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wrote in message
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Too much top-heavy wages and bonuses. What do you care anyway...go
back to counting your money.

-------------------------------

Gee. I wonder who *that* could be.

Eisboch

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Eisboch wrote:
wrote in message
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Too much top-heavy wages and bonuses. What do you care anyway...go
back to counting your money.

-------------------------------

Gee. I wonder who *that* could be.

Eisboch


I was thinking the same thing. JH maybe?

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"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"Canuck57" wrote in message
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"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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Be careful here. The laws of physics and mathematics preclude the
possibility of generating more than 3413 BTU/hr per kilowatt. The
only exception is if heat is moved from one place to another in the
process, for example, a heat pump.



That's why the results of the tests were so bizarre.
What I was doing was heating an object of a certain mass.
When heating it with conventional means (or those used for the
state-of-the-art at the time)
the time required to heat the object ..... in this case to 200 degrees
C. took many, many times longer when compared to the plasma
configuration, using roughly the same amount of input power. I'll have
to review the notes to get the actual numbers.

I don't profess to understand what is going on, except for the facts
that this occurs in a vacuum, under a partial pressure. Argon gas
molecules are energized to an ionized (plasma) state within a confined
space and are used to bombard the object, using a 400 - 500 volt DC
potential difference. In some cases, I actually was able to begin to
melt (actually evaporate or sublimate) the aluminum object in very short
order, something that never occurred with the other means of heating.
It's not dis-similar to a process called "sputtering", but you don't
apply enough power to knock atoms of material off of the object
(target).

I am purposely leaving out a significant detail of the configuration,
for selfish reasons.

I read one scientific paper that talked about the same type of
phenomena. The patent attorney found it and gave it to me to read. If
I recall correctly, the author, in his summary (which is really all I
could understand) acknowledged that he didn't have a clue either, other
than it didn't appear to follow accepted thermodynamics laws and he (as
others have done) theorized on a new state of matter. Not a gas, not a
solid, not a liquid.

All this occurred in 1983 or thereabouts.

Eisboch

Quite correct, this did occur in the early 80's. But two differences
exist. This is much bigger and more depth to it. While I knew it was
coming, the depth has surprised me big time. But that means more profit
when it ends.

The second difference, the wild card of this event, is the governments
reaction delivering ever larger bailouts. This is scary. Not being an
active investor in 1980 I am guessing, but did not interest rates go up
above inflation and up to the high teens to stem debt? Is your average
middle class Joe in North America so far in debt the government has
screwed up with interest rates below market to a point of a larger
collapse?

Time will tell, but I suspect double digit borrowing rates before this
recession ends.


Gotta give you credit. You have a one track mind.

Eisboch


This melt down is all a result of your strange heating experiments. The new
state of matter has jumped in to the finance field.

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On Sat, 15 Nov 2008 13:33:13 -0500, Jim wrote:

Eisboch wrote:
wrote in message
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Too much top-heavy wages and bonuses. What do you care anyway...go
back to counting your money.

-------------------------------

Gee. I wonder who *that* could be.

Eisboch


I was thinking the same thing. JH maybe?

Not *this* JH!
--
John H.

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On Nov 15, 4:30*pm, JohnH wrote:
On Sat, 15 Nov 2008 13:33:13 -0500, Jim wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
wrote in message
....

Too much top-heavy wages and bonuses. What do you care anyway...go
back to counting your money.

-------------------------------

Gee. *I wonder who *that* could be.

Eisboch

I was thinking the same thing. JH maybe?

Not *this* JH!
--
John H.

Nor me. My last post to this house of lunacy was a couple of weeks
ago.

Carry on with the name calling, insults and other juvenile behavior
here.

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"Calif Bill" wrote in message
m...


This melt down is all a result of your strange heating experiments. The
new state of matter has jumped in to the finance field.


Don't blame me. Harry says it's Bush's fault.

Eisboch

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"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
m...


This melt down is all a result of your strange heating experiments. The
new state of matter has jumped in to the finance field.


Don't blame me. Harry says it's Bush's fault.

Eisboch

Is GW a product of your experiments?

