlanta to get
somewhere else, I reroute so I can skip that airport entirely.

I like parts of Florida and southern Louisiana and the coast of Georgia.
The rest of the south...I don't like at all. When we drive I-95, I try
to avoid stopping anywhere in South Carolina for anything.

Good lord, yur ability to handle any culture except your own is
seriously limited, talk about the "Ugly American", you epitomize it.
What a doofus.


I've "handled" cultures all over the world. I simply don't like the
South very much. I don't like the fact that the Klan is still active in
Georgia, for example, and has recruitment posters up in rural stores not
far from Atlanta. I don't like the history of lynchings. I don't like
the display of that stupid, disgusting Confederate flag. That sort of thing.