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Pascal May 10th 07 03:27 PM

New Simrad AI50 Class B AIS Transponder
 
I want to know who is selling this now in Europe, (please give the url
or addres) what is the price and where I can get a copy of the usr
manual for details.

Thanks

Pascal


Larry May 10th 07 06:17 PM

New Simrad AI50 Class B AIS Transponder
 
Pascal wrote in news:1178807248.209992.197850
@l77g2000hsb.googlegroups.com:

I want to know who is selling this now in Europe, (please give the url
or addres) what is the price and where I can get a copy of the usr
manual for details.

Thanks

Pascal



http://www.simradyachting.com/Produc.../AIS/AI50.aspx

Click on "Downloads" for brochures, user manual, all there.

From the webpage:
"Note for the US:
The AI50 has not been authorized as required by the rules of the Federal
Communications Commission. This device is not, and may not be, offered
for sale or lease, or sold or leased, until authorization is obtained."

Of course, as usual, Americans are excluded until the barely perceptible
bureaucratic movements make any new European technology obsolete....
(sigh)

There's lots of dealers listed if you put:

Simrad AI50

into the Google search engine. nauticexpo.com had no price but tried to
scam my browser so I'd stay away from them (UK). I don't think these
units are available, yet, from the look of the webpages at marine
electronics places. The news on them is dated Sun Mar 18...still being
prepared for release.

Nice looking units, Pascal. Let us all know what you find out and how
pricey they are being so new. Keep us posted!



Larry
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Larry May 10th 07 06:22 PM

New Simrad AI50 Class B AIS Transponder
 
Pascal wrote in news:1178807248.209992.197850
@l77g2000hsb.googlegroups.com:

what is the price


Jersey Electrics says:

"Projected price around £800"

You'd think it had a kilowatt transmitter, not just TWO WATTS....

It will display you from a 50' sailboat mast antenna about 4-5 miles at
that power level....unless you're around a corner, which is what we're
buying them for....then 2 watts is NOT GOING TO GET OVER THAT CLIFF!

So sad....VHF will bounce and display you but not at so low a power level
in a ditch waterway. Too bad.

Larry
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Pascal May 10th 07 08:36 PM

New Simrad AI50 Class B AIS Transponder
 
On 10 maio, 14:22, Larry wrote:
Pascal wrote in news:1178807248.209992.197850
@l77g2000hsb.googlegroups.com:

what is the price


Jersey Electrics says:

"Projected price around £800"

You'd think it had a kilowatt transmitter, not just TWO WATTS....

It will display you from a 50' sailboat mast antenna about 4-5 miles at
that power level....unless you're around a corner, which is what we're
buying them for....then 2 watts is NOT GOING TO GET OVER THAT CLIFF!

So sad....VHF will bounce and display you but not at so low a power level
in a ditch waterway. Too bad.

Larry
--


Thanks Larry,


I already have seen that links, 800 UK pounds may be a correct price
for a stand alone unit with color display, waterproof, with 16
channel GPS and class B transponder, I think. I have an SR161 but it
depends on my laptop and I would prefer a stand alone unit.

What I want to know is where we can buy it in Europe now, since I can
ask a friend to bring one to me without aggregate more import taxes.
Preferable in UK since it is more easy to have people coming to Brazil
from there. I think that this unit would take so much time to be
available at Miltech Marine in USA.

Regards
Pascal


Larry May 11th 07 04:57 AM

New Simrad AI50 Class B AIS Transponder
 
Pascal wrote in news:1178825813.503235.46380
@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com:

What I want to know is where we can buy it in Europe now, since I can
ask a friend to bring one to me without aggregate more import taxes.
Preferable in UK since it is more easy to have people coming to Brazil
from there. I think that this unit would take so much time to be
available at Miltech Marine in USA.


FCC says you can't buy it in the USA. From the webpages I read over from
European dealers, I don't think you can buy it there, yet, either. It
looks like they're taking initial orders. NONE of them had more than a
guess as to the pricing, reinforcing my belief the thing is still vaporware
(unavailable for sale).

Larry
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Pascal May 14th 07 11:09 PM

New Simrad AI50 Class B AIS Transponder
 
On 11 maio, 00:57, Larry wrote:
Pascal wrote in news:1178825813.503235.46380
@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com:

What I want to know is where we can buy it in Europe now, since I can
ask a friend to bring one to me without aggregate more import taxes.
Preferable in UK since it is more easy to have people coming to Brazil
from there. I think that this unit would take so much time to be
available at Miltech Marine in USA.


FCC says you can't buy it in the USA. From the webpages I read over from
European dealers, I don't think you can buy it there, yet, either. It
looks like they're taking initial orders. NONE of them had more than a
guess as to the pricing, reinforcing my belief the thing is still vaporware
(unavailable for sale).

Larry
--


Yes Larry, You are wright, and I have seen some comments about AIS
Class B that worry me a lot, that is: it send position only after 30
sec which may not good for ships with 20 knots or more and with only 2
Watts the range could be limited to 4 NM.

I think I will wait much more time to see how this thing really works
or not.

Pascal



Larry May 15th 07 01:13 AM

New Simrad AI50 Class B AIS Transponder
 
Pascal wrote in news:1179180566.978848.120740
@e51g2000hsg.googlegroups.com:

I think I will wait much more time to see how this thing really works
or not.



I'd also say wait. The equipment/manufacturer shakeout has not occurred on
this technology, yet. We're a couple of years away before certain units
become the ones most sought after, while the others go bankrupt.

It's just like Windows Vista....about 3 years from being out of beta test
by the paying users before it's near ready for use....(c;

Larry
--
Grade School Physics Factoid:
A building cannot freefall into its own footprint without
skilled demolition.

b393capt May 15th 07 06:16 PM

New Simrad AI50 Class B AIS Transponder
 
Already have an AIS receiver do you, why not stop there, you get most
of the benefit. The class of boats that are required to carry a
transciever are unlikely to take action to avoid your boat, unless you
are stationary. Even then, they might just only honk.

Spend the euros on some good food & drink for your crew



Larry May 15th 07 07:29 PM

New Simrad AI50 Class B AIS Transponder
 
b393capt wrote in
ups.com:

Already have an AIS receiver do you, why not stop there, you get most
of the benefit. The class of boats that are required to carry a
transciever are unlikely to take action to avoid your boat, unless you
are stationary. Even then, they might just only honk.

Spend the euros on some good food & drink for your crew




Do you sail much at night in a busy seaway or with crossing ship traffic
going up a coast?

The idea is to be SEEN, and to inform the other AIS stations of your
boat's name/size/call/MMSI/course/speed....before you're run down by a
much faster ship who didn't see your little 50' mast on his radar
shooting over it from way up there....

The crew has plenty of slop and way too much rum, already....


Larry
--
Grade School Physics Factoid:
A building cannot freefall into its own footprint without
skilled demolition.

John Grandshaw May 15th 07 10:17 PM

New Simrad AI50 Class B AIS Transponder
 
Pascal wrote:
I want to know who is selling this now in Europe, (please give the url
or addres) what is the price and where I can get a copy of the usr
manual for details.

Thanks

Pascal

www.jgtech.com are selling the AIS transponder they are due very soon. JG


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