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Eisboch wrote:
"Calif Bill" wrote in message
m...
This melt down is all a result of your strange heating experiments. The
new state of matter has jumped in to the finance field.


Don't blame me. Harry says it's Bush's fault.

Eisboch




This country has come pretty close to being destroyed under the careful
stewardship of Bush, from 9-11, to a trumped up war, to massive
deficits, to the destruction of the middle class, to the Katrina
aftermath, to the denial of science, to the financial destruction, to
the lack of oversight, to massive unemployment, to destruction of our
reputation around the world...you name it, and Bush has foched it up.

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"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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It's possible that you triggered an exothermic reaction of some sort
in one of the materials. That would be a one time event, and excess
heat production would stop once the reaction had run its course.


Wayne, you may be very close. According to a physicist that I talked to and
described the
setup and results, he described a reaction, but it was not chemical or
exothermic.
Argon in it's natural state is inert, as is aluminum. The unknown is what
the activity of ionized molecules, both neg and pos are in this setup. I
have an idea, and it has to do with the details of the configuration.
Basically, the electrons (supplied by the DC power supply) that ionize the
gas molecules cannot escape and return readily to ground, so more and more
molecules of gas are ionized per electron. At some point the negative ions
themselves have enough density and velocity to do the ionization of more gas
molecules themselves. The positive ions are what are crashing into the
aluminum and doing the heating.
Almost, but not quite, a self sustaining reaction.

The results were repeatable and I never saw any indication that extending
time resulted in any significant slowing of the heating. As mentioned, left
to run, the aluminum would start to soften and sag.

BTW ... the physicist also warned me to be careful. He said I was playing
with something not fully understood.

Eisboch

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"Boater" wrote in message
...
Eisboch wrote:
"Calif Bill" wrote in message
m...
This melt down is all a result of your strange heating experiments. The
new state of matter has jumped in to the finance field.


Don't blame me. Harry says it's Bush's fault.

Eisboch


This country has come pretty close to being destroyed under the careful
stewardship of Bush, from 9-11, to a trumped up war, to massive deficits,
to the destruction of the middle class, to the Katrina aftermath, to the
denial of science, to the financial destruction, to the lack of oversight,
to massive unemployment, to destruction of our reputation around the
world...you name it, and Bush has foched it up.


Holy crap! You're like one of those talking dolls. Push a button and it
recites some preprogrammed statement, over and over and over and over.
Until the batteries go dead. AHHH.... so that's why you announced the word
of the day!

Eisboch

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Eisboch wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...
Eisboch wrote:
"Calif Bill" wrote in message
m...
This melt down is all a result of your strange heating experiments. The
new state of matter has jumped in to the finance field.

Don't blame me. Harry says it's Bush's fault.

Eisboch

This country has come pretty close to being destroyed under the careful
stewardship of Bush, from 9-11, to a trumped up war, to massive deficits,
to the destruction of the middle class, to the Katrina aftermath, to the
denial of science, to the financial destruction, to the lack of oversight,
to massive unemployment, to destruction of our reputation around the
world...you name it, and Bush has foched it up.


Holy crap! You're like one of those talking dolls. Push a button and it
recites some preprogrammed statement, over and over and over and over.
Until the batteries go dead. AHHH.... so that's why you announced the word
of the day!

Eisboch




Oh? Which of those short descriptors aren't true?


The word of the day was indeed for some interesting new batteries that
seem to perform as advertised.

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On Sat, 15 Nov 2008 09:15:10 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
message ...


Let GM die - fertilizer for smaller, leaner and better companies to
suceed.

That's my story and I'm sticking to it.



Did I ever tell you about my hollow cathode plasma energy generator?

(seriously)

I stumbled across this many years ago purely by serendipity, doing some
experiments in a vacuum chamber.
It converted electrical energy into heat at about 100 times (or more) the
efficiency of conventional electric or fossil fueled heat generators.

I always wanted to go back and follow up on it. For example, I think it
could be used to heat a house very economically. Sorta like a mini nuclear
power generator without the nuclear reaction.

I'm in - when do we start? :)

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On Sat, 15 Nov 2008 10:48:19 -0700, "Canuck57"
wrote:

. Not being an
active investor in 1980 I am guessing, but did not interest rates go up
above inflation and up to the high teens to stem debt?

