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Default Depth FInder Sensor

Frank,

I dicked around with an Airmar P79 for quite a while. Used Life Caulk,
used silicone, used 4200, used 5200, and each time, the mineral oil
caused the adhesive to lift from the hull after a week to a month.
Finally ordered a new base ring (they are available, $12 IIRC), cleaned
everything well and used JB Weld (basically just epoxy) to glue the ring
down. Filled with mineral oil and have had no problems for over a year now.

Keith Hughes

frank1492 wrote:

This seems like a good time to interject my problem. I had originally
posted a thread explaining that my LX-201 Datamarine depth finder
wouldn't work. The problem was traced to a faulty thru-hull
transducer.
Although I considered many solution alternatives (with the help
of the fine folk on this group) I settled on trying an Airmar P79
in-hull because they told me it would be compatible with the LX-201.
Also, I preferred not to mess with the old thru-hull as it needed to
be pulled from the bottom and appeared to be epoxyed in place.
Initial tests have shown that the Airmar will work well as it
will be used on a non-cored Grady White with a solid hull thickness
of less than one inch.
The problem has been the mounting of the transducer. Airmar
uses a bottomless base (ring) with a flange that is secured to the
inside of the hull with adhesive. The base is then filled with either
mineral oil or propylene glycol (their instructions), and the
transducer snaps on over that such that its bottom face "floats" on
the liquid. Obviously whatever adhesive is used must make a permanent
seal between the hull and the base flange as the base itself has no
bottom.
Here is the problem. Airmar specifically states that epoxy,
or the previously recommended Boatlife LIfe Seal or 3M 4200
are *not* to be used. Only GE Silicone II is allowed! With an area
perfectly cleaned with 409 (the area has a gloss), I have tried to
mount the base three times, each with many hours of cure time.
Each time when I have added the glycol, it leaks out after a few
seconds as if it were reacting with the silicone. When the base is
removed, the silicone on the flange is a sticky mess.
It really doesn't make sense to me that silicone would work at
all in this application. So why not use epoxy? Is it just that it
would be permanent and if the transducer base had to be
moved or removed you couldnt get it off? Surely Airmar sells
replacement bases. (I will check tomorrow.)
Your counsel is much appreciated. Am I just doing something
wrong in applying the Silicone II? (Otherwise known as "Kitchen
and Bath.") Or am I correct that this is a bad idea for a permanent
installation and epoxy should be used?
Thank you.
Frank







On 2 Apr 2006 21:53:32 -0700, "DPFresh"
wrote:


Hello all, so as oppossed to drilling a hole in my hull for a depth
finder sensor, I should be able to set it up inside the hull as long as
the sensor is in some type of liquid right? IT will be able to tell
depths through the fiberglass hull right?

Thanks,
David




 
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