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On Thu, 04 May 2006 14:28:36 GMT, chuck wrote:
Snipped a lot http://www.smartgauge.co.uk/batt_con.html I think the article you referenced confirms the data I provided on wire resistance. It is a bit naive, however, in assuming a constant and uniform internal resistance among the batteries. Internal resistance varies with the age and condition of the battery and non-linearly with the amount of current being drawn from the battery. Variations of internal resistance between the cells of 8% seem to be common among new, similar batteries and the added wire resistance to the farther battery in the case of "corners not crossed" is only about 7.5% of the battery's assumed internal resistance. Battery manufacturers want to see internal resistances increase by 50% before replacement under warranty, suggesting that increases of as much as 45% are within normal variances! See: http://www.batteryuniversity.com/print-parttwo-42A.htm Does internal resistance reveal battery capacity? Real batteries are not easy to model. For example, even if there is a difference in each battery's contribution to a particular load, the battery providing the greater contribution will more rapidly see an increase in its internal resistance, thus enabling the other battery to increase its contribution. Except in extreme cases, the method of connection is not too important. Chuck Chuck, Thanks for the URL above, most interesting. The author of the site that I quoted does not follow this group these days, however we had a conversation and the following is copied from a mail to me (Start quote from mail) With battery internal resistance of 0.01R (a typical figure for a brand new fully charged deep cycle 100AHr battery) the figures come out at:- (End wired) Battery share of current 1 44.2 2 26.9 3 17.6 4 13.5 The figure used on the website of 0.02R represent a battery at about half life. It doesn't matter what figures are used. The end result is the same. Just the magnitude changes. With batteries with an internal resistance of 0.05R (i.e. totally knackered - 100 Ahr batteries unable to support a 50 amp load without the terminal voltage falling to 10.5 volts) the figures come out:- Battery share of current 1 29.8 2 25.6 3 22.9 4 21.6 To suggest that the internal resistance of each battery represents a larger percentage of the total is completely irrelevant. Each battery's internal resistance is in series with it's own battery current and NOTHING ELSE. The resistance of the battery interconnecting leads is in series with different batteries and each one has hugely differing currents through it if the batteries are not wired corner to corner. If one battery is slightly older or more tired than the others then it's internal resistance will be higher. This leads to that battery producing less current during discharge and accepting less current during charge. It is therefore worked gentler. This therefore works the other batteries harder. This gives a natural balancing effect between the different batteries in the bank with the result that each battery is worked by the same amount. This of course, is on the assumption that the battery bank is wired up correctly. If it is wired "all from one end" then this doesn't happen and the first battery is worked harder. (End of quote from mail) If you have the opportunity then I suggest doing the actual physical test (preferably with a new battery set) to see if the numbers crunch as above. I am just a simple soul but it seems to me that working a battery set "equally" is the best way to go. Regards Richard Nb "Pound Eater" Parkend G+S |
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