Yes - the Volker years.

Moron.

Volker - not you. :)

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"Boater" wrote in message
...
Eisboch wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...
Eisboch wrote:
"Calif Bill" wrote in message
m...
This melt down is all a result of your strange heating experiments.
The new state of matter has jumped in to the finance field.

Don't blame me. Harry says it's Bush's fault.

Eisboch

This country has come pretty close to being destroyed under the careful
stewardship of Bush, from 9-11, to a trumped up war, to massive
deficits, to the destruction of the middle class, to the Katrina
aftermath, to the denial of science, to the financial destruction, to
the lack of oversight, to massive unemployment, to destruction of our
reputation around the world...you name it, and Bush has foched it up.


Holy crap! You're like one of those talking dolls. Push a button and
it recites some preprogrammed statement, over and over and over and over.
Until the batteries go dead. AHHH.... so that's why you announced the
word of the day!

Eisboch


Oh? Which of those short descriptors aren't true?


The word of the day was indeed for some interesting new batteries that
seem to perform as advertised.


Just trying to bust your chops. And yes, those batteries look very
interesting. I'll tell you though, I've become very leery of some of the
new, high density batteries, particularly lithium/ion battery power packs
supplied in more and more devices. If not manufactured to exacting
standards, they can be very dangerous. I've advised my family not to leave
them perpetually on a charger and only charge them when someone is around to
notice if something goes wrong.

Well designed chargers for lithium/ion batteries have a timer built in and
automatically shut the charger off after a period of time.

The dangerous ones are some being manufactured in your favorite country ....
China.

Eisboch

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"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
message ...
On Sat, 15 Nov 2008 09:15:10 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
message ...


Let GM die - fertilizer for smaller, leaner and better companies to
suceed.

That's my story and I'm sticking to it.



Did I ever tell you about my hollow cathode plasma energy generator?

(seriously)

I stumbled across this many years ago purely by serendipity, doing some
experiments in a vacuum chamber.
It converted electrical energy into heat at about 100 times (or more) the
efficiency of conventional electric or fossil fueled heat generators.

I always wanted to go back and follow up on it. For example, I think it
could be used to heat a house very economically. Sorta like a mini
nuclear
power generator without the nuclear reaction.

I'm in - when do we start? :)


You are late to the meeting. We've been discussing this all day.
My interest in this has been re-piqued. I need to revisit it.

Simply put, it has to do with efficient use of electrons and increasing the
probability of ionization.
This is done routinely for other applications, such as planar magnetron
sputtering whereby
electrons from a power supply do more work because they become captured in a
magnetic field. Under certain conditions, a sputtering target can become
almost self sustaining due to the density of ionized gas and sputtered
material molecules. That has been demonstrated many times.

The duber I experimented with was doing the same thing, I think, except I
didn't need magnets to confine the electrons to a specific area.

Eisboch

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On Sat, 15 Nov 2008 09:19:58 -0600, wrote:

On Sat, 15 Nov 2008 14:00:46 +0000, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:


My own feeling is that let 'em go. Do the pre-pack, restructure to a
smaller, leaner, less expensive operation, drop a number of lines that
make no sense (like Hummer) and start competing again as a more
efficient and cost effective company.

GM deserves to go down, but ... We are now spending $1 trillion to put
liquidity *and* confidence back in our markets. What does letting GM go
down do to that confidence? I don't see a choice. I don't like it, but
I think we have to do something to help GM.

There is a difference between financial issues and manufacturing
issues.

You have to have confidence in the base medium of exchange - it's the
idea that the $1 bill is worth $1, not that is actually is worth $1.
It could be clams, round stones with holes in them or slices of
pepperoni - the concept is that the medium of exchange has a certain
value and that is what makes an economy.

If don't have confidence in the medium, the system fails.

Manufacturing is a completely different deal. As long as $1 stays a
$1, companies can start, compete, succeed, fail - the medium of
exchange stays the same.

