Worth reading
 

For those with an open mind and who are really interested in why we are in
the condition we are in, this is a good read.
Long, but thoughtful.

http://www.dissentmagazine.org/article/?article=1229

Eisboch

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"Eisboch" wrote in message
...
For those with an open mind and who are really interested in why we are in
the condition we are in, this is a good read.
Long, but thoughtful.

http://www.dissentmagazine.org/article/?article=1229

Eisboch

That was a fantastic read. Good history in it too.

BTW, found the clip of the "don't have to worry about my gas or
mortgage".... scary to listen to that. Makes me want to right-click-sell
anything US and get the money into another currency.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6ikOxi9yYk

Almost fell of my chair when I heard her talk.

In fact I might yet do if Obama shoots his money for nothing 'hood mouth off
one more time.

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On Sat, 15 Nov 2008 23:04:12 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

For those with an open mind and who are really interested in why we are in
the condition we are in, this is a good read.
Long, but thoughtful.

http://www.dissentmagazine.org/article/?article=1229

Eisboch


Very worthwhile, thanks.
--
John H.

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JohnH wrote:
On Sat, 15 Nov 2008 23:04:12 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

For those with an open mind and who are really interested in why we are in
the condition we are in, this is a good read.
Long, but thoughtful.

http://www.dissentmagazine.org/article/?article=1229

Eisboch


Very worthwhile, thanks.



After eight years of Bush's complete mismanagement of the country, what
could be funnier than articles blaming Clinton and Republicans believing
it.

You guys are a gas. Really.

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"Boater" wrote in message
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JohnH wrote:
On Sat, 15 Nov 2008 23:04:12 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

For those with an open mind and who are really interested in why we are
in the condition we are in, this is a good read.
Long, but thoughtful.

http://www.dissentmagazine.org/article/?article=1229

Eisboch

Very worthwhile, thanks.



After eight years of Bush's complete mismanagement of the country, what
could be funnier than articles blaming Clinton and Republicans believing
it.

You guys are a gas. Really.


You should really read it again, assuming you didn't just read the title.
It didn't single out Clinton or Bush.

Eisboch

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Boater wrote:
JohnH wrote:
On Sat, 15 Nov 2008 23:04:12 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

For those with an open mind and who are really interested in why we
are in the condition we are in, this is a good read.
Long, but thoughtful.

http://www.dissentmagazine.org/article/?article=1229

Eisboch

Very worthwhile, thanks.



After eight years of Bush's complete mismanagement of the country, what
could be funnier than articles blaming Clinton and Republicans believing
it.

You guys are a gas. Really.

You really shouldn't read anything that doesn't support your point of
view. It took years and years to flatten out your brain. Trying to re
expand it might cause hemorrhages.

Worth reading
 

Eisboch wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...
JohnH wrote:
On Sat, 15 Nov 2008 23:04:12 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

For those with an open mind and who are really interested in why we are
in the condition we are in, this is a good read.
Long, but thoughtful.

http://www.dissentmagazine.org/article/?article=1229

Eisboch
Very worthwhile, thanks.


After eight years of Bush's complete mismanagement of the country, what
could be funnier than articles blaming Clinton and Republicans believing
it.

You guys are a gas. Really.


You should really read it again, assuming you didn't just read the title.
It didn't single out Clinton or Bush.

Eisboch



I read it. I'm glad it gives you solace.

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Jim wrote:
Boater wrote:
JohnH wrote:
On Sat, 15 Nov 2008 23:04:12 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

For those with an open mind and who are really interested in why we
are in the condition we are in, this is a good read.
Long, but thoughtful.

http://www.dissentmagazine.org/article/?article=1229

Eisboch

Very worthwhile, thanks.



After eight years of Bush's complete mismanagement of the country,
what could be funnier than articles blaming Clinton and Republicans
believing
it.

You guys are a gas. Really.

You really shouldn't read anything that doesn't support your point of
view. It took years and years to flatten out your brain. Trying to re
expand it might cause hemorrhages.


Go strain some lawnmower fuel, "chief."

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"Boater" wrote in message
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I read it. I'm glad it gives you solace.


Facts are a bitch, huh? :-)

Eisboch

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Eisboch wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
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I read it. I'm glad it gives you solace.


Facts are a bitch, huh? :-)

Eisboch




Please, Richard, stop insulting your intelligence and mine.

Oh...in case you haven't heard...the concept of "free market economy"
is...dead.

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"Boater" wrote in message
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Eisboch wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
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I read it. I'm glad it gives you solace.


Facts are a bitch, huh? :-)

Eisboch


Please, Richard, stop insulting your intelligence and mine.

Oh...in case you haven't heard...the concept of "free market economy"
is...dead.



I am not insulting my intelligence, whatever it may be.

Eisboch

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Boater wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...

I read it. I'm glad it gives you solace.


Facts are a bitch, huh? :-)

Eisboch



Please, Richard, stop insulting your intelligence and mine.

Oh...in case you haven't heard...the concept of "free market economy"
is...dead.


Free market doesn't coexist within a sovereign nation. Short rule King "O"

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Boater wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...

I read it. I'm glad it gives you solace.


Facts are a bitch, huh? :-)

Eisboch



Please, Richard, stop insulting your intelligence and mine.

Oh...in case you haven't heard...the concept of "free market economy"
is...dead.

What is going to take its place and what is it going to do to liberty
and productivity.

I will be the first to admit that I am motivated by greed. I don't bust
my ass for 60 to 70 hours a week for some lazy non-working slug to get a
check just because he exists.

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"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"Boater" wrote in message
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I read it. I'm glad it gives you solace.


Facts are a bitch, huh? :-)

Eisboch


You did suggest that folks have an open mind when they read it. Do you
honestly think that krause has an open mind? It's the most closed mind I've
ever encountered. You know that.

--Mike

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Great read. A lot of that I did not know, but makes sense. I never realized
it, but my wife and I probably benefited from all of that.

We bought our home back in '98 with only 10% down. It was a 30 yr fixed, but
since I was a sole proprietor, income docs were not really necessary (I
thought that was odd). My wife produced W-2s, and I filled out a form. We
refinanced 5 years ago to a 20yr fixed that was a full 1.5 points lower
(5.25)... same deal... no income docs required from me. Lower payment, and
shaved 5 years off the term. We refinanced for the right reasons... NOT to
pull money out to remodel. As they say, timing is everything. Or... better
lucky than good!

Perhaps we are lumped into the sub-prime mortgage heap, but we've never
missed a payment, and have at least $350,000 in equity (SF Bay Area). Two
years ago it was $450,000. Yup, the bubble popped, but I'm not complaining.

Thanks for the link.

--Mike


"Eisboch" wrote in message
...
For those with an open mind and who are really interested in why we are in
the condition we are in, this is a good read.
Long, but thoughtful.

http://www.dissentmagazine.org/article/?article=1229

Eisboch