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JimH wrote:
On Nov 15, 4:30 pm, JohnH wrote:
On Sat, 15 Nov 2008 13:33:13 -0500, Jim wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
wrote in message
....
Too much top-heavy wages and bonuses. What do you care anyway...go
back to counting your money.
-------------------------------
Gee. I wonder who *that* could be.
Eisboch
I was thinking the same thing. JH maybe?
Not *this* JH!
--
John H.

Nor me. My last post to this house of lunacy was a couple of weeks
ago.

Carry on with the name calling, insults and other juvenile behavior
here.

My apologies to both the JHs. Sure did sound like one of em though.

End of the line?
 

"Boater" wrote in message
...
Eisboch wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...
Eisboch wrote:
"Calif Bill" wrote in message
m...
This melt down is all a result of your strange heating experiments.
The new state of matter has jumped in to the finance field.

Don't blame me. Harry says it's Bush's fault.

Eisboch

This country has come pretty close to being destroyed under the careful
stewardship of Bush, from 9-11, to a trumped up war, to massive
deficits, to the destruction of the middle class, to the Katrina
aftermath, to the denial of science, to the financial destruction, to
the lack of oversight, to massive unemployment, to destruction of our
reputation around the world...you name it, and Bush has foched it up.


Holy crap! You're like one of those talking dolls. Push a button and
it recites some preprogrammed statement, over and over and over and over.
Until the batteries go dead. AHHH.... so that's why you announced the
word of the day!

Eisboch


Oh? Which of those short descriptors aren't true?


The word of the day was indeed for some interesting new batteries that
seem to perform as advertised.

The whole premise was BS. Democrat congress approved the funding for it.
Lets start with that shall we.

Should have approved nukes, but that is another issue.

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Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Sat, 15 Nov 2008 09:15:10 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
message ...

Let GM die - fertilizer for smaller, leaner and better companies to
suceed.

That's my story and I'm sticking to it.


Did I ever tell you about my hollow cathode plasma energy generator?

(seriously)

I stumbled across this many years ago purely by serendipity, doing some
experiments in a vacuum chamber.
It converted electrical energy into heat at about 100 times (or more) the
efficiency of conventional electric or fossil fueled heat generators.

I always wanted to go back and follow up on it. For example, I think it
could be used to heat a house very economically. Sorta like a mini nuclear
power generator without the nuclear reaction.

I'm in - when do we start? :)

Whose garage are you going to conduct the experiments in first?

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On Sat, 15 Nov 2008 11:12:09 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

Harry's General Store?

How and where do you draw the line?

Answered your own question. :)

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"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
message ...
On Sat, 15 Nov 2008 11:12:09 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

Harry's General Store?

How and where do you draw the line?

Answered your own question. :)


Check your email (different subject)

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"Jim" wrote in message
...
JimH wrote:
On Nov 15, 4:30 pm, JohnH wrote:
On Sat, 15 Nov 2008 13:33:13 -0500, Jim wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
wrote in message
....
Too much top-heavy wages and bonuses. What do you care anyway...go
back to counting your money.
-------------------------------
Gee. I wonder who *that* could be.
Eisboch
I was thinking the same thing. JH maybe?
Not *this* JH!
--
John H.

Nor me. My last post to this house of lunacy was a couple of weeks
ago.

Carry on with the name calling, insults and other juvenile behavior
here.

My apologies to both the JHs. Sure did sound like one of em though.


Wait a minute...... wht about
JustHate??....................................... or is that JustWait?

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On Sat, 15 Nov 2008 17:35:13 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:




BTW ... the physicist also warned me to be careful. He said I was playing
with something not fully understood.

Haven't been following closely. You talking about women?

--Vic

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"Vic Smith" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 15 Nov 2008 17:35:13 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:




BTW ... the physicist also warned me to be careful. He said I was playing
with something not fully understood.

Haven't been following closely. You talking about women?

--Vic


LOL. Them too.

Eisboch

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"Vic Smith" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 15 Nov 2008 17:35:13 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:




BTW ... the physicist also warned me to be careful. He said I was playing
with something not fully understood.

Haven't been following closely. You talking about women?

--Vic



BTW ... I've been somewhat liberated.

As of October 25th, Comcast no longer provides a newsgroup service, so
Mrs.E. can't lurk anymore.
I don't think she realizes it yet. Best to leave some things unexplained.
Fortunately she's so busy with other things (like horses) that researching
alternate NG servers is not high on her list, nor is she even aware of them.

Gene, I'd appreciate your absolute silence on the matter. Thank you very
much in advance. :-)

Eisboch

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"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
message ...
On Sat, 15 Nov 2008 09:15:10 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
message ...


Let GM die - fertilizer for smaller, leaner and better companies to
suceed.

That's my story and I'm sticking to it.



Did I ever tell you about my hollow cathode plasma energy generator?

(seriously)

I stumbled across this many years ago purely by serendipity, doing some
experiments in a vacuum chamber.
It converted electrical energy into heat at about 100 times (or more) the
efficiency of conventional electric or fossil fueled heat generators.

I always wanted to go back and follow up on it. For example, I think it
could be used to heat a house very economically. Sorta like a mini
nuclear
power generator without the nuclear reaction.

I'm in - when do we start? :)


You are late to the meeting. We've been discussing this all day.
My interest in this has been re-piqued. I need to revisit it.

Simply put, it has to do with efficient use of electrons and increasing
the probability of ionization.
This is done routinely for other applications, such as planar magnetron
sputtering whereby
electrons from a power supply do more work because they become captured in
a magnetic field. Under certain conditions, a sputtering target can
become almost self sustaining due to the density of ionized gas and
sputtered material molecules. That has been demonstrated many times.

The duber I experimented with was doing the same thing, I think, except I
didn't need magnets to confine the electrons to a specific area.

Eisboch

Will tin hats be required for working on the project? If they are and you
supply them, I'd like to apply.

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"D.Duck" wrote in message
...


Will tin hats be required for working on the project? If they are and you
supply them, I'd like to apply.


Tin hats are optional, however highly recommended with a ground strap to the
nearest water pipe.
Besides, they are quite in style now-a-days.

I detect a slight sense of non-belief. Here .... these quotes from the
patents may help:

"Drum temperature can be raised from 20° C. to 75° C. within seven minutes
with 250 watts of power per drum and 260° C. is achievable in approximately
twenty minutes at 350 watts per drum."

and:

"The invention provides a number of operational advantages not possible with
prior systems. For example, compared to conventional drum heating techniques
such as those using electron beams that require approximately 4000 watts per
drum to heat in similar relative time periods, the glow discharge process
typically uses no more than 250-350 watts per drum"

Note: "glow discharge" is another term for "plasma"

I figure I have nothing else to do, so might as well pick up from where I
left it back in 1984.


Eisboch

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"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"D.Duck" wrote in message
...


Will tin hats be required for working on the project? If they are and
you supply them, I'd like to apply.


Tin hats are optional, however highly recommended with a ground strap to
the nearest water pipe.
Besides, they are quite in style now-a-days.

I detect a slight sense of non-belief. Here .... these quotes from the
patents may help:

"Drum temperature can be raised from 20° C. to 75° C. within seven minutes
with 250 watts of power per drum and 260° C. is achievable in
approximately twenty minutes at 350 watts per drum."

and:

"The invention provides a number of operational advantages not possible
with prior systems. For example, compared to conventional drum heating
techniques such as those using electron beams that require approximately
4000 watts per drum to heat in similar relative time periods, the glow
discharge process typically uses no more than 250-350 watts per drum"

Note: "glow discharge" is another term for "plasma"

I figure I have nothing else to do, so might as well pick up from where I
left it back in 1984.


Eisboch


No, no, no. No doubts on my part, I find it quite interesting. I'm just
trying to get my ducks in a row in case I need some part time work in the
interim while "O" straightens out the economy. You opportunity sounds
better to me than asking "paper or plastic" at the local Publix.

Glad to hear you're grounding the hats. Too be most effective you should
use grounded wrist straps and not ground the hat directly. You might miss
the intended target.

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"D.Duck" wrote in message
...


No, no, no. No doubts on my part, I find it quite interesting. I'm just
trying to get my ducks in a row in case I need some part time work in the
interim while "O" straightens out the economy. You opportunity sounds
better to me than asking "paper or plastic" at the local Publix.



Ok. You are in Florida, right? You can be the local distributor of the
systems.
Wait a minute. You don't need heat in Florida, right?

I'll have to see if I plug this thing in backwards if it turns into an air
conditioner.

Eisboch

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Eisboch wrote:
"D.Duck" wrote in message
...

No, no, no. No doubts on my part, I find it quite interesting. I'm just
trying to get my ducks in a row in case I need some part time work in the
interim while "O" straightens out the economy. You opportunity sounds
better to me than asking "paper or plastic" at the local Publix.



Ok. You are in Florida, right? You can be the local distributor of the
systems.
Wait a minute. You don't need heat in Florida, right?

I'll have to see if I plug this thing in backwards if it turns into an air
conditioner.

Eisboch


Of course we need heat. Just not very often. It's a bone chilling 53.3
right now.
Don't you remember the day before Junior's wedding when it was 40
degrees during the daytime?

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"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"D.Duck" wrote in message
...


No, no, no. No doubts on my part, I find it quite interesting. I'm just
trying to get my ducks in a row in case I need some part time work in the
interim while "O" straightens out the economy. You opportunity sounds
better to me than asking "paper or plastic" at the local Publix.



Ok. You are in Florida, right? You can be the local distributor of the
systems.
Wait a minute. You don't need heat in Florida, right?

I'll have to see if I plug this thing in backwards if it turns into an air
conditioner.

Eisboch


Jim is right, we DO need heat in Florida. After living in Chicago for some
50+ years I know what winters are like. Been here since '92 and I'm
thinking of moving to warmer climes, supposed to be in the 30's tonight. If
this global *warming* doesn't reverse itself there will be a large market
for you bass-akwards running machines.

I'll take the Florida distributorship. How much for a franchise? We're a
right to work state so we won't have worry about unions. That will help to
keep the costs down.

Time to bundle up and head for the first tee. Almost as bad as ice fishing.

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"Jim" wrote in message
...
Eisboch wrote:
"D.Duck" wrote in message
...

No, no, no. No doubts on my part, I find it quite interesting. I'm
just trying to get my ducks in a row in case I need some part time work
in the interim while "O" straightens out the economy. You opportunity
sounds better to me than asking "paper or plastic" at the local Publix.



Ok. You are in Florida, right? You can be the local distributor of the
systems.
Wait a minute. You don't need heat in Florida, right?

I'll have to see if I plug this thing in backwards if it turns into an
air conditioner.

Eisboch
Of course we need heat. Just not very often. It's a bone chilling 53.3
right now.
Don't you remember the day before Junior's wedding when it was 40 degrees
during the daytime?


No.

I recall once, in the 3 winters we were there, of seeing frost on the
pumpkin overnight.
Didn't last long though. We were quite a bit further south than you.

But yes, I remember having to put the "heat" on a few times during the early
morning hours.
The heat was simply a electric heat strip installed in the air handling
systems. Hardly worth replacing with my high powered, high efficiency, high
profit margi..... hummm forget that.

We were quite a bit further south than you.

Eisboch

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On Sun, 16 Nov 2008 04:35:08 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

Ok. You are in Florida, right? You can be the local distributor of the
systems.
Wait a minute. You don't need heat in Florida, right?

Pool heaters !

I want the south Florida pool heater franchise !

Let's just hope we don't get arrested for breaking the laws of
thermodynamics. :-)

Here's my business plan if we can stay out of the pokey: We use your
device to generate (hopefully) excess heat ( 3413 BTU/KW). We then
take the excess heat and generate electricty so that we can create
more excess heat, thus achieving a multiplier effect of sorts. Using
the excess electricity generated by the excess heat, we can now create
hydrogen gas via electrolysis of water. We'll liquify the hydrogen
using more excess electricity and sell it to the public for powering
their new generation of hydrogen powered vehicles which we will
engineer and manufacture using the excess money, created by the sale
of hydrogen, which was created by the excess electricity, from the
excess heat.

Good grief, we're all going to be rich enough to buy China !

Let's be careful though. The big oil companies are not going to like
this at all and they will no doubt conspire to bombard us all with
cosmic rays.

End of the line?
 

On Sat, 15 Nov 2008 19:58:00 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Vic Smith" wrote in message
.. .
On Sat, 15 Nov 2008 17:35:13 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:




BTW ... the physicist also warned me to be careful. He said I was playing
with something not fully understood.

Haven't been following closely. You talking about women?

--Vic



BTW ... I've been somewhat liberated.

As of October 25th, Comcast no longer provides a newsgroup service, so
Mrs.E. can't lurk anymore.
I don't think she realizes it yet. Best to leave some things unexplained.
Fortunately she's so busy with other things (like horses) that researching
alternate NG servers is not high on her list, nor is she even aware of them.

Gene, I'd appreciate your absolute silence on the matter. Thank you very
much in advance. :-)

Hmmmm - I know of a certain somebody who has a boat for sale that
another certain somebody is interested in.

I wonder how much it's worth to a certain somebody for a certain
somebody to keep his yap shut? :)

End of the line?
 

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 16 Nov 2008 04:35:08 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

Ok. You are in Florida, right? You can be the local distributor of the
systems.
Wait a minute. You don't need heat in Florida, right?

Pool heaters !

I want the south Florida pool heater franchise !

Let's just hope we don't get arrested for breaking the laws of
thermodynamics. :-)

Here's my business plan if we can stay out of the pokey: We use your
device to generate (hopefully) excess heat ( 3413 BTU/KW). We then
take the excess heat and generate electricty so that we can create
more excess heat, thus achieving a multiplier effect of sorts. Using
the excess electricity generated by the excess heat, we can now create
hydrogen gas via electrolysis of water. We'll liquify the hydrogen
using more excess electricity and sell it to the public for powering
their new generation of hydrogen powered vehicles which we will
engineer and manufacture using the excess money, created by the sale
of hydrogen, which was created by the excess electricity, from the
excess heat.

Good grief, we're all going to be rich enough to buy China !

Let's be careful though. The big oil companies are not going to like
this at all and they will no doubt conspire to bombard us all with
cosmic rays.


Don't forget to *unionize*. What do they call them, check cards?

End of the line?
 

"D.Duck" wrote in message
...

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 16 Nov 2008 04:35:08 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

Ok. You are in Florida, right? You can be the local distributor of the
systems.
Wait a minute. You don't need heat in Florida, right?

Pool heaters !

I want the south Florida pool heater franchise !

Let's just hope we don't get arrested for breaking the laws of
thermodynamics. :-)

Here's my business plan if we can stay out of the pokey: We use your
device to generate (hopefully) excess heat ( 3413 BTU/KW). We then
take the excess heat and generate electricty so that we can create
more excess heat, thus achieving a multiplier effect of sorts. Using
the excess electricity generated by the excess heat, we can now create
hydrogen gas via electrolysis of water. We'll liquify the hydrogen
using more excess electricity and sell it to the public for powering
their new generation of hydrogen powered vehicles which we will
engineer and manufacture using the excess money, created by the sale
of hydrogen, which was created by the excess electricity, from the
excess heat.

Good grief, we're all going to be rich enough to buy China !

Let's be careful though. The big oil companies are not going to like
this at all and they will no doubt conspire to bombard us all with
cosmic rays.


Don't forget to *unionize*. What do they call them, check cards?



See? All it takes is a simple idea, a little brainstorming amoung friends,
and the possibilities become limitless.

What's China gonna cost, ya think?

Eisboch

End of the line?
 

On Sun, 16 Nov 2008 13:02:03 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote:

What's China gonna cost, ya think?

Let's let Tom figure that one out, he's good with *large* numbers.

End of the line?
 

On Sun, 16 Nov 2008 18:00:43 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sun, 16 Nov 2008 13:02:03 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote:

What's China gonna cost, ya think?

Let's let Tom figure that one out, he's good with *large* numbers.

With or without the population?

End of the line?
 

On Mon, 17 Nov 2008 01:16:36 GMT, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

On Sun, 16 Nov 2008 18:00:43 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sun, 16 Nov 2008 13:02:03 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote:

What's China gonna cost, ya think?

Let's let Tom figure that one out, he's good with *large* numbers.

With or without the population?

Let's just take the attractive women.